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Shannon Tipton46min

Shannon Tipton

00:12

Music, Hello everyone, and welcome to another learning rebels, Coffee Chat, where all the cool L and D peeps hang out here. We discuss ideas, share experiences and stories about L and D specific topics. I'm Shannon Tipton, owner of learning rebels, where we strategically fix training that's broken and develop workplace learning that delivers desired business results. Well, it all started with the big question on the table. We encourage others to make learning a habit.

Shannon Tipton

00:43

Why is it, then, so hard for us to do the same? Here's the truth, we are inevitably the cobblers children, right? We take care of everyone else's learning needs and we neglect our own. Well, today we're flipping that script. We set ambitious goals back in January, but how many of us are actually making time for the learning moments that will help us achieve them? Now, whether you're secretly hoping for someone to pay you to learn, and aren't we all waiting for that, maybe you're struggling to protect that learning time that's on your calendar, or you're just looking for practical ways to build curiosity into your daily routine? Well, this chat, I guarantee, is going to be packed with ideas that you can start using immediately, no more being the last in the priority line. So without further ado. Let's get to it.

Shannon Tipton

01:47

Hey. So here we are. We are talking about creating a habit of learning for ourselves. We can talk about creating a habit of learning for our people. You know, we got another 10 months, you know, to talk about that. But what I would love to do is talk about, how are we building a habit of learning for ourselves? What does it take? Right? Because we are inevitably the cobblers children, right? You know, we we take care of everybody else, and we fail to take care of ourselves. And now we need to think about it as we're in the beginning of the year, somewhat in the beginning of the year, and in January, you wrote your goals. And now we want to make sure that those goals actually are successful for you, and part of doing that is to make sure that you are incorporating learning moments, and you're making a habit of building those learning moments so that you can make your goals actually come to fruition, and we have to make time for that. And so I want to have this discussion today about how we can how we can do this better. What you're currently doing, what sort of tips can you share with the group? And really, how can we move forward and think differently about building a habit of learning, right? So maybe you guys have some different ideas. I'm sure you do. You guys always have great ideas, and that's what brings us all together. And thank you, Jason for sharing that playlist with us. So if you like the music that you heard coming on in Jason built that playlist for me for Groundhogs Day last year, and I listen to it all the time. It's actually one of my most favorite playlists. So, you know, well done, Jason, so he's shared his playlist there in the chat. Thank you. All right, yesterday, I sent out the email that had the it was a little guidebook about building a habit of learning. The week before, I sent you a little checklist about building a habit of learning. So hopefully you're seeing the trend here that I really want you all to build habit of learning. And we've got, we've got tips and ideas for that and and so I would love to hear from you when you think about building a habit of learning or having a habit of learning. What does that mean for you? What do you think of when you think about building a habit of learning? Do you think of it as being pressure? Do you think of it as being fun? Do you think about it as Yes, please. More of that. What's What are your thoughts or feelings about building a habit of learning? I wish I could get paid to do it, because I love it.

Shannon Tipton

04:52

I'm with you. I wish I could get paid for it. Leslie, you know I have to do it to keep my juices flowing. So I don't care.

Leslie

05:00

What's happening to me during the week? I will definitely spend at least two to three hours doing something. Well, that's a lot of time. Is that over the course of a week? Yeah. And so how do you make that happen? That's a long time to dedicate, and I appreciate that. So how do you make that happen? It goes on the schedule, right? So you are every Friday don't mess with me. You know, Cassie labor is every time she is at 8am Pacific Time. So, you know, it's just my Friday morning thing. Don't mess with me. And then if I'm doing some heavy duty projects, or, you know, that horrible PowerPoint situation, then I will stop, and I'll I'll go, Okay, let me go find something, and I'll just pick a topic and just go check it out. I love it, and I think that's key, right? We need to schedule that in. And that was part of the tips that I put together. It seems obvious, and we say it all the time. We tell it to the people within our organizations. You know that Jose, like Jose, says blocking off time as a strategy, yet we failed to do it, and we put it into our calendars, but it's the first thing that goes off of our calendars when somebody asks for a meeting, you know, so it's hard to stay dedicated to it. Bruce, what are your thoughts? Let them see if you can tie it to an active project that makes it a lot easier to dedicate the time or to not remove it from your calendar, saying, If I learn this, it's going to make this go much better. I like that. So can you give me an example? Right now, I'm doing some work on a with a client for on AI, and they want to go into kind of re rewrite their website with kind of a common voice and things like that. So I'm taking some trainings of how to catalog or use AI to go through a website, rewrite articles, help create blog posts, how to create, take the content, convert into an ebook, so do the things the customer wants to do.

Leslie

06:58

I think that's a great idea. And that goes to, I think one of the things that was discussed in the guidebook, which we talked about habit stacking, you know, in the guidebook. And to be honest, I'm not very good at that myself. So when I was looking at tips for how we can make learning a real habit for us, and the idea of habit stacking came along, I was like, I need to dust off this idea, you know, because I really don't do that very well myself. So I appreciate the Example, Bruce, because I think, yeah, for a lot of us, where we're trying to eke out every moment of the day, if you can incorporate it into something else that you're already currently doing, I think that's a wonderful idea. Andrew, Hi, Andrew, habits of reflection is a huge thing that I've tried to do. Just I don't want to say, well, in life, right? You get done with a meeting. Did it go well? What went well? What didn't go so well? What? What was it that brought it to not go so well? Or, what was it that brought it to go, go? Well, I literally did this. I'm trying to show my daughter how to make sourdough bread. She I call her my apprentice breadsmith. And

Andrew

08:11

the best thing about making mistakes in the kitchen is you get to eat your mistakes. So, you know. But it didn't go 100% well. It was fine. It tasted fine, but we're looking at it and kind of poking it and things like that. We went, sat down on the couch, and I was like, So what went well, oh, it tastes great. Okay, good. Well, I mean, if that's our bar, we're good. But okay, it wasn't exactly what you wanted. What, what? How would you describe that? And was there something that you know you did, that maybe you missed a step, or you did things. She's like, yeah, I forgot to do the thing. And and it was just like, helpful to talk through, and it was open. And I wasn't like, you messed up, right? It was more like us talking about it. And the next time she did it, she didn't make the mistake because we talked about it, but we took advantage of it right away after it happened. And so I count that is learning, yeah, and I really love the idea of having a journal of some sort. Either it's a learning journal, you call it what you will write a learning journal. It could be a journal for your, you know, experimentations. You know, we tried this. We tried this type of course, we tried this type of video. It didn't work, or we tried this or that, and it didn't work, or or, as Andrew said, it's capturing those reflective moments. And what's great for me, especially in this context, and what also could work for you, is I get the transcripts from all of this, and you guys get the transcripts from all of this. And not only do you get the transcripts, you get a summary of the transcript, you know, so you could take that summary and go back and think what were the key moments that maybe I missed,

Andrew

09:59

you know, for whatever.

Andrew

10:00

A reason. Maybe I was away from my desk for a second and something came up and I missed it, or maybe there was an idea that you really wanted to capture. So some of the resources that you get that can help you with with journaling your ideas are the summary, the transcript, and we also give you a copy of the chat. So you have information that falls into the chat where people share ideas or links, etc. And so when you think just about this space in particular, this coffee chat space there, there are ways that you can help nudge your memory or or make a list of action items, right? So I think that having that learning journal is really a good idea, you know, in whatever way you know. So if you've got a, I don't know, does anyone got a special note taking app that they like personally, I just use, you know, Apple notes. I don't have a special app for that, but I'm sure that there is one note. Yep, put it directly into one note.

Andrew

11:04

Put it into your tablet. I'm a paper Yeah, yeah. Like,

Andrew

11:09

I've got notebooks. I've got notebooks on my notebooks. I've got my notebook, and

Andrew

11:15

I'm a bullet journal guy. And I write out the page numbers so that I can go back and find it later, and I try to keep the table of context up to, oh, you are way more organized than I am for that. Otherwise, it's worthless. I've got journals. I could show you them all, and they're worthless. I can't find anything because I didn't paginate, I didn't make a table of contents, and so I had to get into that habit. Otherwise, what's the point? That's a that's a great idea. I use sticky notes sometimes, you know, to designate, but I also have different notebooks for different topics, you know. So that way I can, I've got my coffee chat notes, and it's gonna sound ridiculous. I've got coffee chat notes. I have, like, when I get a new client, I start a new notebook, and so I've got that way. My notes don't too much intermingle, although I will be flipping through something. I'm like, how did that note end up there? It must have been something quick, but, you know, but I love the idea Erica. So I'm a learning Rebel, and I do the coffee chats, and I've done the learn something new, and we have this amazing resource, and you allow us to be able to pull out from the archives, you know, depending on the the membership level that we have. And I was sitting here, and I was, I mean, I'm looking at your, well, the checklist, or the, you know, the 10 top actions, and I was recognizing something that maybe isn't on here. What about the things that we do to make sure that we grab our learning resources? So like, I'm sitting here and I'm like, I've got all this amazing content that I have access to in learning rebels, and yet I have not created necessarily habit to make sure, like, Oh, if there's this program that I'm a part of, and it has resources that I have access to to, like, make a habit to go there, right? So because we're talking about, sometimes a lot of things can be bifurcated, we're talking about our different notebooks, and I think this goes back, and this is probably not the topic for today, right? Shannon, but it's like, how do we find, like, the one filing system that rolls them all so that when we're like, hey, there was that thing that I attended, that that person said, That thing about that other thing, and to be able to then pull it up and then recall that information, or to be able to do like a just in time learning moment with it, that's, you know, that's a really good point. And what Erica speaks of is that we do have the learning rebels community, and within the community, all of the coffee chat resources are there. That's part of the membership fee that you pay. So you've got two weeks. Amanda sends you an email after this is completed with all of the resources, and those resources go up on the website, and it's good for two weeks until the next Coffee Chat and those resources get replaced. However, we have an archive of Coffee Chat resources within the community, and you know, if you have a membership, then that's one way to find curated items, you know, through the search feature. But you're right. If you're going to put those notes or those reflective notes, as Andrew said, If you can't find them, they're worthless, right? If you can't find the information, it's not going to do you any good. So how do we get better at that? And maybe it's time to bring Mike Taylor back for a little bit, right? And talk about curation techniques. Again, with us, we've had the conversation before, but I think it's always a good one to revisit. And you never know he might have some, you know, really great new ideas as to how we can curate our information, you know. But I think that's a good reminder, definitely a good reminder, you know. So what?

Shannon Tipton

15:00

Other techniques are you using? So we've got, we're scheduling, we're trying to create those reflective habits. You're joining this. This is something, right? So this is one hour every other week. So if this needs to be part of your win list, you know, so pat yourselves on the back for being here, because there's so many good ideas that you all have out of this. It's more than just something, it's a little something.

Shannon Tipton

15:30

Something. Are individuals that I stay connected with that are in the same space. And so again, when you're talking about like community building, or when we're in a space like this to share, and that helps us to continue to move the fuzzy gray matter up here. I've recently tried to adopt an idea of reaching out to those individuals. I think that's also another thing that we can do is that if you do find synergy, like, kind of connecting it to Bruce, so if we talk about habit stacking here, so, like, if you're on a particular project, and let's say, you know, and Bruce is doing some some learning on AI, and then if you knew that somebody, like, in coffee, a coffee chat was like, really going deep in AI, like, maybe then what Bruce would be able to do would be like, hey, you know, could we schedule A standing get together virtually, and ask for help with between each other based on maybe some of the projects or some of the things that are coming up. And so instead of it just allowing it to be a one off, see if you can help to create a recurring engagement where then you're sharing and problem solving or iterating together. I love that. It's It's remarkable how little that happens. At least in my world. Whenever I host a workshop of any kind, I always tell people connect with me on LinkedIn, not just because I want numbers, you know, ticking off my LinkedIn connections, but because I want you to genuinely come to me if you have ideas or questions or follow ups about whatever topic it is that we're discussing. And I get very little response out of that. And I think it's because maybe people think that I'm not serious about it, that maybe I'm just, you know, just saying that to be nice. But you I hope most of you know that if you come to me with questions or ideas or what have you, that I respond to those, you know, I want to know if you've got ideas, I want to know about it. If you have questions, I want to be able to help you with it, you know. So I would encourage that. So whatever Eric has, you know, said, there, you know, go and find somebody. Go find someone who you feel might have a shared interest, you know, and build that knowledge up. I think that's a great idea.

Shannon Tipton

17:58

And I noticed Connie's question in the chat about, is there a checklist for quick reflection questions that I can post on my computer? So it's right there. I love that question, and I would love for us to tackle that real quick. Let's do that. So what sort of reflection questions do you ask yourself put that into the chat. And Andrew did put um responded to that, and I thought that was great. What his response? I had never tried that before. Square, Triangle, circle, oh, yes, I see that. I love that, too. So real quick into the chat. So what kind of reflection questions can you ask yourself?

Shannon Tipton

18:41

How can I apply what I just learned?

Connie

18:43

I was gonna say Victoria. Just noted, what do I want to try? That's a good one, yep, because sometimes I forget to try. Actually try whatever I learned, right?

Victoria

18:53

How do I apply it? How do I try it? What were my emotional responses during the experience? I think that's a great question. I don't think I've ever asked myself that, did I feel excited? Did I feel curious? Did I feel frustrated? You know, what? What was it? Who else needs to know about this? I love that question. Who else do I know that is interested in this? I like that. Bruce, okay, right? Because one of the items that we talked about there was, you know, a teach pack, right? So the old, tried and true Teach Back

Shannon Tipton

19:24

a takeaway from this session, I'm going to create my own template, a template in One Note that then I can use. And I said it will probably include, like, what are my key takeaways? Where can I learn more? How might I apply this. Who else would benefit from learning about it? Well,

Shannon Tipton

19:43

that's good. That's a great idea. Why did I think of that? That's a great idea. I love it. You

Shannon Tipton

19:51

don't need to think about everything. That's why you created this community.

Shannon Tipton

19:57

Maureen for the Mic drop. I. Absolutely. I love that idea. That's such a great idea, I'm gonna write it down, and then hopefully you create it and you send it to me. Okay, all right. And then, as far as teach paths go, I noticed Jessica's comment from earlier about meeting with the team to go over learning items, you know. So I would love for you to share more about what what's that all about?

Shannon Tipton

20:24

Yeah, so we just started this, and we've only had one, and we're going to have another one coming up soon this month, and we have kind of, like, three mini departments inside of our bigger department. And so we met last month with just the instructional designers, and we just got to, like, pick something we wanted to share that we've been working on and get feedback or ask questions, or just hear, like, job well done, and like, learn from each other. And it was amazing. It was a full hour, and we all walked away from it like, Wow. This was a really great addition. I hope we keep doing this, because there's not a lot of time to have just that unstructured feedback sessions, or sharing sessions, sharing out sessions. So it was really powerful. And I really enjoyed it. I

Shannon Tipton

21:09

love that, and I love that you do it separately, because sometimes people or managers will put it all in the same meeting, right? So we're going to talk about action item 123, and then we're going to squeeze in like, 15 minutes of what did you learn today, and then, you know, move on. And you really don't have a chance to gain anything from that. You don't have a chance to ask questions or do follow ups. So I think that that's that's really special, that you guys do that, and that's a great opportunity for those teach bags, you know, we're going to give you five minutes, and it goes to that, to what Douglas put into the chat, that, what I've heard this before, watch one, do one, teach one, right? And so you can, you have that sort of little, itty bitty structure, you know, that you can help your team follow. So I think that's always that's always a good thing to have, okay, and asking for a reflection immediately does not give me time to think that's very true, you know. So I think with the journaling, this helps those of you who are deeper thinkers not to say that the rest of us aren't deeper thinkers, but some of some of you like to say, does that inadvertently exclude Doug? Doug, you're, you're a quick thinker. Doug is a quick thinker. He is, but we all know we got those people in in our training sessions, right, who don't say anything because they're processing. That's me, right? Yeah, so some people take time to process and having that learning journal helps with people who like to process information. You write it down and you have an opportunity to process it. And those of us who are are more shoot from the hip, but also helps us to go back and think about, Oh, I thought about this so quickly. I didn't really stay on it long enough to see whether or not it had meaning or what to do with it, right? And I think those are two different ways of thinking about journaling and how it can benefit you. And Stella, you started reading your books again. Started reading L, D books again. The Trusted learning advisor. Oh, I love that. Yeah.

Stella

23:33

I think it's all all about the mindset, especially the the trusted learning advisor. They always say, you are not an order taker. You work for the business. So I really apply this, and I get lots of ideas for my daily business. So I read the book, and then I apply these three things. And it works very well. Yeah, that's

Shannon Tipton

23:56

great. And I think you could do that. You don't have to read the whole book, right? Stella, do you go through the book in this like chapter by chapter, you write down your ideas. How do you how do you manage that? I

Stella

24:06

read it in my in my bed or on the sofa, and then I use highlighter, and at the end I write down some handwritten notes, and I really apply this. So, yeah, try to work smarter, not harder. Yes, yes. A very, very good book. And sometimes you you have so many resources that are in books and systematically ordered, so that's that's a good starting point,

Shannon Tipton

24:34

right? Take advantage of it. And I think a lot of books are inherently asking you, you know, to think about the concepts that they're sharing, the concepts that are being applied. I love that. So it's not necessarily Okay. I've read the book, but now, what do you got to do about it, you know? So how are you now going to take action? And I think it's, it's a good coupling, right? So if you read. Something. And then you take the guidebook and say, Okay, what? What did I read that I can apply to one of these things? Can I do a teach back? Should I be journaling about this? You know, should I be sharing this with a buddy or something? Right? So you can take those two things and make them work together. I think that's a great idea. And then, Victoria, first hour of the work day is dedicated to your own learning. The first hour every day.

Shannon Tipton

25:27

Victoria, wow, yeah, every work day, I will say

Shannon Tipton

25:31

every work day.

Shannon Tipton

25:34

Weekends, I was like, I give myself a little bit of a

Shannon Tipton

25:39

break. So what does that look like for you? What does what does that structure look like for you? So I

Victoria

25:44

get, like, the daily HBr digest, and so that's probably one of the first things that I read. And then, yeah, I take my first hour, I sip my coffee, have breakfast, and kind of go through my standard things that I like to read. So the hbrs, the ATD things, and then other things that just collect because I it's hard to stay on top of all of it, yeah, and just kind of highlight I have a you snag it a lot, to capture paragraphs or things that I want to refer back to, and to try to prioritize that and then figure out, Okay, now, what can I do with this? Is this something that is this a springboard for some shared learning, for the overall organization, or do I want to share this with someone else? Or what does this mean? Is this going to help me move closer for work strategy, kind of all those things. Yeah,

Shannon Tipton

26:28

and I love that you do that. I get that same HBr. You and I, I love, I love me a good HBr stuff. You know, have all their little books and everything. Yep, and I don't, you do better than I do. I don't take a full hour, I take a half an hour over my coffee, you know, to try to get through those newsletters. But I also find that what I've done this year, and I don't know about you, is that I've been weeding the newsletters that I feel are really helping me and those that are not, you know. So I have found myself unsubscribing to some that probably at some point I thought were helpful, and then just trying to keep my inbox tighter so that way I'm focusing on the things that I want to focus on. Yeah, that's great,

Victoria

27:14

because I think that's half the battle is we're just inundated with information, and it's easy to get overwhelmed. So prioritizing the ones that you know give you the most value is the smart way to go.

Shannon Tipton

27:24

Yeah, and I try not to feel so whenever I send a newsletter out, of course, my newsletter service, you know, has all that data, and they tell me, you know, all the unsubscribes and all of that. So I try not to feel offended when I get, you know, people who unsubscribe from my newsletter, but I understand that I'm not for everybody, and maybe the information that I'm sharing isn't important to them at that moment, you know, but I think it's important that you make those judgment calls, and I love that you're dedicating time to yourself for that so important. It also goes to the area in the guidebook where I talk about micro learning. Micro learn during downtime. I've always have kind of done this, or try to when I have a moment, let's watch a video, or try not to fall down a rabbit hole, you know, that kind of thing. But really, who drove this home for me was Chris cola Donato, when she was with us, and she's talking about being connected, you know, making good use of your time. And she said something during one of those times that she was with us about, are you just Doom scrolling? Are you just endlessly scrolling so while you're in the line at the grocery store or whatever? I think her example was, if you're sitting at the DMV, are you just scrolling through Instagram or Facebook or something like that when you could be, you know, reading something from HBr or reading something from ATD or what have you? You know, it's making better time, making better use of those micro times. And I think mentally, it's better for us. Yeah, take full advantage of times when video, video is rendering right exactly, oh my gosh. It says it's going to take 20 minutes. I better find something to read. I

Shannon Tipton

29:11

have a question for Victoria. You know, I do that too. As far as having I have a lot of emails that I read, that I've signed up to and things like that. But where do you work on applying that or reflecting on that? That's where I I just have constant input, and I find that I'm not it's really hard for me to figure out where to output that

Shannon Tipton

29:32

great question. I think,

Victoria

29:34

I think that's a constant struggle, and it's and I think there are always, are going to be some things that I'll read. I'm like, Well, that was interesting. I don't know if I'm going to do anything with it, but it was but it was like, Okay, there's my fun fact for the day, or whatever it might be. But I think that maybe it becomes, this is another habit to build, or it's a muscle to exercise, where, after you have consumed something, it's like taking a few minutes to pause and just see, okay. What immediately comes to mind is there something that i. And do with this. And I think someone else had said, sometimes you can't quite do that in the moment you have, you do have to stop and think so, kind of having a parking lot where you can maybe put your thought and just say, Okay, I want to return back to this. Or, like, building into that end of day reflection going, oh yeah. Remember eight hours ago I read this thing. Has, as the day progressed, has this given me sufficient time to noodle on it and I know what to do with it? Or does it continue to need to percolate? It's also being okay with sometimes it's not always going to happen. Oh,

Shannon Tipton

30:31

that's such a great statement. Such a great statement. Sometimes, sometimes doing nothing with it is okay. Or it's just, it's accepting that I've read it. It's great that I've read it, and now I feel a little bit more fulfilled. But I don't necessarily have to take action with it, and accepting that you don't have to take action with it. That's, oh, that's the, that's the win Victoria. You get the gold star today. That was, that was a great statement. One

Victoria

31:02

of the books I'm reading right now is meditations for mortals. Like it's 28 very short chapters, and I'm reading one a day, and a lot of it is just being willing to accept that we're just not going to be able to do all the things. And so it's, it's for someone who feels like I need to take it all in, and I need to do something about this. This is definitely been. There's a lot of learning lessons to be learned from from this book. So it's an easy read, and I can't recommend it enough. I

Speaker 1

31:28

love that I put it into the chat so you guys can find it, or at least remember it.

Shannon Tipton

31:31

I mean, we're human beings. We learn something every day, and not all of it is like these great epiphany moments. It's not like all of a sudden I learned, you know, how to make rockets take off or nothing like that, right? It could be something as you know, what I learned to control scroll today, right? To make my screen bigger. And that's like, to me, that's like a rocket blowing up, you know? So to the point it's like, do we have to do something with it? Isn't it something you can file away and then later on, it's like, Oh, I did some research, back up, back aways, back and, Oh, guess what? Now this is applicable. There's nothing in the playbook that says, Oh, I learned it, so I have to use it now.

Shannon Tipton

32:17

Right, right, right. And you're so right. I think we pile more onto this than needs to be. You know? I think that the point is that you're putting yourself out there to discover something, even if it's serendipitous. And so now you can, you can move on with your day. I don't see anything wrong with that, because you're right, it's there's always going to be something that comes up that makes you go, how about that? All right, then and then you you just kind of move on. For me, when I find things that are interesting. I'm very old school with this, so you guys can make fun of me. All you want to is when I find an article that's not on my phone, so on my phone, I'll save it to my apple nodes. If it's on my computer a lot of times, I will email it to myself so I don't forget it. So I don't know how old school that is, and I'm sure that there's, there's a somebody listening here that just, you know, just felt backwards in their chair due to the strength of the eye roll that they just had, but that's that's my method. That's my method. But

Shannon Tipton

33:26

going back to what Doug said, you know, sometimes we don't have to do something with it, but we feel pressured to do something with it. Does that maybe come from we tell our learners, how are you going to apply this? Now, once you leave the session, right? I mean, we're telling people, you need to apply this. You need to find a way to apply this. We never say it's okay if you can't apply it right away. But now you have the tool when the time comes.

Shannon Tipton

33:54

Right? And I think you're right. You know, we put that pressure on ourselves because we tell other people to do that. So subsequently, you know, lead by example, those sorts of things. And I think again, the message today is not to apply it, but just to take some kind of action, you know, to be able to recognize those moments, and whether or not you you actually say, oh, now I'm going to go build a wall. Based on this article that I saw about building walls, it's, oh, that was an interesting technique. I'll file that away somewhere when I go to build that wall in my backyard. But I think, I think that's the point, right? It's, it's about making the time to just be able to discover things. I think we rushed through our days so quickly that we failed to step back and take a moment and recognize that, oh, that was a that was fun, that was a fun fact. I didn't know that, you know, and I think that's sometimes where we dropped. Ball. So I agree with you, Jason, I really do one of the other things here, learning rebel battle cards. That's a great idea. I need to work on that. I think that would be fun. I just noticed that in the chat. Thank you, Doug. I think really and that that kind of pulls up because I had something pulled up on my screen here about challenging yourself to try something new, which was about, you know, building in those learning moments. You know, when was last time we experimented with something, you know, especially with all the AI stuff, right? And I, and I've taken you guys through several different types of workshops, etc, for that, but subscribing to one of those sorts of newsletters, and I found a website. It's a website called, there's an AI for that. It's the initials. There's an AI for that, T, A, A, F, t.com, right? And so I have that website bookmarked, so that way I can go in and I can look at all these different AI applications and play around with it. I might not ever use any of them, but I'm having fun with it. And there's something there that is like, Oh, this is fun. Maybe I can use this. Maybe not, but let's experiment with it. And I think the idea of experimentation is another way that we can build those brain muscles that said, I also believe that when you do experiment with something, you should probably find a space to write down what you've experimented with and what your outcomes were, so that way you can say, Oh, I tried this. It worked. I'll try it again. It didn't work. And this is why. And maybe I want to try that in front of a class, or maybe I want to try that for my next E Learning Program, or maybe I want to do it at the next meeting, right? And I think just experimenting with these ideas, and those of you who go to cassie's chats, she's always showing something, you know? She's always got great ideas for engagement and building those curious moments. So can you take something from there and apply it there? But you know, like I said, with the with this particular website, for me, it's fun, you know? And if I'm having fun while I'm clicking through something, then even though I might not apply it at that moment, it's going to be in my brain somewhere, because I had fun doing it, you know. So it's something that I'm going to remember, or want to remember. Maybe I'll add it to a list to go back later, I you know. But I think those are part of the components of building that habit of just trying to find the time to dig deeper into an idea or a concept or something new. I've had a subscription to master class for a long time, you know, and so I tried to go in there and listen to somebody that's outside of my world, and, you know, just to stretch my brain, and maybe I'll find a connection, and maybe I won't, but I think it's important that we find those moments Yeah, and so now, yeah, I'm going to, I am going to ask you what, what are you going to do now? So some of you have great habits already embedded. Now, for some of you who were like, I need new ideas, was there a new idea that popped up here that you might want to experiment with? For me, it's about the habit stacking. I really need to I I've got a lot of things that happen during the course of my day, but can I do better at saying while I'm doing this, could I be doing this? So

Shannon Tipton

38:46

couple years ago, when I first got LinkedIn learning, it's like $240 for the annual right? I'm like, Gosh darn it. My personal challenge is, I'm going to make it so that each one of the courses is only going to cost me $10 and I actually got it down to $6 a course, because it took like 40 throughout the year, wow,

Shannon Tipton

39:03

wow, oh, wow. That's a great way of looking at it. And next

Shannon Tipton

39:08

year, it raised to like $30 a course, because it was not a sustainable model. But figure out a way to challenge yourself to make that connection.

Shannon Tipton

39:20

But even in any world, $30 is a great is a great price for something that you're going to learn, right? I There are many, many people out there selling courses for a heck of a lot more than 30 bucks. You know where you're spending $240 for one thing, rather than $30 for a lot of things. So I love the idea of your brain making that connection. That's brilliant. Yeah, it is about investing in yourself. And on that note, I get a little frustrated when i. Someone tells me that they don't go to do X or they don't participate in y because they say that their organization doesn't pay for it. You know, my organization isn't paying for this, so subsequently, I'm not going to do it. And the reason why that frustrates me a little bit is because, one in a moment of truth here, your company will not think twice about cutting strings with you when, if it's a good, sound business decision, or maybe, or for whatever reasons, if they have to let you go, they're going to let you go. So there's the loyalty of that may or may not be there and and so I think you need to take responsibility for yourself. So if you've been with an organization for two years, five years, 10 years, or even longer than that, and then you find yourself without a space anymore to go to, without a job to go to, and you've neglected yourself now what? So now you're scrambling while you are unemployed. Now you're scrambling to find new learnings or new skills or what have you, in a moment where maybe it is difficult to afford. I'll just leave that piece of logic there and let y'all noodle on that. But there's so many things that are free, so many things, you know, the books, the webinars, YouTube, etc, etc, so many learning opportunities to take advantage of. And I encourage you to do that. And once again, thank you everyone for participating with us now, and our next week's Coffee Chat ties into this, which is about all of those productivity tools. So remember, this first quarter was about you. You okay? So we've set the goals now we're going to talk about productivity goals that's going to make your lives easier and maybe help you with the topic that we discussed today, and ultimately help you meet the goals that you set at the beginning of the year, right? So I look forward to seeing you at next week's Coffee Chat, where we're talking about those productivity tools. So bring those ideas, bring those tools with you, and we'll share those so thank you very much everybody for joining me today, and let's see, it is 24 degrees outside. How is it? Where you are at? I see Dennis out there. So Dennis, I've been looking at you. You look like he's my pool side. So wherever you're at, I'm extremely jealous about that. And he looks like he's on vacation. He's on vacay, but that's okay. You know, he's making time in his vacay for us so, so that's nice. Thank you for that. Or for him, not in Chicago, he's he's habit stacking his his vacay time. Yes, he is. Yes. It sounds like 250 learning while lounging. You you can't drink all day unless you start in the morning, right? So I don't know what Dennis has in his coffee cup right now, but I hope it's good.

Shannon Tipton

43:14

You, you have said many times you can bring your coffee you don't care what's in the cup. So that's

Shannon Tipton

43:20

right. I don't care what's in the cup. That's all that's right, that's all on you.

Dennis

43:27

Well, Shannon, this makes you feel any better. It was 36 degrees this morning when I went to the gym, so Ouch.

Shannon Tipton

43:35

You are more motivated person than I

Shannon Tipton

43:38

not the Florida I signed up for 36 in Florida.

Dennis

43:43

Come farther south

Shannon Tipton

43:44

in the keys. It's high 70s. Oh,

Shannon Tipton

43:48

dude, you are a man. After my own heart, I go to the keys twice a year. That stopped

Shannon Tipton

43:53

called vacation. It's called retirement.

Shannon Tipton

44:00

It's a beautiful thing. Dennis, for

Shannon Tipton

44:03

the win, I love it, and I love that you're in the game. I'm very jealous, like I did it here twice a year.

Shannon Tipton

44:19

Thank you everyone for hanging with us for another learning rebels, copy chat. So what's the big takeaway? It's about making learning a priority by creating intentional moments in your day, finding systems that work for you, and remembering that sometimes the value comes simply from being curious, not from immediate application, as Victoria reminded us today, sometimes it's not always going to happen, and that's okay. Not every piece of learning requires immediate application, or as Andrew shared, when you are learning with intention, the habit of reflection becomes critical taking to. Time to process what went well what didn't, and capturing those insights while they're fresh. And I love Stella's point about mindset. Sometimes we put pressure on ourselves to apply everything immediately, because that's what we tell our learners to do. This week, I challenge you to take one action step, choose a specific learning habit from our discussion, whether that's dedicating the first hour of your workday, like Victoria, creating a reflection template like Maureen suggested, or simply experimenting with something new and schedule it in your calendar as a non negotiable appointment with yourself. Now, if you want to join us live and you know, do head over to learning rebels.com and sign on up. And while you're there, check out The Learning rebels community, where you have an opportunity to connect with other curious L and D professionals, plus gain access to a wealth of new resources. In the meantime, stay curious, be rebellious and take over the world. Bye for now. You

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