So yes, meditation provides us with a laboratory situation in which we can examine this syndrome and devise strategies for dealing with it. The various snags and hassles that arise during meditation are grist for the mill. They are the material with which we work. There is no pleasure without some degree of pain. There is no pain without some amount of pleasure. Life is composed of joys and miseries. They go hand in hand. Meditation is no exception. You will experience good times and bad times, ecstasies and fear. So don't be surprised when you hit some experience that feels like a brick wall. Don't think you are special. All seasoned meditators have had their own brick walls. They come up again and again. Just suspect them and be ready to cope. Your ability to cope with trouble depends upon your attitude. If you can learn to regard these hassles as opportunities, as chances to develop in your practice, you'll make progress. Your ability to deal with some issue that arises in meditation will carry over into the rest of your life and allow you to smooth out big issues that really bother you. Alright, the word I like to use is alchemy. So we through our meditation, through our zazen, these hindrances, these obstacles, these problems we'll call hindrances, do arise, and by facing them head on. And how do we face them head on? We face them by just putting all our devoted attention to the counting of the breath, or the falling of breath, or working on a koan, put all our attention on that. And what will occur with these hindrances is they are there. They're there in the mind, whatever they may be. But as so long as we don't try to push them away, and so long as we don't try to grasp at them, they have a life of their own and but if we just stick with the practice, then they will pass. Everything passes, and as a result of that, and this, you know, this applies inside and outside session when we're doing our meditation, when we're facing the wall, what inevitably happens might not be overnight, but what inevitably happens is through our daily life, in our daily life, when we're moving around, when we're dealing with people, difficult people, there's this alchemy that has occurred through our practice by facing our fears, by facing our anger, our depression. By, by looking at it, seeing it, not doing anything with it, by, by working through that. Then that comes out in again, that's this word I like to use alchemy. It just there's this kind of miraculous alchemy that occurs. And then conflicts are not such a problem anymore. We can deal with them more skillfully. We're not so thrown off by someone who's yelling at us, or or, or any given Association. You get into a car accident or, yeah, it's just, it's not, you know, you can deal with it more skillfully. You