that that actually is an interesting story, just because I was one of these campus climbers, you know, my whole life was like, Julie. And so you know, I did a lot of stuff. And it's because it's not because of any reason other than I am just a really high extrovert. And so I get all my energy from being around people hearing their stories, it's never an imposition for somebody to come over and visit with me, it's actually kind of a gift. And so my outlet for that was just getting involved in a lot of stuff, you know, which probably built the network. So yeah, I went to college did a lot of stuff. And I honestly think that if I went to Podunk University in the middle of you know, wherever Montana, I would probably be just as rabid of a fan of my alma mater, I just think I'm an enthusiast about the place that I'm in. And so yeah, I mean, I just had a great college experience very involved on campus. And my greatest joy was just to go and visit and be and get activated, I wanted to make a difference. I think a lot of people in the nonprofit space like find themselves wanting to plug in, in a lot of different ways. And I always felt that need to want to plug in, and there were things that brought me more joy than others. But, you know, even this company alone, when we started this, even nine months ago, I was literally reaching out to people I have not talked to since college, but we may be a Facebook friend, or maybe we're LinkedIn, and just reconnecting and saying, Hey, you know, we have a great friendship, and you have this incredible network for wherever you are in the world. If you feel compelled to, like want to share this, this journey that we're on, please do so. And I was shocked at how many people actually responded, they were gracious in the way that they opened up their networks. And I just think that maybe the lesson here is that don't just go to college, don't just go to class, like this is the time in your life. Like to I hear these, you know, if you're a young professional right now, or you're a college student, like embrace the journey, and there's so many opportunities there, I will tell you that the way that I was able to plug in, as a student helped me immensely when I was a fundraiser or when I worked at Oklahoma State University's foundation as a marketer, because all of these big donors, I knew their kids, I knew I knew something about this student organization they were in because I was in it, or I knew this history, or you know, there's just so many endpoints. And so I think if you can walk through your life, thinking that everybody is a connection, and not everybody's going to necessarily be a great connection or a great person, but it's like, beat you. Anybody can collect people. And my husband would probably say that's not true, because he's an introvert, and he does not get his energy from being around people. And so I respect that. But yeah, I just, I just love my alma mater. And it gave me a great opportunity to get my footing and journalism and public relations. And so I did a lot of internships in college and I did a intern at a really big corporation. And I remember like, day three going this, these are not my people. This is not my jam. I did an agency one summer I worked at a PR and advertising agency and then I thought, this is really not my jam. So it's more of just like