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    Hi everyone, I'm sick Rochelle, give me a second while I get the link, and everything set up. This is a social experiment, or am I am deaf. Coding not at all so deaf and hard of hearing as well, and we want to be able to allow other people to experience what it's like being on clubhouse on an audio up. When we are deaf and hard of hearing and so we read everything off of a transcription closed captioned, whatever you want to call it. And a lot of times we'll go into a room that are not very inclusive and first of all, they don't say their name. They don't say when they're done speaking very hard to follow along. So if you want to participate in this experiment, please feel free I'm about to post the link, and my Instagram. And you can go and walk along with a live transcription that how you can put your phone all the way on silent and participate in the room, just by watching the transcription service though it did live, and I will be posting this and just about, I'll let kuleana and it is hot off. If y'all have any fun that you think could benefit from the experience, please ping them in by hitting the plus time, and the bottom right corner, and we'll get started in a bit. I'm done speaking

    a little bit about me, I'm a staff person like Michelle mentioned, I haven't been advocates or anything, and I am finally a graduate student from psychology. I'm starting my own online coaching business, and coming up with a book and also teach other people what it's like to be deaf and how can we make a change. And I'm then thinking, thank you.

    This is a foul. Yeah, did you have any question please feel free to come up, you can ask questions. What I'm wanting to do is it's gonna be really hard for me but in order for other people to understand what it's like when you don't speak in an inclusive way we will not be saying on that we will not be saying we're done speaking because I really feel like people need to see that chaos that I see because a lot of times people don't understand why we say on a and then why we say we're done speaking they don't understand the need for that. And this you'd need for, and so I encourage you to try to follow along. Again, we're not going to Tony. We're not going to say we were done speaking, I know for me it's a habit, I may do it. I know it's the habit with Coalinga and some of my other supporters as well. And with that I am not done speaking.

    Okay that's it Michelle again, if you go to my Instagram profile. The auto AI link is posted on my Instagram, so you can follow along with the live transcription. I am trying to ping my other moderators and here. So if anybody wants to come up, please feel free to come up, ask question. If you have any tips or any value that you could add, that would be great as well. And I'm not done speaking kuleana, do you have anything else that you want to add as far as why it's so important that we stay on a with everybody speaking, and why that's important because like a lot of people do not do that a lot of people don't want to do it they don't see the value in doing it. And

    this is clean, as I said it's very important because people need to know and understand, for people who first language is not English, right. A lot of times people can be confused with the conversation went up and down, especially in the room. And so that is one reason why it's very important to stay on by speaking, enter your name first. The second thing is not for the deaf community right it's also for people who have other disabilities, and if they important to be included because everybody wants to be heard. At the end of their day. So it's very important that we do say the stuff, and I'm thinking.

    Hi guys, do you want to introduce yourself.

    Hi I'm jazz and yeah I just popped on and noticed that you were doing the room so I thought I would come in and just chime in here. To me, I think it's very important that we do say our names like I said, Hi,

    I am jazz.

    And, you know, share whatever we have to share. I go into a lot of rooms, and I'm teaching people because of what I've learned by attending rooms with Rachelle, how important it is for all of us to be more inclusive. As you can see my name is diversity diva. And so, I'm all about diversity, but also inclusion, and it never dawned on me before that, being on an app like this,

    that inclusion

    meant making sure that people knew who was speaking, when they started speaking, and who knew when they were done speaking, because I would never have thought of something like that, naturally, but now that I know and I have the awareness. I use that myself all the time. And when I'm in other rooms I have to tell you I'm in other rooms, having to do with many different things. One of them is crypto currencies. And I have to keep reminding them and telling them and teaching them to please say their name, and I make a point, every time someone starts speaking, and they don't say their name. I always on mic, and I ask, Hey, this is diversity, who is speaking. So then, it prompts them, and they remember to say their name, before they start speaking. But I think that we just need to be teaching people more and need to put ourselves in situations where there's a lot of people that haven't learned this yet, so that we can spread it around as much as possible, and teach people. Right and I think it's the responsibility of all of us. I'm a hearing person. I'm a person with sight. You know I don't have any visible disabilities, Although I have disabilities that are invisible. And so I believe it's the responsibility of people

    like myself,

    to make sure that we are as inclusive as we can be. And so that's all I have to say I'm diversity deep on this platform. My name is jazz, and I am done speaking.

    Should Rochelle, though, again, I want to welcome everyone to the room. Creating Change I've done speaking. Being deaf on clubhouse. So, um, though it's a link, and my bio on Instagram, to the otter AI live transcription. So if you want to try to participate in this experiment. Just put your phone volume all the way down. If you're on this stage you cannot turn your volume all the way down to there will be some down for what I understand, but if you're an audience, you can turn the volume all the way down, then you can go and what I do and try to follow along with a live transcription. i It's a habit, I'm going to say my name and I'm going to say when I'm done speaking a lot of my supporters do but we're going to try not to, because I've been in so many rooms where people don't understand and they, they always opted why I started this firm in the first place but I can't talk to explain. It's hard to explain what I like. And so I wanted to be able to give people the opportunity to feel what it's like to be deaf or hard of hearing on an audio app. And if you want to follow along, get that link again in my bio on Instagram. And I'm going to let Angela introduce herself and then we'll have a line go. And if anyone has any questions we raise your hand. This is a very inclusive page. Everyone is welcome on this stage, all questions are welcome no questions or too dumb, so please feel free to come up, and I'm done speaking.

    This is Angel I would like to pass the ball to Lauren, and now we'll come back in a minute after she speaks she is speaking. This is Angela and I'm done speaking.

    This is Lauren, thank you, Angela and thank you Rachelle, for having this room today,

    this is something that I wanted to learn a lot more about, and I am here in support, and I absolutely love the idea of having otter transcribe it and turning off the volume. It will be able to provide more insight on what what it is like, and I'm always here for you and I'm here to support so this is Lauren, and I'm done speaking again.

    Oh right, hi everyone this is Angela answer. Thank you, Rachelle, for putting this room together. I'm new on clubhouse, and when I joined clubhouse. The first couple of rooms that I entered I heard people always end up with done speaking. And I sort of kind of just went along with the flow, and I wish somebody would have organized this room to educate me because I just thought that was just the culture of clubhouse, I, I was unaware why people were saying that, but then I realized that people were all the different phrases when they're finished speaking, so I'm here today to learn more, it's really make it. And my statement when I'm done speaking, I would love

    to hear from

    Rochelle and anybody else. If the thought that we hear other people, you use in different type of phrases like I'm complete, I'm done dropping crowns, and all kinds of things I'm hearing. I would like to know if those are also appropriate for you know when you finish speaking so Rochelle, thank you for putting this room together, I

    wish I knew about

    it and first time I joined clubhouse, but nonetheless, we are here to learn, and it's better late than never. Thank you I am Angela, and I'm speaking

    for Shell, yeah. Anyone want to no statement whether they stay out and complete I'm pausing I've gotten speaking to people say I've never done speaking, I'm talking to Mike. So, however they want to do it, and if they not let me know they're done and the reason why somebody else had asked after that, why can't everyone just introduce themselves and say their name, because then you know that somebody's newest speaking. And that's great. If I don't ever want to be part of the conversation because unless someone tells me that they are done and I fit on my screen. I will never know when it's okay for me to timeout and and add to the conversation because I'm not always washing my phone, I'm watching with being sad. And so by the time, if they do it did by introducing them out, Like, let's say you know calling in, I go this is like I'm calling out blah blah blah. And then when she done, I'll, I don't know, but then, Gad diversity Viva thought, talking if you go hi I'm diversity diva. And I just missed my cue of when I'm able to tie me up because there is a lag, and I can't hear when people stop talking, and I don't know if you, if you can hear. If you want to turn your, your volume up. You can see that the lag, and sometimes it still typing after I'm done. And so what that means that I'm gonna digging, clean, I don't know if you wanted to add anything to that. If not, we can not eat it and adieu tossed off if she's available, and I'm done speaking.

    Yeah, speaking, I just wanted to say that, for me, I get voted continued for voice just, like, I, if someone doesn't tell me again, I really don't know with Deakin, even though my hearing aid is a Bluetooth, so it makes it really hard for me to follow the conversation, right there. Because I voted, I did not like butchers my dog, but sometime I just can't follow the conversation. So, yeah, and I'm done speaking

    to Rachelle. Are you available to introduce yourself, of course,

    of course for Shell hello hello Polina and Rochelle and Lauren and Angela, on the first CD. It's so great to see you here. I'm sorry I have to go because I have a commitment, but I wanted to support you. I'm Enid Cleland I'm a content creator and I'm in business and I really love what you're doing here. I've actually learned from the best and it has been from Rachelle and from kuleana. They have good game given me, amazing, amazing lessons I learned from them because I made that mistake that I didn't know how to start introducing myself or telling them when I was done or telling the whole audience. So, this is so important and we need to create awareness to older moderators, because it's super important then that we have the diversity. And then there's a word that comes in I use that I love and it's I can't remember right now, but it's something like diversity and it's it's very important that we all support everyone in the south and with that, I'm done speaking and thank you for having me here. And this has seen it.

    This is Rachelle. Thank you so much everyone for being here, Bria, and Teddy I don't know if y'all are getting the invite to the stage, I have, okay though Tailee. I know the app is glitching I keep getting the bad pop down or pop up message. So I know the opposition right now, I don't know, people are not able to see the room, or what, um, but I do want to talk about like other reasons why this is needed, not just for deaf and hard of hearing people, but there are also blind and visually impaired people on the app as well. And I know that they have. They have auto update to that, if they kept the screen. Tell them who's speaking, which I think it's great. But I am hearing from people that it does not always work. And if they don't, tap the screen in that eye area, it will be something else. And so I don't really know how that works, I probably need to download the app but I'm deaf, though. I don't know how it would work at all, but I do know that they have trouble seeing who's speaking and knowing when they put that put their mic back on mute, and saying that you're done speaking let them know that you know they have an opening that they can start talking if they wanted to. Sometimes I do hold my phone, I would I hold my phone, I can feel the vibration, people are talking into your mic is hot. I do want to talk. Okay, so, sorry about that. But, um, yes I do hold my phone, sometimes because it does somewhat tell me if Tom wanted yelling or like helping me understand their mood, because a lot of times the one might be crying while they're sharing and I won't hear that the crying, and sometimes I do. No room and nobody sharing who was crying or they're laughing. Although joking. People that know me and they know I can't hear them cue they will DM me and let me know, hey, you know this person is crying, or this person is laughing or joking we're, tatata room because a lot of time. That's kind of the comment that I'll go into a satire, or jokey womb, and I can't hear the tone and the voice that they are joking or that I do tend to take at Leslie if I don't know any better. So that, something I started holding my phone and over time I am learning. It died make different vibrations, when there's somebody, calm, or the yelling or crying. Vibrate differently in my hand so I'm slowly learning that, which is really great. And so, I want to welcome Kenny and Timmy and bleah and I want to really thank timrie for, for being here timrie that amazing, amazing supporter, And I love her I adore her and I will always support her in any way I can. Please give her a follow as well, and check out her Instagram because she's so amazingly creative, and she wrote some children's book, dying her amazing gotta know about who is just beautiful to play, check that out, and I'm done peeking we'll get a tally and we'll just go and PTR otter and let everyone introduce themselves and ask whatever questions I might have, and I'm done speaking.

    Hi, this is Tani. And just to clarify my name is pronounced like as if it rhymes with Johnny. And I just want I have an appreciation and two questions. I'll try to make it quick but I first of all just want to really appreciate you, Rachelle and everybody, for the work that you've been doing to create awareness on this app I've been on here for a few months and I learned so much in terms of really, you know, keeping it inclusive and learning more about what the experience is for deaf and hard of hearing people and I'm just so grateful and this room that you're doing today like I was, I was doing that I'm driving now so I can't but I was doing it with my volume all the way down and just reading the, the otter, you know, transcription, it's so hard to follow, I'm amazed that you're able to like stay as involved in the conversations as you do, when words get missed or things don't quite get translated or don't you know what gets written doesn't quite make sense I'm just really like all the more amazed and impressed at how you're able to stay in conversations. You know, in, in real time and also bouncing back and forth between the clubhouse app, and that that transcription so you can't necessarily like especially as a moderator I don't know how you're doing this Rachelle, you know, to be watching for raise hands while you're also reading the transcription I'm just really amazed and really grateful for you for, for giving us this experience, you know, people, people who do here to get this experience to really see what it's like for you I just am so grateful for that, that, that education that you're bringing to everybody on this platform. So thank you thank you thank you that's the first thing. And then I have two questions, hopefully, both of which are pretty, pretty quick. The first is just, if anybody can speak to the preferred terms so that you would that you I know you know amongst the community there's always disagreement and people have different terms that they prefer but for those of us that run rooms. When we're explaining why we want people to introduce their names and say when they're done speaking. You know I feel like it's helpful to let them know why, and so are the preferred terms deaf or hard of hearing or hearing impaired. If you can just say, You know what, which terms are kind of the best terms for moderators to use when they're telling their rooms why we're listing, you know to why we're, you know the inclusivity piece that we're wanting to include and explaining why that is, what terms to use. So that's the first question, and I'm going to not play by the rules and say I'm done speaking so I can pass the question out. Thank you.

    Hi, this is Michelle so first question what turn. I only do DAF two this guy my dog wasn't always deaf, where I was born with hearing, and I got sick when I was about 18 months old, and I was in a coma, until the time I went to. When I came out of the coma and I started you know getting data, my path data, or whether it was bonding to things like I used to, and they tapped in my hearing, and they found out I was actually. And they use the term hearing impaired back that I did have very, very little hearing, and hearing a run amplify the hearing that I did not have. And so I was hearing about and now we just thought of hearing because a lot of people don't like the time hearing a PAP because a lot of it definitely because they used to do that to describe deaf people like well, and for people like me who are deaf, because I had a progressive hearing loss, though it would over time, get worse and worse, and I'm totally deaf, and my wife and I only have 10% in my life. And that with the hearing aid. A lot of times I don't wear the hearing aid because, you know, listening fatigue, for me it's real, it's a real thing, particularly when I'm trying to listen. I'm only getting bit competed and I'm not getting, like, all of the sound and the continent, that'll be made and my brain was like putting everything together like a puzzle piece and it's very tiring and listen to pie, but when I'm at home, I just kind of take my hearing aid out or cut it off and just read. But, um, we, we do the tone deaf and hard of hearing, there are some people that will refer to themselves as hearing impaired and that's fine for like the deaf community, They very much found upon that term, because like I said it does require that, that means that they have hearing that can be impaired and a lot of them don't have any hearing at all. So I just say deaf and hard of hearing or, you know, disabled, if they do have a disability, and it does help, not just the deaf and hard of hearing, but it helps so many other disabled people, it helped people that have traumatic brain injury, especially when you know saying that, you know you're done speaking a lot of times people want a TBI, you know, they could be talking, and they might need to pause and gather their thought or, you know, think about what they were gonna say not because I know I suffered a TBI back in February I slipped on ice, and I hit my head pretty hard against the house to cut it up, that Dick's dishes and I did end up at a TBI, and a lot of times I think we have a conversation, and I will forget what I was saying, in the middle of the Senate, as though I would have the part and think about what I was talking about. And a lot of times people will think that part means I'm done. And the data, and a lot of times people if I'm pausing to think about something, you know, somebody asked that talking and then I just met you know whatever after that I was gonna say it so you know I think it's a good habit to pick out because it also prevent people from talking over each other and interrupting each other and you know we're able to treat other people were stacked on top, and so it's just a good habit to have just say the name, especially when you have a lot of days usually a small things like that I don't mind if people forget to say their name because I can just plant a photo really fast and thought looking back at the transcription service, but when they're the last days that I'm having to scroll down and scroll to find you talking because they didn't introduce themselves, it's not because I'm trying to find them and I'm trying not to miss the things dad and and get behind in the conversation. And so it's a really good habit and it does help. 30 other people so I do say to make things more inclusive and accessible for those that have disabilities looking at a name, if they were done speaking, a title limit it to get deaf and hard of hearing, and I'm done thinking.

    Thank you. This is Connie again, just coming back from the transcription. Thank you that was also helpful. And the other question that I have, if it's okay if I ask another one, I'll just do it real quick as the, You know in watching the transcription I'm really seeing how, you know how much gets missed. How much is not quite accurate. And I'm just wondering if you have any like recommendations for just ways of speaking, or anything that can help make those transcriptions clearer, or if there's anything that you know of that are like certain, certain things that those of us that that do here should watch out for, to, to make the experience, besides saying you know I'm done speaking, and all of that but anything else that can help make the the transcription and the whole experience easier for people who are deaf or hard of hearing. This is Tanya and I'm done speaking Thank you.

    Michelle, so it does have AI. The AI proponent. And so I, I've noticed, when I'm speaking. Over time, it's starting to not myth, I guess with transcribe what I'm saying. And it will correct a thought into low my feet pattern because I do have a face impairment that comes with, you know, being gaffe, and just dying to learn the patterns of my voice, and over time hopefully there won't be any math out, but I do no auto AI, usually at the end of the recording because that record while at transcribing at the end of the recording it goes to this thing called processing, where it will listen to the recording again and fix any mess up that may have made. So usually about an hour later I'll go through and read everything again. Make some notes, and then delete it. So I do that, that I know for like a lot of people, especially people that are reading along with the live transcription. Yes, it is hard but I think, like with me, like it goes back to like how my brain processes things that I've been using closed captioning and transcription services. All my life, I mean, as long as I can remember. And so my brain just kinda get a like, you're like a 10 words in a sentence, and you know it got covered or dry my brain will kind of get that without other word would be every now that I'll have to like be somebody and just the base tag, they say the, and they'll like correct it for me, but yeah it's it's not perfect. I was hoping to brain and one of the guys that on the app, he worked at auto AI, and he would be a great person to answer this question, I like that I can wait to typing him again, and I'm done thinking

    began for closed caption to Tony's question in the previous, I just want to say, like Michelle mentioned it best not to deal with a lot of comedic Outlander, but that was recommended to healthcare and community. Caption day, it's hard because you know like myself, I did a lot of speech, the closed caption, and the more I've been I've come up correctly. I have a lot of people to talk to the show,

    or

    didn't notice that the caption is not coming up correctly. I always tell people, don't feel bad. It doesn't come from me again and we are different. But yeah, I just want to mention, and then thinking.

    Thank you so much. Appreciate all those, all those answers and the amazing work that you're doing to educate us all in here so thank you thank you thank you.

    Angel I have one more question, piggybacking on what Tani said regarding the transcription I know there are different different accents on these, on different rooms, depending on you know who's hosting and all of that because this app have people from all over the world. That transcription picks up on certain accents, or is it pretty concise as far as picking up on all accents from all over the world. Angela and I'm done speaking.

    That's a great speaker, Angela, can you repeat your question again sorry number again.

    Sure.

    This is Angela, my question was for that transcription software that you guys are using. Does it pick up on all accents, or is it me mostly American accents, British accents, what have you, um, Angela and I'm done speaking.

    This is the show so I don't know. I can't hear accent, I don't know if somebody had asked that I do remember being in a room a while back, and somebody had, I got a very thick, like Irish accent like an Irish, Scottish, I can't remember what it was but it did pick up the transcription did pick up everything he was saying with no issues. So I'm guessing it does pick up accent, I know. Another acquaintance of mine on the app. Few of them actually who are English from London and picked up their voices, just fine. So, other people have told me that they have accent too, and it picks up Everything's just fine, but I can't tell if somebody had an accent or not, because it does pick it up. The only thing that doesn't pick up is I did go into a room a while back, it was a foreign language, where it would not, it would not an English because I wanted to see if I could transcribe and it could not, but I thought that would be really cool if it could transcribe, but it could not. I hope that answered your question. I'm done thinking

    this is temporary, I just wanted to jump in really quickly before I have to go in and grab novex I wanted to share my support or show my support for you Rachelle. I met Rachelle pretty early on in my clubhouse experience which I think was absolutely brilliant timing because it has definitely formed my experience here and it's, and I noticed that it's transcended

    off of the app.

    But before I go into that, I Herschel actually talked about my, what I was going to bring up about just the level of respect for everybody with saying I'm done speaking or uncomplete or whatnot so that we're not jumping in on top of everybody in interrupting people so I really wish it was something and I do it the rooms that I go into I have, I hear it all the time now, but I know that there must be some places on the app that they have not adopted this style, but I think this is inclusive for every single person no matter where you're sitting at or no matter, you know what you're dealing with, it's just, it's a form of respect and so I'm so grateful that I that I learned this from Michelle and Dr AJ pretty early on, and also it's like you know, when you think about you know a lot of us are on Instagram and social media platforms and I never even before I met Rachelle I didn't even think about like, things like when I'm doing reels and whatnot doing closed captions and things like that so now I make sure that I do that for every single reel or, you know, a video that I post up on Instagram so, you know, I just, I'm always so amazed and in awe of Rachelle because he didn't change the culture here on this on this app so I'm just super grateful for you, and, yeah, you, you're killing it I

    love it,

    I love you and I have to go grab no best so I wish I could stay longer. I'm done speaking.

    This is Rachelle thank you so much timrie. I really appreciate you. We're gonna move on to Deborah. The mic is all yours and I'm done teaching. Hi,

    I'm Debra. Thank you very much for creating the space for this conversation. I'm a family doctor, and I am the only family doctor in the city that I live in who's fluent in ASL. So I have a pretty large percentage of the deaf population in my city I am privileged to be their primary care doc. And the question that I wanted to ask is,

    as I help

    navigate conversations that they're asking me about how to avoid isolation, which has been a much larger problem during the pandemic and coming out of the pandemic. And as I'm talking to folks that have recently moved to this city, I'm often one of the first people that they meet, and they're asking me how to meet people, and right now that often means how to meet people online. So I am wondering if you can tell me which apps are most friendly for people in the deaf and hard of hearing community, and which are the least useful or maybe even a little bit invalidating so I can steer away from some suggesting conversations on this. I'm Debra and I'm complete, thanks.

    This is a shell club How did not have great accessibility for you too. They have no assets really the future for the deaf and hard of hearing, actually, but I've really found so many people on this app, have been so supportive of me being here and not just me but other deaf and hard of hearing people and other data disabled as well and I found that the people on this app have been very inclusive and there is possible. A very helpful and so I've met like I met kuleana and I've met some other deaf and hard of hearing people on the topic well and we all use auto AI for transcription or will use Google me, can I do you know that auto AI. I think they've taught a fee based on like how many minutes, I get if you get like 6000 Minute. A month and they charge a fee and I was very glad to get a code and I'm trying to work with them on making sure that every deaf and hard of hearing parts on the app could get a code, so they could get that service for free because I think $99 Or like $100 a year for the year and only give you 6000 minutes a month, and I do dop, all of my all of my minute. Don't worry about period before the month with a red pen. It was till Friday so I had to contact the auto AI about that was on clubhouse and he was too kind to go ahead and give me one minute and extend that, for me, but you know I am hoping that it doesn't that, you know I could get other deaf and hard of hearing people that are on this app because I think this is something that we need. I don't think we should have to pay for accessibility feature. So, um, that being that I do utilize FaceTime Facebook a lot like Facebook Messenger, like to chat with people, but I haven't met like new people that way. Now like I have on clubhouse, like Glen clubhouse I've been able to connect with people all over the world, and the connection I've made have been priceless really. I'm so thankful for that. Like I only wish I would have came on the top, a lot sooner. A lot of my friends didn't want to give me an invite to the app because they were worried they didn't understand how I would utilize that because they had audio only and I'm deaf, but I didn't make it work, you know, I got my Coronavirus returned all the way up and and I you to be able to participate in room. So, if you had any patients who are over the age of 17, and they want to give clubhouse, a try, please let me know and I'm happy to message you a link that they can use that will invite them directly on to the app to my club definitely inclusivity and you know they can give it a try, and they might like it. I hope they would like it to just let me know please DM me, and we could talk more about it but I would say clubhouse has been a great, great way for me to meet people and a lot of the people that I've met and connected with on clubhouse have been willing to do a time card with me. Not one lady on here. I don't know, fluent ASL. I know some because I went to college at my parents decided to have me do speech therapy, and relax. And so they listen to the doctor didn't really have a support system and the doctor, my pediatrician at the time told them not to have me learn sign language, not to send me to the Deaf school and. And so that was what I did and so when I was in high school I went to Gallaudet University to earn some college cut it. And I started having to learn how good they are, because the deaf community were not very accepting of me being that I were deaf and did not know ASL, they look at it. I turned my back on my culture and my deaf community and so they were very eye opening, thought, yeah, just to me if you want an invite you want to see if they would like to try out club health I'm happy to help make that happen. And I'm done speaking.

    I'm sorry, I just wanted to say thank you to yourself for that offer and offer some empathy for the struggling of different cultures and how difficult that can be. I'm Debra and I'm done

    physically a big endeavor, I just wanted to say that I created Facebook internationally for people who are hard of hearing, and also to I mean part of three different groups, where I have a lot of debating a lot of zoom calls. It's also internationally. So it's typically eight to up. So for those of you at Africa interested and meeting people, internationally, you can definitely go on Instagram and my bio. If you click on that you think of that to the patient as well. Especially for me, I asked a lot of people through Instagram, not so much on Facebook but I guess because people are more on Instagram into topics especially to tech topics for the deaf community because I'd closed captions on my Instagram, or Twitter, so that is definitely where you can definitely recommend a lot of your patient to look at to talk, and I'm done speaking.

    I'm Debra,

    thank you so much, that's great insight, I'm done,

    Rachele. Made it looks like you are next. Am I pronouncing your name right, and I'm done picking.

    Yeah,

    hi Rochelle

    I've loved seeing you on the app and just following you into so many spaces and hearing you speak. I love hearing your story and just everything so I just want to let you know how fabulous you are, and I do have a

    question, but I forgot what it

    was because I'm realizing just how fabulous everyone in this room in this stage is. So,

    Maybe it'll come back to me.

    I'm done.

    That's okay, no problem. Um So for anybody else who had popped into the room. Again you can get the link to otter AI, and my Instagram if you have any fun on the app that could get some benefit from participating in the sixth element, please, ping them into the room. If you have any question please feel free to come up on the stage, and act, and I'm done speaking. Okay, this

    is me again.

    I remember my

    question I'm so sorry if you'll start

    well, I'm just, I, yeah. Okay, my,

    my question is,

    This is accessibility. Accessibility features for any disabled community are is so difficult to find, and to make mainstream, and to demand and to, and it always comes down to funding, it's always funding. I work in politics. And so, for politicians, there are some regulations when you're running for office that you need to have your videos or any audio closed captioned. And so I guess my question would be similar to what was asked what kind of apps or resources are best out there or most accessible for, for those who are hard of hearing, or the deaf community, for any, anything that you're using a smartphone or a tablet or anything like that. I love to hear that otter is doing. Otter AI is doing the free minutes for you as well. I know that in the States, we have some funding and like through vocational rehab places sometimes they will pay for different services and different accessibility features or technology. And so I just I just wish that there was I, we need to do more and we need more for all these things, and I guess if anyone has run into an organization or a tool or something that has been really great on that advocacy front maybe and plugging resources, it'd be great to know more about, I guess that's kind of my question today. Thank you.

    I'm done speaking.

    The Secure Shell so the back up that I know. If it's not, if I'm not using auto AI. The EVA. It's ABA, and also our live transcription app. And so I do that sometimes, Like when I'm out and about. Everyone's wearing a mask and I can't relax, behind the mask and so I will sometimes open up the EVA app, and just let them talk, and then my phone will pick up what they're saying and transcribe it that way for closed captioning out and closed captioning video. Though they serve as a capability, they contacted me to because they just moved out here to Austin where I'm where I live and they moved out here from San Francisco, and they do a lot. not just closed captioning, but they also offer services, where people that do sound language, and they want sound like with interpreter at another window, and so a lot of time that they'd like a live news conference, or live press conference, or anything like that. A lot of times they will utilize this company, and they will have somebody that will be signing and another window on the screen, and said after this company dies. They're the only one that I know of, besides like the auto AI. A lot of times like when it comes to social media like Facebook. There's a lot of, like, news stories and they've already passed a lot where if you're sharing news stories. I saw some yeah they had to be closed caption, but there were so many media companies on Facebook that do not share closed captioning and enter your story so I don't know what to do for that I just don't like them, I guess. And, and it's the same with other social media app with Instagram, around people that don't caption the videos. Caption the real or the live whatever I said I don't watch that and like if they want my support, then they should capture it, but I can't support what I don't understand. But I use Ava I use auto AI, I use Google meet, and they all have closed captioning and I know that Zoom is about to meet their closed captioning, free, which is great, because right now, I'd only available with pay subscriptions, so I'm glad that they're about to make it, pray for those who are deaf and hard of hearing because helping my kid with the calling, doing the first semester when they were just learning was really hard because a lot of the Zoom video that the teacher for 10 We're not closed caption because they didn't have the pay subscription, they couldn't close caption the video. And it was just mad. So I hope that helps. If not, just DM me and I could do some research and find out about some other app for you, and I can help you more offline if you'd like. And I've done speaking.

    This is me again, thank you, Rochelle, no that does help a lot and I, I loved seeing I loved seeing the ASL interpreters in the videos on a lot more media platforms this past year with a pandemic and everything going on. And I think, unfortunately, going back to the funding of these accessibility features. You know it's so difficult because, again, with the, the news stories being shared, and also with with in politics in, when I, where I worked with campaigns, it's kind of that thing of,

    who

    ultimately the individual is responsible for having the closed captioning on there. But the platform's also need to be responsible at and to a certain point, especially if you have a mass group of people on your platform, you know, and so I, I hope that we will get to a better place where platforms are held a lot more responsible for that, especially if they exceed a certain populations have, you need to have accessibility features. You know, integrated into your technology, because the burden on the individual is is so high, both ways, both ways is way too high.

    And, Yeah, I

    guess that's just my, my final thoughts so thank you for that conversation and those resources I

    appreciate it. Thank

    you. I'm done speaking.

    Okay, I will do a last call for questions, if anyone had questions or if anybody has anything that they want to add. If not, then we can go ahead and close the kuleana, what do you think I'm done speaking.

    Basically speaking, I think that it's amazing idea of a show, and I'm thinking,

    okay, so go no question that I will go ahead and close the room, I will reschedule the room next week. I'm hoping to please spread the word, because I really think that, you know, while there are so many people on this that that are very supportive and very inclusive and accessible. There are so many people that don't understand, and they're not supported and assessable, they should be. And so I'm hoping to, you know, spread awareness, and the best way that I know how to do that is to let other people experience that for themselves and to know what it's like for the ones who are deaf and hard of hearing or might have disability that need accessibility features to help them out with connecting on the app. And so, please, you know, tell your friends, tell your family your clubhouse squad. And again this room will be rescheduled, next Monday at the same time five o'clock. I hope to see y'all then I hope everyone had a wonderful evening. And if anyone had any other question please. DM me, and I will be happy to answer your question, then. Bye. and then Kiki.