And to give you, you know, one example is that that a little bit more conceptual, but in a way that had a big impact on me when I was in college, I took a botany class. And I was sitting in this big amphitheater in Davis, California, where I went to college. And the professor was giving a drawing on the board with big, circular diagrams of the cycle of oxygen and carbon dioxide, and how this whole cycles have operated in nature and, and I was enthralled by this whole description. And I think I got maybe somewhat concentrated listening to it and involved in it. And then, and then, but then I, as I left and ended the class, walking out of this amphitheater, this big classroom, you come into this courtyard with some very big Valley Oaks, old, old big, large oak trees. And, and I just was stunned, I stood in the middle of the courtyard, and looked at these oak trees, having just heard about the cycles of oxygen and carbon dioxide and, and thought, "I could lose a kidney, I could lose an arm, I could lose an eye, I could lose all kinds of parts of my body. But I still depend on these plants, creating oxygen. They're in some ways more important to me than some of these parts of my own body."