Hey, how are you? Once again? Let me switch over to my headphones Okay, can you hear me?
Yes. Can you hear me?
I can
I uh, can you hear? Is there like a hum in the background? Because unfortunately, my neighbors not get the memo that I was recording podcast and there's somebody's like doing something electrical on the next street over.
Sorry a whole technical okay. I can't No i don't i don't really hear anything.
Okay, perfect. All right well I am hello again after a year and a half.
I know.
Time is time is just a construct right? exist so I was that I
said I can't believe that Thanksgiving in Mexico feels like it was just like summer.
It is no, it's wild. Like I I don't know, I just feel like time. It feels like it both has been so long and also so short at the same time. Yeah.
Um, as well, please give
me give me an update on everything that has happened since we last spoke. Because I really enjoyed watching your stories from afar. Like, I feel like such a lawyer. Like I think that I think that social media has turned me into the creepy like guy sitting in the cop chair. Watching everybody's story isn't like a social relationship with everyone.
Yeah, I feel I mean, I think that that's what they were going for when they when they designed it all. So we could all sit back and peek into each other's lives. Yeah, I actually listened to the one that we did. However long ago that was now. And so I guess let's see where to where to begin. I have been. Okay, so I know I talked about setting up a table at the Long Island's Home Show. Back in February of 20.
To 22 Yes. 22. Okay. So how much did it cost you again? It costs you 350? If I'm not mistaken, it
was almost $2,000 Oh, yeah, it was like 1900 and some change or something that
is so insane. No, it
really is crazy. And looking back on it now, I don't know if it was like the best investment but I will say the only the clients that I have, have done the most work for I got from that. Right
from sometimes. And sometimes all it takes is one person. It's the one person who allows you to get your foot in the door. Because all you need is one project to start building your portfolio. So if you then calculate it as like, well this expense helped make this happen. And then this happened. And then you know what I mean? Like this domino, made everything else happen, then that cost justifies it, you know?
100% And like, I could not be more grateful for the client that I have. Because they have been, they have been amazing. They, I mean, they knew going into it that I like I didn't have a ton of experience and it was still like a learning thing for me. And they have just been they've just been awesome. I mean, like the very first couple of days that I went to do work out on their property. They like had lunch for us in the fridge. They're like go outside, it's really hot. You know, take a break, go inside have lunch. Like we put some stuff for you.
Yes, like, free that. Like they saw you not as a means to an end but it's like people you know, like people like you like that's like you guys embarking on something together. Like as equal but not as subservient. You know? Yeah.
100%. And like, and I think that's kind of the thing is like people that are involved, or like people that are interested in this kind of work and like permaculture stuff are very community minded people, I think, and that building relationship is is one of the important factors or one of the port and one of the most important, you know, things about this that, like, makes it all work. So,
I mean, yeah, and the notion, I mean, I love the expression. And I think the illustration, like the visual, really helps people grasp the concept of like, you know, the people who plant the seeds for a tree, they'll never see fully grown, you know, because then you're like, Oh, my God, I get it, like, you know, because I don't, I mean, I don't even know enough to know how long it takes for redwoods to like, fully formed, like, how many hundreds of or 1000s I don't even fuck it, you know, but like, I even saw like a baby redwood, when I visited my brother a few years ago, and just the, I'll find you a picture, if you care to see that there's a picture of trying to hug it. I'm trying to, like, hug it. And you see, like, the size and the breadth of it. And it was just so humbling, you know, and it was just so gigantic, and scale. And then later, you know, now having that experience of just seeing what a baby one looks like. And then later seeing like pictures of like, the wildfires and like them, like broken, you know, with like, falling over. Understanding, since I seen it with my own eyes, like what that meant, it, like, impacted me so much more, isn't it as like a picture in a 2d form, you know, yeah. And so it's similar what you're talking about in the sense that, like, if people have actually like, touched sand, like, touch dirt, and built something, you know, like, garden themselves and grown something from soil, they'll appreciate it so much more than if they just buy stuff from a grocery store, and it's so far removed from the actual experience of growing something from the seed. Yeah.
100% Yeah. And that's, I think one of the great things about this is that it really does get us back, because we used to be so connected to our foods. And we're just not anymore. And I think it's really important thing that we we move back in that direction.
Right? So tell me about what you were planning on, you know, you wanted to do a talk or do a class, and I was so excited to hear like how you wanted to convey, you know, because the concepts of like permaculture, how are you going to translate that into a concept that like beginners can digest?
I think I think where I would start probably would be how you can like how people can get started in a, in a very small way, creating something in you know, wherever they have space. So it will probably just to break down the like, the basics of how we create like a guild, I know, I spoke about this last time we talked and so like, the guild is like the, the main supporting fruit tree, or the main fruit tree, and the supporting plants around it, that help it to grow. And so I think that probably what I would do would give a little like, breakdown about how it works and like, the idea behind it. And then so show people how simple it can be to just implement a small, just like tiny little piece of your yard or, or like wherever, you know, maybe it's your neighbors, you know, any anywhere that you can get land. And really easy way to get started. So just to like, a way of dipping your toe in the water.
Now what, like how do you feel because I've been I've been thinking a lot about this concept of like, you know, Gorilla acts of beauty. Right? But like, temporary, but like now when I'm thinking about you know, the idea of what you're talking about, like how cool would it be if in like you know little areas in urban areas like thinking about like New York and stuff. If people kind of like collectively, you know, like planted and then collectively like Just care, you know, have little patches and then try to like, grow a guild, you know? And like little surrounding you know things. How fun would that be? You know, like,
yeah, and people are doing that people are doing that here people. Other places? Yeah, definitely. I don't, I can't like, off the top of my head, like I can't think of a specific place in the city right now that someone has done it that I have, like come across, but I know that there is there's a big like permaculture food forest in Queens that sort of started out that way. And it was like, it was just a piece of land that no one was using, I think it was owned by the city, that it was just like a crappy piece of land that was adjacent to some, like, train tracks like Amtrak or like commuter train tracks. And some people just like, started doing stuff on it, building, like, building the beginnings of this food forest. And now it has turned into this whole amazing thing.
I just love that, like, take literally taking back to land, you know. And that's, I mean, see, this is, I know that everybody has their own, like form of protest. But the fact of the matter is, is that for many of us who are disabled, like I am, like, there's just a lot of like, is that, you know, were made to feel like, Oh, we're not a good protester if you don't do this, right. And so, you know, for us to find different ways in which we can contribute. It's really important, you know, so for somebody who might not be able to, because of like commuting issues or something like that, like, they can't go to DC to do a protest. But, you know, they live off of the train line. And so they're close to the garden, and they can, you know, do they can dedicate or volunteer for an hour to take care of taking care of the garden, you know, they can contribute in one way, if not the other.
Yeah, I mean, and for me personally, like, I am not one to, like, go out into the street, and hold up a sign about anything. Like I am more, I am more of the person that's like, what can I create, that's going to benefit people and help people in this moment? Like, what can I do? Rather than like, seeing that someone else do something? Right, okay. Like, I'm just like, putting the power in my own hands.
Right. Okay. And I've never thought about it that way. But I think that's also, you know, what I'm trying to do with this, you know, dance, art, and basically like creativity, festival, but in, in honor of mental health, because all of these things are happening in the world around us. Like, it's so much for all of us to hearing from all of these different perspectives. And like, it is having an impact on mental health from all of these different directions. And personally, what has helped me so much to even begin to deal with any of this, because like, I myself struggle with mental health, and I still am and I have been my entire life. Like, since I was seven that I know of, right? has been art, you know, has been music has been any kind of art. And I truly think that like, art is the easiest way to introduce this conversation. And like, I feel like we can, you know, so many people are now talking about the fact that like, gardening actually helps reduce stress, like, studies have actually shown that, you know, studies show that by eating vegetables that have that you grow yourself, both the act of doing it, and then the consumption of it, maybe it's the placebo effect, but like people's like literally their vitals have improved when they consume their own food. Like this is not just fucking you know, like, this isn't just pretend like this is actually scientifically based, but why aren't we? Why are we having all of these different conversations separately, instead of together? So when you try one thing, and it might not might not work, you have all of these other areas that you might be able to explore? To see if you know if one route doesn't work for you, maybe some others well.
Yeah, and and again, like I, I say this all the time, I really feel like gardening can save the world. Like, it just has so many benefits in so many different aspects of our lives and like it can affect you know, ever The aspects of society, like, you know, we're talking about mental health and stuff like that. But like, you know, we're one of the big things that we're talking about in society right now is like climate and, like the use of fossil fuels and stuff like that. I mean, if you look at farming, farming, the way that we farm now, and like, industrial monoculture, mono, mono crop, like that requires more fuel. And, like the, the creation of like pesticides and fertilizers, like, there's so much fuel going into that and then everything is grown and harvested, and then it has to be shipped around the world. And you know, we're using as much fuel for that, like, we could completely eliminate all of that by by growing food closer to where we live.
And it would also eliminate the cost flow, because that's one of the reasons that would also lower the cost, because for so many people, the reason why they eat, quote, unquote, unhealthy, and all of these, like health problems, you know, exists is because of the fact that they can't afford to buy fruits and vegetables, because they live in food deserts. And all of this is like a cycle that perpetuates and feeds off itself and keeps growing. Because it's like, it's just the fucking ball that keeps getting bigger as it rolls down a mountain. And yet there are ways to stop it. But like, it has to all it has to be a collective thing, we can't individually Stop it, we have to collectively do it.
And I think some of it, it just even comes down to the fact of like, recognizing that it's possible to do things another way. Because, you know, we have most of the people alive now, in Western society, like we were all born into this. And we just like, it's just the way it's always been. So it's like, oh, well, I guess this is just how how things are done. But like, it doesn't have to be that way. And so if we can conceive of a new way of being in the world, than that, it just completely changes everything.
And also, what changes everything is that this is the first time in history, that because of technology and the capacity to potentially connect and communicate in real time with people from around the fucking world, simultaneously, in real time across, you know, time zones, like fucking take a page from Rihanna. And she did a simultaneously worldwide release of Yes, it was lingerie, but like that principle. So the notion that like, at one moment, in a singular time, that everybody around the world could receive the exact same information, or make a decision at that exact moment in time. The implications of that are absolutely, like, potentially, literally world changing, you know, what if we apply that to something that could be amazing for the world instead of destructive? Or to capitalists? That
who? Yeah, and I think that it's like, the one of the reasons that we're seeing all of the, like, chaos and breakdown that we're seeing is because we are able to communicate, and I like this, the we're seeing that, like, the things are not working the way that we're doing them now. And so right, so we're sort of, yeah, yeah, I just feel like we're in this like, very transitional moment. Like, it's very, like, were the birth pains are are happening. And it's rough. But I feel like we're stepping into something new and exciting. It's just like, the, the stress and the anxiety of watching everything that we have known to, like everything that has been the way it has been, like seeing that falling down is yeah, like, it's stressful. But like, if we can remember that while things crumbled, new things are being built in their place. Like I just, I have a lot of optimism. I mean, I do think that it probably gets worse before it gets better. But I have optimism, because there there are lots of great things that we can do.
Yeah, I think like, I don't know how to explain it. But I feel this like urgency right now. Like when you spoke about, you know, putting instead of going to the streets, which, you know, I totally understand, you know, why people you know, choose that option, but like for me, there's a whole multitude of reasons why, you know, I can't do that. Number one, you know, because I mental health like, like the last six weeks in particular, like I've had difficulty even establishing, like, whether or not I'm decisis Seeing like, literally like whether or not what is happening around me is reality or not like I've been, like in close contact like with my therapist, my psychiatrist and even a neurologist to figure out if like, what I'm experiencing is like physiological psychiatric, like medic, like, you know, fucking migraines with aura or whether or not like, I'm literally if this is just like, like physiological symptoms from like my five concussions, my three, you know, epileptic seizures, you know, my three seizures, my 77 sessions of AECT, my 37, like my 36 sessions of TMS, or all of the medications that like, literally, I've been trying to, and I'm only like, at my parents house, like sitting in the backyard, and I have all of this mental turmoil. So to be like, in a fucking crowd, potentially, like, under physical and like, all of that, like, that is not a safe place for me. And that can potentially be very, like, harmful for me. So like, I can't help in that way. But what I can do is I can try to help create a place like what I'm doing with the app, where I try to preserve as many voices in their own voice in their own image, as fast and as like thorough as possible. So like, you know, with your profile, like when you want to, like, you can literally submit as detailed as a bio as he wants, like, we can put both of these podcasts on there, you can put, you know, like examples of the projects that you've already completed, you can literally make a course that if you want, it can be free, if you want, you can charge it. And literally, you can even have like a link to your direct like Venmo where people can, like contribute. So it's like a Patreon, but you don't have to pay for Patreon. Because it'll just exist, like my profile. So that way it'll house it and you don't have to pay. Like why should we each individually pay to have a website? That's stupid, you know, so like this instead? Because like, this whole project is me trying to see like, if there's another possible way, just like you were saying, because like, I feel like there's the first time that there's all these methodologies for technology. And if they're just seen as like collective tools for a greater whole, it's really exciting to see like, what can happen with them? You know, because like, I don't want to lose money. I just want to see what can happen. Sure.
Yeah, I totally agree. And, and on that note, I actually just, I just started doing a substack. Are you familiar? Oh,
I'm fine. I'm, I'm a couple. I don't understand how it works.
I mean, it's basically like, it's like a blog, basically, like a blogging platform. And you can sorry,
how does it differ from medium?
I don't really know medium, but do so on medium. Can you? Obviously you can like subscribe to People things, right? You, okay, so like, with substack like you, you sign up. And basically it's like a newsletter and it anytime the person that posts it like it goes to your email inbox. And there's also an app and you can read stuff online, but it goes directly to your inbox. And so you can like read it there. Okay. Yeah. And then you can go ahead.
No, medium is just like a blog. Yours is more like a newsletter. I
get it. Yeah. And you can, people can subscribe to it. And you can, you can put a paywall so like, you can post things. So like, what I'm doing is I was a gymnast. And I like I know we talked about this last time. So I am doing like a, I'm calling it finding equilibrium, handstand practice in mindful living. So I'm like, on Wednesdays, I'm putting out like, tips and exercises and things that you can do to like, learn how to hold a handstand. And I'm like, sort of relating it to some sort of aspect of mindfulness or medical or meditation. So on Wednesdays, that is like a paywalls. Post. So like, if you're a paid subscriber to my back then then you get access to that and to all of the whole archive and then on Fridays, I'm, I'm doing like a free Friday thing where I put out some little blurb about a specific mindfulness or meditation practice and then I am recording, guided meditations that you can embed in the post, if you will. It's so cool. And so like my thinking about this is like, you can you can set the prize to be whatever you want, and people can subscribe and pay, like, whatever you want it to be, but like a minus that at $6 a month. So like six times a month is not like a terribly, like, that's not a lot of money. I mean, people are paying way more than that for anything and everything else. But my thinking is that like how can we? How can we support people who are creators in a way that like, you know, like, how can we pay them to just do the thing that they're really good at, and the thing that like they can share with people that hasn't benefit to society? Right. Um, so like, I feel like this is a really great way to do that. Like, I mean, there are people on YouTube and Tiktok, and Instagram and all this stuff that are that have, like millions of followers and subscribers, and they're
people millions and millions of dollars. Saying that, like greedy peasant is now like, he doesn't see a Patreon. And he has like, he doesn't have millions of followers, he has less than that. And he's he's able to, you know, actually, like fully, you know, do his content based upon that. And I think like we were saying before, I think it's now finally feasible to do that. And I think to the, your idea of having a mix of free and paid content is definitely the way to go. One thing that I wanted to ask you is particularly since you were a gymnast specifically, have you ever thought about potentially doing a first A, like free kind of introduction, but then potentially, like one on one coaching for dancers, because some physical therapists like they're more, you know, like, general body movement, but I feel like as a gymnast, you have like, you know, 360 movement, as well as strength, involvement and rhythm. So I feel like, because I know so many dancers, who would probably benefit from, you know, your approach. Yeah,
I the the reason that I sort of went with the handstand thing is I was I was talking to this person that I went out, I was getting, I was getting into massage, and I was talking to a massage therapist. And we were just like chatting. And I mentioned that I had been a gymnast and Bogle he's like, Oh, well, hey, I just took or I've been taking this handstands class. And he's like, it's all completely online. And it's all done through zoom. And the guy who's running the class, it's French, and he loves a pair. And I was like, Huh. Okay. So like, that sort of got the gears turning, and I had already sort of been thinking about this, like Patreon substack. Like, sort of model. And so like, that's, that that is a little bit and I'm hoping that like, you know, once I can get enough like readership that I can be like, Hey, I'm gonna start off, I'm going to offer this six week class, where we meet once a week, and you know, I have things, exercises and stretches and stuff for you. And then maybe, yeah, go ahead,
I just think you like, because for some dancers, like, especially like, if they get an injury, to be able to, like, maybe pay you like an on an on spec basis, like, once they needed you, because for a lot of dancers, like, they might not have money, like all the time, you know, they might only be able to, like, pay for you, like when they're gearing up for a comp, or like when they're recovering from an injury or when they're, you know, they're gonna be in a video or a commercial, and they want to make sure that they'll be at their best. So they're like training, you know, like Rocky style. So I don't know, I just feel like that might be a really good just side hustle, just something to think about. Because I think that your ideas are fucking fantastic. You can tell that you've like, put in the time and like you are, you have like an amazing long term plan. But when you were talking about building an audience, this is just another potential, you know, subset that might help you remember how you were talking about having, you know, your initial client, you know, to kind of open up that, you know, that route. This is one that I know at least 50 people in Atlanta, that would be interested. So just something to think about. let it percolate. I'm not gonna push Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because no, I'm actually working on this whole, they're gonna they're interested in, you know, being a part of the festival. So even if you fucking did like an in person 15 to 30 minute like in person, you know, you lead them, like in through a series of stretches, we filmed that. And then there's a follow up of who wants to continue potentially working with you like that right there, boom, we throw those that lesson up online people pay $1 to fucking watch it. Who the fuck knows how much you can get from that? You know? That's okay. See, look at that. See? That's what's so great about having conversations and being open to like, what can potentially happen, you know what I'm saying? And that's like, all, all I'm trying to like do in different situations. Because, you know, I feel like everyone, anytime people say to me, I have an idea. I'm like, Oh, my God, tell me everything. Like, tell me everything. Tell me how like, what do you need to fucking make it happen? And if I don't know, people, I will ask shamelessly until I find out someone who said yes, you know? Yeah, so, I mean, think about, you know, you know, if they're like, I mean, honestly, it sounds like you've already thought about a lot of shit that you need to make this happen. But you know, if you think of things that you need help with, in order to pull that off, you know, let me know how I can help. Like, I could probably
add this into my like, bio and stuff. We need to talk that I'm like, for all the stuff for the, like, the bio, and the
Yes. Like, no, like I add added in there, think about, yeah, because think about this, like I said to everybody, think about your bio as like your own little fucking wing of the museum, and also your pitch to the people that you want to work with you. Because when I, you know, when I propose it, like in that, you know, in, maybe I'll make a sub pack, actually, now that you recommended that. So I'll be like, here's where I'm going to, you know, promote, like ideas that people have about projects, just so you can find out about it, you know, the broadcast channel is going to be about this festival specifically. And then when I put you in the sub stack, I am going to link to your profile. So your profile is your place to pitch your concept. So include whatever you want people to know, you know, so they can think about it and decide whether or not they want to work with you. And then you include, you know, like how they can get in contact with you. Because, like, the fact of the matter is, is that, you know, I'm going to be working on other stuff too. And close, like, you guys are adults, like you don't need me to fucking sit there at the table, every time you have a conversation, you know what I'm saying? Like, you guys figure it out between you two, if you're compatible to work together, what you both need all that shit. And then I'm just the one who makes the introduction, and then it's up to you, you know, and, like I said, is that, you know, if any money is made from it, or anything like that, like, basically, you know, I would only want for my expenses to be covered. So in the sense that like, if anything, were to come of it, like, I would only want 3% And then the remaining 97% would be split between you guys. And that's just to like, help pay for the web hosting, you know, the sound or the you know, subscription fees, like all the tech stuff that I have to pay for like the otter AI, the Squarespace the, you know, the type of call subscription, just like that stuff. But like, like I said, I don't want I almost want to, like, not make any money from this at all, to show that the same amount of money and more hands versus less can actually like reverberate and make infinitely more of an impact. Like in more hands versus less if that makes sense.
Yeah, so
So yeah, so basically, this is my whole little like, fuck us how they tell you businesses supposed to be so yeah, so my whole goal is like I I almost want to like under under pay myself as a big fuck you to all of these people who write these books about building billion dollar apps by taking advantage of everybody else, and then they become billionaires, and they fuss over everybody else. So this is my letter to a middle finger to the billionaire club. Oh, have it? Yeah, so you let me know like, do you? I mean, is there what I feel like I Regarding this entire conversation, so what else do you want to talk about? In terms of what you've got going on right now? What your focus is? Where do you want to go next with the festival? Is there anything that you need to you know, like, Do you have any physical things that you need to like transport down here? Like, what do you need for the festival? Do you know yet that kind of thing?
I don't know yet. But I can't imagine that it would be a lot.
I mean, it would probably just be like, I would probably have some like slides or something like a deck, okay. With our coin or some sort?
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out like, I know that they have like a gigantic like screen stage situation. I don't necessarily No, like, if there is, I'm sure there's there has to be a way to project on there. But I don't necessarily know that like a 4000 seat amphitheater is the best venue for that. But we'll figure that out. You know, once we get there, basically, like there is at least. So there's you, then there's going to be a panel with activist like community activist talking about, you know, the importance of Community Preservation. That's why I was thinking you would be talking with because obviously, like all of these things are integrated. Then I'm going to have a psychiatrist who is a veteran, and who basically is going to be talking about PTSD, along with a dancer who also has PTSD and was a veteran as well or is a veteran. So and they're going to be talking about like men's mental health. And then I'm also going to be celebrating this amazing, amazing woman, her name is Marina. She has this vintage store and gallery that's been around like for over a decade in downtown St. Pete, which is like becoming gentrified. It's fuck down here. But she started this, like art, she started this amazing art salon series, which is what my series is inspired by. And so she had these like, amazing, like trash in fashion where like, 70% of the material has to be made out of recycled materials, like she's been doing that ship for, like a decade, you know, like, talk about environmentally friendly stuff. So basically, she stopped doing it around like, the pandemic, like the last one is was in February of 2020. And then she had a child. So basically, that they're like, not going to happen ever, like going forward. So I'm doing like an homage and breaching, like all the people who previously participated, and throwing like one in honor of her. And like, we're gonna have like a secret Facebook group to like, plan it and stuff. So that's going to be a part of it. And then there's going to be a panel where like, people talk about, like vintage clothes and stuff, and also how it can help with like, environmental matters and stuff. So that's like what we have so far. And then obviously, we're gonna have people talking like dancers talking about like, using like, building community like and transferring knowledge, you know, from dancer, dancer, and like, almost like the family trees that happen, and how like, just just showing like how this dancer in New York introduced me to Atlanta, and then the fact that like, this one dancer who I've met several times throughout the years, how the last time I was in Atlanta, just a few months, like just a month and a half ago, he single handedly introduced or tagged, like when I sent him pictures of dancers, I didn't know he named 42 Dancers I didn't already know. Think of that as a tree. When we talked about a seed and how it grows. That's 42 new voices and branches I didn't previously know how wild is that in terms of visual? Yeah, you know, so that's, that's already like what's on the table and that's just the spoken words you know, so like, I feel like even if this even if I don't get this grant and even if my city doesn't want this some city somewhere and like the already 12 pages of potential like spawn con that I'm going to be reaching out to like this is going to happen maybe not next year, but it will fucking happen eventually, you know. That's awesome. So yeah, let me send me your bio whenever you're ready. And then I will be posting at and you've inspired me to make a sub stack. I think that's a genius idea. And yeah, so I will be I'm hope if you can, please try that. Give it to me by December 1, because the deadline to the grant is the 15th of December. So I'd like to have it as assembled, you know, as I can before then.
Okay, awesome.
And even if you don't, it's totally fine. Like to still on the spreadsheet. And I can put as a as a, actually, you know what, I can make a temporary one for you. I'll just use the picture, like from your SoundCloud like the original SoundCloud conversation, and then I can go right now. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So as temporary, I can put the old SoundCloud and this conversation on there as a placeholder, and you just send me the bio and your pic whenever you're ready.
Okay, cool. I'll probably just do this on the SoundCloud page, and just like update it a little bit. And then I have, well, we talked about this last time, but I back in 2020, and deleted all of my like, personal social media. But now I have a personal Instagram again. So I'll add that on there too. Which is kind of silly that I deleted it to begin with, because I had lots of followers, I had 1000s of followers, almost 5000 followers. And then I was just like, I don't care. Well away with it. And now I'm kind of regretting whatever.
But you know, what's really interesting, though, is that like, it's kind of like a time capsule. Like, there's a couple, there's actually like this one Instagram account that I have that like, it's from before my memory loss. And it's even before the festive anthropologist account. So like, I will never be able to, like edit that account ever. So it's literally like a time capsule and will never be, you know, unless Instagram ceases to exist. And it's so interesting to just like, go back at it and then have like, no context for any of it. And just be like, who was this person? So it's kind of a bummer. You don't have that? You know?
Yeah. But I didn't realize recently that anything that people had like, Tasmanian if they had like, used a photo that I had taken or something. It's still tagged there. So like, some of that stuff is still there. It's just not on my account or my old account. So I guess there's some lingering footprints and things.
Wait, so how do you find it though? Do you have to go on each person's profile,
I went and just like searched my name in the, the like, discover area. My name and all kinds of stuff came up.
Fascinating. So that's the thing like so the whole process of me, like, because I kept so much stuff throughout the years. So without the memory, like looking back at it all. I've been like, number one. Why did I keep this thing? Right? Like, what about this object made me want to. And then also, like, you can tell that like, I was constantly like, trying to establish reality. Like, I kept this because like, to reassure myself, like, oh, this actually happened kind of thing. Like, for some reason I printed out emails, like, all of these emails from when I studied abroad in Australia. Like, why did I decide to print out every single one of them? It's just so bizarre and like, there's so old, and it's so fascinating, because they each have like the date that I printed them out on. And you can tell that their oldest fuck because the ink for fucking Hotmail at the banner at the top of it is like faded to pink. Like it's hysterical. Like what you'd like did I think I was writing a book later. Like, what what kind of asshole thinks that their life is important enough to even keep this shit? So like, Was I a megalomaniac? Like, what's the like? Did I think I was gonna be arrested? I don't know what? Like, I don't I don't know. And it's just so interesting to me how, you know, there are now all of these kinds of technologies, where in your case, you can find all of this old shit. And did you ever see that fucking reel where this girl is like, filming something. She's like, filming is like the sky. And the sky like walks across the frame. And then all of a sudden, like the girl like they say, like, oh, FBI method, and then they zoom in on his face. And then they do a face identifier, and then they search his face. And then they actually like, figure out who the guy is within like a real length. It's insane. And I'm like, Oh, my God, like technology like that exists. It's wild. To think about,
you know, I think I have where it's like, there You can access like public surveillance camera footage or something. Yeah, that also terrifies me terrifies me.
Well, it's now like, just think about it with AI and think about like, all of the shit. Like even the deep shit online, like, if you've ever had like any kind of like skandi photo, like uploaded to the internet like that will now ever be like forever died here. digital trail. It's terrible. Okay, I can never run for office. That's
okay. You know what, if some of the people that are currently holding office got elected, then anyone can do it.
That's true. That's true. Very true. Yeah. Especially George Kent. Did you hear that?
That was specifically what I was thinking about when I said that was I thought that this morning.
No, he, so he dropped his reelection bid after the thing came out. And did you see the tweet from the only fans person who interacted with him?
No, I didn't say that.
She said that he wanted her to rate him. I know. Okay, the topic at hand. So we might need to edit this part out, although I kind of liked the no editing out part. And again, this is the whole thing is that I'm not going to ever edit anyone's voice. But I'll send you this file. If you want me to edit out anything. Let me okay. I
mean, I don't think I've said anything too, too scandalous.
Yeah, yeah, I think we I think we stayed above this thing. So I'm so excited, I cannot wait to I just think that this is going to be really cool on a lot of levels. And I also think I'm going to learn a lot from you in terms of like, you know, the other way to reach people, you know, because, you know, there are like different information needs to be conveyed in different ways, and also preserved in different ways. Like, you know, like a newsletter, vacation or like courses are separate from like, oh, here are where the photos are, you know, you can't have it all muddled together all the time, you know, because then how do you go back and find what you need when you need it? You know?
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah. So that's the kind of stuff that I'm thinking about. And that's also how I'm organizing the app is basically since I can't code and I'm not good at I don't know how to do PowerPoint and stuff. The different pages of the app are basically me showing how I want different facets of the app to work. Okay. Yeah. So, so let me know if you have any questions and send me that stuff when you're ready. Okay, I will do that. Okay. All right. We'll talk soon. All right. Bye. Bye, you too.
