301 today is what is the date? The 15th, August. 15.
2024 recording in progress. It
is called, if you don't have a quorum in here yet, but we looking to have a quorum very, very soon. And being that we don't have a quorum, we want to see is the chaplain is available. Uh, chaplain who?
Who's the chaplain? Commander,
Sherry Loman,
goody,
good afternoon,
good afternoon. You may proceed. Okay,
dear, Most Gracious, Father God. We, thank you, Father
God for this day. We
thank You, Father God for bringing us together just one more day. Oh
God. And we just ask you, Father God, to be in this meeting. Oh God. We
ask you to guide us in this meeting. Oh
god and everything that is needed for this meeting, oh God that you will supply it. Oh
god in decent and in order. Oh
god whatever information is needed. Oh
God we thank You, Father, God that you will bless it and we give You all the praise and honor and glory in Jesus name, I pray. Amen.
Amen. Uh, it appears that we do have a quorum now, and so we will go to the introduction of commissioners.
Late,
someone is there electing their duties and walking out. And so we lost the quorum, but we are expecting another commissioner to be here. It's very, very unfortunate again, that a commissioner will treat the citizens of the city of Detroit in this manner, and we are expected to have a quorum very, very soon.
Having said that, we will what is public comment? Mr. Chair, you can go to public comment, and we expect on the form. Very stone,
good afternoon. Mr. Chair, we have two speakers, one speaker in the room, Miss Sharia Williams, and Then we'll go into the Zoom election integrity room. You
uh, you may be hurt. Hello, everyone. I'm here today to discuss me going to file police reports, and I have like, over 35 police reports at the second precinct, and I just want to know why I have no one at that precinct did a job correctly and reached out to me concerning my issues that I have every time I leave out the facility at 12 900 West Chicago, I have to be concerned about my life every day, and that's not acceptable, especially when police officers are behind me being people are stalking me like they are when when I leave out That facility like I said, shouldn't nobody know when I'm coming and going? I have to be concerned about my life every day. People that just got released from prison halfway house, all type of nuts. I'm unable to carry my weapons legally because I'm in that facility. But at the end of the day, I shouldn't have to worry about my life every day. That's a huge issue. So like I said, I have over 37 complaints, and I'm looking over you at chief Warfield, and it's unfortunate when I went to the police department, that when I get back to that facility, the officers that's in that facility, they are fully aware of what I'm speaking with my reports I make. And how is that possible? This is just not susceptible. When somebody are in a position to do their job and do not do their job correctly, it's an issue with that and don't respect they owe. Thank you. Okay,
thank you. We now have a call on the letter. Let us go continue with the introduction of your PC. Staff.
Chairperson wood banks, excellent excuse absent. Commission Bernard, since she'll be here shortly. Commissioner Bell, person just before. Minister Burton, present,
okay. Thank you very much. We move for the approval of August 15, 2024, agenda, burden, supported by Hernandez more, all in favor. Hernandez, okay, excuse me, all right. Some anyone opposed,
I'd like to amend the agenda. I like to move. Like to move the executive appointment to the rank of commander captains to to new business, so the board can be able to get his business done, and then go to the promotions opponent
anyone second that there's no second to that. So the agenda is approve, approval minutes moved by Commissioner Hernandez support. Supported by Commissioner. All in favor. Say, aye. Anyone on the polls, the motion is carried, introduction of bopc staff, chief of police and other officials and representatives
currently have with us, chief investigator, Warfield, parliamentary Doctor Francis Jackson, Miss Johnny Underwood, Miss Teresa blossom, Miss Artemisia Joshua, Miss Mary Barber, Mr. Drew freeze, acting, supervising, guest investigator, Elgin Murphy, interpreter, Mr. Cotta and Dr Stephanie Beatty. Our court report is Mr. Don hendyside, Sergeant Quinn is doing an audio and media services doing our video, sitting in chief himself. Elected officials, Miss Maria from state representative Carter's office, second precinct, community relations. President, Davis officer, Council Member Fred new Harlan. Third Lieutenant Mark young LSA, president, vice president and former Commissioner William Davis,
thank you. Direct reflect that Commissioner Smith is president. We're gonna go to the chief of police. Report.
All right. Good afternoon.
Good afternoon. Start
with the crime. We continue to move in the right direction. Our strategy is working as I start off, and we don't celebrate numbers, but we do have to have a basis for which we do our work and to see if what we're doing is in fact working. Coming off of historical crime reduction numbers last year, although since 1966 we knew that we would have some challenges this year, but then when we quickly starting to continue to work very hard for the city, and as a result, we're looking at a 16% reduction in homicides this year last year, again, coming in historical numbers. With 166 at this time last year, we were looking at 139 still 139 too many, but certainly lower than we've we've ever seen, at least in my career. Boxes, some folks that have a significant much more time not to do the same thing. Reduction. Robberies are 26% reduction. And a total Part One violent crime is 11% and carpe Jack continues in right direction. They're working very hard. We're looking at a 39% reduction in carjackings in the patheticism context. You know, I'm sure this board remembers a time when there was a card in Detroit as of today's date, number 66 carjackings in our city in late August, 24 or mid August and 24 that's incredible. We look at acceptable assaults, we see a 16% reduction aggregated assaults. We see an 8% reduction. We look at the proactive crimes where the officers have to be engaged to reduce. Those are your burglaries, which require 2%
reduction
in those. And that's significant because you look at pre covid numbers, when we saw that significant hit during covid, because people were home from being broken into. So we have to look back a couple of years, three years, to see what the numbers look like. And these numbers are quite robust. Looking at a 2% reduction in robberies and murderers, I'm sorry, 25% reduction in robberies and then a 2% reduction emerge. Our motor vehicle theft moving in the right direction as well 4% reduction. And then we look at our total property crimes at 8.2% reduction. So a lot of hard work by the men and women of the Detroit Police Department, and those numbers are moving in the right direction. I'd like to highlight just a couple of incidents before we get into some recommendations to the body investigation on August 7, at 12pm officers were dispatched to 50,000 block of the liberal two investigated body observed in that area. Officer the victim suffering from a wound, to the head medical team responded to the stain and unfortunately pronounced the victim deceased. Officer from the ninth precinct preserved the stain and detected the homicide section. Were notified. Homicide detected drive investigation. Witness stated that they came to the location to check the property on the victim. They're unresponsive and suffering from the wounds. I indicated the incident is still under investigation, and detectives put out information, asking anyone for information to let us know, car jacking, second incident, Thursday, August, 8, 11:35pm officer for dispatch, 3900 block of wall passing. Officer stated, as she pulled the driveway the location parked vehicle in the garage. As a victim exited the vehicle, the suspect approached the vehicle. The car victim ran into her home and suspect drove away. Officers from third precinct preserved the stain, and detective from the current auto theft unit were notified. August 9. Officers from third precinct and detective from discovered the stolen vehicle in any area of actionable and occupied officers conducted surveillance on the vehicle, suspect vehicle and drive away. Officers followed the vehicle to the area of sale and Paul at which point the suspect exited the vehicle. As the officers approached the suspect to make an arrest, again, roughing the officer after a brief foot chase, the suspect was arrested without further incident. On August 10, submitted to warrant Wayne County prosecutor's office for review was approved. The suspect was 36 District Court for stolen property receiving concealing motor vehicle, and suspect is being held in Wayne County jail on $1,000 bond. Shooting on August 9, at 439 officers for dispatch to the 3700 block of early game, investigative fatal shooting, rather than the standard of the victim being treated by medic 13. Victim was suffering from gun traveling to the chest, password to the local hospital where the victim was unfortunately held the scene homicide witnesses who said that they were arguing with the suspect prior to being shot. They described the suspect, what he was wearing, and the vehicle he was driving. And once again, anyone with information to provide us with information, Crime Stoppers will be doing a presentation on that soon also, and I don't have the information here, I do apologize, but I'm sure the body recognized that there was a young child reported as kidnapped. Over the weekend. That child, that report was false. We were able to recover the child and charge the parent with following a false police report with details on that, but it was a false claim. And then there was a second incident involving a missing child. This particular child has wandered away from the home, I believe, four times now, so we're getting child protective service involved in that, and our Child Abuse Unit is looking into that case as well. Positive stories, thanks. Then covid Community families came out, enjoyed interacting with the police. Academy graduation occurred yesterday. Room, without a coffee cake as well for police officer Nathaniel Womack, I'm sorry, check that Nathaniel Max coughing Cape will be Friday. After 25 years, that'll be tomorrow. Everybody knows that Nathaniel Mac is an MPO, very hard working MPO, hard to lose about 25 years of this work time and enjoy doing something else. The three will be here in this room, if it pleases the board and there's no questions. I can move on to the recommendations, or I can pause
here for questions. Any questions. Commissioner Moore,
thank you, Mr. Chairman, Chief last Saturday, I believe it was, it was a legal Block Party, and it was a discharge of a firearm officer. Can you give us some details on that?
I can, in fact, if AC Fitzgerald was sitting in for me, that noble Saturday, could provide some updated details?
Yeah, Steve Lord, this is Chief Carl Fitzgerald gathering 5060, people lots of alcohol. When the first unit arrived, they saw a young man with a bulge in the side of his pocket, I mean, the side of his hip. They went to investigate him. Family members joined in, mixed with a lot of alcohol. The officer had his weapon out, had an opening position as he went to holster at one of the young men in the group hit him in his mouth. Hit him repeatedly, and that's when, as he started to put it backwards, holster is when it's discharged the officer in the mouth. Yep, yeah. Mixed with your muscles and all the rest of that stuff, they struck the officer the discard. Did it happen? No one was injured. Force came out. Homicide task force came out. We went through all of our normal stops, but no one was hurt or injured. There were four arrests made immediately, and then there's two others were detained during this incident.
Thank you.
Any more questions? Commissioner Presley,
thank you. Some of the citizen reports that I'm reading and maybe, hopefully, you might be able to buy some information to the public relative to the expectation of communication from detectives. So there's a number of cases where citizens are saying they're not being reached out to detectives after the case. What is the department's expectation relative to detectives reaching out to the citizens who have pending cases? There?
Would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact that this actually brought to my attention once before by Commission, or very recently in the past couple months. So this is, this is a issue of concern that has been brought up. And one of the conversations around it has been candidly that because officers are working details, but we always work details in the Detroit Police Department, and the expectation is that we still need our responsibilities of making contact with our complainants. So we have a couple things going on right now. One is an audit to ensure that we have a process in place at every level to contact people who are victims of crime, the most certain homicide force. And there's issues around that, and I think we can do a better job there. And we explain to people when they're going to be contacted, it's not we need to have some some recorded cadence where we can say, by policy, this is what we're going to do, and I'd like to work with this body to develop that policy. We have Deputy Chief song who's over investigations and can handle that process with us. She's got the process in place already. We talked about this afternoon, improving it, but going back to domicized, it's all cases that we're hearing that on the requirement to your question is that you make contact with your complainants, that you give them opportunity to come in and make an investigation, and maybe they can, maybe they can't find their way to the pretty simple variety of reasons, and we would accommodate them to the house and take take complaints and things such as that. So to say that it's working flawless, and making issues would be improper. It's not working. I'm hearing it too much, so obviously there's a problem, but my commitment is still the process that makes sense presented to the board, not in a long time, I mean, in the next few weeks, and see how we can make some improvements. But if you have a specific area or specific or complaint, let me know where I can get engaged in that one right away, and as we build out the process long term,
but that's helpful. I speak about my colleagues to say that we welcome being able to help shape that policy. I think a lot of it will be mitigated if there was an understanding of the communication expectation for citizens. Then obviously some of the cases are very close to passion to the individual. And so I can just imagine that, you know, there'll be very little that was satisfied by way of communication, but as long as there's a policy in place, I think that helps this board hold the department accountable in how citizens are being communicated to thank you.
Yeah, direct reflect that the four that came to the board of police commission on last week who had those complaints, they all have been contacted. We worked expeditiously with the department to be able to make sure that they got the responses that they needed, you know, and we'll continue to navigate that until we get this all way together. So I appreciate the Department responded expeditiously to those families from last week. So we can say that that was
commissioner question questions for the chief our community. Want to know how many offices do your department has right now. I'm sorry, what how many officers do your department has currently,
647
I looked at it this morning, but I don't know if I can play to those numbers. I believe it's 2647 but if I may, through the share at that, the director confirm those numbers for me absolutely
all right. And also, where are we at right now when it comes to police response times,
response times through the chair are averaging under 13 minutes, nine minutes. We have some precincts that fall out of the 13 we looked at that today in our concept, but our average, in fact, I have the actual average right now,
12 minutes and 14 seconds on average citywide, for response time priority one and
chief. My final question is just recently, few weeks back, it would appear to appear that Detroit had experiences worse mass shooting. And want to know the community wants to know why that Why police did not respond sooner and went wrong where officers, you know, took too long to show up
for our no they didn't take over. Now, that's practically incorrect.
What time did the first call,
the first call that came in the office, finally, within eight minutes. Um, let's start with what?
Ambassador, uh, Commissioner,
no for one order. Uh, Commissioner, point of order. I'm still raising the question here. So for clarity, from the first time, we don't know chief what time the first Hall came in, and that's what we like to know, what time did the first call came in? When did officers were dispatched, and when did they arrive? I guess that's the communication, the miscommunication there and and hearing from the community, it took forever for the police to show that's true. You met over 20 some people that were shot could have commissioned, I think, a few.
Let's start off with the question, and then I'll answer it, and then you can add another question so I can keep up with your concerns through the Chair. Yeah. I think it's important that we articulate properly to the community. So the first question was, what went wrong? What went wrong was that someone made a decision to shoot 21 people. That's what went wrong. What went wrong is that someone decided to resolve a dispute, regardless of who was at risk, and shoot 21 people, and I share your concern, Commissioner, that is an intolerable circumstance, and as part of that, we need an investigation to ensure that we did everything we could have done, and that we hold the persons or persons accountable shooting 21 people, it could have been worse. People died in that incident. And we looked at every aspect of it, and there's an active investigation right now with homicide, as relates to the shooting as well as to the homicide. So two different things, homicides going both the shooting and the homicide together, we're also looking at our response. The fact that you say that that we responded an hour after the initial call was actually incorrect. We responded with eight minutes. There was a decision made by supervisors that we are evaluating, and that decision involved him going to another run, which was a few blocks away where shots were fired, the first call was 131 that came in, or 131 1am 1:31am the supervisor responds to that run then goes To another run where shots are fired. Now, preliminarily, an investigation is active. The decision to leave the one run for being loud and disruptive, no shots fired, and go to the other run where shots were fired was his decision at 139 the call comes back again. Now, shots fired, and that's what we're looking at, and I have been transparent with this board. There's no reason for me to, in any regard, decide that if the officer was super decision, not hold them accountable before it. But what I'm looking at is, if the decision is a board decision, or decision is an improper decision, a poor decision, we have to deal with, maybe we wouldn't have done it if given the same opportunity in the same circumstances, but an improper decision that suggests one that I'm gonna get highly engaged in, and that's where we're at right now. Yeah, thank
you, G that you have been open and handed to this board about that. And it's irresponsible say one hour, you know, and it's very irresponsible and not factually sound, even with any of the media reports. So we need to be very, very accurate when we put information out to the public Commissioner Smith and then Hernandez, then we will move on,
Mr. Chairman,
yes, yeah, this
is the parliamentarian. If I could please, sir, I would like to remind the commissioners that when you raise a point of order, a point of order says there is a rule that has been broken, and you have to state what rule has been broken. A point of order is not used if you want to disagree or if you have a different opinion, you have to say what rule has been broken, and then the chair will rule on whether or not your point of order is well taken or not. Thank you, sir. Thank
you so much. Let me reflect that Commissioner Bernard is here, Commissioner Smith and Commissioner Hernandez. Chief, you can do your presentation.
Thank you.
Thank you through this year. Good afternoon, Chief. I'm speaking today in regards to the missing Harris, the past few days, it's been a lot of vicious rumors, a lot of vicious residents, and just overall, a lot of rumors that are flying in the community in regards to her disappearance and her being missing. Her father passed away a couple weeks ago. His funeral was a couple Saturdays ago, and if you can just update the community of any formal information that will only come through the Detroit Police Department and not any rooms that are floating through the street. Please,
yes, commission, thanks for bringing that up. Cases is one that not only keeps us up thinking about but homicide team, Special Victims Unit, a missing persons group. They have to work in this case like you would not believe. We are prepared very soon to make an announcement on this case. We certainly have looked at every aspect. I have to be careful, because we are working with prosecutor's office right now. We have looked at every piece of evidence of our way, every tip. We've done a number of searches, and sadly, what I can tell you is that it's not going to be the desired outcome that any of us want, and I have to stop there as probably start ringing my phone here in a minute. But there's a lot to do, and we're getting close, but it's very tragic and sad case that has made all of us very sad. So I have a whole lot more to say and answer the questions very soon. But the case is moving. It's not cold. We have purposely not jumped in front of cameras to talk about it, because we didn't know if any witnesses suspects. We were confident on the track that we're on right now. We do know that some people may have intentionally misled us and sent us to be honest with you, but we are very confident investigators have done an amazing job. I could not be more proud of them. I can tell you that they were ultimately connected to this case weekly, and as you soon see and hear, they did everything that they could to bring this baby home and chase everything down that we could.
Thank you, Chief,
because right now, as we speak, they're out, you know, people just, I just want the community to know that you all have not given up so much, you
know, the I need to say this, you know, oftentimes, like, we just made an unrest on Dr Hoover case, and you have to understand, you know, that's a high profile case, right? And then Miss old case. And I think a lot of times that we just stop, or everybody at all, the homicide team is broken down in the squads you got people, I can take you to a desk in the homicide right now. We're in the highest picture is on this investigators desk, and she is studying that picture and everything else, and chases every league goes to all over the state, running down evidence and information and phones and you name it. But because of the high profile nature, some of those cases, people feel like we're not we are, and we will be ready to say something very soon.
Thank you. G, all right,
this
recent Thank you, Chief. All
right, thank you. Moving on to recommendation for appointment, I'd like to start with thank you to the board. Three weeks ago, a lot of questions came in, which I know it was a lot of data to look at. The more fines that I do. These are the right people to believe this department at the right time. I will start with Captain McCord. She was appointed Police Department on September 26 after completing the police academy, Officer McCord was signed eastern district operations during her time as an officer, assigned to professional education and training on August 1 2016 rank of sergeant, and then assigned to internal affairs. In addition to serving as supervisor and the police integrity unit, Sergeant McCourt responsible for investigating allegations of his conduct and abuse of authority within the department. Sergeant McCoy was also assigned to the police recruiting capital, overstaying police recruitment and hiring and enforcing department policies and procedures. On December 12, 2021, Sergeant report was right by this body of a lieutenant precinct. Unit. Lieutenant McCourt was also assigned to the Risk Management Unit, which involves identifying and assessing and mitigating potential risks and officers conduct that adversely affects the department operations. On September 26 2022 was noted to rank Captain by myself with the body. Her responsibilities included overseeing investigation into homicide, coordinating with detectives, ensuring thorough examination of all cases, shelter collaborators of law enforcement agencies and private leadership to her team and just no point. Some of the work that she's been passed with some of the responsibilities of reaching out to families and communicating, coordinating. I've watched your growth. I've watched her commitment to the city. I've watched her commitment to the overall health of this agency, which is why this recommendation is being made. I am confident that she will continue to lead with distinction as she takes on her new role. As far as education is concerned, Captain McCourt holds a master's degree in criminal justice University, a Master's of Business Administration from Florida University, and she's graduate of the School of Business as well as myself here in United States Army, military service instilled in her strong sense of discipline, leadership and resilience, very proud of her young time under the Department 2007 but it is no question that she's ready to leave. Probably make that recommendation absolutely
or so I
move her
appointment. I
want to say something, motion made by Commissioner Bernard and second by Commissioner Moore. All in favor. Any discussion,
yes, all
in favor, aye, any discussion. Just, just
quickly, I
just want to congratulate you, as did the chief announced it the chair on your many, many accomplishments. I have tremendous respect and regard for people who have served our country honorably, particularly in a leadership position. The reason I was late today was because I was visiting my uncle, who's 92 to serve 25 years in the military in Vietnam and Korea, I take off my hat, my everything. I give you your flowers while you can hear and see them today for your very, very distinguished career and your leadership. And I thank you for your leadership and everything you've done for our country and as a military person, you did it for our whole world. So thank you very much, and thank you for what you're doing with DPD.
Thank you, ma'am. The
chair, yes,
Mr. Chairman, you have to say that the motion has been
carried. We haven't been carried yet. We it's still discussion or Okay, the motion is made by Commissioner Bernard and supported by Commissioner
Yeah, and then you went into the vote. I believe, Mister Chairman, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm mistaken, I apologize. I thought you went into the vote and asked for those opposed. Debate was over. No, am I wrong?
Yeah, you're wrong.
I apologize, sir.
What? Keep me together?
Yeah, you know, it's important for the parliamentarian to be really be present in these meetings, physically and in person. But overall, you know, for our community, but also, with the department. I actually can see her, you know, one day being, you know, Deputy Chief of not the Chief, Chief of Police, the state of Detroit, somewhere else. I mean, her leadership skills, you know, is definitely, you know, very high. And I remember when the board approved her most previous promotion. So I definitely see her, you know, going a lot farther than Captain and Commander. And I can see her one day, perhaps being the deputy chief of this department, if not the chief of police someday. Okay, any
further discussion, I will say that I would absolutely say shift sentiments about three hours, two days ago, and you helped navigate so many issues for these families, and a number of the numerous family members have connected with you, have come to numerous meetings, and so you are a bonafide leader. And so, having said that, all in favor, say aye. Anyone opposed? Motion carried. Congratulations. You. Congratulations,
yes. Thank chief white for his belief in me and entrusting me to promote me. I have seen growth in myself that I didn't even know I had in homicide. I've learned so many things, and it helps so many people, and I hope to help even more so thank you for your kind words, and thank you for your vote.
Absolutely. All right, Commissioner Burton
just wanted to just add real briefly quick, is that, you know, she has made some really great appointments over the years. This happens to be one promotion that we all approve. And so, you know, he definitely understands leadership, and he understands where he may be. You know, have assurance within the department, but he's filling those gaps. And I love this appointment at a level. You know, a few other good appointments that has been made by the chief and approved by my colleagues. So you know that's
that's it. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you
every time I currently have 2600 police officers.
Thank you, Chief.
All right. The next is Lieutenant Dallas was assigned to the topic was district four operations after completing the clerk police academy during operation, in addition to pro operations, officer was assigned to Vice Director Bureau fiscal operations and training staff on August 1 recruiting and on the role of Sergeant, she was responsible for overseeing recruitment new officers. Department needs on december 21 2020,
in addition to,
in addition of the training staff unit. So she's and then she went into the training staff. She's done numerous sets of patrol almost recently the 11th precinct. Her current role is Chief liaison, and her job is unique one. She's responsible for everything from meeting with our community to ensuring that my office within the community, keep me informed on the community, some of the concerns that come up, some of our ambassadors and some of the issues that they have, the positioning of the department and the perception of the department from a ground level. One thing to be told what the department is viewed like. It's a different thing to be told what department is like for people in the field. The position was instrumental in handling and dealing with the community protection of operation, and that role was chief neighborhood liaison for the department. She's graduated University of Phoenix and criminal justice. She's graduate the Michael School of Business, was a certificate in the business and a master's from third University. Lieutenant Gonzales was in the United States Air Force. Experience has honed her relationship and leadership with the department. She's a leader. Everyone knows her. Likes her role with them. She works very hard. She tries to work me. She cannot to do everything from bike train to medical train. Loves and cared about this community and does a really, really good job for us, just with pride and make the recommendation for her as
captain, moved moved by Commissioner Hernandez and seconded by Commissioner dawash. Any discussion Commissioner Hernandez through
the chair next responsibility, because I don't know if she's been extremely valuable in her current role.
I'm working through that with zero. It will be patrol, working through some things right now.
Any further discussion?
Thank you. Yes, I have the pleasure. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have the pleasure of working with at that time, I believe Gonzalez such passion and commitment. She was working in recruitment and recruiting. And Commissioner Brooks and I were co chairs of the recruitment committee for the board, and we met with her often. She not only was very, very active in southwest Detroit, which is the community that I work in where I'm from, but and everyone knows her, last night, I didn't get a chance to talk to you because she was surrounded by people. But during that time, four or five years, when I was on commission, before my last term, we worked closely almost weekly or bi weekly. We had meetings with her, and she was just so passionate about recruitment. So I know that she's that way with all of her assignments and duties. So congratulations. Absolutely
the commission. I just want
to say thank you again, only for your service to the department, but also your service to our country. It means a great deal to me, and I'm sure to most people in this room, thank you, congratulations.
I just want
to thank congratulations. You do so much work everywhere I am, and we do live in the community. I see you everywhere. Your spirit is always high. You always friendly, outgoing and greeting everyone was I just appreciate everything that you do. Thank you so much.
Mr. Chair, yes, sir, I
have a procedural question relative to whether or not we'll be handling these individually or as a bundle the promotions from Lieutenant to captain.
We can do those as a bundle and individualize with the sergeants. I will say that she thinks she's my mother. We've I was good at alternative girls with her, with a group of young children who did not know that these were all police officers and and some of them just said they didn't like the police, you know. And she took it, and she has took it hundreds of times that we have put these events together. And so the years I've known her working with AC DC, and all of the team has been phenomenal this this lady has been stellar in this community, to be able to try to work with people who don't like the police and and see what she can do to help them. And I know that we did a baby shower of that alternative for girls, and then it was phenomenal. And so I appreciate the leadership, and absolutely, absolutely agree with this. All in favor. Say, aye,
aye.
Anyone opposed the motion is carried? Yes. The
chair, chief and the executive team. Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity and seeing the abilities that I have to move forward in a higher role. And I believe as I move up, I can connect more with people that I need to connect with. Everybody knows the community is my heart somewhere. You place me for my community, and I'm gonna lead them and guide them the same way you do with us. Thank you
very much. You
heard the bundle all of them up all the way up far as lieutenants and super
cheer.
I just asked to be clear about the motion that you're the chair. So as I get to your discretion, yeah,
I'll say yes, sir to
the chair. I like to move that. We do each, every last one of them individually, instead of the bundle.
Any support of that. Mr.
Chairman, yes, yeah. When you have a motion to bundle like this, any individual can without a motion or a second, pull names from the bundle. So the motion would be to approve the promotions of each other individuals. But if there's an objection, then anyone without a motion or a second can pull individual names, or they can unbundle the whole thing.
Okay, all
right, so please the chair. Then I will continue with the individualization of the captains and commanders because of the importance of that role. It's equally important, but different. You can pull out who you want to start. Okay, do not bundle the sergeant, yeah. Okay. All right. Moving on to recommendation from Lieutenant Dunning. Lieutenant John Dunning was appointed to the police department October 6, 2008 police officer Dunning was assigned to six precinct operations after completing the current police planning Academy. Officer Dunning was designed to patrolmen Special Operations. Obviously, for that responsibility involves handling high risk situations with specialized operations. On November 25 2013 police officer Dunning was promoted to the rank of detective and assigned to investigative operations eighth precinct detective unit during that time you did felony investigations, interviews, major crimes, including murder, home invasion and carjacking, robberies, or I also worked at organized crime, and I don't think this is correct, unless he worked at narcotics, and I missed that at my briefing. Did you work at narcotics? All right, that's not correct. I don't think so. All right, his deep understanding of criminal behavior and patterns was crucial for solving complex cases. He also assisted in high profile case investigations by interviewing witnesses and interrogating suspects. On December 19, 2016 detective Dunning was promoted to the rank of sergeant and assigned to the eighth precinct Special Ops. He was over ceasefire. Under supervision, the ceasefire unit saw significant reduction and crime gun violence within that precinct. Additionally started doing the lead Commercial Auto Theft unit, where they successfully reduced false cardiac games within the city of Detroit by using innovative technology and really following the data and interviewing those who are making the complaints. The other thing that should be noted is not here his commitment to community, commitment to community. He started a program called brotherhood, along along with Captain thurgill that has since become brotherhood and sisterhood. It came out of the ninth precinct on his own time, with his own money, took some high risk kids, and it continues to this day, brought them into an environment where they can play basketball, talk off the issues that's going on in the community in a non threatening way. He connected with them. They connected with him. We were able to reduce gang violence, reduce gun violence amongst that group that spread and it's now touching over 200 kids in our community. It is so successful that has been adopted now executive office, they're going to assist us in branching out, as you are aware, and so we have an opportunity, based on something that he came up with, with Officer Hill, to do something other than arrest our kids, right, to do something that makes sense for them, 1000s of kids. We have over a million dollars in this program around this this city. So I think that alone is worthy of compliment. But in addition to that, he was voted to Lieutenant signed a gang intelligence to defend the support team works responsible for gang activity. Lieutenant Dunning works to prevent violence and criminal behavior. That's his goal. But if arrest is necessary, he doesn't mind making it Lieutenant dining, Master's degree in criminal justice University, additional Lieutenant Dunning had a Master's of Science degree in criminal justice Wayne State University. He's also graduated Mike Hillen school, at Wayne State University, prior to recommend we could have done in the captain Absolutely.
Commissioner nandez, support by Commissioner Moore, any discussion. Yes, sir,
what a impressive representation that you provided for this wonderful officer. However, I want to know chief if you could speak to the force investigation complaints on his record and how that AIDS into your decision
and taking some risks. I pointed out this body, and I believe a second chances, I do, but this is the one that requires a second chance. Is the youth, the officer, the nature of the work that he was involved in, in conversations with him, asking him, you know, what were you thinking? What were you engaged in? One of the things that was most impressive is North excuses made a mistake. Other young officers how not to make the same mistake. Current State, I look at what he's done since he's been a supervisor from sergeant. What did he do as a sergeant when he first got the stripes? A great mentor, to many. He's connected with a lot of our captains and commanders, our assistant chief, Fitzgerald, speaks very highly of them. Meets with them constantly. Was very firm on the recommendation. We knew that we could hit a bump in the road with it, with body, but we talked about who he is and how we would both stand firm on who he is. So I make this recommendation with pride, knowing that he has been disciplined a wild role quite a while ago as a young officer in the department, running and gunning, and he recognizes that he can do things better. And he has, I don't know if you've seen
the report that we have, and this might be able to help me the numbers in front is that represent the year that the incident
was investigated, and the
document
of the promotional candidates summary to provide that under the force investigation complaints, whereas this case number then it says number 11, zero, 19. I'm wondering if that first number can help me to identify the year that this happened, because into the cheese point, it would be encouraging to know that these happened some time ago, but there isn't a year through the chair
that is the year. Okay? Thank you. Anybody?
Opportunity of working with Dunning through a community engagement specialist with ceasefire Detroit, as well as being a mentor with the sisterhood program that derived from you and brotherhood, I think you do an outstanding job. You're an amazing officer, and congratulations.
Thank you. Absolutely.
I had the opportunity to speak with the Brotherhood, and I've seen him work in this community tirelessly. So the prediction is real with this young man, and it's been far past. He has paid his news in terms of serving his community and loving on these young people and people who have and gain infested situations, being able to work with that facility, to talk with them on his own time and on his own dime, to be able to make sure they have services there with them to work with those young people. So I deeply admire that of you, young man. And I would say, what is all in favor? Say aye. And one of those motions carried, congratulations.
You. Thank you
to the board. Thank you to chief police, thank you to executive staff to appoint me to the rank of captain. I want to inspire the board I will leave with integrity on the safety and services to our community again. Thank you absolutely.
All right, moving on to the department on january 26 1998 officer was assigned to the operations. She has worked for patrol operations a precinct, and aside from control operations, Officer worked at the Office of Chief of Police and internal controls. Officer group was exposed to a variety of administrative duties. Overall, Officer Group, Avis, has acquired a wide range of skills. One of the things this board will know, she said the majority of her time in an enforcement capacity, she did do some sense work advice, but you know that as a supervisor, she consistently works for patrol on December 22 district as a supervisor at tech ops and supervisor at CIB, which is Criminal Investigation Bureau which explores the role of officer in charge of black student, she coordinated under operations and ensure that her team adhered to legal and ethical standards during her investigations. Advice on July 8, 2017, ranked, lieutenant and listen to the fifth precinct, where she served in charge of the third platoon avenues. She also served as death supervisor for communications, 911, operators and dispatchers reporting everything further. Lieutenant river does the second precinct operations and firearm training. Firearms Training goes back to the officer to the second comprehensive ceasefire unit. And now she is currently precinct correct me if I'm wrong, yes, okay, opportunity and special officer as well, leading, as I indicated earlier, very high profile cases, the most violent of the violence, and she's dealing with distinction. She's graduated the University of Phoenix justice, and she a business acumen
provides necessary to manage resources effectively. She is a person that people talk to, the officers go to put direction in the leadership, certainly being at the forefront of special operations with the amount of time that you have on the job, really serves as a deacon for those who are in patrol To get promoted, so that the
captain with this
pleasure, is moved, moved by Commissioner and is supported by Commissioner Bernard. All in favor, any discussion. Congratulations. All in favor,
aye,
any oppose, I want to
say to you, thank you so much for having the confidence in me that I will be able to move a step further with the department. Also to the board, I would like to say thank you for giving me this opportunity, and I will not let you down.
Thank you. Thank you.
All right, we're getting in here. Recommendation to Captain Scott operations after completing police academy. Officer was assigned to Eastern District, where he further homeless operations, crime and investigations and public relations on November 25 2013 officer was promoted to sergeant scientist operations, designated as the precinct admin Sergeant overseeing records management and clients with department. With departments policies should be noted that was the time that we were right in that consent judgments also was responsible for the overall supervision of patrol at the same precinct on May 2 2022 master sergeant was promoted to lieutenant and was assigned to crime scene services. So again, may 2 2022 master started in Colorado, prime scene services as commanding officer crime scene services, where it became my attention. So we look for leadership across the department. One of the things that I saw in Lieutenant at Palo Alto at crime scene services, that we have a huge number of civilians that don't get the respect, don't feel that they get the respect that they deserve, and that comes from just really a lack of access to command. Lack best access to me and professional is reality for the receiver, they didn't feel cared about. They didn't feel very sensitive and important job. It was correct that came to me and say, Hey, Chief, this is what we need for the operation. He puts in various requests for equipment, noting why it's needed, noting that his people needed to get their jobs done. Morale was an issue there. He has not only sustained morale, but we've seen less turnover since he's been there. Just amazing work, and that's the type of leader we want to act as department, unafraid to bring bad news to the chief, and not just Yes. When I ask a question sometimes the answer is no, and so I appreciate that he continues to do that, and I'm confident that he will. Lieutenant colarito earned a Bachelor's Business Administration and diversity and leadership and public service from university. Also earned a senior management certificate from clear University, and he's also my state so also has a degree in organizational leadership from Wayne State, which is also phenomenal. With that, I probably recommend his position to captain with
the budget his board. So moved by Commissioner the wash and second by Commissioner Bernard. Any discussion?
Yes, sir, just very quickly, between the range of 2006 to as early as 2019 there are a number of use of force incidents that occurred. Is there any more insight that you might be able to articulate in terms of your decision making? Yes,
I looked at those, and looked at the outcomes as well, and the assignments that he had at the time, nothing even more than I would have liked to sing, but looking at the leadership where he worked, a couple of those were complaints against a number of people, including him. I have no concerns that I saw as an outlier again, talking to both having had personal interaction with them on a number of times I asked personality, characters, demeanor, he highlighted one particular incident where positive in my interview, he brought that up with himself, but what I thought was really positive that he recognized that as a coaching element to move forward talking to the people that work for him, many of them said to me, please don't promote him. What did he do? That's always something positive. I have no concerns. Thank you.
Any further discussion? All in favor, say aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. Congratulations. You. Legislation.
Thank you guys for the confidence and chief. Thank you so much for the opportunity. I promise not to let you or the executive team Town. Thank
you. Okay,
so if we can slide the bundle of these lieutenants, you know, if everyone read everything, if anything stands out, you know, or we can discuss it, you know, we can bond those up. We can go for that.
I can get to where they want to be. All right. All right. Moving on to the rank of lieutenant in order to maintain an operation requesting to fill the open budget positions, the motion from the rank to Lieutenant is requesting for the following members,
Sergeant Aaron
Yap, Sergeant Donald, Sergeant McDaniel, Sergeant Jason Burke, Sergeant Dunbar palmerville there which one
is? Sergeant
Greg Okay. Thank
you. Okay. All right, go ahead, Chief, I
have reviewed their eligibility for motion to Lieutenant this bill's open positions. What the board will know is that one lieutenant and in particular position will take place after the position is vacated from a member who has put in their retirement paperwork. That person will be falling off the books in a week, so he will be delayed the last one bill, but he will the
recommendations, as stated by the chief,
motion made by Commissioner Bernard to approve Second by Commissioner Moore.
Yes,
any discussion? All in favor? Say, Aye. Any opposed? The motion is carried.
Congratulations.
So is any in section D, said anyone recommendation to
Lieutenant, the motion from a police officer or detective to the rank of sergeant for the following members, the detective more people, more to Sergeant detective Whitney Willis to sergeant to Detective harbor William Farber or to the sergeant Police Officer Jeremy Carnell to Sergeant detective Lauren Adams to Sergeant detective to Michael mcgiverns to Sergeant police officer Justin Matthews to Sergeant police officer. Adams law she Sergeant uh, detective James odd to Sergeant Corporal Anthony carry on, Sergeant police officer, Robert Beach, Sergeant, Detective chair Warner, Sergeant, police officer, Detroit Riley, Sergeant, police officer Juan Smith, Sergeant, the board will note that I am I make these recommendations proudly, and I think that they are A position to lead and supervise this department.
Are you guys here? Any of you here?
Oh, for real,
Chief, was there a special conference with some of these promote folks. Have a promotion with the unions. I'm just curious.
I did not have a special conference with them? Oh, wait a minute. Was there a special conference?
Thanks. Okay, all right.
I am. I move the approval of these candidates. Some of the information, of course, is, you know, chief is a little sketchy, but I have confidence and your ability to make those decisions. And I also firmly believe in the fact that if you're going to lead a team, you get to pick your team, so therefore, any other
you move to approval
by Commissioner madness, any discussion
I would like to Remove from the bundle Police Officer Jeremy carranillo,
okay,
there's no second required to remove some chair.
Yes, I like to ask our chief investigator what names that you like to see removed, since your office have already done some betting.
Well, he's not Commissioner. Is the commissioners who make that decision and will be able to make that statement, but his
public his you know, his expertise from his office and his position that he stands as chief investigator is definitely entitled making a recommendation to this board, and therefore his opinion would definitely
be we've been properly advised. We have been sent to materials office, and we have, we have to scrutinize these documents and to make whatever decision that we're going to make. I hear what you're saying, but the information has been provided, and so we have to move on. So that is removed by that batch police
officer, Jeremy perinello. I think I'm saying that, right.
Okay, all right, so no is removed from that batch with parinello removed from that batch with just the pleasure of the board. Excuse
me, I don't understand the removal process. Well, that's for made a recommendation to us, a whole group of people. I understand us having an individual objection to someone, but I don't understand how that person is therefore removed.
We deal with that separately.
So you want me to explain? Mr. Chairman,
yes, thank
you. When you have a motion to adopt a bundle of names, as as the motion would be for whatever number of names that there are, you're basically saying, instead of having seven individual motions to adopt the recommendation that you're going to adopt these seven names with one motion. Now what Robert says is, that's fine, but if one person wants to remove a particular name, they can do so without requiring a second or or at that point providing an explanation. So at this point, any commissioner can say, I want to remove so and so from the bundle, and what you then are left to do is to move adoption of who remains in the bundle, and to adopt the recommendation. Once you've done that, then you go back to the person who has been removed from the bundle, and that whoever removes that name from the bundle must be prepared to and now you still need the motion to adopt the recommendation, but then at that point, whoever removes the name from the bundle must be prepared to discuss what their reasons are for doing so. So you're taking one motion and saying, we're going to adopt all these people with one motion, and someone says, No, not person A and they have the right to remove that person. You then go ahead and complete the motion for all those who remain in the bundle. Then you go back to the person who was not approved move adoption of the recommendation, and then the person who removed that person from the bundle can speak and debate as to why they wanted that name removed.
So then we vote that name individually.
You will vote on that name individually.
Thank you. Yep.
So narrow,
Jeremy perinello,
Jerry narrow, low is removed from that batch, removed from the batch. All in favor.
Signify
by saying, aye, any opposed?
Mr. Chairman, are you? Are you? Are you moving? Adoption of the remaining names at this point?
Yes,
okay, okay, I just, I wasn't clear, because you're not moving adoption of the removal, or just you're moving adoption of the trust recommendation for the others. Okay, so thank you very much for that clarification.
Absolutely do. Two extensions. Do we need a roll call? Sure? Decision, roll call, vote and I don't think abstention is minutes. The Law
Department has given the opinion that an extension is a no vote. That's the law department's written opinion. That's not a parliamentary. Parliamentary does not agree with that, but that's what the law department has given I don't agree either. Okay,
um. Mr. Secretary wood, yes. VICE
CHAIRPERSON Smith,
yes.
Mr. Bernard,
I'll approve the rest of them Yes. And I want to come back to this.
Minister Bill, yes. Minister Burton, you.
Yes,
Minister of Minister, yes.
Okay, so the motion is approved. And so do we go straight into the the objection or the one that we removed?
You need the motion to adopt the recommendation, and then during debate, the individual who moved the name would be speaking first as to why they wanted that name removed.
Okay, Commissioner, President, through the chair.
Could we first congratulate
Bill alive? Yeah, phenomenal. Brother, too. Phenomenal. Yeah.
I would like to note for the board who was not included in that group. I am contractually obligated to promote him, looking at the contract and looking at the collective earning agreement, the terms of the agreement. Necessity concerns, significant concerns, but absent anything beyond that, I cannot ride this contractual rights to promotion chair yes sir
and special conference regarding some concerns you might have had, but you answered this
Yes, and so,
excuse Me
for the
contract. We should all know that in terms of choice,
fast practice, yes or
act in courts with the contract,
okay, what do you stand
but the changes recommended
we will follow. I recommend that we accept the the determination and recommendation of Chief white,
excuse me, Mr. Secretary, yes, let's deal with that first, and then we come come to that. Alright, okay, yep, go ahead,
because I'm objecting to it. So again, when discussion comes, that gives me the opportunity to suggest why I'm not so someone who is in favor of recommendation to promote Police Officer Jeremy Pinella to the rank of sergeant, make that motion. So
second, uh, Motion moved, um, second by Commissioner Bernard discussion.
So I truly recognize that there is very little authority that the board has to you serve what has already been contractually agreed to. And I do think that it's important with my vote, you know, to state my position on this regard. And as stated earlier, I do get into the timing and recognize that what happens where a number of incidences on the candidate summary that are relatively recent, that are pretty alarming, and that's inclusive of internal affairs investigation as well as conduct that has been deemed To be unbecoming of a police officer heard as early as 2020 and in that division, the number of youth incidents and forces, we recognize that here in the police department might be, you know, a high number before my preference is just too high. So for those reasons, I cannot support the recommendation for this promotion.
Any further discussion?
Does the chief have any comment?
I'm sure you don't share the sentiments of my colleague. I would not put my name on a on this, you know, and there's many alarming things there. And so, roll call vote,
Yes, Commissioner woods,
no. Good,
abstain.
Mr. Bell Yes, Mr. Burton, Nore No
no,
so fast so Maloof, um, what
is your pleasure just
been? It's recommended by the Chiefs officer, right,
reluctantly, okay,
well, I move the approval is consistent with the contract. It doesn't make sense for us to pay lawyers and for an arbitration or something that's going to happen anyway. Commissioner
Bell, any discussion roll call, please
do have discussion just so again, so for the public's information, again, the candidate summary, you know, possesses some very questionable and concerning behavior as recent as 2023 and 2024 and so Again, looking at these things that are on the record I can in good conscience that support this promotion
my colleague, this is too army for me To approve. So any other comments, no further comments, roll call,
vote, no.
I just saw this Alice think I'm not prepared to vote yes.
Burden, no.
Minister, Bill, yes. Commission, Moore,
Commissioner Presley, no.
Commission her then, Mr. Duos, no,
um, so it fails with us, you know. And Chief noted,
I have noted both of those, and they will not move forward. But as his body is well aware it will now move likely to an arbitration decision from here, but they will not move forward. Yes, sir. Finally, recommendations to the rank of detective to discuss. Motion to Lieutenant, the motion to please officer for the rank of the detective requested for the below members, I will note that these members come up with my recommendation, police officers, Lindsay Rogan, police Officer, Brendan Brown, police officer, romance officer Eric Darren, or Darren police officer, Smith police officer, I can do the first or last name. Thank you,
Lackey, for police officers, Shannon Bullock, Police Officer James Reese, the board will also know that there are at least two members that I went out of the sequence where the contract allowed me to see it based on their previous performance. It was not sequential with the list I skipped you because of their disciplinary history. However, the Police Officer, Larry Jenkins, who you will find in your list I am contractually obligated to promote, did it not meet the threshold to as I am obligated to endorse? That individual you will see him noted on recommendation,
with his pleasure. Do we want to separate Jenkins out of the Larry Jenkins out of that batch order information?
I'm getting some feedback when you're speaking. So I didn't completely hear the question. I'm sorry, Mr. Commissioner,
Secretary, attention. Okay.
My question was, Is it appropriate to remove from the bundle prior to the motion being made? Yes, sir. Okay, I would like to remove from the bundle. Police Officer Eric Smith,
so Jenkins is already separated and Eric Smith is removed from the batch
through the chair the chief recommendation to roll to the rank of detective. Those officers named the ones removed from the bundle
support motion made by Commissioner Presley, second by Commissioner Dewas. All in favor, say, aye, aye. Any discussion? Okay, anyone opposed? Okay, now, okay,
I abstain through this. Opposition here from Commissioner Burke
you all know, give us a roll call vote.
Yes.
I Yes, okay,
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, okay, the roll call vote is for removing,
removal for two to step, all of them, you know. Thank you. Yep, you can continue on. Miss. Secretary, yes, burden,
abstain, more,
yes, Commissioner, wash, yes,
okay, so the eyes have it. Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Any motion as it relates to Eric was Eric Smith,
yes.
What is your pleasure as to Eric Smith? If
he need a motion to accept the recommendation, then you can discuss it.
Yeah, waiting on the motion.
I I
understand the motion,
motion to accept it.
There's no motion to accept. Eric Smith, is there a motion To accept?
Larry, thank you. On. I
Larry Jenkins
again, he will not be moving to the training portion. I will not promote based on this board, but we know that the arbitration decision will come back, likely we will testify concerns this board have, but I have, but I will say this, regardless of the responsibility to provide excellence in policing to this community, they will all be held to a standard I will express my concerns to them, supervisor, and if they don't meet the one year evaluation, then there will be a recommendation to take what the opportunity may Find, and not to not to do anything and compromise this arbitrators decision, but they have to meet the standards of their new position, and if they do not, that will be independent of the arbitrators decision. It'll be documented and we'll be able to defend it. They don't meet those standards, that includes customer service, that includes their ability to interact with our community without getting this exorbitant number of citizens complaints that includes personal conduct, as I'm sure the board has seen at least two of the members. They're outside of our activity or outside of the work activity that's concerning the work activity.
Go to chair, yes, sir, this question is for you or Cooperation Council. Mail it. Wow. So tight with the collective bargaining agreement?
Well, I don't know. I don't know if it's locked in tight. I think, you know, you look at where they started, and there's been a lot of expansion of that, not a lot, but some, you know, I think what we've learned is that really the conduct occurs to prevent them from taking the test. It is not active. They take it, and that's where the restrictions are. It has to be certain threshold, which is what we met on a couple of minutes before you but you probably hear from them soon. But to your point, Commissioner Moore, I think we should have done a better job on the front end. If you keep them from taking the test. We got some room to do that now with this new contract, nothing dramatically different than the old contract. We just follow it now.
Thank you.
Thank you for your more clarity in this. And thank you for your leadership. And you know, we have obligation to the citizens of the city of Detroit that we make sure that we put great product, you know, and we see what's going on around the country, and we have to continue to prevent that from happening in the city of Detroit, and thank you for your constitutional excellence in this space. Thank
you very much. I appreciate it
absolutely.
Chair,
yes, sir, I just wanted to add that is very important that the board play a part and an important role going forward with the collective bargaining conversations, because the board has to have a presence there if we are going to be, You know, in charge of police oversight and so is this something you know,
to note the excellent
point or Communications.
Thank you, Mr. Chair, we have Miss delicious Robinson here, and then we'll go on to zoom. Okay, thank you.
Don't like make sure they keep the time. It's up there. It's up there. Oh, thank you.
Good afternoon. Good afternoon. My name is Mrs. Robinson, microphone, please, good afternoon. My name is Demetrios Robinson. I'm the voice of my deceased daughter, and I thank you for bringing that the detective. They're not reaching out to the families on December the 31st 2022, my daughter was murdered. The police, for some reason, for some unforeseen reason, are addressing it as a suicide. When the medical examiner evidence is at homicide, we have been shuffled around. We have been pushed around. I had a detective stay on the phone with me till midnight. Next to me, was I the murderer? I had the police come to my home with their guns drawn on me, accusing me of kidnapping my granddaughter. There's no justice in the justice so I'm hoping that we can get some type of results. They have enough evidence, and I was told this by several detectives who arrest the man that done it to my daughter in the same home that she was murdered in. A few weeks later, a homeless man was murdered from the basement with a dog collar. I just need justice for my daughter's surviving, seven year old daughter, this was my first born of eight, and I just need something I'm tired of. I have a daughter that had to run out of state because my granddaughter is in danger. And my daughter's voice, we have been meeting up the pavement, doing the job of the police, and it's been shuffled around too long for us not to get anything. So we'll get back with you next week, and next week don't come so that's why I'm going to be here, and I'm not going anywhere to I hear something from my my deceased daughter, the Shantae Wallace, was a voice that needs to be heard, and I'm speaking for her, because she was brutally murdered on New Year's Eve. So please, please help me as best you can under some other trying.
Thank you. Yes, ma'am, she is on the line too, and we did bring bridge that got with her, and homicide on yesterday, she should have gotten a call from the lieutenant on the case. And, you know, want to share online or whatever you know, because you know this is a very sensitive situation. But I did hear from your daughter yesterday, and I went to homicide, and I went to homicide personally, and got that information to them, you know. And so we just going to continue to pray for that situation, that it be a expeditious resolve, you know. We just got to pray over it, you know. But we bridge that gap, and you will get ongoing communication. And so they have to say, I know that she's online because she texts me okay through the chair,
Deputy Chief Gary Sloan, I'm over the detective bureau, and I have commander Rebecca McKay, who's in the audience, she's going to take you aside and speak with you personally, if you right there, just so you know, thank you. You're welcome. And
then lastly, you shared in communication with something with safety you found to be inappropriate. Now that might be within their function and has detected those questions, but if you feel that it went across the line of appropriateness, then we can definitely follow up with a citizen complaint report as well. Thank you so much. Okay,
yep, all right. You
I'm going to be very brief today, because I got an appointment, but I want to tell you, and I wish the chief was here. I'm going to Chicago, and I'm going to speak in regard that's my hometown, in case you guys don't know it. I was born and raised there, but I'm going to tell them about my police department here in the city of Detroit. I was very active in politics there in 1955 so I'm still keeping up with some of my friends there, but I just want to let them know what kind of police department that we have here in the city of Detroit, and I'm going to be bragging my so and so off, because I do believe in our police department. I'm down there at Greektown on the weekends, and I survey what our police are doing down there, and they're doing a good job. They know me, and I tell them all the time to be safe down here, because you are taking care of the city of Detroit. So wish me luck. When I go and talk to them and tell them what a hell of a police department that we have here in this city of Detroit. I know we have prime just like everybody else, but compared to last month when I was down in Memphis, we don't even come near them people down there. So I'm just telling you, I'm going to talk about you, and I'm going to tell the truth. We do have some, you know, we do have some false with our department. But in all, and all the years that I've been here in the city of Detroit and dealt with the police since 73 when Coleman Young was the mayor, I think I'm doing a good job in saying that our police department is the best, and those that are on this board that don't give credit to our police department, you need to pray and Consider yourself lucky to be in the city of Detroit. I thank you very much.
Thank you. Chair Yes, sir.
Wanted to add that you know, it'd be nice if you know if, if you also talk about, you know, the community participation and and how they plug into the police work, missions, meeting, how they express policy issues, you know, involved in oversight, which is the borders, you know, primary, you know, duties, and so this is always good to share that too, because we wouldn't be elected commission body as well as those that are appointed without the community. You know, echoing, you know, charter change, which some of us came on. And because of the 2012 charter change, you got commission myself, Commissioner Moore, and you know, and, and Carter gave one because of the charter change. We remember when it was a five member commission board. So now you have those are elected and those are appointed, which is, uh, makes it a very unique board across the country. Okay?
Thank you. Great point.
Mr. Foster.
Good evening,
good evening.
And first, everyone is to just come down and say, transparency. I'm very grateful that you guys asking the right questions and making an effort to keep our community a lot safer from not just from police as well. I think that's important that you guys are taking that stance. Secondly, I want to encourage you all to do a little more to bridge the gaps within our community. What I mean by breach of gaps is not just being visible, but really helping change a perspective and how we all conduct ourselves and interact and engage with our community. Our youth, whether we know it or not, they are begging and craving for engagement. They're craving for positive engagement. You know, they don't want to have the fear or anxiety of police encounters, and those are things that we personally can work on and changing their perspectives and how we encounter our youth. Thirdly, I know it was a sad situation with the sheriffs here, but I'm personally asking this board to create policies that anybody going to any police district should stop in and check in with the wash commander or the duty supervisor, regardless of whatever positions that they're doing in the city. It's very important that nobody is running around our city rogue and trying to enact or enforce laws while simultaneously breaking laws. The color of law, color of state, is real. You cannot put on a uniform and enforce and enact anything outside of your jurisdiction or by any other means. And then lastly is a right. MCO section, 7.766 highlights everything that our victims have rights to. It. Let's do a better job in giving them their rights. Thank you.
We're going into zoom election integrity rule
you may be heard.
Can you hear me clearly? Darryl woods, yes, sir, last week, Commissioner, but Bernard was about to make a request to subpoena the Michigan State Police report about conditions, death by Mimi won't what she won't. I went through everybody, this whole city. You in the way now, man, you in the way. Get out the way, because me and Nini coming through now, there's no way that Kenisha, left handed individual took a nine millimeter weapon and shot herself in the left side at that trajectory that that bullet traveled to go out her back. There was no bullet Raglan at the scenes, no suicide weapon at the scene. The Michigan State Police found out what happened to that unemployment insurance fund money that came up missing, conditions money they found out exactly what happened to that now there was imma ask you to step down. Man, resign from the board police commissioners. I didn't checked into you when you was over there, Brian uh Correctional Facility stepped out from the board of police commissioners. Man, get out of Mimi's way. Get out of her way. She coming through. She want to know the truth that her she knows her mama didn't shoot her. Take her to Disneyland. She asked me this in 2021 I've been going through all this now we need to subpoena the Michigan State Police report so the truth can be known. Michigan State Police said there's not enough evidence to demon the suicide. That's what they told Kenisha mother, that's what that damn report should say, too. You.
All right, thank you. Next speaker,
former Commissioner William Davis,
you may be heard.
Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Okay, I'd like to start off by saying I think that DPW and PC should do more about tracking arresting in Detroit. Also, yes, how much in lawsuits this cost, because I'm also president of the Detroit active retired employee association. So you know, we should not be burdened with the cost of people that's doing wrong. Also as a change, I like to say that I was pleased to see that child voted against some officers today. That was one of the problems I had with some of my colleague when I was on the board. There was a number of times when I was the only person voting against a promotion for someone in the past. In fact, that was one of the problems I had with Eva coming back. I personally like evil, but far too often, too many people are too willing to go along to get along. And I think if an officer has a bad record, even if ultimately, arbitration gives them the promotion, you know, the board should take a strong stand against people who have bad records, you know. So I hope y'all do a little bit more, especially as it relates to tracking wrongful arrest in the city of Detroit, far too many black and brown people get wrongfully arrested. That still goes on. There's been a problem for 30 years Thank you.
Thank you anymore.
Yes,
sir, we have three more. Okay. Caller with the initials, S, H, R, W, l,
state your name for the record. Are you president?
I can go to the next speaker, sir. Okay, our next speaker will be Mr. Theate Smith, please state your name for the record, because I miss pronounce your name. You
maybe heard Smith.
Good afternoon, commissioners. I just want to give a shout out to Commissioner Moore for his bringing up that that rogue detective who had all of those, you know, fraudulent convictions based off her methods. Also want to speak about Sherman Butler, Lieutenant that was murdered in a Palmer Park eviction. I would love for one of the commissioners to make a motion to release that body cam footage and another, another commissioner to second that motion. Also want to talk about the missing persons cases in the city of Detroit, and the mother who came last week. Her son's name is Amari, who we recovered yesterday, within less than a week without any police resources, after the police put the wrong picture of her son out, I just want to say there are so many missing kids because officers are not doing enough to look for these missing kids. There's no way that a few people just using the community resources without any big budget, like the city has this multi million dollar budget the city has for the police department should be able to have to recover for children that are missing in the city, and we have all these officers out here getting promotions. And also, I want to talk about homicide, the fact that homicide is and the chief is just promoting officers to different ranks, and their cases are being left open, and the fact that we have two people talking about murders that are deemed suicide by these detectives in homicide because they don't want to have to do the work that they have to do to solve and close these cases. Um, also want to talk about the seven precincts, and the fact that I filed several complaints from seven precincts, and the fact that these officers, there's lots of good officers in seven precinct, but there are lots of bad officers. Lots of bad officers at the seven precinct. Especially, I want to talk about Lieutenant O'Gorman, who is over Metro, and also to talk about the fact that skip around for Lieutenant Cole. Have not talked to internal affairs by Lieutenant Cole, but there's Lieutenant O'Gorman, who's a part of Metro, who's breaking up these block clubs, who watched the officer assault me and didn't do anything to intervene as a lieutenant who's been on the force for several years, for 20 plus years, I'm sure, and he's a trained lieutenant, that's unacceptable. You need to fix these issues.
Thank you. Next comment,
Miss Tara Brown,
hi. My name is Tara Brown, good evening. Commission. I want to echo what can you hear me?
Yes, good evening.
I'm sorry. Good evening. I want to echo what jadonte said. It would be great if one of you all made a motion to get that body cam and another one of you second seconded on Sherman Butler's case. Again, Sherman Butler has been dead 30 days, and the public has no information on what happened to him. There are problems in 36 District Court. I've had the opportunity to look at some of the records surrounding his housing. It looks like the company that took him to court didn't weren't even supposed to be taking him to court because the building had been sold to somebody else, and it had been sold well before he was taken to court. So there are some things that need to be investigated on that case, and we would like to see the body cam. The other thing I want to say is, usually I'm in here complaining about the police commission. But tonight, I was really proud of you all, because I noticed some information. I came across some information regarding one of the officers that you turned down, Joseph Maloof, yeah, you all, if you all aren't sure, you need to speak to Conrad mallet and Mike Duggan about him, because they worked with him when he was terminated from DMC. He has some problems, and this is part of the problem. The City of Detroit hires suburban police officers that are not vested in our community, and they come here and beat the hell out of the residents and mistreat them and cause lawsuits, and then they get to go back to their suburban communities, and the millions of dollars that they are costing us is not affecting them, and that needs to stop. And even though you all will probably go to arbitration and lose, just know the community is supporting you all for doing the right thing tonight. Again, he probably, he definitely needed to be stopped, and it was probably a couple of them in other batches that needed to be stopped, but y'all are making some steps, and I'm really proud of y'all tonight, because, again, like I said, I sent y'all some information, and I had the opportunity to review a lot of that information, and yes, he did not need to move forward. And the fact that the chief had to sit there and dryly mentioned that he was going to be promoted should concern everybody in the city. Thank you.
Thank you
any I was going to go back to the last person again, the person with the initials S, H, R, W, l, they're not responding, sir,
okay, Mr. Chairman, yes, sir. I do have a question for Deputy Chief. Song, yes, the department is categorizing this as a non officer involved shooting. In regards to Sherman Lee Butler, the man in Palmer Park, it doesn't appear that he was officer involved, not that officer did the shooting, but the officers were involved in the shooting because of the taser. Can you elaborate on that? Please?
The chair. I can't give specifics as to the investigation, but it is ongoing. It's being handled by a homicide Task Force, being handled by homicide task force with MSP taking the lead on
the investigation. Correct? Yes, sir. So I would like to make a motion with what the public wants, Mr. Chairman. Literature, to the Sherman Lee Butler shooting that occurred by 1220, 24 another chiefs, 45 day release mandate second
motion made by Commissioner Moore to release the footage of this Sherman Lee Moore, Butler, Butler, excuse me, case within the 45 day mandate, and it was second by Commissioner wood Burton and discussion, yes, sir, thank
you Chair. I just it may be, and this is my own opinion, but it may be a little too preliminary. Second to that, we'll have to probably review policy, but it's very likely out of the jurisdiction of this board to be able to request that. So I would just put that out there in consideration as you vote. It's not that we don't have a desire for transparency clearly, renew it as a body. I would just ask that we consider all factors that are at stake when making this decision. Absolutely.
And my question DC Sloan is, I guess, building off of Commissioner Moore's inquiry, is the categorizing an incident as an officer involved shooting or not, what triggers the 45 days? So in this instance, because it was not considered an officer while the shooting was it the department's intention to eventually release the 911 camera footage, or because it was not considered an awesome wall of shooting, the department would not be required to do so
through the chair commander McGinnis.
Do you have any specifics related to
that? Yes, because this is not an officer involved shooting, it doesn't fall into the policy related to the 45 days. So it says a criminal investigation being conducted by homicide Task Force, okay?
And that's a big concern to me, and I don't know if there's something we can do in reviewing the policy, because this suggests it is what department is doing. But the class item is non tuning. Um, allowing them to not have to release, maybe something that creates a loophole where I don't think we want one in the policy,
if they could make the request for the video through the chief's office, and then the chief's office will respond appropriately.
Thank you.
Put a netting letter together and send it
together and send it. Yep.
Okay, all right, so do you
motion? Yeah. Well, in the interest of the public, I want to keep the motion absolutely
yes, sir,
if my colleague would accept? Would you consider, through the chair? Would my colleague consider rewarding the language of the motion to say that it's a letter that's going to the chief?
So other words, the motion would be for a letter to go to the chief, to release the audio war camera pushed to us, the board, to the public,
to the board, well,
we're sorry. We're the
letter would be a request that we send to the chief of police to make that determination. If it's released to the
public, to go to the chief look at the release of body worn hammer footage.
Okay, motion made that is good. You want to amend that. I need to make vote on the amendment now, right
until, until that original motion was stated by the chair, it belonged to Commissioner Moore. So since you had not stated the motion, Mr. Chair, Commissioner Moore was free to amend it or withdraw it, however he wanted to do. Thank you. So there's no amendment at this point. What you need to do at this point, Mr. Chairman is state the motion as he has restated it, with the conditions that he added
absolutely motion made by Commissioner Moore to send a letter to the chief asking to release the body body cam footage of the Sherman Lee Butler, incident to the public motion made by Commissioner Moore, any second, second, second by Commissioner Hernandez. All in favor. Say Aye. Any discussion? All in favor? Say aye. Anyone opposed the motion carries. Thank you, surgery up there. So let's go to begin to report from the act of war Secretary
report, but I go straight to announcement, yes, the next PC meeting will be Thursday, August 22 3pm here at public safety headquarters. Next the OPC community will be September 12, 2024, 6:30pm, with the first four precis hosting at Kennedy Recreation Center. Address is 22604342174, oh, Fourth Street, 4217, and Mr. Chair the monthly committee meeting scheduled for August 2024 meeting will be meeting Tuesday, August 2020 24 at 5pm and those will take place here, public sector headquarters, and also can be viewed also,
okay, all right. Thank you new business, Budget Committee. Chair, Commissioner.
Thank you, Mr. Chair, please, commissioners. Budget Committee, I'd like to present the key updates from the committee meeting yesterday, August 14. Commissioners were Commissioner. There was commissioner, Susan Hernandez and myself, the budget committee discussed an important matter regarding pay discrepancies and disparities for employees within our organization. This was also planned at the full Board meeting two weeks ago. Upon careful review and analysis, the Budget Committee has identified opportunities to reconcile pay for the following position, positions, one administrative assistant, one supervising investigator, one OCI investigator and one acting secretary to board the budget committee would like to recommend the Following pay adjustments, which will bring parity to the bopc staff and provide back page to employees that have set up into a higher band of title and responsibility for the sake of the bopc, these recommendations are being brought to the full board for consideration. Number 193, 1440, administrative assistant position of the board of police commissioners. On behalf of the Budget Committee, I would like to recommend closing the pay gap in our administrative assistant employees compensation, bringing this employee salary up to 57,550 number two, supervising investigator of the board of police commissioners. On behalf of the budget many I would like to recommend bringing our supervising investigator salary up from up to $80,450 Additionally, it is the Budget Committee's recommendation to provide this employee the prorated amount of 40,500 5000 in back pay for the three plus years this individual out of class and supervising investigator. This sum reconciles disparities between standard levels of out of class pay OCI peers have received for the same title and the levels of compensation this employee has received over these years. Number 393, 2503, investigator of the board of police commissioners. On behalf of the Budget Committee, I would like to recommend bringing our investigator salary up to 54,500, additionally, it is the Budget Committee's recommendation to provide this employee the prorated amount of $550 back pay where the 15 months individual was being paid below the standard Union United salary. This sum reconciles disparities between what this employee is currently making with more than a year of experience and what new hires, hires are making today, and then number four, standing secretary of the board of police commissioners. On behalf of the Budget Committee, I would like to recommend providing the prorated amount of 34,318 and out of class pay for the eight months. Our standing secretary has stepped up into this role and responsibility for the board, for all of these recommendations, there is a favorability in the current fiscal year budget to execute these pay reconciliations. Thank you for your consideration. The next budget committee will be determined at a later date. That concludes my report. Mr.
Chair, yes, you when it comes to the secretary position and act and Secretary position has the city? HR, weighed in on this matter of the sea is a raise is proper? Mr. Freeze,
you've come up, yep, um, yeah, I was discussing the meeting. He can answer that.
Mr. Chair, yes, good afternoon. The city of HR, as well as the compensation division have reviewed these recommendations and they have not raised any flags. They did call out a similar call out to the board the last time this is presented that some of these recommendations originally were were guided that they should be lying paid all the same time. Sentiment from the board is that we need to acknowledge and respect tenure and seniority. It has since been amended to make sure that the ladder of seniority is acknowledged. That was the one called off from HR. No other red flags were raised by HR.
Do we have a copy of that?
Copy of that through the Chair? Yes, sir, could we allow the chairwoman of the budget committee to provide the recommendation that came out of committee? Yeah, absolutely.
The recommendation
to adopt the report.
Yes. Motion. So what you're asking? Okay,
I move that we adopt our recommendation of the recommendation of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, yes, yeah, the motions were made by the committee, and she said recommendations, but she really is making a motion by the Budget Committee. And therefore the board does not need to make a motion. You can divide she made four motions. The board has the authority to take them seriatim, which means one by one, or you could adopt all four. Or same thing that we did with the recommendations for promotion. You can take all four motions made by the committee. The committee can bring the motion, as long as it's the committee of more than one person, right? So she can bring the motion, and then all the board has to do is devoted up or down. Yes,
yeah, my recommendation of the Budget Committee step entertain a motion to accept a budget committee report
for a division on each one of these line item,
they can be taken seriatim, Mr. Chair, you can take them one by one. Okay,
all right.
Okay, so you want me to read each one individually again, read the title, just if
the chair of that committee, instead of saying recommendation, could say, by order the Budget Committee, I move, it would still be the Budget Committee's motion. So, Mr. Chairman, what you would say when you carry that motion is, it is moved by the budget committee, but the language needs to be, if you excuse me, Madam Chair, by order of the Budget Committee, I move the following recommendation, thank you.
Thank you.
Okay. By order of the of the Budget Committee, I move that the first item the pay gap in our administrative assistant employees compensation, bringing this employee's salary up to 57,550
Do we need a second?
Is required, because it's the motion by Committee. Okay,
discussion. If I could yes through the Chair, I'll just remind my colleagues that a few weeks ago, this body actually adopted the motion to send it to budget committee so that we have the proper amount of time to do more due diligence, which Mr. Freeze has doubled down and stated just moments ago. So I would ask each of you to consider that in the way that you vote for these motions, we've had this information for quite some time, and it's important for us to move forward with these absolutely
so you're making a motion to further discussion. Any further discussion? Any further discussion? Chairman,
it's important that you state the motion, because that's what puts it in front of the board.
I'm looking where's my memo? Thank you. All right. Thank you, Chair. Excuse me, go ahead discuss,
to be sure, before we approve any of this today, you know, I urge this body to do a valuation, you know, of, you know, to do evaluation, I mean, to prove salaries increases without evaluation of performance. You know, I think, I think it's preposterous at his time good employee not to say that they're a bad employee, not saying neither, neither or but I think it is very important that we do evaluations of performance before we start getting salaries or room salaries or pay raises at this time. Okay, sure,
yes, those evaluations have been conducted. And I know Mr. Freeze would like to elaborate
through the chair the ask of Commissioner Burton was also called out by the commissioners that sit on the Budget Committee and performance is important to acknowledge and to be a part of these decisions that the performance has been garnered from that of Chief Warfield and standing Secretary Robert Brown, and what's contingent on this decision for the recommendation from the budget committee. And it is with that performance and the acknowledge of that performance that the recommendation is being made,
the chair one question is, when, what? When was that evaluation conducted? Have commissioners received anything in writing about evaluation, and who was all present for that? And so what type of time frame were you talking
to supervisors to do the evaluations? You know we you know they are their immediate supervisor. Absolutely.
Question is, move Yes. So, yeah, all in favor to adopting the budget committee report and adopting the compensation for the administrative assistant.
Madam parliamentarian, I moved to the question second, did that require a vote?
Yes, sir, does
all in favor move into the question? Say, aye, balls, the motion is carried, and now by recommendation of the Budget Committee on on issue, 1931440, administrative assistant board to the Assistant Board of police commissioners to adopt the budget committee report on issue one, all in favor. Say, aye, and one opposed the motion. Scared. Same. One, Okay, number two.
Number two, by order of the Budget Committee, and this is regarding the supervising and investigator of the board of police commissioners. I order the Budget Committee, I would like to move that, that we bring the supervising investigator salary up to $82,450 in addition, recommend that we provide the or move that we provide the employee, the pro rated amount of 40,000 505,000 back pay for the three plus years this individual has been Working out of class as the supervising investigator.
Any comments? No comments. Recommendation of the public budget committee. I entertain a motion to adopt, no,
no, the motions made by the Budget Committee, Mr. Chair, you just need to
state it. Okay, if there's no objections, okay, there being no objection, we move forward to number three. Number 32503,
the investigator position of the board of police commissioners. By order of Budget Committee, I move to bring our investigator salary up to 54,500, and move that we provide the employee the appropriate amount of $550 to back pay with a 15 months this individual was being paid below the standard Union at his salary
by recommendation of the Budget Committee. We I entertain a motion or not entertain a motion, that emotion has been a motion has been made to adopt item 3932503, investigator of the board of police commissioner. No, there's any discussion.
Discussion? Yeah, you know, question for the chief investigator, how many? How many cases have they closed? Year to date, how many cases they have that's been working pending at this time and,
well, this, this, you know, we, if it's talking about this particular individual, we will want, we will not want to put there that would be against the law for us to do that.
I think chair, when we talk about pay, raises and increases, things of that nature, other individuals as working out about the class evaluation performance is very important. We also as well as we need to know how many cases those investigators are working on, how many clothes, how many are still pinion where we are, along with the backlog of cases that was confiscated. And
particularly,
but still we, you know, but give us on a pay raise, or whatever. We have not seen the valuation. We have not read the valuation was conducted. We don't even know for the investigators, how many cases these individuals have received year to date, how many was closed by this individual year to date questionnaire, very important to know that before we move forward,
all in favor of moving forward with questions one of the polls, the motion is carried by recommendation of the Budget Committee issued item 3932503, uh, investigative board of police commissioner uh is adopted. If there being no objections, there being no objections, we'll go to item four.
I'm gonna stay Okay.
Thank you, Mr. Chair, standing secretary of the board of police commissioners. By order of the Budget Committee, I would like to move to provide the prorated amount of $34,318 and out of class pay for the eight months. Our standing secretary has stepped up into this role and and responsibility for the board.
Question, yes, sir,
why is it called standing secretary, as opposed to Acting Secretary,
Acting Secretary,
standing secretary, that's the first I've heard of the title standing secretary. Chair
I believe that the standing and acting. I have had the impression that both of these are synonymous. If this is a typo and it should be acting, then you have my apologies. I
just never heard the term before. So if it's because, you know, okay, thank you. Chair,
our, our,
you know. Sorry, Mr. Chairman, you need to state that motion before you have debate. Right until you state the motion is not in front of the board to be discussed. So thank you.
Item for standing secretary, board of police commissioners, both police commissioners, is recommended for adoption. There is there further discussion to be chair? Got it? You know, bring this to a closer so we can finalize our meeting
our understanding as a board was that the act as a secretary position was not a temporary position. It was not. It was more acting. It was, wasn't. It was, you know, it wasn't, didn't have anything to do with change of income to like salary, or pay raise, or anything of that nature. It was more someone you know, and so that's why it's very important to know have this gone before CDH charge to see if this, this raise is proper employee was, you know, good employee, but you know, our standing as a body, as a vote, body that, you know this was, like, you know, this position, act was just something that was, you know, was, was was given to, you know, at the time, but it wasn't, didn't have anything to do with,
you know, okay.
I mean, they were not, they were not the secretary to the board, and therefore, didn't have any chairs
every, you know, remember, there
was not an interim.
I think I have the floor point of order. Point of order. I
have information. I want
to order. Commissioner order. Commissioner Burton,
I have the floor point of order. I was still speaking, and you cut me off. I was recognized by the point of information. It's very important that we have that information.
Thank you, wonderful. Just for the matter of context, I was the chair at the time of the transition from our secretary resign and act was brought. I think it's important to note that he unwillingly accepted him. He didn't want to do it, but he said he would, and that was for six weeks. It was my intent that he would only have to do that job for six weeks. It's been eight months. And I think that the language that is being used about raises a bit misleading, because this case is work already been done that, again, was outside of his normal classification. And even for the ones that were already voted on, it's bringing them up to what we're bringing new people in on and so again, I think there's some need for clarity in that regard. Six weeks. It's been eight months, and I think it's more than earned to be back eight. Permission.
Hernandez, thank
you, Mr. Chair. Again, I'll just maybe for the time, remind my colleagues and assure the public in that same sentence that the budget committee has highly, highly trained and educated and qualified commissioners on the Budget Committee, yes, and also on personnel and training, and so we've done our due diligence on More than one occasion, and I just want to reassure everyone that we have fact with every stakeholder possible to ensure we're in full compliance and within budget.
Thank you.
So by recommendation of these budget committee, if there's no objections, we adopt the standing secretary, board of police commissioner, pay adjustment, or, or, yeah, I would say the pay adjustment. If there being no objections, Mr.
Chairman, no objection. But I do have a question before you go to Item B of the new business for the deputy chief, if that's okay, yes,
sir. So have a new business item. Okay, all right, so there have been no objection this. It is adopted. All right, go ahead.
Is there? You're done, ma'am. All right. Thank you. Commissioner Moore,
any complaints about officers running up on people in gas stations or CCWS and using their gas station like that for the chair? No, sir, I have
not heard any complaints about that. But as you know, our department is committed to policing constitutionally. So if there's any specific complaints that you have, we'd be happy to address it. I've
just been hearing it off and going for a minute, and I'll just wonder if they have risen to your level yet, and I don't know if that I hear yes. So that is a concern that, you know, I would like the department look into. You know, people pumping gas and just being a pump gas, but it just seems like folks are being targeted at gas stations for guns. So thank you,
chief. I've heard the same concern, go ahead that you just minding your own business, either in a gas station, buying potato chips or whatever, and the officers will approach you and say, Are you carrying a gun? Are you carrying a gun? You know, that's in a very aggressive tone. So it is a problem is, and it happens only to young black males. So it's a real problem, and it's one that needs to be addressed, because it is, it's floating, it's happening as we're speaking. So if you could remind the officers and your day talk, or whatever, you call them in the morning with them, that is a violation of policy, a violation of procedure, and that they can be obviously held accountable
closed session.
Before we do that, I have a motion new business. Yeah,
we still in a new business. We don't be as a new business. So entertain a motion to go into closed session
only one minute,
motion made by Commissioner Presley and second by commission, Commissioner Hernandez. All in favor. Say, aye. Anyone opposed, the motion is carried. All right, we're going into closed session. Recording stopped to be a three minute, four minute recess. You
Yes, all we have to
do is that'd be fair to them.
Well, time
licenses than anybody in the room. Emotional, yeah, that that we authorized,
Okay, last week,
I know that he wouldn't turn to me.
I didn't want you to do it during the public comment.
It was over at that point, right? Yeah, it was really, we need to do that. I'm tired of dealing with it. He's a member of the community, a woman that has that, sir, how hard that'll be. Just done. Sorry, I
was in a pension meeting when called.
You submitted Jones, and I think you meant to say more with
folks, the
accomplishments. In custody, death.
Oh, and you had Jones in there instead of somebody Jones, you just used it one time. And I'm like, I just want to make
sure yes, it
was a typo. I think Jones is actually
the partners. Okay, so, yeah,
sorry, but okay, yeah,
they just because
this is
Oh yeah. No, yeah,
oh, he just grew up. Look, look, right.
They got their fast. So
tell Chief does some very good dispatch in time. Yeah,
oh, that was me, Paul.
They're fast. That's very fast.
Oh, can I just give you this last
time We're getting kicked out
The room? Okay? Disconnected. We
The this closed door session is called the order, August the 15th, 2024 The time is 528, of order call the roll tip. Present, Vice Chair princes Smith,
present, Mister her name, Mister Mister person, Mister Bernard. Listen to more mis President Bill. What is your pleasure? I think normally, introduction is introduction of DOP ACTING BOARD SECRETARY, Robert Brown,
Francis Jackson, parliamentarian Michael McGinnis, professional standards.
I resources. Matthew forest,
Albert green is also Ronald Thomas could do it. What is your pleasure through the chair? Before we enter in just a moment, I
just got a text message that the audio is still verifying some hope that the audio will still Need some technical assistance. Thank.
