Hello hello. Oh, hold on, hold on. Okay, sorry, that was like the, what do you call it? The volume from my computer because I can hear you on your end.
So strange. It's so weird. Like, now I'm looking in, I even went to the settings in my computer, and it looks fine in the settings. But when I click on the bottom right hand corner, it says that it's muted, and I can't unmute it. So I have no idea what the fuck is going on with that
sort of way we sleep. We did some science, you know, on the phone now.
Can I just tell you that it is really fucking hysterical that my ideas come to me in the form that they require any kind of technological capabilities, because I am absolutely horrible at anything requiring any sort of technological prowess. Thank you for helping me, you know, despite my limitations.
Oh, no, you're good. But ya know, I'm glad you came up with the phone idea. Because I was like, I don't know what I did. I feel like the last time I use Zoom was like, back in the pandemic era. And like, like, I, when I downloaded zoom, it was like, we have a new update for your computer. I don't even think I've used zoom on this computer yet.
Well, this is so is that I'm trying to like, since there's so many people who I'm like, so excited about that have said, Yes, I'm realizing that like, trying to convey information effectively, without having to say it at seven times, makes it more efficient, if I just like, record it when I'm speaking to one person and then share it with fall. So that's why I was thinking it would be good to, you know, do the screen recording. So that way, I can like, share it. And if people want to watch it, they can, you know,
gotcha, ya know, it's actually a really effective way to share info. There's actually a different grant that I'm applying for. And they had Oh, Zoom meeting, like it's a trans surgery grant. And so they have like, Zoom meetings to help people go over, like how to apply. And then for their smart. Yeah, so if anyone has, they can just answer them all at once. And then they recorded the last zoom session they had and posted it on their website for anyone that couldn't attend.
See, that is that is how the grant process should be. Because for so many people, and that's why I'm being so upfront about like, this, what my process and doing this one, because I find that like the grant process is so good CCAPs number one, I've heard from people like artists and stuff that they have spent up to 20 hours for a single grants, a lot of them have application fees, or they require that you have to have like a master's to apply or even a bachelor's, then they they give you your results, you know, if you got accepted or not, they don't give you any feedback as to why they don't give you any feedback as to even you know how they decided or any accountability. And then you're kind of left, you know, to flounder. And it's almost like a full time job even to apply for a single ones, let alone multiple ones. And then in terms of when the money even gets released, released. So often it isn't even for like a year out. And even then it's only in partial increments. And it's just not at all like facilitated to timely projects, you know. Yeah, I think it's amazing. I think it's amazing there being that open.
Oh, ya know, I mean, like, it's actually I don't know, if you saw the creators who did it. There's two really popular trans tech talkers, who untranslated visibility this year, ended up doing a 24 or 48 hour long livestream, raising money for this organization that gives out grants for people to get surgery. I think they raised over like $10 million.
That's insane
amount of money. And so it's the same organization called point of pride. And so I was going to send in a little grant application before the deadline is the end of this month, because I was hoping to get surgery next year.
Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's wonderful. So I hope you get it. Oh, me too. Yeah.
Because like the health insurance I got, I'm going to have for next year is going to have like a deductible. So even if it's like, mostly covered, I'm still gonna have to cover like $4,000 worth.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And how much is the grant?
Typically, they do amounts around 10 to 15,000. On their website, they said they usually cover 75 to 80, like 90% of the total cost of the surgery, especially for folks that aren't on insurance, or instead are in situations where they can't get insurance. Like if you're undocumented. You Yeah, I want to get surgery. I need to get surgery. So yeah. Yeah, it's that the applications kind of based on like, How privileged you are or not really lucky. And they have a really, but yeah, for how they do that. assays with
you sounding a little muffled? Oh,
sorry. I was just gonna say that they review people's assays without knowing who they are. So it's all anonymous.
Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, one thing that I wanted to ask you too, is that, you know, obviously, you're gonna need to raise, like, the difference and stuff. And I wanted to know, have you ever thought because like, you're such a guru. When it comes to, you know, social media. I remember being blown away when we spoke last year by how much you knew about, like, you know, staying with like, the updates to the algorithms and like, using all these different forms of social media, not to mention, like how epic your like cover art is like, it's just, it's fucking like, neon, goodness. Like, I feel like, it's like punk, but like, pop and then neon and futuristic. And just like excessive goodness. It's like what I hope if there is a heaven, I hope it looks like your cover art basically.
Honestly, that's sort of like what I was trying to go for.
I was like, Well, yes, you've reached you've reached your intended audience. There is at least 1%
Oh, my God. Like, social media goes. Yeah, I mean, like, it's not like, I don't know. I feel like things are starting to change, though. Already since the last time we spoke because we spoken what like, yeah.
We've spoken word ring. Oh, we spoke in spring of 2022. Oh,
so that was right after I went to South by Southwest, I think
I think yeah, yeah. No, fourth, Southwest. I think it was before even
I don't know what time of year.
Yeah, I don't remember, but it was a long time ago. Yeah.
And like, so much has changed since then. Like tick tock has changed so much. Like, tick tock got, like, a whole, like, soft feature now. And so like, I feel like it's a little bit more like, all these growing and then I'll watch a random video. That's like showing like, it's a normal tic tock. And then at the end of the video, a little pop up will happen. And it'll be like, do you like the black dresses these two people are wearing in this video shop now on tick tock shop. And I was expecting it. Like because at first like it would have like paid promotion, and like the bottom of the like video, but now I never know.
Right? It's weird. I mean, there is some really good opportunities like that because like that's something that I've because I'm now working with like some Atlanta dancers and stuff. And I was thinking to myself was like dude, if I partnered up, like if I partnered them up with like, different designers or even like sneaker stores and stuff, and especially like the ones who you know do like breaking so like, you know, when they're like balancing on like one arm and the shoes are in the air and it's gonna close up of them. And they're like, advertising the fucking like new sneaker that came in, like, and, and the dancers, like, you know, got a cut of like the number of shoes that were sold or something from that promotion like, that just seems like a given. So, if they posted that on Tik Tok, and there was a link to buy the shoes, like that just seems like a natural go to in terms of, you know, a potential way to utilize that kind of, you know, setting because like, every time I see, you know, all the things because you are constantly like on those platforms. So my question for you is, have you ever thought about doing like an ala carte situation so, like, let's say a dancer is about to like travel across the country to compete in a competition and wants to, you know, see if they can find any kind of like sponsorship opportunities before they go out there. So like, you help them like put together like an EP k, and then you know, you they pay you or like, they pay you like, but do it like piecemeal? You know, so like they split it out over time. And then you know, or you work out some kind of agreement so like, you know, if they land a deal and you get a cut of the commission, I don't know like I'm just throwing out ideas but like, I know that there's one product like production company, she stuck it oh my God, listen to him is amazing. This is so I just love to be able to brag about how I like talked and like did podcast with people or like featured them or worked together with in some capacity before they like fucking just took over the world. Because one of the other people I did a podcast with last year. Her name is Destiny Alia first of all, that name just screams success, right? So she was talking. She was just talking about the this production company that she was like starting right. And she was talking about like, services ala carte, so like, up and coming like artists and musicians specifically. So she was like, you know, she's like, for some people, we do this for some people we do that so that way, like artists only reach out for like things that they need at a time because not everybody like can pay to keep someone on the roster. Right? Right. So she's through the first ever fucking fan club Renaissance, like ever. She's through the first one. And she fucking appeared in vogue wearing this glorious headdress by this like vintage company. That's what the article was about. But one of the pictures they use in the fucking article, and they like called her out by name and saying that she like started the first club Renaissance. And she is going to be like a part of the ascent. And I know right and get this she is going to be in charge of this sunset Beyonce Renaissance dance party on the fucking beach. Oh
isn't that and and get this. One of the artists that I that I discovered from AppNexus designer on IG were basically they discover exactly what their name says they just cover up and coming designers. And I literally gasped when I found this, this designer like probably a year and a half ago. And her name is Rachel Ellen Bogan. And she makes these unreal, embroidered like bags that are basically like faces. And they look like old vintage Vogue covers. And so I reached out to her for the events that I threw in New York back in September. And she came to the event and she made this epic jacket and all this other shit. And she was just featured in Vogue. And the picture that they use in the article was taken at the event. And the person the photograph that they used was the photographer that I found outside of Soho House during and I asked I took a picture of him taking pictures of people. I sent it to him and I asked him if he wanted to show up into a photo gig three days from now, for 150 bucks. I paid him $50 On the spot hoped he would show up. And now his first ever published picture is in fucking Vogue
iconic like how, like that go down? I don't know.
No, but all of it is because of social media. Oh, no, literally. No. And so that's that's the thing that like I feel like you know, especially since you obviously have like stuff to raise money for like, I feel like even like little bits and tiny projects like here and there. Like even you helping, you know, like even me taking photos of dancers, and then you taking those photos and making epic like photo fliers. Not even flyers, but just the images for them to submit. So then like images being made are like Battle flyers, they have the sickest photo out of anyone on the entire fucking flyers that like makes them stand out from everybody fucking out. You know what I'm saying? Like, and they could pay X for each picture. Because the thing is, is that so much about dance culture is all about lore as well as like how good you are, you know?
Yeah, I feel like that's kind of the same in music as well, like, yeah, they kind of want to know that come up a story. They want to know about, like, where you started, what's the passion behind the, I guess in the dance, meaning you if you like, the dancing, but for us, it could be like, what on earth got you to sit around for hours? On a computer or making music or whatever?
Yeah, well, with dancers. It's like, Who inspired you? You know, like, what dance styles do you do? Who have you trained over? Who inspired you? Like what music you know, what moves are just like, the thing about that's so interesting about street dance in particular, is that like, certain styles are actually representative or like, usually from a specific geographic area. So like, you can literally like watch some dance styles and like, you know, where they battled. Because usually, in order to even get permission to like dance a specific style, like you have to almost be granted that permission from somebody within that culture, which is so fascinating to me.
It's a thing.
Yeah, it's totally a thing. And it's so interesting. So like, basically, I don't know, like, I'm just looking at like a cross pollination of even within, you know, the people that I've made stuff with, like to see how many different like side projects and quests can come from it, you know, because it's so interesting to see like, and I just realized this actually like the other day that in a way, since my, the app that we discussed a year and a half ago, obey when we talk about when we talk about how things have changed since the last time we spoke. Since then, I was in a psych ward for suicidal depression. And after I got released from the hospital, my sneakers, a business partner used that opportunity to use the words that I said, when I was suicidal, as my resignation from the company, and wrestled control of the company away from me. And basically, I came up with a completely new idea for an app. But as I'm working on it now, like, obviously, my focus is the archival part. But I'm realizing that like, as I'm connecting the people together, I'm actually doing what the app was supposed to do. But I'm no longer trying to make the app connection. I'm just trying to save what everybody makes once I've connected them. And I'm saving that so you guys all make the money from it. All I'm trying to do is to pay, like keep the website up to keep the transcription software, you know, the obsidian the otter AI the tape a call the otter AI, you know, just pay for those. Because I'm using this as like a basically like a economic experience experiment to like show, what can happen when the same amount of money is like held in the hands of many instead of a few. You No? Love that. Yeah, because I feel like everything that we've ever been told about how to do business and how to encourage economic growth has been a big fucking lie. That leaves that leaves the power in the same hands as people who've been fucking up the world. And it's been an old boys club, and I think that it needs to fucking burn to the ground. And so and also, the way that we're doing it is going to be by creating beauty and adding to the world instead of destroying it and tearing people apart. So I just think it's, you know, it's like anarchy but with art. So, art archy I know, right? It's a little awkward. You can't can try to just put into a cutesy I did try but it was not. Yeah. Yeah, did and it just, it wasn't a cute look, either of us. Yeah, yeah. So So basically, that's, that's one of the things I wanted to reach out to you about is because as I make this proposal, I'm also going to be like, pitching things that like as a whole, because like, that's the reason why I even did that, you know, broadcast channel, because like, I don't want to be inundating y'all with like, you know, sending in frivolous, so inefficient to send Bill thing to every single person every single time, you know. And so it's one of those things where it's like people can reach out when they want to, but after talking to someone today, I think I'm actually going to do like a sub stack so that way I can like, put information like in one place so people can like, reach out to it, you know if and when they're ready. Because, you know, there are different combinations of projects that can happen. Like, for instance, you helping people with their flights. For instance, you know, another person helping people do interviews, you know, me helping people with photo photoshoots, you know, that kind of stuff. So, basically people can indicate like, if they're interested because like, if, if more than, like, 15 people in Atlanta, say that they want to do interviews and have photoshoots, then I can justify, you know, figuring out a way for me and for the, you know, journalist to get to Atlanta at some point to do those, you know what I'm saying?
Gotcha. Hello.
Hello. Yeah, sorry. Yes, that's what I said, I
hear what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah. So that's basically what I'm trying to do. Because when I submit the proposal, it's going to be like, this is, you know, this is what this single grant like, obviously, the grant, it's not going to pay for all of it. But the process of applying for this grant is that this is all this is just the beginning of what even applying for this grant could open up. Because the fact that there's already 87 People who've indicated interest from like four countries and eight states, and even if this, I don't get this grant, and even if my city doesn't want to do this, like, it is a fucking idea, there is interest. And this will be a boon for whoever decides that they want to fucking get behind this. It'll be like a fucking marketing dream, like a fucking marketing, wet dream. So like, do you want to be a part of it or not? Because it's in terms. No, seriously, like, it'll make you look so good. Just even be a part of it. And you don't even necessarily have to give us dollars. Like, let's say, your hotel chain, just give us points. So we can get hotel rooms for free. If you are a individual, and you don't have dollars to give, but you have, you know, airline miles, and you like a particular dancer, you can actually donate those points to get a dancer to the event. If you are a business, and you can't give us dollars, or you could donate a couple of your specific product, if you are a charity, and you can't give money, but you want to have a table at our event. You know what I mean? Like there's so many ways, like if you're an individual, and again, you can't give money, but you have old art supplies, or maybe broken crayons and you feel bad throwing them out, you can bring them and give it as a swap. I love Right? Like my goal is for every single person who leaves like for there to be nothing left for people to bring a bunch of shit for people to take a bunch of shit. And for everybody to like, clean it and leave it better than it was when we got there. And for it to just be the thing where like people come they learn. They see, they wonder and then they leave and their bellies are full and everybody's happy. And they're like, Did that really happen. And then when they wake up, and the next days and weeks to follow, they keep seeing new shit, new pictures, new video, and they get to be reminded that that actually did fucking exist, that happens and you get to relearn and get to see the parts you didn't see because you were in another section. And it's just this joyous thing that gets to live on and, and infamy forever. And maybe it might even grow because the people continue to do additional lessons going forward.
100% I live for it.
Right? And then for you, maybe you can even find some people who want to take lessons from you to help their business. And they can just hire you when they need like piecemeal projects and then word of mouth goes around. And then before you know it, you have a full calendar of projects where you can pick and choose let's see skew.
Literally. Yeah, because that's definitely one of my areas. Like, kind of that kind of vision stuff. But ya know, I love what
you're saying. I was just saying. Hold on a second. I was just saying, um, what do you what do you imagine
as far as what I would be contributing?
Yeah, like what do you what do you imagine? I
mean, honestly, I do think I'm really like I like your example of of like, if a business or something. We're like trying to get started with something. But honestly, I feel like my strength really just lies in like Coming up with a vision for our project and helping people to like fully realize something. I've spent a lot. Oh, yeah, I guess. So. I mean, it started back when I used to do drag, like with whenever I would help someone come up with their name, or help someone to like figure out an outfit or an aesthetic. But then it's sort of one of the other artistic areas as well. I'm actually tonight about to go help someone work on their IEP is going to sit there and listen to you like you think about doing this day. So I guess consulting on projects is definitely a skill of mine. And then I don't know if I've also told you that I'm actually also a student right now. So yeah, technically, I'm a business major, but I'm thinking of switching to being a broadcasting major.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, I'm in my, almost towards the end of the semester here. I've been doing really well, this semester. It's been very lovely. I'm about to finish my Associate's degree. So that's going to be time. And then I'm going to transfer next fall to the four year university and then finish out and hopefully get that broadcasting degree. And I was really, because it's under like the communications and like journalism department. And so I really kind of wanted to take the major with an emphasis on like digital media and live streaming, and these types of things, so that I can really become an expert in that field. Because it's one thing to have like tips and tricks that I've picked up along the way as it relates to like social media and tick tock, but I would have a literal degree for it.
That would be amazing, too, because one aspect that I definitely want to incorporate into the festival is to livestream the event itself. So and then incorporate so basically live stream different parts of the festival because it's a huge space. I don't know if you saw the drone video of it.
With us, I said I remember it vaguely.
Yeah, so basically, I want to have like each section, like live streamed and then of course, I want to take all of the footage and then make like a you know, like a master broadcast as well to then be able to be able to replay for like $1 of viewing or something like that. So more you could buy like an unlimited lifetime review of it. So you know, having your knowledge about how to actually pull that off. Without you know, technical snafu shoes, Allah, you know, Beyonce and Diana Ross when she came out on her birthday. And like the mics were out. I'd like Kendrick Lamar to I'd like to know what is happening.
I've gotten a pretty big live stream before actually, back when it was like live stream shows during the pandemic. Fighting quite a few when I was living in Brooklyn. And I like just for example, one of the things that I would suggest is just use like hard Ethernet cable instead of relying on Wi Fi for the stream. Because whenever we would start the stream, the Wi Fi would always cut in and out. And it would be like questionable. And then of course the viewers will be frustrated because it was like, not great quality. Basically, unless you have like one of those super expensive like news trucks that have like the mass of little like satellite discs on it, you're not going to have good wireless connection. At least to my knowledge. I mean, it's one thing when you're doing like a tick tock live stream off the phone. But if you're trying to like coordinate between different camera angles, it can be done well no,
no, I was thinking of, you know, the initial one would just be almost like a twitch livestream. So it just be like a dedicated, you know, like, not exactly, because like obviously like I'm trying to do this like on as little of a budget as possible. Like I'm being realistic. Like, you know, I'm not
you can literally just do a single Twitch stream off of OBS. And then you could do some iPhone camera. Like super easy. Yeah.
Yeah, I just, you know, I'm basically just, you know, of course, it would be amazing if like somebody could offer to help with different things, but, you know, I'm just trying to be realistic about what will actually be To pull off, you know, so it's good to have dreams, but it's also good to be realistic.
Maybe it feels like maybe later. But yeah, the first situation, I do think that a nice little live stream would be very lovely. Yeah, yeah. But ya know, and, you know, like, you can also like, another thought that just came to mind as well, is like making sure that you come up with like, things that unify people online, while they're at the event, maybe something along the lines of like, QR code, or like a hashtag, that's, of course, something you could do. And that would be lovely. And that way you can get people to like, help generate content, the thing? Well,
and the thing too, is that, you know, one of the one of the dancers who will be at the sense, first of all, listen, how fucking awesome this is, when we talk about like, how, you know, social can be like, community building. So I met him a number of times over the years when I was in Atlanta. And just this last time, when I was there last month, there were a bunch of people that I didn't know from the photos I took, and he offered to, like, help me like, you know, he offered to help me identify them. He named for key to people that I didn't previously know. How fucking insane is that? Wow. Right. And he also does, like, what what are called, like party dances, so like, you know, Tiktok dances and shit like that. So we could even have him, like choreograph one, like leading up to the event, and then doing like a mash, you know, like, you know, kind of Flashdance, like vibe of it, like and have that maybe see those cells, you know, because like, you know, there's like this giant like grassy knoll area. So like we could, there's a bunch of things. Also, I'm going to be having like both a virtual and physical directory where there's QR codes next to each person, and organized by different categories. So that way, like, if you're trying to remember who this dancer was, there's going to be like a schedule of who performed like throughout the day. And then you can go back and find them again, or if you're looking for an artist, because you want to buy some of their work or holiday guide or something, you can find
it. I love it. Of course.
Yeah, so basically, I'm going to use like, every little idea, you know, so like, anything that you have in mind that you want to test out that, like, is inexpensive, or even even better free, like, I am open to it, you know, and we can also like, if there's a bunch of ideas, I can throw them up, and everybody who's participating can like vote on it, and then we can come to decisions that way too. Because I I, like, I am just trying to help inspire people to think in different ways, because by no means, am I suggesting that, like, all of my ideas are good, fuck now, some of them are terrible, you know, but I'm just, I'm just trying to, like be like, very, I don't know, like, kind of, like, try to get over this idea that ideas have to be perfect before they're shared. Because I think it's more important to like, just get them out there. Because somebody might be able to point out something that like you're not seeing, or they might see you some fucking time, you know, because they'll be like, Oh, wait, don't do that. I did it. And this happened, you know? Right.
And like, I mean, I guess, as far as like, this sort of made me think of one thing that I put on, helped to put on a few years ago. A few years ago, I did a friend's Art Night festival thing that had like performances, it had an open mic component and had visual artists, it took place in an LGBT community center. So it's kind of reminding me of sort of the vibe of this sort of amalgamation of things that you're sort of creating with this event. Yeah. So one of the aspects about it that I really liked, was that there was sort of like, different speeds of things going on. Like not, not that there was like, a shit ton of things going on. But like, you upstairs, we might have like, the music and the DJ and the performances and the dancers kind of side. But then maybe for folks that are like more visual art inclined, yeah, an area that's sort of like focusing on like, maybe some sort of crafting or like some sort of narrative project. Or you can tell like, something else that comes to mind is like, maybe you could have a sculpture that has like a collaborative thing. Not everyone can draw on the sculpture. I don't know. Like, some sort of collaborative community art piece, something that's like, and you could have a couple of like concepts like that floating around. But I would love to see something like that, along with Yeah, that's one component. Because I know you're sort of mentioning like, as well, the sort of like, what kind of reminded me was the mutual aid moment where you're sort of like, oh, I have these art supplies kind of thing. Like, let me share what I've got. Do
I want to do art, I want to do books, I want to do clothes. I want to do office supplies, I want to do backpacks. I want to do Tupperware containers. I want to do food, like, you know, canned goods and stuff. And then I also want to use Tupperware goods, then you have any food that's leftover from the vendors, so people can take it home. Gotta
love it. Yeah. So one thing to keep in mind, though, is to like be sure to like, not to be the one to like, say it, but like, look up at like study regulation and stuff. Because Oh, yeah, no, rules may be different in Florida. But I know in Houston, there have been people who are getting like tickets for handing out food.
Oh, that's why it's gonna all like when I submit the proposal for the grant. I'm submitting the same to the city for for a permit for the event itself. And time when I submit it as the permit, y'all know that I'm also going to be submitting that as a fucking marketing. Like saying, here's an entire marketing ploy for you for this park that everyone is pissed that you even built, because they spent all this fucking money and when they started the project, everybody was excited about it. But in the interim, Scientology bought up all of the land around it. The under shell companies. And so now nobody fucking wants to go to this park. Because it literally has like a moat of Scientology buildings around it.
Kind of major.
I know right? Okay. Penthouse.
Later water Beach is the fucking Scientology world's capital, like Overland Park. Right. The city is like shitting itself, I got to look up actually how much they spent on this park. But essentially, by when they when they first decided to do this park, it was like a big like, oh my gosh, this is going to revitalize downtown. It was a big to do. And then it basically like blew up in their faces. So this should be an absolute no brainer to have them do because basically, I would be doing everything for them. I would be finding the videographers, the photographers, the dancers, the performers like everything. You're saying.
It's a PR lovely moment for them. Basically.
Yes. Court? Yes.
Amazing. I love it. So like, there's incentive behind it as well. So I'm glad that I did bring up that point as well. But goodness Scientology play. So yeah, gorgeous. 84,000,080 4
million, they spent what? 84 million. And now everyone's picked it up.
And so people don't go to the park now like what's going on with that?
No. First of all, and literally just reopened. It only reopened in June, after seven years of designing construction, but more than 20 years of dreaming.
Oh my goodness. And then how recently was the surrounding land bought?
I don't remember it. There was like a huge investigative like whole thing that was like, basically, when they started this redevelopment seven years ago, and that investigative report came out less than two years ago.
Wow. So while they were already in the process of like constructing the park, it had already been down Damn, yeah. Wow.
Oh, and then another thing. And then another thing that happened on the same time there was another Public project that came on the that was like an amendment and listen to a fucking rocket. This was, Oh, we're gonna do this amazing community project, but we won't accept any bids that can only go to this one company.
Okay,
that's, that's how fucking corrupt Florida is. It's insane. Like, this is so I was talking about this earlier with clay, like the other podcast I did today. And I was like, this is the thing everybody protests like in their own way, you know, like some people are able to physically able to like participate in you know, in a walking protest, right? Other people protest in different ways because they're homebound, right? My protest is creating beautiful things that cannot be denied. And also creating beauty in places with people who the place where I live says that if you are such and such, and such, and such, you are this and to me, I'm going to create something so beautiful that nobody can fucking deny it and be like, Take this, we also influenced this much amount of capital into this area that otherwise would not have existed. If we didn't create this, this event, and funk you. You know what I mean? Just fuck you look. And that is inspired by fucking looking what Beyonce and Taylor did for the fucking economy. They literally saved the US economy from a recession. Now imagine if we have festivals like the one that we are dreaming up at this very moment. And if we did shit like that all around the country, and we got to celebrate and like have safe spaces for people. And we got to have like, fucking our own safety and not rely on the police because I already have DJ Silla, who already has her own private security firm. And they also have like insurance as well. And they've done events and festivals before. So we're gonna make sure that they are on our budget proposal, because we're not going to flip them around with Florida police. No.
Yeah. And like, Yeah, I like that. And, you know, I think as far as like, this goes not to be like the one eliciting a piece of advice. But like, it seems like you're already getting to the point with this, where you literally just have to send this perfect proposal that is going to, from the city perspective, be like, why wouldn't we want to do this.
And even if this doesn't want to do it, some other city will. And even if we don't get $1 of public money, we can cobble together money from even even if every single individual person only contributes one single dollar. If we like, if this idea speaks to as many people as I think it well, we could do this on private land with private money, and then share it and brought it like that we don't need anyone's permission to do it. We just need eyeballs.
Right. And I think that, again, it's just a matter of this is going to happen, whether or not the grant situation rolls in, and slash like the city wants that to happen. And so it might as well just be a thing that happens. Right? And I'm just sort of looking at it from my perspective as well is like, this is like, is this not a municipal grant? Like it's from the city? Or? No,
no. This is from a local nonprofit as local arts profit. So the requirement is that the that the individual applying has to be a Pinellas County resident, which I am. But I'm allowed to bring other artists on board.
Gotcha. So the funds are coming from a nonprofit. So even then, that's like an NGO in your area. That should be like, a no brainer from the city to like, want to be like, hey, look, this non governmental organization has this grant out and they want to have this event here. Why wouldn't we do it? Because that's, like, community building.
And the great thing is, too, so I have to, I have to partner with a local nonprofit as well to get you know, the tools to qualify for you even apply for the art grants. So in the past, I actually photograph there is a four day festival that happens annually. It's by the St. Petersburg International. It's called the St. Petersburg International Folk Festival. It's actually been around since like 1973 or 75, I believe. And only it's like the it's the oldest, independent most cultural organization in the United States, it's been featured. They've worked with the Library of Congress before. They've worked with UNESCO. And basically, they have art, they have food, they have wares from basically all of these different cultural groups like around the area. And it's insane. Like it's so cool. And I photographs back in 2021. Through VolunteerMatch, I find different events. And I basically write them and volunteer to photograph the events. So I've done I've done it, both in New York and in Florida. So I've done like, the ACE walk in New York, I've done the PCOS walk here in Tampa at the buck stadium, I've done. I've done the St. Petersburg International Folk Festival. So basically, I was three out of the four days. And so I have like, literally like 1000 pictures from across the three days. And the thing is, though, is that they're not necessarily like as technologically like up to date, like their website hasn't hasn't even been updated from 2021. And none of the photos that I took, wherever you which, you know, was kind of disappointing as somebody who took three days in like, really hot weather, you know, take the photos, like, it was kind of a bummer. And so partnering with them would be amazing, because, you know, being able to like celebrate culture, and different voices, and different dance styles and different food like, would be amazing, seems like it would go naturally hand in hand. Right. But also, I'm a member of the International Council of dance, and which is also a UNESCO organization. And one of the dancers, she is from the Dominican Republic, she's also a member of the International Council of dance. So I was already put on reaching out to them to either appear in their newsletter, or even like pitch to them about what I was building with the archives, because I'm focusing on dance first, because it's like, easier to follow the concept versus like, anything can be archived, you know, like, now I'm just doing it through individual stories and cities, etc, etc. So basically, I was going to pitch to them, like imagine that across 170 countries in 10,000 members, which is what they have, like, imagine us being able to create an archive for every single, you know, rehearsal performance, you know, dancer, you know, going forward, you know, like creating these archival processes that you guys can apply, forever going forward. And
I was gonna point it out well, for dance as an art form. As far as like, it relates to archiving, that art form in particular, I feel like it's one of the most like not like, because of course, you can film things easily. But it's not like you can go on to a Spotify or an Apple Music of dance styles and just be like, I'm gonna put this on shuffle and see what dance style I've come up with, you actually have to like, admit that?
Yes, and that is why are you familiar with the fact that Apple has to make an entirely separate algorithm for classical music? Yeah, because it's the exact same principle because the exact same piece of music can have multiple people performing it. And sometimes even the same person performing it. Like sometimes it's in the studio, like on a recorded album versus a live performance. And even if it's a live performance, they might be different ones, like over time. So applying that kind of concept of organization, to the files that we have, over time, would be so fascinating to see, like, you know, who you battle over time, which cities have the most like dancers who win a battle there, they end up earning more in their careers going later. Like there's so many potential like opportunities for gathering data and metrics to put the power into the hands of like an we're just saying dancers in this example but like, it can be for any creative because like organism or you know people like the the girls behind fuck you pay me we're literally creators can like sign up for it, pay a membership, and then get to like, have a Yelp for the actual companies themselves. So they can see the prior contract details for other people. What the terms were what they got, in return how those people were to work with. excetera like, puts the power into the hands of the people who are making the fucking shit. It shouldn't be that complicated. Like, let's get rid of the gatekeeping let's give the money to the people boohoo make the shed in the first place. Because if all of us banded together and decided to leave all of these bullshit systems, all of their billions of dollars would flitter the fuck away,
literally, because I feel like honestly, like, as I'm literally in a business class right now. And I remember going over the section on like management and like, owners of companies and entrepreneurs, and all I could think about in class is like, this is literally just one big game of who can siphon the most out of the general populace with their, like, control.
Not Do you realize, do you realize like, they are so short minded, because they don't if they truly were actually smart, if they were really as smart as they think that they are, just like, if they actually thought that their dicks were big. But if they have realized and lightly like Chrome as an idea, there is so much more money that could be made, if you actually hedge bets on what the future growth could be, by giving people the tools that they needed to make whatever the fuck that they had ideas for, and just take equity of their future projects, and adjust those terms on a per project basis. And then you would both make so much more fuck tons of money, because of the fact that like, if somebody doesn't have to worry about their housing, their food, their safety, their whatever the fuck the things that they are able to do when they don't have to fucking worry about keeping the lights on if they're safe. Like, the world.
Like, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, right? Like, that's what you're talking about, too, because like, ideas are kind of becoming capital and the way that the world is changing, right? Like, things are more automated, it's the ideas that are the resource. And it's a statistics game, it's a numbers game, if you have a lot of people with a lot of ideas, that are able to actually have those ideas. And think about them instead of worrying about, again, like you said, keeping the lights on, that's actually better for humanity in general, when it comes to solving problems, like issues related to climate disaster, and solving those kinds of problems that we have coming up. Because if everyone's just struggling to survive, maybe that person, one person who's not struggling to survive, I don't know, maybe the wrong people are struggling to survive. I don't know it's a numbers game, right? Yeah.
But the thing is, is that the people who have the time, space and resources to actually be able to like, you know, have the room to make ideas. Some of them are coming from the same spaces. They're coming from Stanford, they're coming from at MIT, they're coming from Caltech, they all have Patagonia vests, that they bust out, when it's just below 60 degrees, they all are being indoctrinated to think the fucking same, they approach, you know, problems to the same metrics, they all have the same life experiences. So what does that mean, they all approach problems the same fucking way. They all think that things are what should be considered. And when you have people who have different life experiences, they have different things to draw from, they have different points of consideration. They even have different cultural norms in terms of like how information is processed and conveyed. And like, even structures of like, language, and, you know, even like how letters are written, whether it's more, you know, like structured lines, or flowy, you know, like, all of those things impact how a brain function, so why not try to figure out a way to make it as seamless as possible to get as many different kinds of minds into the same room to all focus on either the same topic, or seeing problems, and have almost like a simultaneous conversation about the same thing, but with all of these different points of view, and see what fucking happens. And I guarantee you that no one will be able to predict the outcome, but that it will be better than what anybody else would ever be able to come up with, individually and far less time.
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And also, again, just referencing the diversity because when you're talking about Honestly, these kind of like, factories that you sort of set up with the example about people from these top named universities and centers of study that are widely agreed upon to be somewhat elite, right? Like not only elite but but also economically, only for the people who have advantages, typically, right? You're getting the same sorts of folks, same sorts of ideas. And by creating this diversity, you're also getting a diversity of ideas that you just won't get from those places. So any major play?
Yeah, yeah. So all of those are like the big ideas, but I think that, you know, because for so many of the people that I'm working with, I think it's one of those things where I'm very much trying to figure out how to best go about this. So I feel like that is why I'm not making anybody any promises. And I'm like, This is what I'm trying to do. And this is how I'm trying to get there. If you have any recommendations, let me know. But at the very least, I'll take some really good pictures of you. And if you stick around, then I can definitely promise you some videos. And if you still stick her out, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, you'll still get some shit out of it, you know, like, even if the promise thing doesn't really end up happening, you know, on,
like, the vision of like, something that I think can definitely be widely agreed on that you're sort of referencing here. That's definitely like a really important aspect of any bringing together of a group of people, right, like, what is the unified vision? And like, also, you said, you can't really plan for the outcome. And, you know, as you're planning this, like, I think you're really correct, in assuming that it should really be about, like, just getting the people together, you know?
Right. Right. Because, like I said, you know, in the example, you know, of everybody, in, you know, speaking literally different languages, there's also the same concept of people working on the same issue, but using, you know, different jargon and across industries, and therefore, you know, we're all working on the same issue, but in different ways. And so, if we could get people across, you know, boundaries into the same place to have the same conversations, then maybe we could all gain a little bit of traction, because, you know, with the festival itself, you know, obviously, the prevailing context is raising funds for mental health, you know, and for me personally, if it wasn't for art, I would not, I would, I would not sign the soil, you know, because it has been, quite literally advisor focus is on dance for me is because I had interacted with the algorithm so much with dance content, that during the times when I was the most depressed because ever since my manic break in 2017, where basically I was assaulted by the NYPD. After I had walked barefoot from the Bronx to Phillip Island, there was a music festival nearby. The cops thought I was on drugs, he assaulted me. My TK levels when I was taken to the hospital is supposed to be like, under 155. Mine was over 1000 If it's over, I don't know what about but you can actually have renal failure, then I was held down and forcibly injected with what they call booty juice, like how doll before they took a medical history. Basically, just like really fucked up shit that happened. So basically, you know, I've been in a very severe depression, since I've tried a bunch of shifts, including 77 rounds of ECP, which is electric shock therapy, which you're not going to present themselves. And I had 77 over the course of 10 months. And my psychiatrist made 200 grand off of me, and I have no long term for May of 2019, because of him. So basically, during times that I've been depressed, I would be laying in bed, and I would prop my phone up against my teddy bear my dogs, my puppy, actually, as a puppy dog, stuffed animal. And I could just prop it on his side, you know, because I am a side sleeper. And I would keep it open because I wouldn't even have to like press the button to skip. And I would basically just be watching like all of these dancers that I had been following, you know, for years and photographed a lot of them. And in the moments that like, you know, I would marvel at like a move or sometimes even muster up the energy to like, press the back button to watch it again. Like I probably why I'm still here, you know. So there's also one of the charities that I want to help fundraise for also, in addition to this is the charity called move with kindness that was started by the widow of the dancer, Steven Twitch boss, who he analyzed himself last year. And he was an inspiration for a lot of dancers in the community, and basically the charities and is to help teach kindness as well as like how dance can help with mental health. Because a lot of people don't talk, you know. And so now, people are actually starting to have the conversation because of, you know, what has happened, what happened to him. And, you know, there are a number of dancers actually, like, even made the like art dance films about the topic of therapy, which is insane, like, it's just wild, to see the change, like, even so, about how we discussed therapy and stuff, and I really feel like, for a lot of people dance could be like, a way of movement therapy, like, that's why they call the movement directors now instead of just choreographer, because there's such a story, be express and like, truly like working out, you know, how they say the body keeps score. I also feel like movement can actually do more than talking sometimes.
Yeah, definitely. I definitely. dramas and dance myself, actually.
Oh, really, it looks more.
Um, I did a bit of modern and contemporary when I was in high school. I took like, classes for it and stuff. And then when I did drug, I did some sort of like dance heavy stuff. Yeah, I also like had a moment where I was like, sort of doing some Kiki balls with like ballroom and voguing but, ya know, it was really cute. But I feel like if I were to want to start voting again, I would need to, like engage with the community and like, start coming to things, and I just haven't had the time. So I haven't been really dancing. But well, yeah, you ever,
ever want to, you know, have a, you know, like, almost like a poster on your wall person to inspire you to go that route, you have to watch silk, aka Robert J. Mason. Because he does. Like he does both contemporary, but also voguing as well. And it's just just a bit. First of all, he's like six feet tall. And then just like the longest limbs you've ever seen in your life, and then like, and then he wears heels when he votes sometimes too. So you're just like looking up like into, into the abyss, and it's just really fun to watch him perform. But like, one thing I was gonna say to that's so that's so amazing about like, the dancers and stuff is that, you know, so many of them have said that they're going to teach like a 15 minute class. And so that's something that's going to be so fun about it too, is that we're going to record that. And all of those are going to be available online. So like, you know, the event and those classes can live on so like kids can be introduced, like who knows, kids may be virtual. So in things that they're never exposed to, you know, like, sometimes all you need to do is see something to know that. And like your whole world gets opened up. Right?
Not 100% true, because that's sort of how I got started as a musician. Because I lit a genre of music that I we discussed the first time we spoke, like hyper pop, and then sort of like Zondra. I saw it live for the first time on a whim. Because Charlie FCX was performing at South by Southwest in 2016 2017. I don't remember what year it was. It was one of those. And she brought out this DJ who ended up becoming one of my favorite artists. I mean, Sophie, and he played this like really fucking weird song. It was like just distortion sounds. And I was like this music. And then fast forward like a year later, and like, it's all I'm listening to. And beyond that, I'm also like, even fast forward a few more years later, I'm like, one of the artists in the genre.
So this is the thing. I'm so glad that we're talking about this right now because Sorry, I just took a hit So, okay, so I think we talked about this before, but basically I am, I was very seriously curious as to whether or not you know, I've been having things happen lately where I'm like, I'm having both sensory issues as well as like, extreme, like miscommunications with other people. I had a series of like three really intense interactions with with different people, like across the span of like three weeks. And I was like, oh my god, like, am I artistic, like what the fuck is going on? And also like very intense sensory disturbances, like sound, taste, touch, etc. And so basically, sound and also light has been very, like perceptual disturbances, all that jazz. And one thing that I've noticed as well, is I'm constantly trying to assess like, am I disassociating? You know, am I in a hypomanic state? Or am I just in a creative and creative state? And I'm actually like, jamming out idea, you know, what can I do to keep it? So I have like a whole Epsom salt bath ritual that I have. But I've noticed that one thing that really a lot is if I find certain songs, and a lot of them are like dance buffs, like remixes. And so I'm kind of curious to see like, what the beats per minute, or whatever the beats per something, are, because it feels like the more intense the frequency, it feels like, for some reason, the more intense the frequency, the more steady my mind works, because it's like, it matches how intense My thoughts are. And then it almost like helps me be able to focus. Does that make any sense at
all? So I actually have a couple points on this. So I actually have a friend who's a music therapist, I don't know, I'm not an expert. I've spoken to her a lot. But this is that area, right? Like, there's a couple of aspects personally, as a musician, that I can sort of point out, that I can also point out, so BPM definitely is a factor. But I think like frequency, as well as, like, the content or the emotion of the song are really important to me, as well as it relates to like music that like, helps me on a bad day. Because I think as listeners of music, unless you're like going to listen to a DJ, you are your own prescriber of what you're listening to, right. Like you're sort of the one sifting through this honestly, Endless Pool of sounds and songs that have been arranged in certain ways together, and looking for the things that align with you. And one of the things that I do actually, which is kind of maybe not the safest activity, but like, it's pretty safe. But I think it's kind of daring is I'll go through SoundCloud and specifically look for songs that are like a euro. Like sometimes I can find some real gems. I love it's like spelunking.
Yeah, I love that. I love that. Well, the thing that's actually also very strange. And I would love to maybe one day, like, I don't know how expensive a session with your music therapist friend is. But one thing that I find actually fascinating is that again, with my memory loss, like, I'm telling you, no childhood memories, nothing I've ever learned in school or at any job, etc. Boss, is that for some reason? Even like when I'm listening, like I found an old iPod, and I actually like bought a cable and shit for it. So I started listening, like because I was like, oh my god, like, holy shit. Let's see what music is on this right? And I was listening. And I knew the lyrics to the songs, even though I was technically hearing them for the first time. And if someone understood, like, explain what the fuck that means. It's so fast. And when I hear it, I remember the Lyric, but I don't have the memory of when I first heard the song, or what that song means to me. And why I put it on the iPod only has eight Meg's like eight megabytes on it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, What the actual fuck? Like, why does it remember the lyrics? But not the circle?
Girl The brain does wild thing.
I know. It's fast. So fascinating. It's so fascinating how much we don't know about and since you're on that feature on that future five gmit let me even get nerdier with. So part of the proposal, I have been talking to the sculptor friend of mine about this idea for fucking years. Basically, you need to look up his sculptures, like the sense that we hang up, or if your computer is nearby, look it up right now. Peters. Okay, okay, if you're on website with Jason P, art, all one word.com Those things that that basically looks like the Gettys in like spaghetti in space with zero gravity, puking and of white paint buckets and scaffolding that have LED lights that are braided and put throughout them. And I have an idea for basically brain wearables to be connected to have their frequency, so like beta, alpha theta, all that shit. And each of those frequencies have a different color that is then graded with LED lights through a paint bucket. And that way you can you can see, like, if the dances are ever on the same frequency on the same wavelength. We can even do like the two or like people in the audience and shit. You know, like, how fun would that be? That would be Borgia. So that's actually one of the things I'm pitching but of course, his sculpture is going to be insanely more expensive, you know, but like, I'm still going to pitch it, because like, that's the thing that that Clearwater area, it doesn't have, like, it doesn't have the Empire State Building, it doesn't even have the things like in you know, Tampa, it doesn't have, you know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't have the Seminole identifying thing. And so this might be that for them, you know, and I was thinking like to get gnarly with it, like, have it floating, like in the intercoastal. Because then it would be like reflecting on the water, and it would look different at times of day and shit. Like, come on, How amazing would that be? I know, right? Like, I don't even know where these ideas are coming from. But it's, and also, it would allow us to explore the concept of how how a single voice can carry over water. And also like drummers, and how drums used to be how people would convey like messages of like, approaching, like incoming forces and shit. Because we're also going to have at least two different drummers who are in Unreal, I'm gonna send you their profile, like, my favorite videos of them. So and I'm also trying to get like marching bands and stuff to come to, because it also have like recordings of audio, across the water and at different points of the park to do like an experiment on sound, because I'm trying to like show how science can be fun.
I love it, I feel like this is the kind of love for I can't wait to look up these people.
Right. And like, I want to make like a whole fucking activity book, you know, we're like, their paper airplanes. But that, like, on one side is one. One Painter is painting. And on the other side is another person's paint painting, where you know, 111 company, from Somebody That I Used to Know, her, her husband started this company that are like, robot robotics for kids. Like one year, I got a four pack of these tiny little robots, and like gave them to people, and they fucking love them. And they were like, for eight for kids. Like, there were five years old, a little tiny fucking robot. How cool is that? You know? Like, no, it's just like, Curiosity is is all anybody needs, you know, and I just feel like, I just want to make it fun to learn, you know, like, whether it's art, whether it's dance, whether it's science, like, just sparked someone to want to learn something when they get home, you know? 100%
and I feel like this event speaks to that and hearing about all the other people who are involved from like, all these different walks of life and discipline. It's so stunning and gorgeous. And I'm just happy you thought of me for this.
Oh my gosh, of course. Of course I did. So. So basically, send me an updated bio, and picture and any niche you want included. So, you know, think of think of your profile because keep in mind, this is like a virtual directory. So remember how we talked about you know, how you designed your cover, and how you can help people, you know, make their images for their like Battle fliers or whatever, like, just kind of like pitch yourself. Like, how you want your perspective. You know? people just see you. Kind of. Okay, okay.
Perfect. I'm gonna pull that up now. Yeah, no, I have a current bio on my website. I'm probably going to edit that one. And I have a recent photo as well. So, yeah,
I definitely I definitely talked too much in this conversation, which I apologize for. And I do not have to go through the website and stuff. So we'll have to, I'll have to save that for another day.
Yeah, no, I'm ready. But yeah, no, I'm happy, we also finally got a second to speak because again, I've just been so like drowning in school. And like, I've also been like, on this whole other, like, shoot, like, I was literally like, performing as like a producer role and music video shoot that was happening here in Dallas. And that was kind of like, hanging over my head. So yeah, I started going.
I don't know what my finances will be, like, closer, because this doesn't even get announced until like the 22nd of January. So, you know, obviously, like, stuff that I have to do on my end, like, you know, the deadline to submit is the 15th. I don't want to wait until then, you know, so if you can get it to me by December 1. So it'd be amazing. But basically, you know, if and when it gets closer to this becoming a reality, I would love to, you know, pay you an hourly rate or whatever. It's like, have you helped me because what I learned from the last event that I threw is that is simply stupid for me to try to do everything myself, you know, like, why would I do that? When like, you have infinitely more experienced than I do in this? You know? Because like I was worrying about it, you know?
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm here for it. I'm sorry, I have a dry erase board. And I'm writing this deadline for myself that his bio bio class for Okay, got it. Okay. Sorry. I'm just like compiling that into like the smorgasbord of things that I'm doing.
Oh, my gosh, before I talk to you, I made a to do list myself.
Oh, my God. Yeah. So as far as you were mentioning, like, needing help with it. And that's definitely something that I'm going to be able to do like, pretty much starting once the grant application is due because semester for me, and pretty much on December 14. So that all of you like, a lot more available with more time? Because, yeah.
When I would love. Okay, well, what I would love your help with is the approach what I was thinking. So obviously, the grant proposal is like a virtual thing. And I know that it seems a little like retro, but I was thinking about putting together like a little physical like, object, where, instead of like, honestly, I do not have like a bank. But I was thinking about making three prototypes that fit the size of like, a, basically like a photo book style of things, except it's actual books where it's almost like field notes. So it's a combination of like, printed book, and then also almost like, hands made pages. So it looks like it's like, somebody's like notebook from the field, you know, like back in the day, like Charles Darwin on a mission kind of vibe. And it basically, like has information about like, the app that I'm building, you know, the idea for the festival. And then it says, like, you know, if you'd like to learn more about it, you know, contact us. And if you're not interested, could you please return it back to us because we're doing this on a shoestring budget, and then it has like a prepaid label to send it back. And so that way, it's like, number one, did anybody even ever open it, right? And then number two, a way to like, even find out like where or if we get feedback.
I love that idea. They're thinking of sending the physical objects to the people doing the grant.
No, no, not to them. By then we'll have already submitted the virtual copy. I'm talking about like, all of the different like VC firms and like private equity firms and shit. it and like, you know, like that, like people that I was thinking of like pass throw us money, you know, to have like their names associated with it, just to even see if they would be interested, and then use those offers to show like the public what these big timers think it's worth. So then to like, offer them to invest in it. So that way they get to have the equity and not these vultures.
Gotcha. So I'm putting that under grant, I'm writing this down. So, yes, I like that idea a lot. And then also, maybe you could also have, like, a QR code on the field notebooks that have a plain text version of all that information as well as a digital document. Because I feel like people in that environment, who are gonna be like, I love this field notebook. But then you've you're also going to have your people who are like, can you please just give me your regular document? Because they want to read it fast. And that's what they're used to. So if you give them right, and that could be really fun. And it wouldn't be that difficult to put that information into like a Google Doc or a Word doc.
Perfect. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, and I was thinking, you know, even within the book itself, like, it could have, you know, QR codes within it for like, the different dancers, the different artists pieces. So basically, it would almost be like a little Choose Your Own Adventure, you know, of like, it can be as, you know, profitable or as in depth as you'd like. Like, that's how the website is as well, like, it's, it's basically demonstrating, like, how I want the app to function, which is that it's like this little interconnected system. Are you familiar with obsidian?
I am not.
Okay, so basically, it was created as this medical note, software system where you could use back links to basically interconnect your notes. So like, if all the notes that you had taken about the heart, you could click on them, and then find all of the notes that you were taken about that, right. So basically, it's a way and it took me forever to even start it. And I'm still very much a novice at it. But I started it before as I was planning the event in New York. And it's pretty cool, because when I click on like the date of the event, it now has every single note that reference that date. So it makes this amazing visual. And then if there are other notes that connected between themselves, there's been a line between them. The more you mentioned, one particular link, it then gets bigger on the data visualization. So basically, what it does is it shows us like interconnecting web of information and how it all ties together. So like, I want to basically have the app itself, do that. So for instance, right now I'm focusing on dance. So like, basically, there will be one for dance itself, and then one for the different cities, and then specific dancers, and then styles of dance, and then each of them have their own little universes within that.
Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. I've seen data organized this way. That's awesome. Yeah, no. So yes, I was going to say though, we may have to wrap up here in a second because I actually have another call coming up here soon. Okay. I don't normally have calls. But for whatever reason, I got two scheduled on the same day.
We're booking busy. And one last thing that I do end on is that there are a few books that I would love to, I understand that you have concerns about, you know, sharing your address and stuff. But there are a few books that I would love to send you if you're open to it. I understand also if you don't have the time to read them, but I just feel like there's some of my favorite books. And they've really helped me in my creative journey. And a couple of them haven't even fully read yet. But I just feel like it would be really fun to like book club it. And also like, help it help us as we're doing this.
That would be lovely. Actually.
Oh my gosh, okay. So send me your mailing address. I have wanted to do a book club about like creative books, and creativity books like with someone's forever so you've just made my life Thank you.
Oh my god. No, actually, that's one of the books I was reading recently I was reading, read and Riot by um As the person who did Pussy Riot in Russia, and it was sort of like a book about activism and art, and then I also like another art making book that's kind of like the genre book that I've been in. Although recently, I've been reading a book called How fascism works because life and the current state of the world
one of the Emory being one of the books I'm reading, it was really hard to track down. So still, I'll see if I can get that one that one might be hard to find. So, but it's called, The revolution will not be funded. When I'm applying, you know, what's really funny is that it's like on my, my Goodreads list is like the inspiration for this. And yet, that's like, on my profile, like, on the website for the proposal, but like, Fuck it, yes, I will use your grant money to fund my own version of a revelation.
Well, yeah, I mean, like, it's all part of the same thing. You know, like, that's sort of one of the things I realized, especially after, like, going to, like, of course, protesting does have its function. But any sort of community building, where you're like, bringing people together for this kind of thing. Beautiful work. You know, like, I remember, like, some of the people that I've met in my life, have been at these types of events. And I would have never formed those connections had it not been for them. So it's like, it just has to be done. And also like the disappearance of third spaces, as well, I'm sure you're familiar, like, spaces to go hang out in person that aren't just white.
Which is why it was so genius that JC had his exhibition at a fucking library instead of a museum. So instead of the gatekeeping of a ticket and admission, it was open to anybody and my friends. The audio engineer, Kia, said that she had never seen that many people at the library. Literally. Oh, my gosh, they're amazing. Don't get me started. But like they even released Special Edition library cards of JC How smart is that? How many new people signed up for library cards? Do you think? So many? I know, I would love to see those numbers. Like how genius is that? Just brilliant from start to finish. And there's a whole virtual one. I'm saving that for when I'm not so focused on like, all this shit right now, because there's a deadline looming. But like, I just it makes me so happy that that shit is happening. And also, the fact that like, you know, Beyonce didn't have a strict NDA on socials, for everybody involved in the Renaissance tour. So we I mean, outside, everybody. stylists, hair, nails, you know, dancers, you know, fucking the designers who made the pieces, like, think talks about every single thing that was happening in reference to the tour. Like, it just became this cultural movement. And that's why she made fucking $3.1 billion, if I'm not mistaken, because she literally allowed people in on every single aspect of the experience. So even if you couldn't afford to be there, or you weren't physically capable of being there, because like, for me, because of how sensitive I am to sound and shit, like, there is no way that I would ever be able to be in a stadium with like, 50 50,000 Plus, people like that would never happen. So the fact that she has a movie that's coming out that I can see with like, you know, 150 people or less fan fucking tastic thank you so much for doing that. You will definitely have me spend least $150 Seeing your five times, you know?
No. Yeah. No,
I know. That's, that's the thing. It's so cool. That some people are smart enough to realize that like, by approaching how you can reach people, and share knowledge and experience, you can solidify, you know, loyalty, brand loyalty. I mean, because now, if you were not a Beyonce fan before, and now you are because of the whole Renaissance Cultural Revolution, like she has fans for fucking life now, aka money always going to be rolling in perpetuity. And saying, like, no question forever. And that's another example where like, it's just makes sense. Like, it just makes sense to give it all away and see what fucking happened. Because like, if this concept like does take off, we'll look at like, how much we spent to make this happen. And I guarantee you that what happens after it, it's going to be like, hundreds of times the value of what it took to make it happen, versus what happens afterwards. I just know it. Like I have no idea quizzically like No, no question in my mind about it whatsoever.
I love it because I kind of feel the same way, which is one of the reasons why I like made sure to like reschedule with you. So yeah, yeah.
Awesome. Okay, well, I'm sorry to keep you for so long HOLY SHIT an hour and a half. Oh,
no, it's okay. Yeah, I have another call. Because apparently I'm having someone found me on LinkedIn, and is wanting to be like a musician, manager. And I was like, I wouldn't mind. Okay.
Okay. I love it. Well, good luck.
I don't know what's gonna go on with it. But she's someone that you see a programmer. And she's taking a sabbatical break from programming to do music management, and she lives in my area. So listen,
listen, you want either a Virgo or a programmer to be a manager, because they will make sure that everyone's eyes is ticked off.
Literally, and then like, I don't know what's going on today. I just got like, a performance opportunity next Friday, like the Thanksgiving break hit. And it's just like, music, all this type
of stuff. Think I feel sometimes like this is why you always have to be like, prepped, ready and stretched to go, because should always just come to me. And you just have to be ready. Like to kind of catch it when it happens. You know, like, No, literally,
because like, I've been sitting here waiting for that opportunity for so long. Like to perform. Yeah, because like breaking into the local music scene. That's a whole other conversation. But yeah, I kind of had to, like, ask people to get on shows. But this is the first time that and they were like, do you want to do it? I heard from this person. And I was like,
oh, isn't that the best feeling? It is. It's the best? Yeah, oh,
my God never happened before.
No, it just be for the first time ever recently, too. And I was like, Oh my God. Like I literally freaked out. Yeah.
Iconic. But ya know, so I'm going to go Oh, my God. But I texted you my address. So if you wanted to, like do the moment, maybe just send me a send your life. With that. I said, maybe just send me a buck.
A buck? Well, the thing is, is that a lot of times, I will toggle between points in different books. So they'll
have like a shot of your home.
Yet, there's actually only three that I'm going to send you because what we're working on in terms of like the specificity between our portion together, I feel like these three will be a good. I feel like these will be a good starting point. We can always add later. But I don't want to make it complicated at this point. You know what I mean? Gotcha. Yeah. So you know what? If we ever do sawn con, one of the people who I would love to partner with is biblio.com. Because anytime you ever want to buy a fucking book that isn't brand new, I got a $198 textbook for $19 from them.
Love that.
I know. Right? So anyway, that's where I'm gonna look. Now I have your address. I will be sending it to you shortly. I'm so glad we had a chance to chat. I hope your meeting goes wonderfully. And send me your bio and that when you can. I
will thank you so much again for thinking of me What a stunning conversation even though I feel like it was mostly you like explaining the vision. And then me being like, no,
the vision. I I'm sorry. I'm sorry, we should do another conversation where I'm not babbling.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're good. But as far as like having another conversation, yes. But like don't apologize. It was important information that needed to be shared. So
yeah, and at least know you know what it is that I want to work with you on?
Yeah, 100% but, ya know, so I'm gonna take a little break here. I hope you have a good rest of your day. I have 10 minutes. So love that. Oh, shit. Okay.
