Brightmoor Framework - Equity Tools for Implementation

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Okay, everyone didn't get started. I want to say hello to everybody. Thank you for coming. My name is Dave Walker from the planning and development department. And this is part of the framework area framework. So today, I'm going to introduce you to two in one, I'm going to ask them conceptual Creo is, and first we're going to introduce Anthony Zander, who is the director of creo. And Anthony's actually policy director, who is mainly Mitchell, who works for Creo as well. And if you just want to stand up and introduce yourself, and just let them know who you are, and what Creo is.

So good evening, everyone. I appreciate that you are here, participation in our community being vital to the progression of our city. And so this is our camera sorry. And so I just want to say thank you, again for the invite. So yeah, my name is Anthony Xander, I am the director of civil rights inclusion and opportunity, better known as Creole Creole is responsible for ensuring that that civil rights are protected among all visitors, residents and the business owners. And we also think about the conclusion and opportunities for entrepreneurship, and things of that nature. I won't go into too much details, but that's kind of an overview of it. So if anybody has any issues relating to how they feel that there is integrity, communication, and or that particular community is not being considered for gays or being not considered for opportunities that have come that are coming to Detroit, we are the department that comes through and what we can do for you or not, that's

it. I'm Mandy, and Policy Director of Korea.

Before I proceed, I'd like to introduce everyone to President Pro Tem, this year, we just want to say a few words or.

Okay, so we have a robust agenda. On the screen, you'll see the agenda for today, we're going to talk a little bit about the ability to against for 10 minutes, and then Creole is going to do that. And then the equity toolkits of cultural Well, probably. Can everybody see okay, we need the lights on? Yeah.

We're gonna turn the lights off every single freestyle.

Okay, but not yet. Okay, so just everyone, this is the area so just everybody understands that a breadboard neighborhood area plan. Look at your neighborhood. Six, Riverdale Miller grow a little bit. I'm not part of a little bit of Grandma's a little bit of school crap and Food Association, Castle Rouge community in the lives of our community. So that is the goal. That is the entire area of what is the planning framework area. And so that's what we can do now given you for about a year and a couple of months. And so it's been a robust conversations about how we can improve the communities over time, and all the different types of ways. So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Anthony Zander, and I'm gonna give you the the thing. And then what we're going to do is they're gonna have to go brace after each mark for questions. And then I'll track the questions with a little board.

Alright, so again, Anthony Zander, Director of creo. And pardon me, I tend to speak, my speech gets a little accelerated that time. So talk a little bit fast and slow down. All right, so.

So talking about real

estate. So one of the things that we've done that 2020 on, the mayor is sort of what's called a policy concept. It's an entire focus group that focuses on eliminating barriers, increasing, increasing opportunity in various departments within the city. Some of the areas include human resources, entrepreneurship, workforce development, HR, public safety, and the sorts. And the reason that we wanted to do that is we're sure that there was equity in all of those particular areas, when it came to not only what we do, and how we operate our policies and procedures, but making sure that those equitable opportunities are available for you all. Right, so about a couple of months ago, finding a partner in America to the kind of conversation to talk about, because you all have brought up what is equity and how every part of this overall plan and so we came here we have sanctions that we talked about, as far as how do we implement what essentially is an Equity Toolkit? So since the end, we resource heavy toolkits, primarily looking at cities that have built two toolkits around urbanization. And so we have conversations with the city of Oakland department of race and equity carry their department, their city, ID, and we're ever going to do the director of the City University of New York because somebody hurts me about a part as well working with sorry, said, yes, they are working with the City of Oakland for one particular city on every single day. Everybody told you. So a quick definition of equity today. So you don't want a handout that was provided the handout, we obviously haven't had that handout.

So let me say that the PowerPoint was sent out today, okay, two hours, less than two hours before the meeting, that is someone who did not speak

to that. And then just take a quick time. So we moved this meeting up by two months to get this meeting done. And typically, they need a month just to go to the leadership to go and do things in public. They didn't have that. So this department had to do something really quickly. I understand that. But that's just the way it happened. I

don't want to argue with you. I'm just nothing I'm not arguing I just I just want this, to

know how difficult it was for Creel. To do this. Instead of waiting two months, they should have been doing this presentation in September, we move this up.

But let me tell you that that's not true. Maybe it is because I wasn't thinking before now.

We don't have to debate it. I'm just saying, we ask for the added time at the last minute to make sure we got everything where the I'm gonna get that we will have everything so that we could review it before meeting so we

only have a certain amount of time, I heard your message. And I'm just letting you know Creo tried to do the best that they can. If we can let them continue. I'm going to go ahead.

Okay. So they were on the table. So, Mandy, she's going to get into she's going to start passing. Okay, sounds good. So let's start with identifying wood and defining attributes. Okay. And so on your handout, you'll have that definition, because we want to make sure that you all have something to reference as we go through this presentation. So I'm just going to read verbatim of what the definition is. It's essentially a tool measure a tool that measures equity, or equity, equity, or equality in multiple areas that are impacted by city policy, such as housing, economic development, and public safety. So again, she's coming in well with this handout, and you should have that as a reference.

Give us a couple of seconds that she can get those out to you.

So Maggie, later on, in part two of the presentation, she'll go into more detail as far as what toolkits are out there with colleagues in different areas. But we're not going to have a definition as a background as we continue this conversation. So something that no one here knows, the tools are going to be exactly the same. So like Dallas isn't going to be the same in Seattle, New York, etc, etc. And so you got to think about that the goal was to use it the information of the qualities inequalities to guide city policy. And so it is a way for us to use it as a guide for us to think about how we use and write policy in our city as far as a city government into the country. All right. So again, you have here on the handout, I want to start by defining equity.

Equity is the key.

Our residents enjoy equal access to the city's resources, regardless of race, gender, age, ability, sexual orientation, or other features of identity.

So I mentioned some techniques. And so we talked about damages and equity, look at talking about having the conversations and thinking about what are the themes, what are different ways that the prospect before so you think about the integrity of the process, you think about equity of power? Do you think about the equity of where we are in implementation so Let's talk about equity in equity and process heavy your process, we focus on ensuring that the process of decision making is everyone on board. So an example of that would be our community engagement. So the city has a community outreach board, which requires us to cave on the type of planning or the type of invitation or the programming or the spending that occurs with any particular type of project in a certain neighborhood that this community has a right to have a voice that the community has a right to share their voices with that particular about that particular theme or action item that is going to impact their community. Some things are specific to the community, some things are going to be specific, that are going to cover the city wide area. So let's talk about equities and Ultra. So equities. And these are also focused on measurements of impacts and policy programs for the decisions of its red elephants, right. So over time, those measurements can be used to try to correct the long term impacts of racism, sexism, or other types of discrimination. So I will talk about equity outcomes, we talked about what are those measurements at the end of that particular implementation to see how impactful has it been to that particular that particular that particular area. That's what hasn't been identified in that toolkit. So an example of So an example would be let's look at the city of Leicester City. So 2017 city of Oakland, they developed their Acme toolkit, and in which they were issued a report and the following year 2018. So equity, if you can see it in Oakland, they have a kind of a spread, more evenly spread on let's say, there, right, so you can see Asian 50%, Hispanic 20, Black 21, white 32. And so you can see that these toolkits, again, you see that they had 17 disparities, including these particular areas preschool, we spoke about the bullshit health insurance and cars. So this is what they're based upon. They're based upon based on race, race was a nation with a us as far as their toolkit. So, equities implementation, everything else, equity work can be done in a way, let's say you put programs and policies into place. Once we know what the inequalities are, we put recommend we put resources and efforts towards the recommended reforms way. And so that's kind of where I'm where today, we are now talking about ideas that are coming along based upon your focus groups and your conversations that you've been having over the last year.

So exactly what being the city streets parks, destroyed Parkland made equity, a central part of his 2022 institution. And again, as a community, we have surveys, open journals, and they wanted to hear about the needs and priorities and solicited feedback on a draft plan, and a two month review process. So the Department of Parks, they, their 2000 strategic plan was really bad in my own eyes would have been a great approach to as far as the documents who were using that as a strategic plan for any particular area of focus area in this particular area. Obviously, we're talking about parks. And all kind of sped through that a little bit. But I just wanted to give you a foundation for which Mandy is going to go into a little bit more detail on some of the information that we just that I just covered. So but I want to pause here right now to see if you all have any questions as far as what we just covered in the last five minutes.

Quick, yes. I would just kind of challenge that definition of equity a little bit. Okay. If you talked about equal access, right, and different groups, different folks. Equity is more, it's more than just blacks. Right? It's about folks having a need. So sometimes folks may do more. Right? For example, when we think about communities of color, that have you been systematically why excluded from banking and in funding is overboard, right to address that folks may need more access, right to capital, more access to mobile investments and so forth and so, is getting at a certain type of equality of outcome, right, but even sometimes, that that is not necessarily because of the way in which right All right, systemic racism has created

systemic problems, I don't disagree. And that's why we say here, equity is achieved when all residents enjoy the equal access to it. So you're absolutely right. So sometimes you need to put more, let me just manage, sometimes you need to put more resources in one area. So at the end of the day, that they have overcome those barriers that have been put in their place for it, what it generates is before them, so I'm not saying that we put the same amount into everybody's budget, when I'm saying is that we need to put the fair amount on everybody's bucket, so that at the end of the day that those barriers have been overcome. And then now we at a more level playing field, when it comes to things like you're saying, as far as access to capital,

right, I agree. If that doesn't read like that, I get what you're saying, I'd like to get what you just

gave an example of hopefully, and I believe,

so yeah, so right. So you're gonna guess, do you have

to say didn't have an adequate amount of time to go over and fire me hard? But do you have any example of, say, for instance, equality in the school, then housing and disabled men and income examples of you guys went to Oh, play, we know, you guys see all this beautiful stuff. You made sure there were people around and Asians doing this and this and blacks and Latinos and why, you know, examples of that.

So not to spoil. So as well. So once we started having these conversations with the planning department, and we were looking at the different entities, whether it be a university, rather the cities that have implemented toolkits, and have some sort of what we consider successes on and being able to measure those outcomes. Yes, we plan on studying no more, right now, we just wanted to kind of give an overview of what this looks like, then we wanted to go out there, and we wanted to study within a person. And that is on the agenda to do so that way that we can see what they will set and how they got there and bring those strategies back to here. And

so you don't have an example that is no so

not because we're not measuring, we haven't been to the point where we're measuring.

So if you're not measuring outcomes, what are you meant,

because we haven't implemented anything in order to measure orphans, but but we'll measure outcomes. So let's make that very, very clear. One of the reasons that we run here is because somebody suggested that we need to see what are the outcomes like how is this what we're doing right now, we want to affect us in the future. We have to get to the future.

But you guys are open as an example. If that's an example, once in a while, I'm just trying to figure out what is what was in an example.

An example, an example of a city that is using an equity. Oh, sorry. It's an example of a city that's using an equity tool.

But has not resolved.

They do have results. But could we maybe delay that for later in the slideshow? Because I'm going to talk more about Oakland later.

Yeah, okay. Real quick.

Why did you pick considering the population of African Americans? Troy jority in the city? I don't see the comparison.

So that's a wonderful question. Just so everybody knows demographically. Detroit is about 78%. African American, once you bring that up, Oakland is open

anymore as far as population, as you can see here, 21%.

So why did we take it this is just an example where we're explaining some concepts. But there are at least, I don't know, eight cities that we know of that are using equity toolkits. And so we could look at those other cities as well. Not that it's like,

we're not saying that we're going to use their model and say everything they did, we want to see what was their approach to identify where they want, where they needed to start. And what were the what were the what were those essential parts of the toolkit that was here for additional

lift the city of Detroit, we know that the problem with education

and housing,

boom Pharisee jobs, fairs, the getting people to work, why would you go to a city that does not have the similar concept?

Can we can we can we all have conversations that have demand for our portion? And so that would be a little bit more details on how to what triggers are commonly referred to kids and the factors that go

into it. And then as they go into that, I do want to let you know when the research that they've done some of the stuff that I've seen, there was no majority black city that has implemented a racial equity tool. So there is no examples. So I just want to make sure that that's clear as well. And

DC,

DC is not majority black

anymore. They've lost that to statistic almost eight years.

For majority black than in

DC is not a majority black city. Not anymore. DC is only 3% of flash flooding here is now.

far closer to Detroit. Yeah.

So can we just hold off on some of these questions? Because as we talked about methods versus actual being able to compare once one for each individual session? Yes, it sounds like this is

something that has not happened. And this is the first game we're playing

as Dave, because he's been playing department. So what do you guys have here?

So the Equity Toolkit, I know you're using these examples? Because that's what's available. But it sounds like I just did this. So have you used an Equity Toolkit for any

of the others? No, we have not used an Equity Toolkit.

The framework plans are set up to make sure that we hear every citizens voice, original community to define what they want to improve this. Some tunes are very different by making to the north edge and what they want. It's very different from what the people wanted to follow was, and I'm sure for us, it's very difficult, right? Or is very different. Every community has to develop their own important values for what they want. This community is the only community that we've ever heard that wants an equity tool.

Rather than a out for the future of health,

to give this give a presentation, not just one in the sense that we would use it as a racial equity tool kit was not necessarily necessarily city wide, but to serve that function. So throughout the years, right communities engage and about the development projects for future health, the district Detroit, right Fisher body 21 development has asked for and called for racial equity.

So just so we're clear to everybody you're

talking about is a type of racial equity approach where you go in and you engage the community, there are different there are very different it was there are ones attacks to particular, the markets and reprocess. I do

want to be clear, though, so the examples that you gave district, Detroit and for those are CBO projects that are over $75 million. Most of the framework plans that 12 that we done that impacted over 400,000 residents, there is no developments in those plans that are 75 years. So the CBO kicks in 75 million. That's a whole different process. For Henry Ford and district is a whole different processes. CBO is a whole different

communities have asked for get equity to Henry

Ford, our district Detroit, they have asked for that. Yes, but in the framework plans that we've done in the city of Detroit in the planning department, out of the 12 framework plays that we've done that incorporate 60 different communities that incorporates over 400,000 people. And we've never had a community ask for Racial Equity Toolkit in the framework plans that we've done.

You know, why? Because most residents probably don't know about this.

Let people know.

Yeah, can we just so we understand that there are multiple toolkits that can be used, we understand that it could be implemented, and we could have implemented, but we heard and we're hearing, there was a desire to ensure that we can implement it in this plane. So can we stay on this plane?

We don't, because we don't because we can get distracted by we should have done this. You've done that.

But this plan, that plan that we have now, and we're talking about the Racial Equity Toolkit that has been requested. What has been brought up is one option, the opening, but you're going to get others that are incorrect. So I'm just asking because right now I'm telling the bag We got folks trying to understand what's going on, we got some people who really know exactly about the race toolkit, or the equity, Racial Equity Toolkit, and others have no idea. And we're arguing about what we haven't done in the past and other projects, we get lost on what we should be doing is I'm just asking for, allow me to go through the process of the presentation. And then as phone calls, and if it needs to be called, please allow them to finish first and then we'll go from there.

So can we go? So we want to pass it over to the department. I'm sorry, one more time.

Very simple. Yes. Forgive me if I missed this previously, first off, presumably Creo is an acronym What is it stands for? And then also, it says part of a city department or just an outside consulting group.

So Creo stands for civil rights include an opportunity we are a city department and we you can find us and city charter.

Okay.

And oh, I'm sorry, under the name of human rights.

Okay. Okay, so as Anthony said, I'm gonna go into more detail about how equity works. For those who aren't familiar how cities like Oakland, Seattle, Tulsa, and others have created equity toolkits and how they are applied. So equity toolkits work with a set of measurements, which are called sometimes indicators or metrics. And those measurements compare how two groups are doing. So the welfare of two groups in some dimension, and I've got a few examples on here. So from the city of New York's Equity Toolkit, race and school discipline from the city of Tulsa is Equity Toolkit, incoming fiction from the city of Oakland equity, race and business ownership. And then, just so you can see there's there's actually quite a bit of diversity and all the different things that can be measured. So these are six cities that have all developed city wide equity toolkits. And these are some of the metrics that they're looking at. These are some of the disparities that they're trying to measure over time, and maybe improve on over time, you can see that they're choosing to measure different things. That's because different measurements are going to be relevant to different cities, because every city is different. So if you look at for New York location, and EMS response times to New York is measuring how certain neighborhoods have faster response times for emergency services, compared to other neighborhoods.

These measurements are actually differences between two measurements. So we're comparing the best off and the worst off groups and measuring the difference between them. So those groups could be racial groups, different racial groups, black and white, for example. They could be men and women, immigrants or refugees, compared to native citizens, folks from high income and low income brackets are residents living closer and farther from the center of town. The difference between the most well off in the least well off group, what we call a disparity. I know you all know this term, but that's how it's being used here. So if the indicator or measurement that we were looking at was gender and income, we'd be comparing how much the average woman earns to how much the average man earns, if our indicator were race and income, we'd be looking at four or more racial groups, and figuring out which one was the best well off in some dimension, and which was the worst well off. And the difference between those two measurements is the disparity. So in terms of what cities want to achieve with equity toolkits, there's three big goals. These measurements set of a baseline or starting point. So it's like a snapshot of how well the city is doing in terms of equity, then the city can take those same measures year after year, and compare its progress on equity to that starting point. Cities also use the measurements to guide decision making, like Anthony was saying earlier. So the equity measures allow them to figure out what are the areas of greatest need, and how can they address those areas of greatest need. That's why our parks department is doing with their strategic plan. All cities that have equity toolkits in place, have developed them with a lot of input from residents. So it's not that the city is just picking out which things it wants to measure, there is a very robust back and forth process between city and residents. Where the city gets feedback on you know, is this what we want to measure is this what we want to measure? So equity toolkits are very much a collaboration. Equity toolkits are only as good as their data sources. So that's the work that the city would do before the public engagement process starts. So finding data sources that can tell us what we want to know, to do this the right way to do an Equity Toolkit the right way, you need reliable data that you can get year after year. Now this, you don't have to read all this up here it is on your handout, so you can look over it if you want. Obviously, equity toolkits can't do everything we want. So I just want to highlight a couple points here. Taking disparity measures. Like I said, it tells us how a city is doing on equity. But that snapshot by itself isn't going to make things better. So you also need funding. You also need buy in from all branches of government and across city departments. We should also keep in mind that there are some things that are really hard to measure with data like respect, for example. So how do cities create equity toolkits, and this is also on your handout. All cities, if you look at these steps, all cities follow these steps or something like it when they're creating their equity toolkits. I'm not going to read through all this, but I just want to draw your attention again to how collaborative this processes so there's several rounds of engagement and revision.

This is, again on your handout. So applying the toolkit is going to start after the city and residents have agreed on what things they want to measure. They've agreed on what the indicators are going to be included in the toolkits. That's when you start using your data sources, the city would start using its data sources, calculating equity scores, and issuing a report on how the city is doing in these dimensions that we're measuring. Notice, again, that there's a feedback process here. So a city publishes the report that then the public is going to weigh in on the report and give feedback on whether the indicators are relevant, are they telling us what we want to know? And then there's a process of revision potentially.

So this is where we would like to hear your ideas at this point. If you have thoughts about what inequities we want to measure in Detroit, if you have thoughts about, you know, just kind of your gut response or insights that you have from your lived experience. What kinds of disparities are relevant for our city? That is very different.

Before we turn the lights on, can we go back to the slide that has what the Racial Equity Toolkit can and can I do? Yes, yeah. Let's go back. Yes. So, on the side, we this is where they can't twist. They don't do yes, they say Storify inequities. That's exactly the purpose of the racial equity tool. So that is exactly what

it's for. I agree that it's going to use historical information to identify what those inequities are. So Oakland report, for example, starts with a history of inequities in the city of Oakland. But in order to fix them, you need funding you need buy in, you need. So what's happening in cities like I'm getting ahead of myself, but what's happening in cities like Oakland and Seattle, is you have executive orders. You have laws, you have cities, city departments, book clubs, where they're talking about equity on a daily basis, and that is what really makes this powerful. So just issuing a report as I'm sure you know, that can just fall flat and be dead and nothing. Okay?

I'll just say it, but that did not So that's okay. So the fix when we say that the Racial Equity Toolkit will not address fixing this broken and inequity, and fixing disparities, and I understand funding is needed for that, I understand that we need most of the resources that go with it. That is the purpose of a Racial Equity Toolkit. It is to address those inequities? Yes. identifying them. Yes. Why can we do that based on what we've seen historically done a great example, City of Detroit. Historically, we see what happens downtown Detroit was projects and development and I don't need anyone to weigh in and tell me what those thresholds have not been. We've been breached in a framework, framework plans and community, we know that, but let's just say focus on what they do and don't do, okay. Because at the end of the day, sometimes about what was coming through whatever the dollar amount is, will determine the threshold whether or not the CBO will go into play. We got that we know that. But right now to focus on the fact that say that it does not address historical inequities or disparities, that oh, that doesn't work doesn't change it. That's kind of true. We know, based on the city of Detroit, and how it showed up in the past, and who will teach it looks to galvanize and prosper. We know that the inequities exist, and that the disparities are not being addressed in our communities. So that right there needs to not be on that side. Because it wouldn't it Miss leads us to believe, well, if that's not going to fix it, that's not going to dress it. Why are we even doing

so maybe like? Like a dress, historic interviews,

I think not so much a dress because we address it every day on the news, we need to fix it. And we fix it by analogy that didn't exist. We have the history of it. We don't have to go far. We don't even have to get off. We don't go live in New York, we can look at what was done with him before do we can look at what was done district Detroit and even though the threshold hours ladder in this community, based on the way the city shows up, it has a preponderance of not been concerned about both the communities that the disparity, black and brown people fall on the shoreline. We can fix them because we have the historical data already correct. So

I think that the the worst case, I think that's where we are kind of hanging

on hold. We're fixing under that whole section what they don't do. That's misleading, that would make people believe what then what's the point of doing it? It looks like they don't do anything. Thank you. Let's don't change just

not doing so.

It's cool hidden. So we were looking at the word fit. And so it's not necessarily

I'm not saying the word fits what I'm looking at what it said when it says what it doesn't do.

So what we're saying is that the toolkit doesn't fix it. It identifies it gives us a pathway to address it with the resources that

people have questions. That's true, but I'm going to get your mind can have you take over the meat. I'm not taking up the

precious time. Question is the walker, what you're not going to do is quite

beginner. There

are people who've been living in this neighborhood for since the enactment. And so

we can go back and forth, but I'm still gonna get my ass. Okay, well, let me finish what I'm saying. Okay, I didn't interrupt you.

Is what the meeting is about. You're extremely disrespectful,

we have other people.

Okay, because you know what it was just because you don't like the challenge. It doesn't change the necessity of what I'm asking is, instead of us saying it doesn't fix it, when we put it under the category of it doesn't address it, it can't do it, that we mislead people to believe that the racial equity to equity token has no real governance. And that's not to be true. What I'm suggesting is based on what we know the history of how things have played out within this city without even going further, but this being the majority black city, and the nation, the largest majority black city, we can use what we have here already determined and say this. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, so thank you. So we know that that's what's needed. We know that we need to take that off of that site, because it's misleading to false and within the say that we don't have anything in place right now. That's not true either. We have a Racial Equity Toolkit. We've been pushing forward to say that it's not available to say we have no metrics for it. That's not true guidance. And all I'm doing this because It's question time is challenging the information that's being put here not challenging you as a person I'm not challenging the Civil Rights department. I'm challenging how it's presented a community because at some point, we have to stop it from continuing to go for

a black person I'm telling you right now

we have a question here. Oh, man.

I'm just trying to understand your point. And it sounds like you're saying the Equity Toolkit is just to identify the problem, and not actually.

So, so we actually said that, a part of this one of the goals is to use resources that align with what your find out in the Acme toolkit. So if you find out that there is a neighborhood that isn't getting the same response times for emergency services, you would know that that is something you need to address. So what I was saying what doesn't fix it, is that you need action after you find out the information.

Or the information going to open? Why are you not using the information that

we would if we were building an equity toolset for Detroit? We would start

the standard question.

We would use Detroit specific information, we would go to the census information, we'd go to county information for Detroit,

there are already toolkits already set up to say yes or no. Yes or no.

I think my my understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that existing toolkits have not been through a city wide public engagement process.

Was there other toolkit already done? Yeah.

I mean, it's either one way or the other for specific periods.

Okay. Yeah. So you already have data from individuals from that those different toolkits that are already start from Oakland, to use the information you're used

for computer. Those are examples of what's your job?

Why are you using your data from Detroit?

Because if we were building an Equity Toolkit for Detroit, we would ask you all, what indicators would you want to see for Detroit?

Why not do that instead of going to Oakland and then finding out what they're saying? And then why aren't you doing it here?

Everybody's asking. I'm doing deputy mayor best. Everybody's asking. I'm deputy mayor, Todd Benson. And so everybody's questions are definitely valid. And one of the reasons that the presentation is happening today for bright board is, of course, you get to the big meetings that we have here, homestead. This is the playbook for the bright more neighborhood. And so with that, as we go forward, we want to ensure that within the framework, if one of our meetings is brought forth, then we want to make sure that the equity in restaurants is broad enough, like we want to ensure that equities is embedded within the framework. If so, with the Master Plan, with the framework, this is a tool that will be invented specifically for this neighborhood, and based off the data for this neighborhood. And then based off also the various forms of data that you want measure. So that ultimately, when we're pitching it to weirdness investors, developers, etc, is a framework in the community's input is embedded so that they have a guide to go by. So then it's done, how the community wants to interfere with respect in way. So that's what that's what this is for in this isn't this right here. Is a these folks, right? People take their money. These folks right here in the city. We're going to embed this within it based off your input.

So the the toolkit you're talking about, is this going to be specific to the right for this city? Okay, so you have an equity tool, set help.

We're partnering with planning department following your lead. This is their processes to their project. I'm sorry, it's something that can Anyone that so we're working on with the planning department. And so what the planning department needs from us when it comes to implementing or using any type of equity approach. That's what we're here for where we are today and where it's going for them and a tool for you. And so that's where we are tonight. And we want to explain so when we start talking about equity, we sometimes called disparity, he's talking about some case, we're talking about maintenance, or whatever it may be whatever language that you're used to hearing that way that we're here as a partner for everybody, community, antecedent Detroit, who's moving this project of all.

The senses,

the six of them, right, more data to know what they want.

So this is very early on, like I said, we were invited to this conversation probably a couple months ago, we were at probably at the last step of meetings that you've had here. And we've been listening to what you've been saying. And so what we do is that we go back, we have additional meetings with the finance department, I think about the approach that we defined and absolutely put in stone as far as the approach that we're going to take, no, we're still in the planning phases. And we can't necessarily say this is the way it's going to be. But we are engaged, and we will continue to be engaged in SEO, most of all, first of all, that you are

still in the claim. So like there was

another? So what happens and what we don't do, we were just saying where we live, we don't want to necessarily make unnecessary expectations. But we can look as listening to the comments for the conversation, the wording and the language that has been used up here. Can we adjust it? Absolutely. Because we don't want to give anytime a patient of what we're the message that we're trying to deliver. And so you made a comment, and you're saying that it doesn't lead the way. So at the end of it, we're kind of on the same page as far as what we want as far as putting resources together to make sure those things are happening. I think we're both there. It's just a matter of how we explain the room reason. That's an easy thing.

To suggest when you're talking about information from residences to ask

people to actually, we needed to be on

the reservation for what the person said to us. City in Detroit is our CGI does God know where the houses are at? I think there's a lot of people who are passionate about the community, they have a right to be passionate about the community. I think that you probably will get more succinct information that you actually reached out to each individual. Right Now. These forms are great to educate people about wow, I want to do that I don't get enough information from your residents unless you actually do

it. And so again, folks, it's a planning department, their outreach and recommendations and our efforts to really make sure that many members, community members have the right words.

And I just want to echo what she said, you know, you're absolutely correct. And one of the great things about this for us that appear, they brought to our attention that hey, with the framework, we want equity, the toolkit to be embedded in the framework in the master plan, and what's going to happen and right there. Let's face it, this community is an upcoming community. And so folks are looking at right for for all round. So this is your opportunity to say as residents when when developers come because you want to develop what you wanted to come up with that you wanted to come in. So this is the opportunity where you're invited at the very beginning to really determine with the slave the master plan. Let's, let's play out a

word. What other words could you use for fix?

So say that one more time?

Let's,

let's play with word. Okay. What other words could you have

used read that paper instead of

me fix fix and how people determine this beat

that cost of conflict.

So you put me on the spot. So I don't I don't know. We've come a long way. I don't necessarily.

I just felt it wasn't the practice work. This wasn't how it was for the category was built into that and what I

can do within it. So

we can acknowledge what it does. What it does is acknowledge and identify and help us kind of run

out here does that

right Hear, and then when?

The word is

correct. That's exactly. So that's the message we're trying to convey. But the community's interpretation is

that the interpretation that the citizen are receiving from that word is causing conflict, and they're not seeing the

whole thing. So what other words could be

used? instead?

I'm acknowledging that and so we'll go back. And as we rewrite this, and we'll make sure that as best possible that is not as on the say, the interpretation of it isn't necessary, we are not trying to convey to you Oh.

My question is addressed to the fact that there are other equity that are arguing put in place in the city. Why are we choosing Oakland for our data? Why not? Are we using the community in our own city?

We aren't using Oakland for data we were. We aren't using own for data, we were showing you an example of

why did you do to city of Detroit,

the city of Detroit have different neighborhoods?

Compare

English village, or Palmer park with Brian more,

there are a separate thing, but I'm sure they have the data or that they

behave that

way. And they don't take the insurance if

it's gonna be a warning or

not. So now without going through right now, that's just not true. We could have you rotated doesn't have to be based on a naturalist. We've seen development doc Florida the same, we have to integrate, right. So let's do that. If we choose to pay, well, we don't really use those indicators for Neighborhood Development. That's what you just said. But let's not say we don't have the data available. Today, this will surely be available. As she continues to say, excuse me, you don't have any problem or repeat the same thing. So you're not going to cut me off. Right. So what I'm going to say is, we do have the database. Also, I never thought you understood me to say, I'm not saying this about that sticking in about your job. And I'm saying the public. Originally, the token, a racial equity token, mostly surely can resolve in equity. And that's the purpose of the Racial Equity Toolkit

for my question will be using that data. But if you don't manage to complete data, ultimately, like the

rest, what do you mean a complete data? Okay.

What?

We went and got some of the information that correct, Melissa's

Sure. This is your online conversation. Okay.

We have not been able to open.

Okay, so what is the issue

of information that we

make no conclusion. They just they shouldn't report themselves. Okay. Otherwise, the developments and

they're using that example.

I was assuming

we were using open up rapid development attention to what does it look like in some of the countries that they use and then move up but that's all right away?

Why can you not use other communities that are that have this already set up? And

I'm gonna tell you that right now they don't. They finally break it down. We got to the top

the opportunity, the other equity programs that are already set up in your data for coming

up. So we just we took an example of an establishing recognize, to pick it up and up develop and another municipality. And that's the only reason he didn't use it our company that we use, how many racial equity to process. So I wouldn't say racial equity. But as far as I would say, equity. We have this example. We didn't talk to the attorney. What were some of the things as far as neighborhoods. And so that's just one example. So

How many total?

So I think what I'm hearing is, while we are at least throwing that exam, and not to say that it doesn't exist, that we can't show it. That's the question today. It sounds like it didn't bring it today.

Wow. Why? Why are we going out?

We actually put the kids away

What the hell? What are we looking to get out of this information? That's the main thing. What are we trying to get out of this right now? Because we can continue to debate about that. What are we trying to get out of this community?

Have these issues in the city of Detroit, whether it's the borderline in those communities, or handled directly in our community? There's just been like, more down the street for me. I've been here for six years, they felt like our house for $200,000. Okay, and over and over there just selling a house for $10,000. Okay, so there are different differences. But we still have the same issue. Right? Okay. So what I'm saying is talking about

equity in the community, we know what's wrong. We already know what's wrong, we already know what's wrong. And right now.

They're actually going down and forth, back and forth on Grand River, homeless, pushing their car.

metrics for a

really, we have to have this massive disparities, we need the metrics, data, because they already exist. And why? Why are we collecting that? Which goes back to what we asked

why don't we collected the data? Or what happened

with what happened on it today?

Because I think there's three different parts when

we say the framework has never been used it the question begs to be asked, is it not being used as if you could get chosen not to use it? Or is it because of other reasons? Because clearly, as Franklin says, you

may have been able, we will say that don't care about when That's totally what has been. But what I'm saying is, yeah,

we're here. Now,

let me say this, because you know, we're here. I don't know why it's so hard for us to get. vailable here just gave us a perfect example of the metrics, we need to put those in and say, this is this is what we see happening. If you're saying, based on what I believe what you're saying, ma'am, is when you have your sample, we need community input, we got it already. The city has the data, you don't need us, you don't need to knock on the vice chair, you don't even need us to take the lead the data is available by virtue of the fact that the life is sold out. That was a one on one block two blocks over it was over 10,000 That's the public information that's made available, don't need to knock on doors for that. You just need God to capture that and to put into and build that into the toolkit that we need to represent. community doesn't have to be that kind of football player doesn't have to be a neighborhood specifically. And you're not even saying that I just keep pushing me off. I want to make sure that when you I have a wife intimidation factor,

I just want her to have a board. But I just want everybody to follow the people I'm writing you shouldn't just

want to get all your

microphone minimum. So he's really just Oh, every time I try to

run the fire department, you know my baby Petrobras?

The lack of

buckets that we should be discussing right now.

What are we talking about?

What I'm saying is that's what people want to talk about. Let's talk about the bucket. We can criticize.

Constructive criticism if you just want to get better

and better Something

that I've asked him. Because he's showing examples of Oakland, where you should be showing exactly what the city of Detroit, you have to test it, you already know how many runs, and everything that is done in the city, and the community you already know. And you any easy for you to be able to get that information I

felt like they have to be one of the reasons 50 typically would never do doing a presentation that were asked all the time, is what other cities need to benchmark. And so when they use that term, they'll be like, did you look at safety? When did you look at these other cities. And so when you look at cities that have Equity Toolkit, those are some of the other cities. And so even when I put together our model is called community planners and mentioned, I looked at other cities, and I actually traveled to other cities. And guess what I found, I found walls and so they're designed to be a poker hands. And being I could tell a community intervention program, specifically to the city of Detroit that's better than theirs. But I was only able to hit matter, based off of looking at what they have. So that you so that we can put in that little circle. And so to your point, we can do as we looked at that, and we will get what really was the why. And we are able to choose what you all want. So that at the end of the day, is really for this community by this community so that when you invite developers in, you can show them the framework of this is what the community wants. So I'm agreeing with you, all I'm saying is, as we can show that, and we can come back and show what you want as well. This is your opportunity, even when we talk about the words with the word space, that can be a myth. What is your suggestion? This is for you all?

Realistic, trouble working? You don't have all the answers. Right. Now, so I've got Rachel.

And then I have this gentleman here.

And I acknowledge

him, and he did a

great job, and then don't have children here. And then if you want to

about your methods, just because

you're asking the community to identify the

right one area, which it's a massive geographic area for Detroit, like we're much bigger than the majority of the neighborhoods just right for

Boston, or the house.

All of the other places that are much more densely populated.

So as you're getting this

information, this is statistics, you're doing percentages of the overall population, this area, how much of that is actually going to represent in the end, what Brightwork

isn't just the regular community.

out but the bright orange area, and he knows that there's an activity in this area is radically different from what's there. So power is going to make sure that we're not marginalizing support. And so, so what parks department, maybe we will do something like this. They did a series of surveys, and then they did focus groups. So it wouldn't just be localized. It would be broader than that. That's kind of what we're trying to say is we're we're trying to give you a picture of what this is, but we're not we can't do it like now. I understand what it is. But I'm saying that there's 25,000 People in the spring work area. The majority of that is not actually most of that is milagrow ELIZA house passwords that are much more difficult. So we're gonna have a louder voice in terms of what kind of indicators matters. And that is going to marginalize the people of break more or less, we're not going to see accurate indicators

together as a game plan, so

how are you going to account for that? In your data collection, to make sure that our indicators that we care about are what you are actually looking at. So that is a really legitimate concern. And there are ways of collecting for that specifically where you can assign weights to things. So, so that's where, like, we're not ready to jump into this right now. But if we did, that is something we would think about. And that's why this beginning process of hearing these perspectives is so important, so that we could do something like that we actually start to make sure that our numbers everybody

understand? Absolutely.

Hey, y'all, I was late. Sorry about that. But I'm confused on this. What they do and what they don't do. The first one says address historical inequities. So what we'll do is address that historical inequity, but you won't pick

up the field number two, Councilman wears channel 10. All this noise we need to understand you told us that we've arrived at all our meetings so we can be recorded.

And three, don't come over here no more where everybody else's data, bring our data. And we do not present any other data from another city. We not like that. They got like us. We not like them. You different over here. Right? More. So yeah,

y'all, this is fun, because that's where it originated from.

You represent. So to answer your first question, yes. So we have a discussion. And so we realized that the way that we worded it is not is not being interpreted the way we need to so we want to face so let's just answer me right

now. Okay, so are you or are you not going to address the historical inequities? Yes, that are happening and right more mainly, John O'Brien and the 300 Plus houses

house will be implementing how they dress so

I was first in the

housing department is going to answer that in theory Okay. nation's

president Edward Chang tn

you ministration. Deal.

Where skills me deal were throwing it to you? Services

was not available tonight? Because there was a press conference.

I want to address all

right, write it down so that we can make sure that the minutes and the minimums are

we need make sure that SoundScan is here at all time. So good job.

You know,

what's up do a lot of time. And I think

one of our biggest concerns is y'all can ask a million questions, y'all can collect all the data owner, if no changes are going to be implemented. What is the point? People

say the 10 is

less than, say this absolute actually implement changes,

and limitation of whatever we have to offer information from you all the steps, you want to go, you want to dress tension, I

guess, I guess, to a certain extent, though, we have to be, I guess, somewhat reasonable. So for instance, if the community says, again, we have inequities in affordable housing, and we want to see more, and statistically, they show that there's a need of 5000 affordable housing units. So then you get one development that does three units, and another new development around the GSI. That gets another 100 units, you're still 4000 units away. I guess the goal of this is to identify and then take little steps to get, but you're not going to be able to within one plan within one generation, increase the disparities of black wealth, the disparities of black encoding of the disparities of black homeownership, the disparities of affordable housing, we're not going to go I guess my point is, we can start to take Denson and I think that's the goal of this is to try to take little steps

backward and so that that didn't answer my question. My question is to use your example, for about 4000

juniors, you don't need to force 1000 units.

One development of Tokyo Colombia and develop another company where's the racial equity implemented? Is that plan based on your design? So where is Manchester say, okay, all the black people here won't single family home, that's not creating to me. Any action based on what we want is to say we don't do your job. That's what y'all want. We're gonna build your single family home, and is not creating

a, you know, addressing

addressing the overall issue. If you guys aren't just saying we don't get a developer from over here to build these 4000 houses, and stuff like that, that's just asking us a bunch of questions. And I don't like that we come to these meetings, and you're asked us a bunch of questions. And it's not fair,

Mr. Walker, to be the clip, but this is where Cheryl was what we want from you. And you're starting to get to the point, you're saying almost in a certain way, Dave, one of the indicators that we would like to see is that black developers be involved in the development of the affordable housing. The business

is not just where are my question to you is, how are you guys going to make sure the things that everybody is asking for when

it when it comes to

the equity advocates? How are you guys going to implement that to make sure that you know, whatever these members of the community are looking to see happen? Not just ask them a bunch of questions about what they want to see happen. What's it see those things?

All we can do is shoreland. So for instance, if there's a large GSI project, and somebody says do, you would like to see is that the people working on that be at least 40% African American, that's like, Okay, let's go ahead. And let's see if we can try and provisional contract. All of these things, you got to get to tell us what indicators you want us to look at. And then we can try, but nobody can promise you that we're going to make it happen. All.

The benefits agreements do make that promise it has evolved to that's the purpose of it. Will say get up that there's so many people, and so many black developers, so much has to come from this man. So many people in the community have to get this in exchange for that. That's the premise of it. And they can be held and kept. Oh, you know, father, but don't say that it can't be done, because that's not true. Isn't the chart? How about that. So that can be

done. Okay. It's sort of your next. That's the

right way to look at it toolkit, an approach. That's my approach, which you present, it is a type of a pro, one that your rights can not fix the inequities. Because it's only to identify and do it through a certain type of collective process that is a particular type of approach is to identify particular inequities, right to track them over time. There are other approaches, right, that don't necessarily require resources to build affordable housing. There are approaches like the one implemented in DC social equity action plan that says city planning departments have contributed to Rachel many, quite inequality over decades and decades in the decisions that they make. They can take steps to make sure they make different decisions that lead to equitable outcomes. That is something that the city can do right now. You know

what guys are I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, but they have done it with the marijuana legislation. But because as members of the CDC, we were allow social equity applications, which the action they took, it gave us discounts on purchasing a license, again, was discount of purchasing a facility. So that is absolutely true. It has been implemented in this city with the marijuana ledger.

And our thanks to our councilman. Yes,

it has been in action was taken immediately, not in the future, to give us those discounts because of social inequity isn't that it's possible

on the show.

So this particular approach that you talked about is good. It's a good starting point. But it needs to be coupled with more action. Systemic, she's walked through by just for kids that do exist, that then put safeguards in place you have processes in place to transform the way processes work that actually fix structural racism, sexism or racism, because you make decisions differently or make decisions differently. It is the way in which planning is done the way in which, like, for example, the fact that we give away So much in tax incentives to billionaires is a practice that leads to racial inequality. And right, and so a practice that will address that immediately is to think about the impacts of it, of course, we can make good decisions, maybe we shouldn't be giving away $800 million to a billionaire that was from the school system.

Guys, great reporting, and they don't get there, the richest man in Michigan. So it is about looking at the practices itself that exacerbate inequality or faces in period. So so what? So that is that is you to present that particular model, I would respectfully ask that you go back and look at these other models.

So So can I respond to that? I

totally agree with him. So

Seattle, for example, they have a racial and social justice initiative. So this is just one piece of that. And that's why I don't want to go back to that contentious slide. But but it's, it's just part of it. So I'm agreeing with you. It's it. This could be part of A union A lot of initiatives. Like you said, you can do it by program. There's lots of things that you can do. You can deal with executive order, you can do ordinance amendments, you can do lots of different

specific toolkit, right at DDP development, right. So the approach we're talking about like litigation, which one was which one, but you assume that we are seeing planning experts that we understand how to design communities, right to get at inequities, and to achieve the type of space in place that will foster a certain type of attitude, right? I think someone who does know how to put there are subject matter experts who have studied this, what about the acumen that they bring to the space, that is what I'm talking about the ways in which a design is already in place designs are already in place they give you if you if you do develop new ideas, you close racial inequities, right? Because of a BSc in this literature, classes everything I'm talking about that type of approach. I

think I'm agreeing with you. And that's why I wanted to tell you some best practices examples up there. And I know that's contentious and upsetting people but I think I'm really

glad when I post what they said it only is that approach where you come in and do what you want, but less less, like make no change better dragonfly wisdom Okay, there are other ways to address one problem.

So competitive advantage and

back in

the day so, what are we going to do going forward with our

opportunity to speak to this issue?

out how to do it right, and establish a racial equity. Area voltage.

She said Weston, come

on with that, going

forward. We can get this

overnight, as we call it that, okay, we dealt with that we only hear about going forward from this point, now that we know that you had this What is it cramp or whatever?

How and where is

our opportunity to speak to that? How you want to address us? You got to do not use the metaphor.

So, you love me.

That's one of the things that Karina was what way I want to waste my time. No, no. I started working on programming an idea of how to move this forward with your voice into play. And so Anthony,

to me about my

day, so right now, so there has that there's a shortage of information that you all have shared airport fire department got it. And he was acquainted department for a while

while I was here with them, so how about today, I just want to I want to come to you.

So like I say, this is probably one of the second authority.

So now that we are you are when you're ready for when it comes to editing,

anything what happens is that you want. So now we meet with the planning department to find out, we find out what they enjoy the information that they receive

from you, because you are

waiting for some sort of in some fashion. So we have to identify and assess

why would we use that identify what is more to Tulsans about the Hakka toolkit, that's where we need to stop because you guys were kind of

related again, and apologize. But we need to know what's been what's, what's going on. And where we are currently,

we don't start there. When we start that process are very refined department

started from a couple months ago. And I just

want to let you know that we're going to bring in each department to talk to you see, all of them have triggered timelines, what we're going to execute cycle. See, at a certain point, we kind of have to establish what your schedule is, once we're done with the plan,

which will be in September, then jumping into

the WASD doing all of their stuff is all taking gold in September. So this talk is that we can set up another meeting with these guys to start talking about the implementation, some common dynamic, we're number

four,

what's my DWSD project will take until 2027 to get done a turkey logistic until 2028 DPW probably doesn't expect you to streets until 2026. So at a certain point, there's no money allocated for me. But he's not talking about what that people intention strategy might be. Can

you put that note over there? Yeah, so.

Just want to add everything

written down,

I do want to add some clarity. So you got to figure out everything that he was discussing as far as the other departments coming in. That's all part of the information navigating. So we talked about a few toolkits we talked about. And when it first talks about was EMS response time, whatever it may be, we can it will be proper for us to sit down and say this is what we're going to do. This is one of the developments. And we have been seeing you all engaged, we you guys have engaged with the various departments to identify and look at those particular areas. So that way you move on know when you want to tell us of what areas that how would you want to do it? That's what we were supposed to do.

So can we get the focus groups of staff? I

have no beginning I have not yet.

Why not? Why not HRP record. And he tries to listen to the DD scoring and what they want to do for economic development. I just need to hear some of the other stories. And then once you've got all that info, then we're going to sit down and we'll talk to you guys, again, real implementation. Each department is going to have a multi year implementation strategy. And this is just one department. Wait, so you really need

to be guiding each one of those things will

kind of stuck on earlier about nobody else has asked for an equity framework plan. And I'm remembering the very first meeting that we had when we sat down with you. And many people were sitting in this room asked to pause the process. Yep. So that we could dictate what the topics would be, I would say a framework. So to say that, I'm going to assume that in other neighborhoods, you are presenting the topics or the framework plan to those. So to say that nobody else has like, asked for equity. Ask people what they want to know.

So that's not a good example. Oh, when we did the wonderful Puerto Rican Plan A was 35,000 residents over the Green River was paying about 42,000 residents. In that process, what we're trying to do is hear everyone's voice. So from an 18 year old kid, the nine year old person and ask them what they want to see there may be things for each departments We do that consistently with each one. And so for grammar Northwest, they said, Hey, go for violin. And we got to the government's going up now. Some people say, Hey, what is your number three things that are happening because of the plans for wars, you're putting groups, they've got to pull that? How has knowledge? So I just want to mention to you because they can have some smoke, what

and I understand what I'm saying is that you set the agenda before you ever talk to us. And it's only X. equity, equity, equity, no fat weight. That was one of our topics.

So one of the main and I find it shocking to

see that is almost 80% African American, that equity is not part of your standard agenda.

Well, interestingly enough, anyway,

we get that all our

development that's happening in our three month plan are African American. Oh, a lot of government that is, our framework is affordable housing, a lot of the time. And I'm not talking about the 7.2 of downtown's without talking about work, you guys set the agenda for each department, and you say what you wanted from them. And we had a new one, he did that. And so at a certain point, we got to kick them up in here and say, Oh, we want to do

entrepreneurship, because that was a whole topic. That's what we're talking about following decision. You guys are also setting an agenda of what

we're setting an agenda to watch. And that's all it is

that we are able to avoid, and was at the very beginning of it so that we could we don't need you to come in and tell us what the agenda is.

We're not telling you we're given an opportunity to get your voice for each department what the location should be bring in btw, we

bring in a tourney guy who needs to know, as the West Side planning department, one person, maybe take that to your superiors and suggest that are now on everything as part of your standard discussions, and we wouldn't be in this department. So

no, this has been a good practice for us in Korea. But I do want to let you know.

more minutes of No, really

was was I mean, this goes outside of this framework. But Detroit is an incredibly behind the curve in terms of equity processes. And we see dc we see open seat cities all across the country may have city planning departments that have instituted right systemic transformative plans. What I mean, I certainly don't I don't understand this is something internally that should be should be happening, but to be able to do what is right, like, like

getting tax abatements to be there. That's where the Lakewood that was exactly what I

said. And the people that weren't down there look like us

we have I think you guys should understand that.

Detroit is the largest majority black city and you should have been the first city with a racial

equity well.

There are different types of approaches to achieving equity. There isn't a theoretical approach that centers blackness that says it considered blackness when you create a racial equity approach. You know, everybody who's black folks, for the most part, remind everybody that it was appropriate. And that's what I'm doing by being smart about being in in bringing these things to the table in the logic space. We don't know. And so it's evolved respect. This means like, like, oh, we went on the internet and grabbed something and here's the Racial Equity Toolkit like like, where's the experts? Like, where are the real experts in this area that know about racial equity and not even acknowledge

recommendations? Let's submit them. Because if it sounds too good Farmers are not hitting the market. So to provide the recommendation, we can sit here and talk philosophically, which may not be wrong about the overall situation in the city of Detroit. But we're here today to talk about Breitbart and this credit. So that's what I was trying to find out is that over the whole time, we'll make sure we get to the rooms when I'm saying we're here about this particular man today, that does not make you a fact that you will not that we should make sure that we double back. And we embed this now in everything we do moving forward.

But we can look back and change what we did not do without looking at where we are today, currently, and we're talking about the framework framework. And as mentioned by Rachel, if we don't do it right here, we're gonna still continue to have

we submitted the framework to the planning department, and it was everywhere I love to write email. But most assuredly we've submitted it time and time. Again, it's something we've done is here, but we did it from the very beginning. And in the thick of it isn't that we've just not done? Right more. Right words, and we've done it with every development in this city is not as if it hasn't been done. Now we can bring up all the sobriety because again, that's a skip Mastodon is no way. And I can't do that. But we submitted. So what Rachel was saying as wonderful as she did, we've said it over and over again. And I don't know why it's so hard when one person says it over. Because we've been saying, This is not something new. We've also asked for the no comeback that you we've asked for the plan to privately share back when we didn't know, we've asked for again, as we've asked for time in the past to be able to review that stuff. But every time then what happens is that we get to these big arguments, because it was we're just totally dismissed and just respected and continuing. So what we want to hear about Of course, no, you don't, you don't want to hear everybody's going on with their advice.

I want to hear the reason why this is because I asked for and I know

we're going for it right. So if we get stuck on all this other stuff, we don't get focus on what we're here for today.

I hear you put the blame on me. If we have not in the past, done what we're supposed to, I will take blame for that. They shared with me.

They show up. It doesn't change how the planning department shows up. Because the say that the plenty is for the planning department say well, three are just not good word. They should have been that word. Because we've been asked before we begin, you

have the deputy mayor that's here now. He was not here before. You have me here at every meeting. Now. I had several guests that would come in and it's different.

You got to respect that we're trying to course correct. And the reason why is that if I recall, when we set

the Racial Equity Toolkit, racial equity, Racial Equity Toolkit

what I'm saying here is, if you recall, it was

That's true. And where's it now? It's at the top okay.

Now, wait now because

and I'm not going to get a chance to get it. Right.

So So hat has planning and has Creo look at the tool that the PP submitted, had we've seen one model, right? Why is there no assessment and a bringing to the community? This could be used and this will be used? If

that is what you are asking

them. That's what we should be doing. But that has not been brought up. We can again, is that was requested from moving forward. Is that what everybody? Okay, because that's something that you're against, not at all. Okay, now, that's all about retention plan. That's what I'm gonna

start with looking at you. Because if they're saying, Oh, not at all, we're gonna send it directly to you, right, because we sent it to them, and he claimed to send it to you or to review the avatar that don't do that. We will watch your face. We send it to them, and they send it to you. With something with you.

Yes. Okay. Yeah. And then we put them in the document. Oh, what do you do? Okay,

so Joseph Oh, hello. Oh,

we had good good.

Sir, I see

he got, we sent it to you long time ago. I know, he said, but I'm gonna give you an email

directly to you. And so I just want to I just want to address one thing that you guys can bring in. This was just an introduction, it was not all encompassing, to introduce every single way to address any inequalities and disparities throughout the city. All right. This was simply an introduction. And that's all that we're trying to do.

And we're introducing ourselves well, but I do want to remind everyone, that each department potentially has a long implementation strategy. And once again, you have USD 2028 29. And 30. They're telling us 20.7 2030, DVD becoming a potential. What do you say when you said this? So each department has a long implementation strategy. And these guys might have the longest one for them to do this, right. So you know, it's just, it's a long stretch, it's not going to get done today or tomorrow, it's going to get done over time, a wall

may have medicine, or we can wait, we don't have this timeline. This has given us to talk about what we can do in the moment. Because we feel need to create files, we only want the slavers about it was a long time that we don't need to hear that right now. Because that really causes that that is that's a song.

So, you know, as in that, we have to be realistic. And we have to put that out there as well. What can we do? Quicker? What can we do a me we would be I would be disingenuous if I was lying, that we can do all of it for you know, compressing it, when I will have a funding source, in some will with what we're doing. We're making sure that we're protecting the right board, that with this framework, when people come in here for folks are looking,

we know the voting for the government, as expensive, who and how much tax abatements are going to be given away at the expense of one that we're working with Congress, right. But when we started talking about down the line, the Navy, the Bresnahan transit sections in this attack, the Navy has enough time to implement this ratio. That's why are we saying it's gonna take the 23 club, you got to get to see, and we know DWSD already don't don't show up correctly, and we stand for the housing excuses. Don't take the 2028. That's enough time. Now we know what the retrofit toolkit that we're presenting is based on outcomes of what's already been done. was an exam, the development of Detroit, Detroit do, we can go in and put in the numbers and say, okay, based on the numbers of what was given away, based on how many people receive one out of this, was this equitable? Was this racially equity. And we can come back and say, No, it was now the cost of development on the board. Now, I'm trying to hit off with the next disclaimer, it's gonna be, well, we can't use it, because there's no projects on the board. But we can base it on when you know, when he's when he prayed down the line, we're working on this, when he's working on that, we need to be able to utilize that tool now that they put into the trade, it's Tuesday, 20, whatever you have 2020 2020 handed down a lot, we need to be able to say in advance. This is what we know is going to happen. This is Charlotte, the story. This is what has happened with development. And this is how community has panned out. Based on that with this toolkit. We want to make sure that we have everything, all the metrics in place to alleviate a void as best as possible. Based on that, can we get something to say the least that that will be considered

and so that's reason number one, yesterday we took it moved it up and so we're all ears and just for the community so that you understand it that you know, like down town some of these decisions that we made. This has nothing to do with this. But when it comes to even the demolition program, we can turn out every single house in the city of Detroit already. We started out back when Mayor Duncan's calls get 45,000 We down to about 4000 Now, we ensure that we had smaller Mom and Pop African American small business, those Detroiters that got a chance to participate in the civil projects so that that money stayed in Detroit and went to Detroit as well. Another thing that I'm super proud of just to show up to how we think in equity is we know that we have far too many individuals who rent but would like to own a home because we want to housing prices. And we took $10,000, about five months ago in allocated that to downpayment assistance. We've taken 400 Detroit winters, he told you about the shadow paper. So now there are holes that he just opened up the downstream assistance program here. So I'll just throw out a couple of those examples just to show the intent. And so with the an approach, we're going to make sure that the racial equity to kids, and that is a part of the framework. And anything that we can consolidate, to compress that to belong, I would like to be able to turn these things in. So you want to have some small wins, and we'll have some medium wins. And we ultimately want to get to a point where we're having some, you know, some 100 million dollar deals to $300 million deal, right here to write more for you. Say,

I just want to make you qualify, we say, we're going to include the racial equity tool to get matters. And once again, what racial equity so good, and what metrics

and you all know, determine it. We've already

heard that from day one, we used to stop saying y'all because really, we ain't got to said nothing, nobody heard I've got a link back to what we say we will ask for a list of everything submitted. And we have yet to get that guy.

So then that is on the website of the notes of all the meetings that we do. But I do want to let you guys know, so we don't do because we don't have to you continue this infrastructure implementation strategy, or establish automation. So some of the departments are gonna start a little bit earlier. And then we'll try to have a nice start here.

Nobody uses DC either.

Going to review it. So we're reviewing, we haven't seen it show

it so download their version and then return to it. Oh.

So it's the same will be submitted during the future? I

hope. So that, okay.

Yeah, so we're meeting with the distributor how

we were, as the speakers was so

close down.

Also plenty of movies over that one is on the left. So

that everybody comes back.

You guys are sitting down to the side, where are you from the other side, it's

great for the hobby boy over and over and over and over again, I think this

is what you're going to be working on, we're going to work on for the week on

how we do it two weeks, etc. It's a totally economic development. And then the next two weeks XRP is going to come in and talk about housing and affordable housing in the new way forward. And then in two weeks, GST is going to talk about the progress on going on and on without to Congress. And then once we're done, we'll have all these input from there. And then each of the departments will start their implementation process. And then some of the departments will start a little bit earlier than others, some won't start for long. But Creo we're gonna see if we can get them started over in November of 2024. But once again, we don't know how long that process is going to take them to build that process. But we still know that they're going to take that communication particularly long, we

had to overcome it.

It was mentioned everybody close next week.

So we have to No, no, we're gonna

You're out.

Where are you calling these two weeks after we close? Oh, no, we're

not close. Okay. Okay, I want to thank everyone for their time. A lot of information here. And then we'll go ahead and just like the last week that we had about DPW streets, that is on the website, the notes are on the website where you guys will be looking at and we'll get even though some of the website recently

registered on the website today. So you should see all the different meetings that are set to go. Oh, HRP, the Detroit economic growth Corporation and McDonald's people and then parks and open space. It's on the website and I said the above everybody well, so hopefully I'm gonna get that in two weeks and I believe it's easier for somebody to we have a website

in mind, that's nice. Ionic framework

okay

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