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will be approved. Cool. January 19 2023.
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All right. That will be approved. Let the record reflect that Commissioner wooley Burton has entered the building. Thank you Commissioner. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And adoption of the OPC staff.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. We have with us supervisor investigator, Caldwell, senior investigator Elgin Murphy and industry specialist Johnny Underwood. Specialist candidate, HR director, fellow faculty at American Sign Language Mr. Kotter and Dr. Stephanie Beatty and media service queen and court record is Mr. Ellis's chair, this is all I see.
All right. We have sitting in for the Chi Good afternoon.
How are you sir?
What do you have with you?
I have with me today. Captain. Sergeant Romeo Alexander
Wow. Awesome. official representatives here
just found this has to be any year let's tenders nor although,
Mr. Chairman. Yes.
We do have a former elected official, Elena Harada from the Detroit Board of Education, the school board.
Well, welcome.
Thank you. Um, today, I had the pleasure of sitting in on
table today. And the focus was gun violence here in the city of Detroit. That's the main focus, and what are we going to do about it? And the discussion was robust. A lot of the things came out of that good things. And I think moving forward. We should be able to tackle this done bots. Gonna stop next day. But at least we have a clear understanding on some of the things we can do and the hardest that's going to help us make that happen. So I was excited about it. This is the first time that I've ever been invited to something like that. See that many powerful people in the room that can help us curve hopefully this gun violence and get down to the root of the problems and what's driving it. So I want to say thank you to cheap white for whiteness. Yes, sir.
Can you give us some strategies from an athlete Mr. Chair, are you able to do that?
No, it doesn't have to be confidential but the strategies I couldn't even tell you throw it out there might be coming forth. It's really complex. stems from social media can come from systemic backgrounds like economics, right? A lot of factors involved. Because once once the young person goes to school, he's educated for eight hours, right? So he's not doing anything bad. When he gets home, what is his home life like after that, right? So you leave program for another eight hours. So that's where some of the trouble comes into play. That's what I found out. That's what I took out of that right there. How do you stop that? Right? That's that's what we're trying to get to. A lot of the things I know the world has been watching some things have taken place in different cities. And our ability is going to be at its finest you probably witnessed that already happened in Memphis, Tennessee. So that being said, we don't have those problems here in Detroit. Just don't just don't We don't want to manifest those problems period. So there might be some protests around the country in different cities. And if you do decide to protest here, please peaceful protest. Right, peacefully do it. And if the police officers asked you to, hey, go walk on the sidewalk, we'll keep you safe. So nobody won't, you know, hit my car to do exactly what they asked you to do. So we can get through this. Because what they're telling me is is that we can be a role model. Here your role model on how to peaceful protests, taking us to the country. And that's what I want us to do was to be the role model. I want us to be a part of the problem. So that is my chair report for that. She
award Good
afternoon.
Good afternoon again.
So start off, start talking about the injured officers are still out. currently have one sergeant out of the second precinct. Two police officers out of the 79th precinct still injured off duty sable COVID is currently 21 members are currently quarantined, isolated. For 14 of those came in last week. Out of those 21 I was 21 We have 18 ct. Quarantine individuals who tested positive for COVID. crime data currently shows a 35% increase in homicides year to date. Non fatal shootings are currently 23% robberies 46% and a full a total part one crime increase of 14%. And I'll talk about a few cases here shortly. But one of the ones some of the robberies we had a recent rest in the robberies of the dollar stores, Dollar General family dollars we locked up to individuals with regard to that one which we believe was wanted for multiple robberies of these type of stores. So that's going to help impact these numbers. Surely, our drag racing and drifting enforcement is basically the same as as reported the last time it's unchanged. Those numbers just again for for the Board's edification. We've conducted this as a year to date since April 2020. To 600 for a traffic stops, issue 374 tickets, empowered 144 vehicles. We've recovered 12 stolen vehicles 40 Excuse me, 58 felony arrest 11 misdemeanors, and out of that we recovered 35 weapons as we talk about mental health and we will have a presentation from our team and partners here shortly. As you know, we recently stood up our mental health co response car 70 That this month is we're talking about mental health is 2022. We answered 883 calls for service currently and 2023 the same time you're today with 1067. We serviced in 2022 80 807 Are those is 2023. We've already serviced 977 calls.
2323. Yes. 25 days in five days in a month.
I'll give you some numbers here shortly that's going to kind of put that in context. And what we're talking about our mental health corresponds has stood up on the 17th of this month. already. Just just a unit at all. And the mandate is only running from 11am to 7pm. they've handled approximately 200. Ross calls for service already. And that's just an eight hour span of time. And what we're seeing is that there is really no difference whether it's a person who's suffering from mental health, whether it's male or female, it's it's kind of balanced that we're seeing at this particular point in time, but that's, you know, we put this together to try to help us understand this a little bit better and put the right people in the right places so we can make sure that we can service these individuals who need help. significant advance just kind of pains me to talk about this. We had an incident Saturday January 21. From 6am to 2pm. Officers responded to Henry Ford Hospital on a five year old self inflicted wound. story goes. Five year old gang introduced to the parents vehicle that was parked in the driveway, found a loaded weapon. Playing with that weapon, went off and actually shot off this child's finger. We found out through investigation to the father left with the gun in the car prior night. So let's take it out. Charlie got into that car and was able to unfortunately pull the trigger and shot finger shot to be sure is in protective services. And now Helen you have to take the case. Another incident on Sunday, January 12. Officers were dispatched to the 14 600 block of spring garden to investigate unknown unknown problem when they arrived there. Unfortunately, they found a young five year old male not breathing originally this child was transported to St. John's Hospital. obvious signs of abuse from what the doctors were saying. The abuse itself was so disturbing. It actually affected some of the medical workers their long term abuse according to the notes that is currently being handled again by a child abuse. The parents both were charged in 36 District Court for homicide that died
on January 22 officers were routine patrol in the night policing here's another act that you know sometimes we think will surprise us but it seems like something it keeps continuing to repeat itself. The officers are trapped in a traffic stop of a gray Honda silver jeep. No place as they get ready to pull this vehicle over slow down just enough for the occupants in that car the Toronto Star fire shots. Officers pursued the vehicle after a short chase the it was the current rate of cracking up or getting into the accident or the build out the officers were able to get him in custody. I just want to point out even with that, he also made a decision not to fire shots back at him but they were able to game and get him into custody. So often you hear about situations when we do fire back. We injure someone that becomes a natural national news. But no one's talking about the fact that this particular incident we were able to get these individuals even after the fire that our officers were able to get them into custody just as great were by the officers responding most notably here recently we had a fatal shooting involving the Michigan State Police. You all heard this on the news. We individual came out of the house and made the decision to shine a laser at our MSP helicopter. They caught him on infrared and he took the rifle out and start shooting at the helicopters so the officers responded to that particular scene in case this individual would continue to fire shots in turn fire and fatally wounding him giving some positive stories. January 24 at 11 precinct. They held classes to help educate expecting mothers the ABCs of Safe Sleep, you know we have number of incidents where we have babies who become victims as soon as they held this particular class to teach young mothers how to care for babies and watch out for what could end up being a tragic situation. In this particular program, on today's date as you talked about chairperson, Chief Craig, Chief White House hosted a roundtable with the US Marshal Service, great interaction, a lot of information came out in this particular meeting is no collusion. Banks asked whether we could talk about some of those situations just a lot of information came out. When we found out we're doing a lot of great work around the city, Detroit and surrounding agencies. We just need to get coordinated effort. And with that, we need some backing financial back mission. We have sustainability in these particular programs. So that's what happened at this meeting today. There is gonna be subsequent meetings, but I think it was a great start anything any solution to a problem starts with the conversation. And that conversation started today. There's a retirement party for Corporal Steven Parker after 34 years of service out of 8%. He's affectionately known as the grillmaster. department that probably will take place at the precinct on Friday from 12 to 2pm, if anyone's interested. In addition to that, we had a DP he explored India waves. You all might remember this particular those who've been around for department from for a while. At age seven this Williams was paralyzed by gunfire while riding her bicycle since that time, the department has embraced her and made her part of the Explorer program and she's turning 16 Instead of throwing a party for her. So just Great work. Great information within my report with regard to that was just great work by these
questions. Let the record reflect that Commissioner Presley has entered the building Welcome, sir. And another quick change. Corporal Parker his his retirement party was last night. Oh, I was there. So I represented the board there. So and he was a girl man, I got a chance to take some of his ribs and chicken you tell my wife but it was good. Um, Commissioner Hernandez any questions?
Thank you, sir through the chair. I'll continue the theme of very quick thank you DC Sims commander McGinnis their entire team. There was a very delicate situation that transpired as a temporary thing. Just their ability, day after day to be able to, to connect with residents, especially in difficult times and the way that they were able to do that. And then as quickly as they were able to do that. The family is entirely appreciative forever. So just wanted to reiterate that that message to the second one, you might have to go back and get a little additional information unless you have it. We had a family last week that was here. It had an unfortunate I think encounter, it appears. Is there any kind of follow up that you might be able to provide the
board are absolutely absolutely. I've in contact with that particular family. And as you all know, some of you the board knows I don't just community service. We haven't we're in the process of inviting them to a summit. We want to sit down and have an honest conversation between that family and the officers. If they were were involved in that particular incident. And see if we can't resolve this. It's not going to have it's not going to if you're within making a complaint against the officers, but we want to sit down have this honest conversation so that you get a better understanding of what happened on that particular day. So that's forthcoming.
Yes, hastily Ewing. Well, Robin history is to Mr. Robert Lee. Or they will have you seen and can you give us a little update? I know you've been an officer for what, 38 years 40 years. Can you give us a little update on how is cashing suspects in the midst of a robbery whatever robbery is going on? Can you give us a little briefing on that?
Well, most often we don't catch them in in in the progress of a robbery. In this particular case. It's just great work by the detectives in this case, running down the leads. Looking at video, using the assets that we have within the Detroit Police departments who go back and look at certain things. We don't want to give up all our techniques. We know that folks who are customers of ours feature just great work. The officers in our detective units, great job every every day. For them to be able to get these individuals in custody. It took it was a long investigation. We've been looking at individuals for a minute. We had to make sure we had the probable cause for this arrest and we end up getting them in custody. Wonderful. one more chair.
Okay, one more 2500. Citizens were arrested in the month of January. And we still got about two days to go in the month of January. Now there's 2500 That's combined. Is that correct?
I don't have that number in front of me.
No, I don't think what was it? The mental health runs and then a call for service.
Okay. Sorry. I'm all set. Thanks. Thank you.
Commissioner burden.
Sherman, can you come back to come back to you?
anymore. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chief, a couple of questions. You mentioned about the Michigan State Police coming into the Detroit and handling issue. What is the Department of policy or what's the relationship with another entity coming into Detroit? Our border my district borders Dearborn I get complaints like that all the time. Now. We have MSP. So what's the process? Do we work with them? Who do they notify that coming in
if they do at all? Well, we hope that they will notify us when they come in. We do that when we go into their particular city. As it relates to the situation I was speaking of earlier, this was we have a partnership with Michigan State Police we utilize their helicopter. This particular individual and the reason why they were in the city of Detroit would have to take what they do on patrol for us. Individual came out and started shooting at that helicopter and not quite naturally working from Michigan State Police. They call over their radio and in their states troopers responded to that particular location. We invited the microphone they were patrolling. We utilize the helicopter in concert with our helicopters. So when our helicopters down, there is up to
you. Thank you And my last question is what type of preparation is the department doing for large scale incidents tabletop exercises for scale?
What are we doing? routinely? We do those in a lot of those are in concert with our sporting sporting events, arenas. LCA we just didn't want here recently. I believe, I think we got one coming up within the spring at Comerica Park. So we do tabletop exercises every year.
Thank you. Alright, well,
I guess you know what tabletop exercises are? Chair. Okay. I'll just wonder if the public
you can you explain to them a little bit. So
we've talked about incidents that happen around the country, mass shootings, things of that nature, we prepare for those things. For instance, if we thought that there might be a terrorist attack, we plan for that at sporting events. Maybe Huntington place if we think that place might be attacked. With Detroit tabletop exercises. We have resources and individuals coming in from all over. City, Detroit state of Michigan to come in. It will include our federal partners, and we all sit down at the table and talk about what our responsibilities are, who will be in charge in case certain things happen. It's just a hazmat situation. Of course, the TPD will not be the first ones to fire, fire and hazmat will take over that particular situation in a barricaded gunman type things like that. We talked about what we will do from from the Detroit Police Department's li
first of all, sister she thank you for an excellent report. And and please commend those officers at least on behalf of myself. For the whole board, who exercise the restraint when they were actually fired upon and used other tactics to to apprehend the suspect who had actually fired at them, which of course, as we know, gave them the right to fire back because they didn't intend preserved life. Secondly, yesterday, when we were when we were chatting, we talked about one of the things I'd be interested in you are absolutely insane to the extent that you know about the initiatives that you want to start with respect to juvenile crime or if you know anything about what's happening throughout the country on that issue, because right before I came here today, I was watching Fox News and they were talking about enormous increase in juvenile crime in New York City. Not just subways, but throughout the whole city. And apparently this is a national issue. Aggressively because nobody was in school for two years. And everybody just I always tell people, I have been out of school for two years between the ages of like 14 and 16 or 13. Assisting the streets would have caught me for sure. If I didn't have anything to do school was my job. When I don't have school, then I'm obviously subject to two other influences, but I'm interested in what you want to do with respect to that. And then finally, you alluded to it but you didn't talk about it, although it's a major issue throughout the country right now about what happened in Memphis and I know that you have some trepidation about what can or could happen in Detroit. And I think part of it would be related to what what my fellow Commissioners just asked you about about, quote, tabletop exercises. But if you could comment on those three things I would appreciate.
First of all, when you talked about juveniles and what's happening around the country, basically, that was a conversation earlier today. So rather roundtable is what do we do to try to engage the youth, right? A lot of times we're at the table, the only person who is not sitting at the table, or the people who are of that age. We talked about having him at the table asking them, how can we help you What do you need? We don't want to go back and try to assume that we know what they're thinking, what's going to happen with them and how we can help them. One thing that was brought out with a ceasefire we know we do call ins right? We have the individuals comes in, come in we talked to them, but what we found is after they have the conversation, they have to go right back to the neighborhood. So what do we do to help them once they go back to the neighborhood? What services do we offer them? How do we sustain that? You know, and make sure that they go around, go down a fork in the road and take the right turn up a left turn as it relates to incident unnecessary fantasy. tabletop? No, really no tabletop and we do that we prepare for mass protests all the time. We have a unit that we utilize respond to that we're trained to deal with that. And we trained with patients. You know, we know everyone has the right to protest. If you're asking me. Do we agree with what happened in Memphis, Tennessee? Absolutely not. We don't know all the details, but I can tell you what we do know. Apparently the chief of police there found it so egregious that she immediately fired those particular individuals. We don't agree with it. The vast majority of the Detroit Police Department officers here do a great job. Just like any corporation any job. We have that Apple's just not the Detroit Police Department. You can find it in for you can find a jam. But it's unacceptable, unacceptable for anyone who's serving in a position of service who serves the citizens everyday to act in a particular manner and we don't agree with that.
Yes, we just Chairman just wanted to raise this to the chief, a chief and the white of Memphis the case with which five black police officers have been charged with second degree murder of a black man showing that that inhumane policing transcends race also those officers was part of a special unit that appears to have its own culture of toughness beyond acceptable conduct. Such a unit MVP and how does this ensure that their contract does not run wild like Mathis?
I'm not sure what you're saying about you asking do we have the same type of unit? You know,
we talked about a culture that's unacceptable. Conduct. How do we ensure that something like this doesn't run while in Detroit like Memphis?
Well, we have a we have what we call the mass system here. It's early detection system where we try to look at individuals who commit to showing signs of misconduct. We try to catch them on the early end of that. And if we do we have inefficient interventions with those particular officers. I can't speak to what happened in Memphis and how they run their department. I can only speak to how we do it here in the city of Detroit. And I can tell you right now, as has been shown in the past may trip police department currently now we don't set those type of attitudes here in this department. Again, like I said, I can't guarantee you that every officer or police department is going to make it through the career without having some issues, but we try to identify those individuals early so you don't become a big problem did achieve. He is
pleased this cleans talks to the community. A more a little bit more about the math and how you how the department here in Detroit is really you know, really looking looking into that and how and how how that system is important school that that is being used here. For those that may not be aware.
That system was created, you know, the time that we had federal oversight and police department.
What does mass mean?
is a managed management system. This is what it's called. In that anytime we use force in arresting any one individual, there's a report that has to be generated. And that report goes into the system. If you have you hit a certain threshold with uses of force or any other type of misconduct generates a report called peers, which automatically goes to the command and the command officers. Supervisors have to have an intervention with that particular officer to track that on a regular basis. Some of that has come out with some of the promotions here, as I said, is pretty great. For this board, you look at those particular complaints to come for officers and you make a determination as to whether they're the promotion or not. So we have that particular system in place. It's worked very well for us and we're continuing to look at particular systems to try to make it even better.
Mr. Chairman, those are great remarks and I'm glad that this chief was able to elaborate on that for for our community. Thank you, sir.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks, chief for your for your likes as well. A couple of days. One of the things I've always wanted to see is trying to advocate is labor. Labor. Who's our how many neighborhoods do we have? Seven neighborhood be looking like, be as excellent wherever they lead. Can we base it supply the least of every labor. So that's to you in terms of time to really get to the common denominator of making sure that the the children is so forth. That is a good way I feel like just throw it at you you this labor, take it to the next leavings or something. And I can put that together in terms of let you know how to leave our neighborhood. So the second thing I got several calls, and I don't want to act like this is it's just several calls about green light. And tell me I'm supposed to apologize for my lack of memory. But if so, if the if the people have the green light if something happens and the police doesn't come is this Do we have a check and balance? Who wants to do have oversight over the green lights in the police department?
Oh, absolutely. And I'm glad you brought that up. This actually falls under me.
So if it costs $24,000. The fees
have a specific cost but it all depends on how many cameras she wants to set up. So
we have to think about that as transit the poor businessman or businesswoman you in terms of how they can afford something like that, but more than they really got to get off of that. Was it community Greenlight and the police doesn't show up several times who How do I how do I basically how do I tell them to comply there
so we have what we call virtual patrol, okay with regard to green lights, so a call comes out. And if a car is not available to the spot, what we do is we will call back to that particular green light location and ask because we're looking on the camera to see if that particular individual who's causing disturbance is still here. Okay. And we talked to the individual say it you still need to police out there and we handle it that way. Okay. You still have the ability to take any reports you have to we can take that over the phone. We're looking into the business to make sure the threat or whatever the situation is has been resolved.
There's no special number that they can call. They have a special number they call for a green light or just regular police officers. So why why are you
saying well, we have a problem. It comes right into our into our communications will automatically know whether it's a green light location or not.
And has caught a few people just last week, am I correct? In enact LISI home
Thank you, Chair, Assistant Chief. I'm looking forward to your next Community Summit. I'd like for us to be reminded that the Board of police commissioners as a youth advisory panel and it consists of seven phenomenal Detroit public schools, community district young people. We are in the process of discussing this group putting on a quorum. And that forum will be specific. Obviously with them being under the umbrella of the board of police commissioner's civilian oversight, and we're hoping that we'll be able to get young people out as well as their parents. So thank you for your report. Assistant Chief
as always, I'm just how many we have for all communications.
One quick one. Just here. ACU what makes the US Marshals so remarkable. I mean, because not knocking law enforcement agencies, a lot of law and law enforcement agencies. They can be looking for a crook once in months and months and months and years and years and years, but the US Marshals can track them down in a week or two and that's insistently.
program you?
Money, we'll make a lot of money.
Can you explain US Marshals techniques and skills how they can track down the perpetrators in the course and a small amount of time
commissioning? I will have to we do a pretty good job. And we work hand in hand with our federal partners to assist us to some of those information that some of these federal agencies are utilizing to get their people into custody. We're giving them that information too. So it's a shared responsibility on that.
Can EPP what's the hard question? But I got that right.
It's easy question for me. Okay. Easy question for federal agencies have had their databases and things of that nature. You gotta understand their federal right so they can tap into our largest scale than what the Detroit Police Department can. That's why we have task force so we work with with the federal agencies to utilize their abilities to help us track down individuals also.
Thank
you. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, this honorable board. Currently our six speakers and are called the one that's in attendance. Harada Corolla
Thank you.
You have two minutes.
Thank you. I won't use two minutes. Okay. I really appreciate your continued reporting on the
microphone. Can you hear me now? Yes.
I am speaking on behalf of the Friends of the Boland branch library, and it has been reported in the newspapers in many media outlets. And again this morning at the city council meeting, the city of Detroit stole $650,000 from the Detroit libraries and is refusing to give it back to people have been fired. No one has been prosecuted. And according to all involved, the Detroit Police have not investigated this crime. I'm asking for the Detroit Police to follow it up and if you can't, please let us know who can maybe we need those US marshals. But I don't know who can do this. But there has to be an avenue of redress for city residents who pay taxes we're already losing most of our money tax captures taking from the library and giving it to the developers downtown. And the city can take our money with impunity and report to the Library Commission that they are not going to get their money back and that there's nothing that they can do about it. At the same time. The city is attempting to take over the libraries. They have already shown us what they do with the libraries. And I'm urging you to count as elected officials to oppose the city's takeover of the libraries which have been stable until they started getting looted and to have someone please investigate the fact of the $650,000 Thank you.
I'll see Lieutenant mark. So your next speaker will be Minister a district for community advisory council member Scotty Bowman.
once going twice. Okay, Mr. X,
can you can you can you hear me more? Here you go right ahead. Good. This is Mr. Eric blonde from Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Detroit. Yes, it was me this weekend on the millage data show. Reminding Detroit that the horrors that happen in Memphis, Tennessee with the murder of Tyree Nichols should not allow us to forget the horrors that can happen here in Detroit. And the recent events that have happened with the killing of Porter birth and many others, including the coyote wallet
so, hold
this open.
Close one of those you may miss the bar.
Okay. I am right now. Okay. I'm down to one now. Are we okay? Yes, sir. All right. And even the chokehold of the Kaya Wallace, a peaceful protester could have ended tragic Glee but the lack of transparency within the Detroit Police Department is one of the major focuses that prevents truth, justice, transparency and accountability. The chief was wrong last week to suggest that because citizens took over the major streets, that that is the only reason why the footage of Hakeem Littleton was released. Is that what we have to do in order to do things in order to get body worn camera footage within two weeks, like Memphis, Tennessee, and this board is dishonest in his actions to try to address police officer misconduct. For example, an officer with ADEA complaints was not on this board's radar screen. And the interviewer said hey, wait a minute. We didn't know this officer was still on the force. And yet another officer addicted to cocaine. Was this not enough to for this board to remove this officer? Yes, he needs help but he does not deserve to be a police officer anymore. Oh, man. Hello,
board of police commissioners is good to speak to you again. And I should point out that my office is an elected one. And so at the beginning of the meeting when that came up should have been mentioned. I'm not too worried about that. But I'm what I'm what I am worried about is that this board has not focused on revision of the contract. And I know now there is a new contract agreed to but apparently, things need to be planned out. Way ahead of time for anything to make a difference. You might as well start planning for the next one now, and make sure that you have a contract in place by the time it rolls around. That actually respects the authority of the Board of police commissioners to be the final word on promotions. So I'm hoping you do that. Second of all, there was a heartening vote that I believe I heard at the previous meeting, I believe I overheard them actually voting in favor of some kind of motion to give to what I'm saying she was that when there's is a body worn camera present, and for whatever reason the body worn camera is not on and there is a complaint about the incident occurring at that time or alleged incident. That'd be decided in the complainants favor. I think that is a good move to ensure compliance with the body worn camera policy in that nobody avoids accountability by turning it off. So I think that's a really good move. I don't know how much teeth it has just like the bo PC being the final word on promotions doesn't seem to have a lot of teeth. But hopefully there'll be some teeth in that moving forward and I bid you all a great day.
Next week, speakers will be Miss Victoria. So followed by former condition William Davis and Mr. Claude
Lynch. So
honorable board, can you hear me? Yes. Oh, perfect. So I'd like to use my two minutes today to allow the board some time to provide some feedback and discuss next steps on the proposal that I've shared over the last two weeks. You have a copy of it on your desk there again today. You also have it by email. One is the list. The spreadsheet list that I shared that I created to collect and maintain a list of community groups that the Board should be interacting with on a regular basis. And then the other is working with the community group to get feedback on the policies around the non lethal. Like your thoughts on the proposals that you've had them for a little while and if we can talk about next steps on that.
Mr. Chairman, I can respond at least in part, first of all, so I was impressed by your initiative to do that, in accordance with as you pointed out in your memo may calls best practices, but it essentially means is what I tried to do last year, which is obviously try to share proposed policies with community organizations so that they can give us feedback on what they think that's all it is. It's not mandatory. We don't have to take their recommendations, but it gives us It provides the transparency that has been that we promised the community. So everywhere we policy is important from the body worn cameras, obviously just search and seizure. So we just want to know what you think in terms of your community and and, and and what you want to do. I think his excellent idea. I don't know we have a community person, but I'm not sure exactly what that means within our organization. And we've never done this with the community other than once a month at a meeting and of course, they're invited down here to police headquarters, and many of them have objections to that. But policies are what we do. And getting community feedback from the Northwest Community Association of this community association. Awesome calm, we won't respond, but having an organized way to collect those who want to disseminate the information and to get feedback. I think it's important for us, I mean, it's a no brainer for me, and it cost us nothing on that
stream and I'll we'll maybe we should discuss this amongst the policy committee. And then
the policy committee chair he said he didn't want to take it up for the last few days, but, but my point is that the board can act on this just information.
Order comes it comes to a subcommittee to the full board presentation. So I would move that we put it to the policy committee.
Second, second. Any discussion? Mr. Commissioner Burton Mr. Chairman,
you know, I do have some concerns when people are lobbying his board especially when they are applying for certain positions. And in addition to that, as chairperson of the policy subcommittee, I have made myself available where the community can reach out to the board and also to myself and also to the committee. But overall, you know, as a commissioner, I attend countless meetings just like you Mr. Chairman, and the vice chair and many other conditions. So we out there as commissioners out in our community doing the real work, listen to talk essentials, getting feedback, and reporting back out. I think, the policy subcommittee, I emailed as of yesterday on some recommendations and so I just want you to know that we are already currently the winners, but I just think that the lobbying, it needs to stop.
Any more discussion?
Chairman if I may, there has never, ever, ever been an organized approach to reaching out to community organizations formally and getting a response back formally. That is how organizations work. This is how the American Bar Association works. That's how every professional organization in America works. out to people. They get some feedback from an organized, you can't have to share or contact me or contact. we're entitled to the written responses of the community back to and then we can deliberate about that.
Can I ask you this though? And you see there from the shock factor.
He says we contacted 35 organizations, information organizations on LinkedIn. We got their response. Recommendations. That's how business is done.
Right. But what your understanding is, it has to go through the politic me. That's right. So right now there's a motion on the table. For that. Alright, so any further discussion? Yes,
through the Chair, I do have a question which the first one and it might be rhetorical is do we actually need a motion for this process. Going through a subcommittee? I agree with my colleague The second is, once we get the list, and I'm speaking with the HR personnel, Chairperson hat right now. Once we get that list of all candidates for both positions on Monday, I think that will dictate how much action or inaction this board can take until those positions are filled. If there is a community member who is in the running, I would probably suggest and we can check with with our colleagues in the law department, but I would probably recuse myself from that process and I would suggest that others consider that as well.
So much to my colleagues, these two things are apples and oranges. I can apply for a job with an organization. That doesn't mean that an a call representative and National Association of civilians or law enforcement person cannot make a recommendation to the sitting Police Commission about community interaction. There's two things are totally totally disparate. The fact that I'm interested in working for the police department or the commission has nothing to do with my with my community advocacy with respect to something that should actually be asked and answered. It's a no brainer, right.
So what was your motion again? motion, second. Roll call. No.
VICE CHAIRPERSON hope, no. Question. No.
Question again.
Repeating
the motion is to move the issue. Of the propose Michael Best Practices issue with community involvement to the policy committee was to discuss it and come out of policy.
Well, yeah, yes sir Burton.
No. No
more s kresley. No.
Conditional Holland.
Yes. Motion was three. Yes. Six, no. Motion. Motion fails. All right. Any more communication?
former Commissioner Davis. Good afternoon. Can
I be heard? Yes, sir. You
can be heard right ahead.
Well, great, great, great. As almost displeasure being back here in Detroit. I was in Florida for four days see my new granddaughter but I like to bring up some concerns. I think that this board in the police department should be posting quarterly rates on closures. I think that the closure rate has and continues to be low and should be higher. I think more needs to be done as relates to people running red lights in the state of Detroit. I mean, we have people that run red lights like this, no consequence and it appears to be no consequence.
Also
if the Detroit Police Department will not investigate people stealing and misappropriation of funds in the library, is that something that yeah, I want the federal government or the state agency to come and look at you know, you actually you know, tell them they should be investigating. And if anybody is in the city of Detroit is still in public funds, they should
be prosecuted.
You know, we need to do better this, like I said before, I asked that, it should be a policy that if an employee goes on vacation, that the city that the city car should be parked, it shouldn't be whipped up for weeks at a time and unavailable for others. Just like city vehicles should not be going outside the city of Detroit to people's residents. If somebody has a city vehicle that city vehicles should be parked on the job site or wherever until they get back into the city. They should not be driving city vehicles and city gas outside the city of Detroit. Thank you.
I don't mean harm. We always say the police department you don't do cry. And I really understand I can understand all this been said about this but my understanding is you do not have to do cry. In other words, this is beyond our PayScale. So I don't know why we we are entertaining. If we do this, it's not fair to the to the public or to the person that brings it to the board. So I'm just asked you that the chair would rule or at least comment in regards to this so that they will understand that we don't leave this out. Our purview Chairman Okay. All right.
We're gonna move on. This is this is this is the function of this board or oversight for the police department. We handle not once again, we handle non criminal complex. Criminal, we turned over to the police department and we may follow up. Okay, what happened in that case?
That's it.
We handled the budget. That's what we handled handled the police but right, you can you can you can run your your concern. That's fine. Just the open mic. asked me what you want us to do. Something that's not in our power. We just don't have that kind of how I wish we did we go ahead.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, you're right. We're not law enforcement, but we do set policy, the word policy for law enforcement and this is a second person that has come before us that has complained about the police department not investigating a crime that involve the city of Detroit or the mayor's office or whatever. So what are our citizens to do if they can't file a police report? With the Detroit Police Department, because of the person there finally pulled the entity of filing a complaint about another city department to do I think we do have to put together a policy we're not going to do the investigation. We should definitely authorize the state police to do it. Or Attorney General's office to do it. Because the police department can't investigate the library or can't investigate the housing department or when people file criminal complaints when they file criminal complaints that we're gonna sit on our hands and do nothing that doesn't address the problem. So I think we can propose cities are doing but clearly, if a person has a criminal complaint against a city department or persons we shouldn't be able to investigate or an entity should be able to do that. The police department said they will not do it.
All on your own and all I know is Matt lock her Lisa. I'm not a lawyer, but can I have a rule of law departments because this is a waste of time. I know I know this much of the law, but I'm asking can you share with Can we have a a opinion? So we can move on? We got guests here. And I want to see if we can help them at the same time to move on.
I just wanted to see if I can provide a solution. I'm here on the city Detroit website and this is what it says under the Office of Inspector General Office of Inspector General investigation waste, Abreu, abuse, fraud and corruption in the city government that may be body that you want to first start with the Office of Inspector General to make your complaints.
Thank you. Thank you. That's it right there. We thank you.
If there's a question if there's a legal question, this is more like a lot of comedy to address, please submit it in writing through the chair. And we'll be happy to respond to that. Fantastic.
So Commissioner, you would like to have that address? Put your writing concerns, send it to me and I'll give it to the Lancome
chairman. As related to the take home vehicles, I think it's important for the department to kind of explain what why do they have take home vehicles. I think that's important that we're missing from the other side because I can definitely understand the former commissioners concern and people who bring that issue up saving our money wants to create a policy to say that say the light, but I think it's up to the department and then maybe not today. But to spatulate especially why do we need to take home vehicle?
Well, this discussion has come up before and I've since learned that most of them are higher command vehicles and higher command personnel. So when they get a call, you got to be able to respond. So it happened to crime.
Investigators on a call I understand why they have to come from a community perspective. I think it's important if we come to Jesus meeting
that's been answered before class. Okay. Yes, that's how
it has been asked the chairman. It's also an important employee benefit when you have a city car, you have fleet insurance, you have free gas, free maintenance, and you have a fleet vehicle. Now it is true that many people in the department have cars and the GPD and mills department. So that's where they take their cars every day and they come back every day. But in terms of civilian employees for the department versus sworn employees, I think there could be a distinction regarding that and clearly with respect to the employees of the board of police commissioner's take it. Um
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can you hear me? Yes. Last time Yes, you guys have made and my comprehension is very, very high. All my test scores for Community College. costed Elementary School Hardy Middle School, purple High School comprehension is off the chart in English so I do comprehend understand what y'all was saying but nothing has been done. About my situation that I have emails to this department. I have done what they said the Inspector General has me in office. I don't get everything under the sun that I know I went to school for criminal justice. I didn't finish what I know a little bit, but now I don't have details. Well, my comprehension is very, very outstanding. So I don't understand why nothing's been done. But my situation, home invasion. Over $200,000 personalities took the governmental documents took it on my house, like it was the DDOT Transit Police in the Detroit Police involved in it either seen letters to this department plenty of times and other departments. I was arrested on constitutionally held for three days. You know when you went to a Okay mom, whatever their little detention facility. Somebody comes to us to see what the issue is. Nobody came to talk to me Let me go how to get my karate. And in the police also drove away my car. That's the Class C felony never received body cam never received video camera fully discharged. Nothing I haven't received anything. All the little all costume she accidentally happens to have been done to me never have been addressed. So I understand what your last statement was about all that I know did all that and beyond. And I
do understand the Constitution.
Alright, that's it.
I want to say thank you for coming down because I talked to Jim a few times. Right. And I talked to you on the phone.
Talk to you on my blog. Exactly. So yeah, you're President right. So art is never been addressed. Something needs to be done.
If he helped him
to this gentleman, kind of what his complaints are, please Thank you
Okay,
thank you now now. You're sure? Yes.
I've asked a lot of detail in it extra 10 minutes will hit you with 20 Yes, because this is so so important as to what's going on and is asking since it only one Feds invitation, can we have 10 Extra 10 minutes of thought
that they have the 20 minutes that Commissioner Holly has requested
in this discussion. All in favor? Hi.
Oh, hi. 20 minutes.
Thank you so much. Chair. Very good afternoon to you a very good afternoon to the board. I don't know how to feel about that extra 10 minutes, but
what's your name? And can you use the microphone? I just don't hear that. Well,
I know ma'am. I'm trying to turn this on. I'm sorry. Mike. That's what I'm trying to turn off
Can we get a seat?
I guess I got to get this close.
Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for that one does not work. Well. We need a new podium.
Lounge Singer here but I'm Eric doe at the President CEO of the Detroit Wayne Integrated Health Network. Thank you so much for inviting me to present on just matters and things that we do over at D when a very good afternoon as well to AC un who've been a very good partner of ours. And so as a chief white This is a PowerPoint presentation and I'm going to move through it pretty fast just in the interest of time and also understanding that there may be questions to be asked at the end. So if we can, please proceed to the next slide.
So copies of your PowerPoint, I
will make that available. Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, it's in here. It's in the binder. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you so much. So just I know that the first I know talks about just some stats here. Just starting first with you know who you are, you know certain about 75,000 people in Wayne County. That's our core membership. Last year alone, we serve well over 200,000 people and you're talking about mental health services as well as substance use disorder services, autism services, Children's Services, I mean, beginning from birth all the way so you're old and gray beyond my years as well. Certainly recognizing that. Next slide, please.
How many? How many people in Wayne County and how many of the population in Wayne County.
So specifically for the Hollies, you speak in a Wayne County you're talking about 75,000 Plus, but in Detroit alone, well over 40,000 people and that's our core membership. But as I said last year in tribute well over 200,000 people if first starts with folks either call in our one 800 number that's 241 4949 number or reaching any one of our 300 providers within the provider network. And when I'm talking about providers, both outpatient services, and residential services, so when I talk about residential services, for example, sometimes it's referred to as ASC homes. Those are many throughout the city of Detroit, and they're a little over 3000 folks who are in those homes, and they receive services in those homes as well. And of course in outpatient services, any one of our providers team mental health for example, home some folks here may know folks go over that to receive services, outpatient services. Next slide. The next slide. So just if we go back to the last slide, just to talk about some statuary, you know, one in five persons, if you look at just the stats here in America, local mental health condition. Now that doesn't mean that because there's one in five, I mean, that that one individual is necessarily going to receive mental health services. You have many folks who are walking around with going around and not receiving services, partly because they don't know about the services number one, and I think even more important than that there's a stigma when it comes to mental health. I mean, can you imagine it as when it comes to physical health, you know, whether it's something with your heart, you know, there's no problem with us going to the doctor trying to determine what's wrong, or there's something with our vision, no problem there whatsoever. When it comes to mental health, some way somehow there's a stigma that's associated with it. And partly because, you know, when you're going through something, I mean, can you imagine some of the toughest times that you've, you've been through, say the depth of a loss of a loved one or to say, you're struggling with something to admit to someone that just struggling isn't itself making yourself very vulnerable. And so that's just an incident that may occur a few times within your lifetime. And imagine though, that if it's something that is mental that is constantly, you know, a constant struggle to even admit to that, and then you take that further when you start talking about, you know, family members in how many times depending on you know, what culture you're in. It's just Oh, that's just, you know, Uncle Joe, for example, he's been like that for however long, not understanding that Uncle Joe may be struggling with bipolar or he may be struggling you know, with anxiety, all of those things or he may be having suicidal thoughts, and many times as news stories have shown in the last couple of years, it's not until folks reach that breaking point where something happens and then the police just call and when the police is called. So many things that are happening at that juncture, one officer safety to trying to make sure that that individual is also safe, trying to make sure that family members are also safe, but also getting that person care. So imagine all those things happening at once and how do you address that in a very sometimes volatile situation there. Next slide, please. So when we talk about partnership, you know, this is so important, and Jefferson talked about this. Just in terms of the meeting that took place here prior with the US Marshal. Partnerships is so important. You know, as much as we do it when considering the fact that our budget is roughly $1,000,000,000.90 5% of that are Medicaid dollars. So they're coming directly from the federal government. And so when you have providers bill, we then pay them according to those claims that they sent in but partnerships are so important because the things that we do, we can only do them, if we have, you know, amazing partners, for example, like DPP and you know, I know that there's gonna be a couple of times before I get to that, two summers ago when we were you know, just struggling with, with police coming in contact with the folks we serve, how best to make sure that our books are safe, and the police are also safe. So we sat down with the chief and the brasses and we said, look, let's come up with a partnership here. We are willing to invest dollars just as you are willing to invest dollars and people. So we actually embedded our clinicians within the dispatch center. So now when folks call 911, and it is a mental health type call. The dispatchers who are taking those calls are trained in that service to be able to respond to them. We also have officers who are writing a law or clinicians who are riding along with officers to respond to those calls. So I know that when he talked about you know, some of those numbers and as in, you know, as glaring at those as those numbers may made me think about that well over 800 calls. Imagine news stories. Breaking every day, and you don't hear those stories breaking as to the incredible work that's being done. Certainly you will hear stories when something goes wrong. And believe me, I will not stand here before you and say to you that just because an officer have had some crisis intervention training. Nothing's going to go wrong. I wouldn't dare say that. I know and certainly not as a former prosecutor, but recognizing the fact that bad things do happen and when they do or before they do that's put some things in place to prevent that. So we'll talk about partnerships, extending beyond our law enforcement partners. Our hospitals, our court systems, you know, our universities, because we want to make sure that folks are educated and folks are seen in those parts. But then let's also talk about some of those sorts of determinant factors. You know, we are we are going to build a an amazing Crisis Center at Seminole seven Milwaukee where you're going to take that further at seven mile in Southfield and build an integrative structure there that's going to offer both physical health and mental health services crisis services as well. But those structures you would have to drive to them. So now imagine if we can put transportation, mobile, mobile transportation in places so that instead of people necessarily having to drive up to those places, you can actually go within the neighborhood to provide those services and that's what we're doing now and that is so critical. Next slide please. So when we talk about sort of our outreach, you know, perhaps it's just the fact that once you had a kid and we've had nieces and nephews when it comes to tools and services, it is a big deal for me, you know, as a father of a seven year old. I recognize that our kids have been through so much in the past three years. I mean, think about how COVID changed everything for us. And I and I remember when my kid was starting kindergarten having to sit with her desk right next to my because she wasn't in school, and that's just how learning took took place. Certainly I was fortunate to be able to offer her he all of the technology that you can think of for right within my neighboring community. There were kids who did not have those resources, kids who were not going to school and you know, where lunches, you know, were being served. So the importance of school there. So we work with a number of our providers to make those resources available to our children to make sure that you know, food was also being served, you know, providers were going door to door delivering food, delivering homework to those folks, you know, and and that was so critical. So this is just beyond mental health services, you know, what good is it to offer great services if your belly is empty. So when we talk about, you know, community partners, it's not just to talk about it, but also walking into that as well.
Next slide, please. I'm a
huge fan of technology and the reason why is because I feel and firmly believe that in order to reach young people these days, you have to be able to speak and talk the talk a bit. You know, I'm not a fan of texting, but I realized that when my nephew wants to get in contact with me whether it's just for a few dollars, he hits me up with a text so now I have to be able to hit him up with a text as well. Okay, I recognize that, you know, for my mother, texting is our way of doing things. You know, she picks up that phone and holla at me and I have to say, Hey, Grandma, I got you, but you have to adapt. One of the things that we've done at E one was to actually develop an app, and AP because we recognize the importance of this thing call your cell phone here. I can read all of my medical records just on this device here. Now, I'm not saying that everyone is going to necessarily have a cell phone, but imagine this is 65% of the folks we serve, has a cell phone has a cell a cell phone, and they can access their not only their records, they can make appointments, they can see what's within their neighborhood, not just mental health resources, but nutritional services, transportation, that 65% of folks who are now armed with the ability to make those connections. Now I can go out there to the philanthropic community and say, Hey, I have 65% of folks here who are doing excellent work. All I need is just a few dollars for me to get 20% More people or 30% more folks, and by doing so, now I'm giving people those resources to be able to connect. But the absolutely cool thing about technology here at E when it's that this is not just for our members, anyone can access the My D went app, you can go on the App Store and if you have an Android you can do that as well download it, it enables you to tap into all of our resources that are providers services that we provide services with our partners as well. You can access that slide please. The next couple of slides basically just kind of walks you through you know several of those resources that are available and using that app. Now, this is something that is brand new, we launched this last last week here. So you know, if you happen to go to the app and see that there are places that we can make some improvements, please by all means let us know. There's a reason why I travel with folks who are a lot smarter than I am because I recognize that I don't even know as much as I should know. And my seven year old tends to remind me of that every so often. So there goes that but just in terms of resources, you know, not only as I said, the provider network, but also things beyond the network of services that we provide. next few slides please. And I'm trying to save some time here for questions. So when we talk about you know, children and school success there are about 285,000 school aged kids within Wayne County. Many of those kids, you know, certainly not seen that will necessarily need mental health services. But just last year, we were able to reach about some 90,000 kids. Now certainly there are a couple more 10s of 1000s of kids out there who still need those resources. How do we get those kids? What is it that we can do? Is it by social media? Is it by coming into a space like this to let you know about these resources? So there are things that we can do even better and I don't want our organizations to be like that great Italian restaurant that sits in the corner that serves a great pasta meal but nobody knows but just a few people. I want us to be that organization where at any moment at any time you know who we are and we are ready to help and we are there to listen as well. The next couple slides so this is one of those partnerships that truly when you talk about you then see an action when folks in other states are calling to find out what is it that you're doing and how is it that is working. So it's this partnership between D win and DPD has been extraordinary. And trust me, I'm not trying to sell something here. I'm just simply giving you as they say the facts and you know, the lawyer who sits across it certainly knows what I mean by that. But when we talk about the facts here, you know, recognizing that when it comes to mental health, you have multiple things at play. You have segments that you have to deal with. You have contact that's being made with the police, you have the family dynamic that's also happening, but within all of that you still have the safety of the community that you have to be mindful of. So what can you do and how do you do it? And then the most safe, you know, and and at the same time, you know, showing that it has been productive. We sat down you know, with DPD and the classes and we put you know these three programs together first, you know, working because there was a realisation that there were some folks who had called the Detroit Police Department 1000s of times just within a month, I mean can you imagine that 1000s of call by just one person coming in? So we identify these courses first, trying to make sure how can we perform some intervention that is instead of those persons calling now, can we call them before they call us because perhaps there are resources that we can link them to that they're not aware of? We began to do that. But then we also recognize too, that there are those calls that are just coming in because people don't know where to turn. So recognizing that as well. And then of course there's the homeless population. By no means am I saying that everyone who's homeless has a mental health problem. By no stretch, is that my statement? But there is a high population of folks who are homeless who need mental health services. So how do you link those to work? With the Homeless Coalition here in Detroit, but you also work with DPD as well so that the training that we put in place, you know, folks, you know, how to lead with them moving moving forward, and I want to quickly move into CIT, just just a bit there. So if you just move to the next couple of slides Okay, so, you know, so much has been said about the CIT program. And this is Crisis Intervention Team program in Detroit. I mean, the challenges Smith and her team are so diligent to get that designation and this is not something that is easily achieved but took a lot of hard work. For this to be done. But it also has taken a great partnership with numerous municipalities including the Detroit Police Department. It is not a panacea. It is not a cure for every situation that police come in contact with someone we serve, for things for bad things to not happen. It's simply not and so let me just be very clear about that. But what it is, it's a tool that that if used properly, okay. And in the best scenario possible, of officer, an individual who needs services, they both can leave and and peacefully. Something goes wrong sometimes. And it's not the training. It's not because the officer didn't know what to do. It's not it's not because of any of those things. I just hate to say it folks, sometimes bad things happen. They do. But what we must do also though, is that in those moments, let's recognize how perhaps we could have done some things differently, perhaps how we could improve the program, you know, and so all of these things, I'm just going to say are measures that are on the table and we should also be very cognizant of that, as we, you know, are vary as we go about and how we evaluate those those moments when they come about. And so last couple of slides just talks about, as I've already talked about, 707 Milwaukee, the fact that we're going to be building are in the process right now of building a crisis center of 39 beds to be able to, to provide crisis services to folks within the city. There's also our seven mile project that's going to be you know, a 60 bed facility there to provide you know, crisis services, physical health services as well as mental health services. So the project at 707 will be completed by this fall. They said they are not going to give me a tool belt because they know that I will probably just messing up because I want to have it done by tomorrow. The larger project is just going to take a little bit of time there but we are excited about these things that are happening with our partnership with BP. I hope I've given you as much information as I possibly can. But please note too, that I'm always assessable and I think we've left some information with you there but I'm prepared now. For any questions that you may have.
Fantastic, Commissioner,
thank you very much chair, no questions. Just a heck of a lot of praise for the work that you and your entire team. Continue to do. It's not easy work. We know that and I just look forward to touring both facilities once are up and running. Because I think it's great and it's needed. Thank you
sir, thanks
to you, Mr. Doe, and feel what type of finish of a turning around where people are restored back into their right minds.
What a wonderful question to ask. So there are some folks will say to you, we're just trying to get stable, something goes wrong. And we're just trying to get them stable. There are some folks whom no matter what we do, there will never reach that point of being completely heal. Okay. So it's difficult to put a stat on that. But what I will tell you though, is that for every person who received an assessment, or something tragic happens where they go through crisis services for five, seven days plus, when they get stable, we want to continue to follow them because you don't want that moment to come where someone you know, falls through the cracks. So we want to connect them to outpatient services as well.
Thank you two questions, and both have to do with capacity. The first is with the mobile units. What's the capacity of those mobile units? Like how many do you have to be able to serve the city at one given time?
What a wonderful question as well. So we just received a well over $4 million and you know to purchase about 20 to 25 Vans left with her she's gonna purchase 100 But I have to slow it down because she she has to understand that my pocket is not that long. But right now in working with our partners, I'm going I'm trying not to guess yet but we we need more more hands than we have. But we're building our crisis center. By this fall, we'll be able to add an additional 20 vans to the fleet that we already have.
Okay, excellent. That's amazing news to hear. As a pastor of a church I'm interested in to figure out how we might be able to integrate our services with different events, we have to be able to provide those for people in the community at the same time. Second question in that same vein, obviously amazing work that you're doing but with the numbers that we hear from DPD, about calls that were made with the incidents we're seeing on a news, obviously, there is a overwhelming capacity, that I'm sure it's probably overloading even the services that you have. And so I'm wondering what the CIC program particularly as officers have been trained in that, is there a component where regular average community citizens and engage and be CIT trained, so that they might be able to be those ambassadors in your neighborhood?
Oh, absolutely. And in fact on Monday and Tuesday, we are conducting CIT training for executive now, I don't know why they call it executive because I would hope that anyone would be would have that opportunity to attend. We will also have Mental Health First Aid training as well that we offer to anyone in the community. And so these are services that are certainly available. So yes, thank you.
Yes. Commissioner Presley's question, I believe we were offered the opportunity to participate in some of those CIT trainings. They came from the sheet, and I don't know, I guess, I guess we can still receive those opportunities. They tend to be contained in our binder. So I don't know if I ever understood that we commissioners could participate in those trainings. If they were just exclusive to DPD
definitely not exclusive to DPD. And if you just indulge me, just share why happened Miss Smith, just speak a little bit more on there.
Good afternoon, Andrea's gonna be when? So it is for law enforcement officers, specifically, specifically those on patrol. But executive force is that because we want cheese captains, mayors, etc. To understand what their officers are being trained in. So that's what we invited you to that is on Monday and Tuesday, the 30th and 31st mental health birthday just for anyone.
So how could we receive an invitation or one?
We sent it specifically to the bo PC?
And oh, you will we did?
Yeah. Yeah.
Just for Quick follow information. How would you explain the difference between the first would you said the first responder first aid training versus the CIT training.
So Mental Health First Aid is eight hours, and it's training as a gatekeeper and that is showing you how to recognize signs and symptoms of mental illness and substance use disorder. So you are receiving a certificate and Medicaid. So you're that diagnosing and treating but you're just able to recognize so you can connect people to care. See it forces 40 hours. So we have judges prosecutors office, service providers come in individuals who have lived experience come in as well as peace officers. I have a class going on right now, which is justice. And the officers experience different group activities and scenarios. So you are invited to view those scenarios, if you like. The President Chair of your board actually has attended to view some of those things. And so that is something that we make available as well. Thank you.
Commissioners and on the public know I'll be attending class come Monday, Tuesday. Wonderful.
Wonderful,
it is eye opening experience.
I got one more quick one more quick one very important, you
know, now do you have in house for your warriors, staff to help out he's convinced all patients that dealing with these chemical imbalances and things because we're changing things I don't know. If you have that instituted in your organization, but to change
things. You know, one of the slides that we had out there talked about our faith based community we have a very huge, you know, faith based community and believe me, you know, I know who I lean on so it is not any wonderful. Yes, absolutely.
Sir, just have a faith based committee as well. And that meeting does that maybe doesn't meet monthly. So we can have the invitation sent. We focus on prayer, but also prayer plus. So we include various faiths and we have an annual conference and invite actually DDP has participated in that previously by presenting workshops and, and chaplains as well have presented or offered prayer rather, but that is our component purpose.
To be sure, thank you. I just wants to just just say, I'm happy that Commissioner Presley and our Vice Chair raised some concerns as well, about the mental health training. I know many of us have some additional hours of training with mental health first aid to the Heiko, but over the years, but overall, I always felt that our communities, some training in the business community as well. But it would be nice if this board as well as other elected officials, especially the Police Board. We oversight the police department to be able to get into this 40 hour training block. That's very important we out in the community as well. In addition to the president, how does your expertise interact with law enforcement and how do you measure the outcome of the programs that's focused on mental health and I appreciate you coming to the board and providing your presentation. I'm taking a lot of notes today.
Thank you so much. No, you know, we are funded by the state. So our metrics in terms of quality of the services that we provide through the provider network are all things that are measured. You know, now in our partnership with EPD. Those stats are reported. AC just from pulling them out. I mean, there's a central office now that deals with all of that. So any preaching that you know that deals with folks where they come in contact with with a mental health Nexus, we get those stats we pivot to figure out you know, perhaps we need to put more resources in one, one section compared to the next. So those are all things that you have to measure. But at the same time, I never will claim that we have all of the pieces and so when I had an opportunity to present you know to a body such as this, I'm very open mind as he Hey, what are some things that you're thinking about that we may not have had to consider and believing that this group is always afraid to travel with me because they say I always say yes to everything. But when a good idea comes about I'm not afraid to you know, pillage it and say, Hey, why can we make this work? You know, so please, by all means more.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You mentioned Mr. President, you're just traveling staff. Can you introduce your staff? Oh, sure.
Absolutely. Folks, we're much more than we have. Stephanie Devon over here, our communications director, who always tells me when I'm going in the wrong direction, and that's often you have Smith here, who changes her title every time but she's involved with all of our work with young people as as well as our innovative resources and services. And of course, Miss Brooke Blackwell, who's my Chief of Staff. She's the one who gives me my permission slips to build places that I need to be.
To work with questions. She's got a magic wand. What would that be? So make your program just so overwhelmed? What would what would that magic one request be?
People always go to the dollars first, but I'll tell you this, it would be outreach. And what I mean by that is that the more people who know about the services we have, the better they can put those services to use our free and it would be a shame for folks to not know that they have free resources in their communities, and we're right here. So to me, that is the biggest thing I can ask for money all day long. But if people don't know about what I'm going to do with that money, and what is Am I really making up so truly making sure that folks know about the resources.
My final question is how often do you work with the Department of Education seems like our youth is where we need to start at are a lot of initiatives are like the assistance you see a lot of times we ignore our youth they should be at the table with this. How do you have a relationship with the Department of Education Absolutely.
And me know when you're talking about sort of a larger department, you know, that we don't have as robust as we should. But when you're talking about sort of your local school system, whether it's DPS and other you know, municipalities Absolutely, I mean, our school initiative that we that we do, you know, was broadly built around that where providers are going into the schools to provide services. We're working with those 11 Children providers, but also making it known to through general fund dollars and other resources that we have for summer youth programs and as such, but you know, that is where I will say if we had additional dollars to reach those kids, just commercially I travel to cities and I see young people working in different spaces. I must admit here in the city, I don't see a lot of that where opportunities for young people to be employed are available. And I know you know, we were talking about stats chairman in which one of our colleagues talked about that age group between 13 to 17. And I'm thinking to myself what resources do we make available in the city for that group right there between 13 and 17. And so it may just be something to just think about, they're
like down to the commission a lot.
I want to thank you well, on for your presentation and for your acknowledgement counselor, and also congratulate you on your appointment as Executive Director, President, if you will, of D win. It's a tremendous accomplishment personally and professionally. Certainly three really three key points. That you mentioned that your budget is a billion dollars, you have material say that you own that you have you will add 39 beds. I want to know how many beds you have for inpatient treatment. And I assume that some of those are segregated for people, for example, who are alcoholics or people who have, you know, drug addiction other than alcoholism? I'm interested in that number one, because you have tremendous resources, and probably the largest agency of your largest agency of your kind in the state, but also in Wayne County. Secondly, you mentioned that your contractual relationships with DPD so we may have similar contractual relationships with other police departments. Do we pay you for that relationship? Or do you pay less and I'd like to know how much that costs. And then the third thing, final thing is and this is probably the most important thing for for all of us in the room. And that is and it's the problem that my fellow Commissioner Holly is weighs at least 20 times and that is, what is the state doing about this? What part does the state play in mental health particularly hospital services since they close our hospitals here in Wayne County. Those are my three questions. And again, thank you for being so generous with your time today.
My pleasure, man, thank you so much. You might buy tickets from three and go to one. Okay, so starting with number three, just in terms of what the state is doing. There is a profound push into putting folks within the community because there's a recognition that, you know, we need to have folks as much in the community as possible, but also recognizing that there are some folks who are going to need long term care. So you know, whether you go back to a couple of governors ago, you know, where those hospitals were closed. It certainly created some challenges. And so right now, those are some of the challenges that we are dealing with knowing that, you know, folks are in our communities who perhaps need some long term care but those are not necessarily available like the way they used to. So right now the state is recognizing that there doesn't need to be building of those sites. And I think the governor may have spoken about this, but there are some well over $100 million that's going to be invested in the building of another state hospital. So that should be no, it is not going to be in Detroit. They haven't selected a site yet. I know that there were some questions as to where exactly that would be. There was some talk about, you know, Northfield, and some folks here, you know, raised some some concerns, but that's the information that I have now, certainly, we'll be able to provide this body with further information as it relates to that. The contractual question which was asked, this is a pure relationship here based on how can we improve things for each other at $1 amounts, here are the dollars that we invest in DPD invest as well. So when you when you think about all those folks in the in the dispatch center, our philanthropic community have contributed immensely to this. So we took close to just a little more than $600,000 and invest it but then our philanthropic community also came in heavily as well. But DPD in the city of Detroit came in heavily with actually hiring false training loads false getting them you know a to accept this their officers as well. So there isn't really sort of bad, quick record type thing going on here. It is a partnership and it is a hard good one, believe me, you know, and it's not easy to achieve and you have the buy in and have the buy in as chief white and that has a budget item. No, not not in that regard, at least not up from our perspective here. And then I'm hearing whispers to me here I'm hopefully I'm capturing everything because you know how it is sometimes. So in terms of the number of beds, you know, please allow me to come back while at least provide information. So I'm more specific on that because there are several dynamics that's going on here. You have residential beds, which we have, you know, well over 3000 folks in that setting, but then you also have sort of like your crisis stabilization beds where we have several providers, you know, Team cope, who provide those services, but that's just for a short term period. But then you also have some of our hospital partners that will provide it on a longer term but certainly not a term of yours. So that's also a component there, too. So for me, mastic Yes, Mr. Chairman, I'll be very obliged if you would allow me to provide that information at a later date.
Absolutely, sir. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Hi, oh order thinking questions presented by my colleagues. Thank you. Thank you so very much, because mine will come off as sorry Elementary, yesterday you at Ewing and the chairperson, attended a forum. And the chairperson mentioned earlier that one of the frameworks of the discussion has to do with how young people behave when there's, well they spend a plus some A plus some hours. During the school day and then they go home. Is there is there a discussion of packet or statistics that we the board of police commissioner's Youth Advisory Panel to use? Because we're interested in creating a forum whereby we're going to invite young people and and hopefully, their parent or adult guardian? Absolutely.
No, we have our youth united group that we work with, certainly and that information will be made available to you as well.
Okay, thank you. I look forward to that.
Thank you. Commissioner Harvey.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Doe, I don't know where they found you. But you are. You are really your call to this purpose. You give them a call and I just I liked your demeanor, like and how you really handling all of this. I just want you to know I'm just I'm just glad to know that you're there. I want you to know that. A few months ago, there was a concern about civil concern about what's going on in the state how they've got to take what wants to come in and aid what's going on in Wayne County. You don't have to deal with it if it's nothing to deal with. But I want to make sure that we understand where you got this kind of budget. You got this kind of budget. I don't mean no harm but I'm trying to see without seeing anything that you got to target on your back. Especially when you're talking about the show it is anything that's going on in the state that you don't want to hit you might want to share with a minute or two that we might need to know in terms of that. Intimidation may be going on. Sure, sure. Thank
you so much for calling in. Thank you so much for those kind words. Indeed. You know a year ago when the Republicans had control of both chambers, they were working very closely with the health plan to take over the delivery system of behavioral health on the public scale. So they were basically going to give it to the health plans, and you're talking about some $3 billion here at the end of the day when it comes to public health behavioral health system. And so there were a lot of advocacy work done, you know, against that, and I had no issues working with health plans. I think we all can admit that we have health plans, but the fact is when it comes to the services that is provided in the public space the health plans won't build those relationships and have those relationships that we do. There are reasons why we go door to door and deliver food homework one and make sure transportation is there. Mr. Chairman, when you make that appointment for our dental work, I'm sure your dentist make how need to make sure you make that appointment but they're not driving up to your house to make sure that you get there. These are things that we have to worry about. If you don't have those relationships with law enforcement and hospitals in other words, you know, that we have to build so that's also very critical as well. But you're talking about many of our providers that are right within the community. And that is so important because transportation can become an issue for full. So imagine, you know, a single parent, your kid needs autism services, knowing that you have to travel, you know, miles in order to get that but imagine now within the public system that you can call our mobile service and have that done or you can have, you know, a clinician come to your house to provide that service. Those are all things are such great value in the public system that you will not have. So, although we don't have that threat now because of the fact that both chambers and the governor's office is controlled by the Democrats. But I don't want us to, you know, rest on our laurels because this is a perfect opportunity for us to put forth a design that says we can deliver both physical and mental health services to folks without having to tear the system apart. There are a few things that we can change but we don't have to tear it apart to do so.
Because it's just the last question. And once again, I before the pandemic, I was pastoring a church and next door was school and and I worked at a school really, almost like a third of my time. What I found out and what we found out, though, is that 50% of the kids parents were Minister Leo so the kids were coming with debate behavior because of what was going on in the home. So they basically for mental health problems. My concern is based upon what I'm hearing and I think a couple of people text on it and that is with the education department. We're talking about cheese in the classroom. I'm telling you, I'm to tell you what I saw for myself and I'm glad to see I'm a creature and I'm telling you that these kids were having problems with a little help parents are a parent, no parent. And so is there anything that you can maybe start thinking about? Because I'm not hearing that? I hear you want to talk about kids in the classroom, but there is something you see when you go behind that is apparent there. And then that person is not being served. And, and the kid is acting out behavior because of the relationship is going on at home. Is it anything that you can think about how we can integrate those two? Because otherwise we're going to have a a generation problem of mental health. You follow me and make any sense to you? Yes. Sir.
Always, always. What a great assessment. You know, he say we provide services not just to the individual is to all of the individuals that are around that individual as wraparound services. And again, Chairman when we were in the last hearing here that stats that that stat that came out about 13 to 17 years old. And then he also talked about how the number of shootings and homicides have gone up. You can imagine for every young person who is in that setting, that's something that he or she is seeing every day whether it's gunshots, you know, whether it is you know, just a horrible crime. They're witnessing that every day and some way somehow we think that they're going to be okay, there is no way that you're going to be okay seeing those things. The governor talked yesterday. About, you know, early preschool at age four, there is some real important reasons why that that is necessary because now you are taking that young person and putting them in an environment where they can actually learn, socialize with others, you know, learn other things besides what may be going on directly in the home. So from Halloween, we talk about services. It's not just the mental health services to the individual, but it's also to the parents as well. When we talk about our children's services. We are educating, you know, mothers before they even deliver that baby in terms of you know, those those those challenges, abusive relationships, we are, you know, taking care of others in those circumstances as well because there's a recognition that it's not just this individual or all of the persons connected to that person. So from Holly This is where folks from the faith based community and in other parts of our community plays such an important role in connecting with us because this as I began this presentation, we don't have all the answers, but we can certainly lean on some folks who have those that we don't have to beef up some resources here. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Thank you so much. I know for a long time we've been trying to get you here for over a year now. And you're here.
Thank you so much.
With the insistence on Commissioner Holly. Yes.
much for having me and I hope not to be a stranger if you invite me again.
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right through the chair. Okay, commissioners, you have the budget DPD budget in your packet. Mr. Zarco will be presenting on February the second. The Budget Committee is asking you to please go through this packet and be prepared to ask questions of listeners. So that's February 2. Be prepared. Thank you chair.
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Two things, Mr. Chairman. We took a vote earlier that we weren't going to revert with the recommendation regarding community input. To the to the policy committee and I agree with that because obviously Policy Committee Chair have already said he wasn't going to address one I want to make a motion that the board however, consider it and that we implement it we have a quote community person that's a full time employee with full benefits car cetera, who works for the board of police commissioners, I see no reason why that person cannot assume that responsibility. So I would want you to consider that as an emotion. Secondly, however, and probably more importantly, as your colleagues to caution the board about discriminating against applicants for employment to this board because they are community members. That is very troublesome. member of the church community and I come to the community every week. And I subsequently apply for a position with the church. You cannot hold it against me the fact that I'm advocating on behalf of my community before that organization and comments were made today that has essentially said that we cannot consider this person because they have suggested improvements to our association, which makes no sense. Make it very clear to the board.
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I'm gonna repeat it again. closed session pursuant to section eight A of the Open Meetings Act MCL one 5.268 H the department is requests for the board to consider administrative leave. Hey, what medical benefits for police officer Julio Somani badge 4584 assigned to the top precinct that's two thirds roll call vote is required. We asking for motion to go into closed session.
So moved.
Second, any discussion? Oh. Yes.
VICE CHAIRPERSON hope. Yes. This is London. Yes.
This is epic banks. Yes. This is really Burton Yes.
Ricardo more. Commissioner. Yes. Sooner rather than Holly. Yes. Conditional quantities but yes. This is chair the motion passed.
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