And so at some point, we're beginning to see this how this works. suffering and freedom from suffering. Clinging and the release from clinging. And sometimes we see it in small ways. We see that we were impatient about something. And then we could let go that impatience and we feel "Wow, this is a much better way to be, it's not dramatic. But why add this tension to my life when I don't need to. And I just be patient here are like, I don't have to even be patient, I just have to let go of the impatience." And so to begin tuning into that the experience of having something which has tension, suffering, pain, all kinds of things that fit into this suffering category. And to have an experience of it being like letting go. That there's freedom from it. And then we start tasting for ourselves what the Buddha is about. We start becoming our own teacher in a sense of the path of freedom. So that for beginners, the Eightfold Path is putting in place a healthy sense of self, healthy way of living in the world. So we don't have any remorse. So we don't have any self criticism. We don't get caught by doing things which are wrong speech and wrong action and wrong way of thinking and things like this. And so we're putting together a kind of a healthy sense of self, so that we can let go of at all. And ease, so we can see more clearly where freedom is. And then as it goes further along, this Eightfold Path, that experience of freedom is so qualitatively distinct that it could almost take our breath away. It's like, "wow, that's the potential. It's not just, you know, letting go of impatience at a traffic light. There's a phenomenal release of, even of self, even of self concern, even of the deepest ways in which we're attached or in which we organize our lives. And it's, wow, this is good." And then we really know the full potential of this freedom. To know a kind of a full experience of the heart's freedom. And have that now as a reference point. Then we become increasingly sensitive to all the different ways in which we do cling. And this is part of the ongoing path is to develop a greater and greater understanding of the subtler and subtler or deeper and deeper. Because ways in which there's clinging, attachment, wanting, that limits us. That keeps us from being free. And because we've had the experience of a very full freedom, we have a heightened sensitivity to it. It's like having a piece of clothing which you've been wearing for a long, long time. And it's gotten really dirty and you don't really ever wash it. You don't even even notice it getting dirty anymore, because just one more dirt doesn't show any more than all the others. And finally, the cloth is completely cleaned, and 100% clean, like it was new. And then we know this is what it can be like, a clean. And then putting a little dirt on it. "Oh, look, it's dirty now. I see now it's really clear." So the mind can be that way as well. And so the knowledge, the right knowledge that comes at the end of the Eightfold Path in a sense, is really the dramatic knowledge, the fuller knowledge, oh, this is what freedom can be like. Something that really gets our attention so much so that it shows a potential for psychological health, health of the heart that's so palpable and so compelling that now seems so much more important than many other things that people are caught up in their lives. Many other things that people think are really important, and they have to have or need to have.