All right, welcome back. It's time for three for me and two for you. It's easily becoming one of my favorite parts of putting this podcast together. Okay, number one, I love that Jenna and Ron wrote this book with the assumption that students don't have to keep up to be included in general education classrooms. There is this miscon. Inception, especially in math, that learners with disabilities cannot and should not be in general education classrooms because they cannot keep up with the curriculum. It's like as soon as a learner has this label, then the school team is like, well, they must be educated somewhere else, because the somewhere else is this magical place, and somehow they'll be able to be caught up when everyone's working at their own pace in this one particular spot. But if everyone's working at their own pace in this one particular classroom and everyone else is moving on, how are they going to have the opportunity to catch up that needs to be removed from the argument and from this conversation. And so what I really appreciate about Jenna and Ron's book is that their assumption is that all learners belong in general education, which is something that at mcie, we fully, fully endorse that idea. Okay. Number two, I love this quote from Jenna, if you're implementing UDL but still have separate classrooms, you're not really doing UDL. Now, not every school in the United States is implementing universal design for learning, but a lot of them are. And so if you're listening to this conversation and you're going wait a minute, we implement UDL and we have that specialized Autism Program, or that specialized Behavior Support Program, or that program for students with intellectual disabilities. I want you to really think, am I implementing universal design for learning? Okay, number three, math is for everyone, I think it's really important for us to start believing that now it doesn't mean that everyone's going to be a math genius, just like not everyone is going to read two or three grades above their reading level. Everyone can do math and using Universal Design for Learning, we can make sure that we can provide the conditions so that everyone can be successful in math. Okay, now time for two for you. Number one, what is your math story? I love that. Jenna and Ron start off their book with math stories. After listening to this episode, what is the math story that comes to your mind? And we're going to ask this on social media, so make sure you look out for that number two, make sure to check out Jenna rufos website, empowered school, dot O, R G, to learn more about her services, and she runs a great blog. There to you lots of great ideas, and make sure to sign up for her newsletter. Also find Ron martiello on LinkedIn. We're going to put his LinkedIn page on our show notes. I'd love it for him to get like, 1000 requests on LinkedIn to connect, so make sure you do that. He is a fantastic resource. Am so thankful that he and Jenna put their heads together to make their book conquering math myths with universal design. All right, that's going to do it for this episode of Think inclusive time for the credits. Think inclusive is written, edited, designed, mixed and mastered by me Tim Villegas, and is a production of the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education, Original Music by miles. Kredit, additional music from melody. Thank you to our sponsor, IXL. Learn more at ixl.com/inclusive and if you haven't already, it would make my heart so happy if you would rate think inclusive on Spotify or Apple podcasts. And if you really want to get on my good side, write a review on Apple podcasts, so that everyone can know what you think of the podcast and hopefully convince more people to listen. Speaking of Apple podcast reviews, we did get a recent one, so I'm gonna give a shout out to them. Hold on a second. I'm gonna find it okay. This is from KT, new nine, the new season opener, featuring Tim doing a deep dive on the persistent issues with segregated schooling spaces, is phenomenal, as are many other episodes. One of my fave education pods at the moment. Thank you so much. KT new nine. NEW. Really appreciate you taking the time to write a review so that could be you write a review on Apple podcasts, and I will give you a shout out. We'd love to know that people listen. Thanks for your time and attention, and remember inclusion always works. Think I hit all the things from mcie or.