Yeah, absolutely. So I think of journalism client work is like the bread and butter middle. Tier. And I'm not saying that in a derogatory way, just like from the prestige factor of our industry. The Atlantic, you know, has very few people that have regular gigs there. Right. And so it's more of the sort of middle tier bread and butter. So I would look for trade publications, I would look for places that have like, for instance, experienced Life magazine is published by Lifetime Fitness. That's one of my favorite clients. And so it's a magazine. It's a journalistic publication, but it has it doesn't have that sort of a newsstand. USA Today magazine group had a magazines like that as well. So ones that are not everyone's top three, want to get landed in. And also, I would also ask like the editors you do get successfully into, just say, Hey, do you have regular writers because I'd really like to be one. I am in the OMA women's leadership accelerator this year, and we had a workshop in, in in Chicago in March. And at the end, we sort of talked about like, what is our hope for the next six months? What do we want to achieve? And I wrote down I want to have a podcast newsletter or column writing about either behavioral and mental health or journalism, equity and ethics. And then I asked the editor at Neiman reports. Hey, would you want me to write a column about media equity and ethics? And she said, Oh, yeah, we'd love that. How often do you want to write it so sometimes youth You know, the relationships you already have, can develop into that regular gig if you just ask, and even Washington Post I've been doing one off pitches to The Washington Post for a years. And then a couple of years ago, Amy Joyce, who edits the on parenting section said, I'm really tired of managing all these essays, freelancers, and they were moving from like an essay, personal essay model to more reported features. And she said, You know, I'd like you know, I'd like you to be one of my regular people, because I know, that's the kind of work you do having come from journalism, and not being a personal essayist, which a lot of her writers were. So I think it's definitely possible, especially once you intentionally look at the publications you read that have the same names over and over, that'll give you a lead. I also have had a lot of luck with like nonprofits and that may have a newsletter or they have white papers they need edited. Obviously, that's not journalistic work. But yeah, that's how I'd answer that.