You're listening to cubicle to CEO episode 194. Today's case study is a masterclass in audience growth and retention for any content creator to pay extra attention if you're a fellow podcaster. Les Alfred, podcast host and founder of balanced black girl joins us on the mic to divulge the juicy details behind her podcast meteoric rise from 70,000 to now 350,000 monthly downloads and impressive 5x growth in just one year. Bounced black girl is an online wellness community and podcast focused on mind body health habits spacious productivity, financial wellness and self care, amassing more than 7 million downloads and 1500 5 star reviews since the show's launch in 2018. Les is a podcasting powerhouse who prefers sustainable strategies for listener growth over quick hacks. She'll be sharing how she keeps listeners coming back week after week, her weekly content plan for creating highly shareable social media posts to promote each episode and how she activates listeners to put into practice what they hear on her show.