With thinners like anticoagulants coagulants like warfarin. So especially if you get flush, like excess niacin, this you know, with the thinners, it thins your blood and so this the vasodilation as it opens up your capillaries it also you know further makes the blood you know, bloodstream kind of the socity less and so it flows more. So people with like low blood pressure especially, but this is mainly with the excess niacin flush, it will exasperate this and, and it will be you know, it's just it's way too thin a blood then and way too fast flowing. So that's like the you know, one of the main things to not kind of ever mix with with niacin, especially solo and I wouldn't recommend it with this protocol, because you're still getting some vasodilation and thinners are okay, but you know, this protocol does that the the, the what, what are the anti thrombotic properties of niacin, especially with the melatonin and getting it all the niacin yourselves and clearing this gunk that's you know, this is how clotting kind of progresses is the gunk in weapons and clogs blood and this can mean in many ways even the micro clotting . Oh, that can go in on now exhausted but basically, this protocol will be much more efficient, cleaner, natural and effective at any kind of anti thrombotic clotting resolution and prevention. So, but the thinners you know, see, I want to I want to do them at all, I would just drop them but you know, if the if the individual's stubborn about it, make sure to space them out like yeah, three, four hours apart and your best try to hit those sweet spots and there's no excess. And then it's like, you know, where you get to the sweet spots? I mean, you can drop them, you know, the individual wolf will will feel better early finally. And those those thinners you'll see are inferior and yeah, I would never mix them. Especially and yeah, I mean it's it's something that you know, again that's another decent are acts in that it can be completely dropped cold turkey in this transition. But it's you know, I'd say like what gets getting to the sweet spots. That's I mean, you can just throw the thinners in the trash. Then once you get to the sweet spots. It's it's unmatched.