I had a co worker that was a former coworker Excuse me. That was he was African. So let's get this straight. He was African. Cool guy, real that guy. And I like talking to people. Like let me understand not you're the expert, but I want to understand your point of view. What does All this means that he and I had some conversation, it's like, Well, is it true that some boats from Africa will say that African Americans aren't true Africans? Yes, I had conversation with someone recently as of yesterday about that. Their son is in a military, he talks. I don't know proper English or whatever. And he's saying his son, he's black, or African American, whatever, right. And he was saying his son was getting lack of better word, you know, getting talked about how you ain't talking to black. Now, this gentleman, he's working on his doctorate, too. And his wife has a bachelor's, at least a bachelor's without an AP Psych. You know, his son is in the military. It's like, when you ain't talking, like I guess from the other people that's in the military. This bull hack, I guess, it's like, you're not talking like You're not dressed in black think a call. So why do we do it? That we ain't own ones, by the way. So let's make that point very, very clear in this podcast, and I hope that is that does not get edited out? If you do we'll have a conversation. Once Yes, we are not the only ones. Ah, I, I was I've been fortunate enough in my life to work with all different folks in various capacities, you know, in terms of racial, ethnic, etc. And, and always take the approach of curiosity, not trying to say your this verbose site, what does it mean for you to be as it's and how they intertwine? Just tell me and of course, during those conversations, a more system, his looks, holistic approach comes back. And things are talked about in terms of you ever had some students and former life that were of a particular from a particular region in Asia, Asia, sorry, particular region in Asia, and how their particular country and region in Asia, I'm trying to make it as good as possible, wasn't exactly looked at, favorably by other countries and regions. In that shot, they totally as I were hearing, if you're from over there, they you know, from this country, they consider this like, Oh, really psyche? Yeah. And that was their perspective. That's how they looked at it. I have not done research on it. I don't know. But if that's how they feel, that they had a complaints because of where they were from versus other agents, it goes to the overall question of why, why do we continuously try to find ways to separate ourselves into five reasons that we shouldn't like a person? Still, you know, and yeah, I mean, I Pollyanna, I guess, in terms of, can we, you know, let me know the person first. You know, like you Michael, you know, or I remember the first time I met you, you know that you know not? You may see me at a conference very briefly. Very, very people know, me, it's like him before he's go, he didn't does his thing. He's, he's going back to his hotel room, watching TV working. But you know, you use it, you know, here it is, you know, I ain't been in communication. He said, Hey, if you ever need to talk about navigating, let me know. You're standing against the wall. It was at CSIS in Birmingham, if I'm recalling correctly, ses is in Birmingham, standing against a pillar. This slide my first year in the doctorial program, already had a rough experience, cause I don't know nothing about this world and use it that that hey, you know, how are you doing? Because I was drowning out in the wild stolen. And there are other African Americans there. You know, it's like a meet and greet kind of, you know, free it was free food. That's why I was there. So as I get free food, I'm going on a budget. And as I you know, Algis a wallflower in the room, I wasn't that extroverted person that's out there. But you took the time say hey, here it is, hey, you know. So not saying others have not done that. But I will say that if we were all the same, everybody I would have reached out to everybody else. Does that make sense?