IM JUNE 2022 - INTEGRATION CALL #1
6:54PM Jun 30, 2022
would it feel good to just do like a quick five minute set together yes drop into the field
Why don't we do that
a whole time you guys feel free to close your eyes and start finding some spaciousness?
Events just finding the back of your heart
so you can notice the quality and the texture it's closed maybe it's open just what's the what's your current state
if you can also just noticing everybody else here and just somehow somewhere connecting with them
you could do eyes open eyes closed just want to tell you the my appreciation and gratitude for continuing to show up to do this work in whatever capacity you can. Then this last minute, maybe just asking yourself what would feel the most supportive for you today
it could be anything
you may want to you may have a question you may have an experience you want to share. Maybe you just want us to sit with you for five minutes today and give you presents whatever would feel the most supportive for your process, whatever's happening in your life would feel resourcing
really feel into to that and
there might be a little bit of an edge there and asking for support the way that you actually want it.
Okay. So that was time
then since it's a small group, if you can just feel free to unmute yourself, and I will give you everything I
got. Great, thanks. Good question on global marketing
a product I've been working on for a while, like, in the horse world, there's, you know, gear for days, but everything's bling, and it's really expensive gear and, and horses are quite expensive creatures to maintain, and all of that, and compete and all that sort of thing. But the gear can be worth 1000s of dollars. So I've got this particular product, that's a bit of a secret, but I want to go about the right way and potentially have or find someone to, you know, who's done it before to do, like, global marketing and the best way forward. And I'm a little bit, you know, like, particularly on the weekend when I came home, and felt so safe. And it was just now this morning waking up into this timeframe, like, okay, and then really kind of hits I've got the product turned up yesterday from overseas, and now it's like, Okay, now what do I do, but to set to stay safe, and then move forward with action? inspired action? I think just feeling into that, and the best way forward.
Yeah. I love that. So we're talking an E commerce product. A physical product?
Yeah. Yeah. And it could be that it's pre sales, and, and it'll be distributed from overseas. So I don't really physically have to have it here to then ship out. Right? Yeah. Are we talking
about like a Amazon type thing? Or just like a standalone company that would sell direct to consumer?
Yeah, both? Okay.
I mean, on the logistics side, you know, there's obviously the typical outreach to the network. And I'm even happy to if you give me some particulars to ask in our network, since that we have, you know, quite a few people in those businesses, we're actually have an E commerce business. And we're actually starting to some product development to that's pretty early stages. I want to offer that like, if we if we stop looking at a business as a linear process. Okay, wealth building is a linear process. The scientific community might call it like nervous system response, limbic system response. There are like, it's funny, because when we get stuck in trauma, it's like a energy moving around a circle, the energy is moving, but it keeps moving around in the same location. And so internally, it feels like something is happening, but nothing is ever actually happening. And so what needs to happen is the energy needs to stop looping. Psychologically, we call this like re enactment, right? And this can happen in the limbic system. And right now, we're actually in a process of beginning to understand exactly how to even go, like physically into the body and stop this limbic process, because what for some people what ends up happening, and this will be full circle into your question.
They process energy. And nothing's happening.
For some people, they process energy, and so much is happening. And so to us, what we're noticing is there's a limbic system response. And so some people clear it and then recreate, clear it, recreate, clear, recreate, and they keep re enacting stuff. And so like we're looking at, okay, well,
how do we do both?
And the irony is, it's like everything else in life. It's like, everyone wants a quick fix, but it's just habit. Like, if you clear energy in your body, finally feel free, safe, good. And then your next moment is worry. Your mind starts focusing on worry, you're already moving towards that reenactment. Again, part of the habituation process from like taking, you know, clearing metabolic stuff in the system. And again, I'll talk about how this relates to your question. During that metabolic is then not going back into the pattern, which is to regenerate new neuronal pathways when you're having a certain mental response. So like, let's say you clear something around a relationship, then you look at them, you get upset. All the road, that's old neuronal pathways. And there's a choice to be made at the point of upset. And I'm not talking about bypassing, because if there's some process going on in the system that needs to be cleared. We need to get to neutrality first. And then it's like, okay, they're upsetting me. But in that moment, there's a choice. It's like, well, what can I find this beautiful about them? What can I find that's beautiful about them? Where can I find this beautiful about them? Okay. And so in business people do this, too. They like reenact to their trauma or money. Or like the hardships Romany? I'm not saying that you have that, but I'm just using this as an example. So Yulin kind of mentioned that the event but I literally just got off the phone with her and, and I can't tell you that I understand how this stuff happens. However, one of our clients that's been with us for three years was literally homeless. At the word go at the time, we were running the collective so we had like that $9 A month subscription. So that's how she could afford it. Her daughter first found it, they were both like, they would just sit on the event and just fucking smoke cigarettes. Just changed smoke cigarettes the entire time. Little House, she was homeless kind of broke. As of this week, she's become a multimillionaire.
Wow. Three years. And
it's crazy because she didn't lift the finger to to make that happen. She didn't, she didn't have a crazy idea. She didn't develop a business. She didn't go looking for people. It turned out there was some land in the far off country that her family owned, that got gifted to her. And in this week, literally out of the blue, a man approached them and said, I want to buy all of it. Commercial and agricultural land, like everything. I didn't even ask her how much but it's in the multitudes of millions, I mean, like life changing money for the rest of her and her family. how that comes about. I couldn't tell you have I seen stuff like that happen to people regularly. I mean, not to everybody. But let's say five or 10% of people have these like, absolutely miraculous things, as they clear. So I'm using this as an example because it's like, you can plan as much as you want. I'm a planner, you know, I like I like process and procedures, I like business running smoothly. I like all those things. However, when it comes to the people I'm in relationship with in business, like our team, we do this. There's no team that there's no team call that starts without us sitting and getting into connection first. Never happens. There is nothing lingering in the systems of anybody in the company. If someone's upset about something, we do this work. Because what I'm looking for is clear, energetic meridians and everybody's body so that when we're all focused on something together, the energy has somewhere to go, it doesn't get stuck in the system. And so like, my point is, like, go to the planning stuff, like go do both. It's never one or the other. For me, it's like, go do other logical shit. go reach out to your network, tell them what you're looking for. You don't know who's going to pop in. And recognize you really want to pay attention to when I'm doing the reach out.
What's reaching out?
Am I in scarcity while I'm reaching out? Am I desperate? Or whatever it might be right? Like, what what's the quality of this reach out which part of me is doing that reach up, and I wouldn't do the reach out until that's clean. Basically, in the system, then I've seen you'll just see it goes much, much smoother. Or, again, like as you do the work like in her situation. It just kept finding her. And like you read the surrender experiment and you know, Michael singers book and it's like, he didn't do anything. It just kept finding him. He just kept having to say yes to what was unfolding in his life. And so if there's if there's any friction in moving this forward, part of it is just saying yes to the friction.
Yeah, not alleviating the friction. Just
be like, Oh, that's interesting. There's friction. Now I'm actually going to sit with the friction. That's what this woman did for three years, feels her relationship with her son healed her relationship with a family literally got gifted a home that you're living in right now. Done, this land came now the buyer came like, there was no searching on her behalf whatsoever. That's her path, there might be a little bit more, you know, some action that needs to be taken. So that that, to me is how you kind of can handle both sides of it. And I mean, I would use, you know, for me, it's like I use every business opportunity to like upgrade my spirituality, because not everything goes smoothly, like, there's ups and downs in business all the time. And it's like, there's parts getting hit in the system. So here's the here's a little hack. Okay, here's a funny hack. Do you guys know Robert Kiyosaki? Like Rich Dad Poor Dad Okay, so he has a game. Like if there's anybody interested in like wealth upgrades, more money, yes, I'm Imagine if no one ever says no to that one, right? Fantastic anyway, but I'm gonna have you guys ever played a game like a board game, and then you're really fucking disappointed you lost and you're like surprised at how upset you are or like any game, maybe go play tennis or whatever it might be right. So he developed the game called cashflow. Okay, you can download it on your phone, or you can get it and play with your kids. There's a kids version. And it's one of the few games that replicates how one becomes wealthy in life. Okay, that's because it's called Cash Flow. It's basically like an how, however, the rich invest to get out of the rat race. And the reason I say this is, because the game replicates life, you can retrain your system. By playing this game, just repetitions, these are these are things you would hit anyway, if you were building a business or investing, you're going to hit these things. And so what you want to pay attention to as you're playing the game, is what's disappointing. Like, if you don't get out of the rat race, if an investment goes sideways, all those things. And it's like, again, the brain can't tell the difference between what's real and what's not real. It just, you know, whether it's fictitious, or whatever it's responding. And there's an energetic response. And you can work through your parts around money by playing this game. You can do with monopoly too, if you really want it to or you know, anything that has to do with relevance to investing or growing capital or whatever it might be. So I just have it on my phone. I play it a few times a week, I check out what gets hit, I do the work, I clean it, things get easier. It's just what happens. People who are really struggling around money, we've lineage trauma around wealth. So it's like it's, you know, if you clear it, fuck, man, the craziest stuff happens for people, you know, and like, just completely unexpected. And I see for us how much easier everything has gotten investment opportunities have gotten, where to put our money. Things don't go sideways, and business partnerships, like they used to go like, everything's just so much smoother. So I know, that's not directly answering this exact situation. But it's like on the holistic front. That's just why it gets a shift.
What it actually is really relevant. And thank you for that. Because, you know, when I was in my marriage, it was easy flow, I think and I made it mean, that love created money. Because so in love this was so easy. And you know, we had a massive company. So when I took my love away, that's when the empire crumbled. Yeah,
I think that's a really, that's a very good inquiry, because it's like, again, this is an obvious question, but it's like, we all want to experience more love. Yeah. And so if you start getting that, like, there's no relationship coming, that can ever fill the type of love that you think you deserve.
They can't, they just can't meet you. Right, because
it was never intended that way. Anyway, unconditional love has nothing to do with unconditionally loving somebody else. It only has to do with unconditional Love towards yourself towards the self. You can fill yourself up to a place where that love with another person is not the love that that's like human love. And then there's like spiritual love, right? Like unconditional, doesn't even matter. I'm not here because you need to fulfill me. I'm not here because I'm empty. And that's that's just a merging pattern, right, like a merging or merging compensated pattern. And so again, like, just things to consider what happens when you love yourself unconditionally. What happens when you're walking around with an open system that's ready to receive. And I'm not talking about it as material wealth, it's just like, it's just open for receiving receiving connection. receiving your own love. Receiving energy, receiving resource, like life is a lot harder when we don't have support around us. And any good business person will tell you, I've gotten wealthy because I'm going to leverage. Right? So for example, like how much work can I do in an hour of time? If I can enroll 100 people to do what I request for an hour, I've just 100x My, my, my efforts, right? And so these are the things that I can tell you wealthy people are happy, because I've never met one, but I because they're not fulfilled on the spiritual side. They take care of all the material stuff, and then it's an empty hollow shell, and they don't know what to do. Because they did all the things that society told them that makes one happy and they're not. It's a very scary place to be when you don't do the spiritual work. I've seen a lot of people have like, like serious serious breakdowns when they get there. So, you know, it's like part of it is like, yeah, I want to be wealthy and it's like, I don't know actually offer like, take care of the spiritual stuff first, because you're going to get there anyway. And then when the wealth comes, you won't sabotage it. Because you won't have to throw it away to learn those lessons like you'll you'll learn them prior to getting there I can tell you London are the wealthiest people on planet Earth, we've helped a lot of people get very wealthy. But we're but the on the spiritual front, like I know, like, when it's time, it's time, like for that for that level of wealth to be here. And I know that, like I'm doing the work that's preparing to hold that much energy and to be able to facilitate like, there's a reason for the energy to be here, not just because I want to buy a Porsche or something like that. Whatever it might be. So yeah, it was a helpful,
very, thank you. And it just actually what you just said in that conversation helped me drop back into the space of my own life. Right. So that's the most important thing anyway, from that safe space comes, like I say, the connections and the path forward with least resistance. Yeah, yeah,
that's it. Otherwise, you know, God, I don't know that relationship, you know, maybe what what made the decision to survive all parts I needed to survive parts, I needed to feel safe. And so again, it becomes this like, out there, the things have to make me feel safe in here. But that's just the symptom, covering up the symptom, the source never got dealt with. Right. And so like, of course, like the relationship is, may not stay together, because it's like, well, it's very, it's very fragile. Anything can break that up to the upset between each other because again, the source like what's underneath hasn't changed. And this can only cover it up for so long. So that's like, if we come back in, we start recognizing, like, the outer world doesn't change the inside world. And what we really care about is the inside world. Like if you were just good internally, money may not matter to you, it may, it may be part of your journey, but suddenly may just not matter to you. Like I don't really get a lot of fulfillment from that I actually rather go live on a kibbutz in Israel, you know, and like work on a farm and just like be with people like maybe that's like the ultimate fulfillment. I don't think there's anything wrong with wealth building. I think for most people, they're going about it in a very unhealthy way. Mm hmm.
That's awesome. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Keep checking your parks games, the games weirdly really help I get that actually works. Thank you. Yeah. And then and then if you want PEP, let me know to the details that you can give me if there's stuff that there's just like trade secret or something you don't want people to know, that's fine. But I could certainly reach out to her or network and find out some of the support you with that. Yeah.
grateful, thank you very much pleasure.
A lot of that conversation resonated with me, I am switching jobs this next year I teach. And for a while, I was really struggling because the job that I'm moving into, I'm getting paid the same amount, but it's literally like a third of the work that I've done before. And so it was more so that I was worried that I would get an attitude. Not that I actually had one yet. I was like, I don't want to hate this. I don't want to be mad about this. Right. So much harder doing this other thing. And really just after the live event, I finally feel like no, it's fine. Like I can be happy about this. I did my other job for nine years and I loved it and I'm walking away from it in a really good space. And I can just be happy about that but for gosh, probably two months the money aspect of it. Just knowing the effort versus money part of it. I was so in my head about it and so worried that like I was gonna let that affect me not realizing like putting all that energy into worrying about it affecting me. Yeah.
A little bit. Is there a certain asking there as well?
Um, I I think that like
i I'm learning to have safety for myself. Yeah. But not like with other people. And so I think that part of it, too, is something new coming in. And so I know I'm gonna have to rely on other people to learn this new thing. And it's so much easier. Like, I knew what I did before. Yeah. And now there's this little bit of a switch. So it's almost like, the more I can get to a point of just experiencing something after a while, but I always struggle with it. At first, yeah, like, what am I going to do, I have to like, the efforting part, part of it is very, very strong.
First, let's talk about why that is, okay. So we're gonna do a little energy tracking on yourself, and you guys can check her energy if you want to go along with it too. And then we'll I want to explain to the distortion, and then how to get out of it. Okay. So if you close your eyes, I'm going to point at some where the energy may be going, I don't want to lead you, I want you to self identify, Okay, I want you to notice if the, if your energy is often by your feet, like you're actually a very grounded person, you feel like you have a ton of energy down toward the feet. Yeah. And then if you come towards the solar plexus, you're going to feel the energy is actually pointing in, almost like arrows pointing in, and there's a tightness there, they feel that. Okay, your your system, if we're using like character styles, to name it, again, there's so many different disciplines here. We call this the enduring pattern. It endures really, really well. The trauma usually for the system comes from like you, as a child, it's like you kept putting your hand out, you kept trying really, really hard. And there was no real feedback to tell you that you were good, or that your attempts to be good or like, you know, maybe you're trying to be smart. Or maybe you were trying to be authentic, it didn't matter really what you tried, it was a moment that just never told you that you're good in any way. So eventually, the system just kind of collapses in on itself. It goes internal, and it stops looking for support outside it becomes extremely self sufficient. Does that seem somewhat accurate? Yes. Very much. Okay. And so this system is your like, as loyal as they come? Is that true? Yeah, super loyal. And you don't go to anger easily. But if you do, it goes nuclear. Right. Yeah. So yeah, so like, so there's a disowned anger piece in there, too. Which means there's the fire is now online, like the heart is not online. And so there's not a lot of energy movement. And it usually probably feels for you. Like you want a lot of time and space to make a decision that so? Like, you don't you don't want to be moved fast into something.
Sometimes, a lot of the time I make snap decisions.
Yeah. So that could be a result of what we call a masochist process. That's like, even if it's painful, like you'll do it anyway. Like you're getting you're good at enduring, right? So it's like, maybe you don't really want to do that thing. But someone's like, hey, I need an answer now. And you're like, fuck it. Let's go, you know, because it's because the map because you know, the mask is kind of like, can handle it. And so oftentimes a system has pain and pleasure intertwined. Yes, that's it. So okay. Definitely. Cool. So again, I just want you to track the energy, your energy goes down. Or defeat, which is beautiful, by the way, just such a gift. And that's why people love being around you because you make them feel safe. That's why you're such a good teacher. And you're probably very good with your hands as well. And then I just want you to notice that there's nice energy flowed down again, noticing the collapse in the solar plexus there. The system stopped reaching a long time ago. The disappointment was too much. As I feel true, yeah. Yeah. So the so weirdly enough, the repair is in the reach. Because it's like you don't trust people anymore. Not really. And that kind of content can also feel like I don't really trust God, like no one really shows up. I can do everything on my own. I do everything by myself. So the minis that we did is probably like, I mean, I would recommend minis for everybody, no matter what system you have, because most of us have a collapsed reach anyway. But this system in particular, is really, really challenged with that. And the other thing to know is that it's actually very helpful for your system to go slow. And touch which unfortunately we can't do online is really good. For your system. So I don't know if you'd get like massages at all regularly, or any sort of physical therapy, like your system thrives in that space. Like it almost like needs that feedback for like, full safety release. And so those are the things to really focus on at least the date at the early part. Because what you what your system really needs to experience is, like, when I reach someone's there when I reach someone's there, because at first you're gonna be like, no, they ain't. They're not going to be there. And it doesn't, you'll do a lot of reaches out reaches, and even after people show up for a while, you're still going to be sure that like, they're gonna just gonna disappoint me soon. Because I don't feel true. 100% Okay, so. So that's, that's where there is to focus on. And then again, like, just kind of, to tell you a quick story. Like, this work to me is like, it's amazing, because it's like electricity, we don't really understand electricity, we understand the proper some properties and what we can do with it. But like, there's like no end in sight to what electricity can do the energy moves and can animate all sorts of shit. And it doesn't matter what we come up with, it can animate it, right. So but like, fundamentally, it's like the we actually don't understand gravity, we don't understand electricity. And like, we don't really understand this work. We know that it works. I know, when I go hit that switch, something's gonna happen, the lights will turn on. But what exactly is the process that makes all that happen? I'm not clear, right? I have an idea about it. But I'm not clear. And so like, for example, because you're a teacher, so I want to give you this example, my wife and I, we have a three and a half year old when he was about two years old. And we're like, you know, preschool is this or that. And whether you agree with us or not, we chose not to vaccinate our child after extensive research. If you do it, I have no issues with that. Everyone's just got to make the best choice for the child to write. And if you have judgments about that, that's that's perfectly fine. But it put us in a situation where California like we can't school him. And then we were kind of leaning into our homeschooling anyway. So again, we could plan we can do all these things. But we're like, Hey, we're looking for someone who kind of feels like a Montessori teacher. We want to build a school pod, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, my wife starts, she got invited to these like, Mom meetings where they were like having some discussion from that she got led to this woman named Jill, who happens to be a Montessori teacher, but was like working at a private school. She seemed unhappy. And my wife was like, Hey, by the way, we're thinking of putting a pallet together. We'd love to find a group of children and like, hire you.
So, long story short, this woman literally has been put on God's green earth to work with children, right? Like, you know, when you just meet somebody who it's like, first of all, her mom was a teacher, her mom was like, her mom was a teacher. It's like this like lineage of teachers. And when you're around her, you're like, just watching her with children for five minutes, reconfigures how a person can be with children, you know, it's like so grounded in that Divine Earth energy, Divine Mother energy, you're just like, wow, how she talks to kids, how they respond to her. It's just like, like a child whisperer, you know. So, I tell you this, because not only did she come, but she her property that she lives on in her family gave her is like an acre acre and a half avocado Grove. And that ended up being the school for these kids. And so we have six or seven kids there, we privately hired her, she makes triple her income. She only works three days out of five days, four hours a day that she used to work, we helped her renovate some of the property to like, make it more conducive for the children. And like, it is the most magical experience that I can ever imagine a two, three and four to four year olds having so vastly different than like the world that we all grew up in. And like, we could not have planned that we can not have planned that that's just, again, this energetic work. That's why I want to give you like different examples of things that happen and continue to happen in like our lives and people who do this work in their lives. Just you don't even know. So, you know, good on you. I love that. It's like you have freedom to maybe explore some other avenues and things that you want to get into. And it's like what we're looking for with this system is like to bring dynamism like how do we start moving the energy because you have beautiful energy, but it's often stagnant. Right, it's like a mountain. It's like, it's like stuck and it changes but it takes a very long time. And so there's that there's that beautiful aspect of it is that you can just hold space, and people are gonna feel incredible around you. And then it's like if you want to activate like the quote, unquote, everyone's manifesting, but like kind of get more movement in the system. We got to work on things that add movement to the system. So the things I mentioned and then like actually starting to do some movement practices, whether it's like Qigong and then like You'll see probably you'll start noticing again, it's like as ascendant sensitivity rises, the energy that moves, all the chakras that gets everything moving is actually the heartspace. Even thinking of it from a biological point of view, these are the, all the chakras down here, the feminine chakras, chakras appear at the masculine properties. The heart has both both the masculine and feminine. And if you can think about how it works biologically, it's opening and closing, moving energy moving blood, right between the organs of our system essentially for the body. And so energetically there's like our, our energetic card, there's like our spiritual heart. And for most of us, it's it's collapsed. so much disappointment, so much heartbreak, right. And so like, as safety comes in the system, this starts opening. And, or we call this earth and fire. So like your system is like earthy system, and this is the fire. And when you connect these two, it's just like Earth and fire, really good combination. Start getting some dynamism in the system, you're gonna start seeing like, holy crap, holy crap, things happening so fast around me like to church. And so those are, those are the, like, the repairs that we're going to look for.
During one of the minis, I was with Steven bones, and I was like, normally, I feel it in my solar plexus, like, that's what I always feel. And with him I felt at all in my heart, and like I get it, because he's worked with you guys for so long. That That makes a lot of sense.
And that's the, you know, when you start doing minis, and like, of course, like everything else, the more you practice, the more nuanced they can get, you start noticing a variety of things, but then you start, you start noticing how different systems articulate themselves. Right. And so like, we all have all the qualities that every human being can have. Okay, and we're heavy handed and certain qualities, just like you have a right hand and left hand, we all have them, you know, hopefully, and you still have a dominant hand that you use more and you're more comfortable with. So it's like that both creates distortions on gifts. Because there's certain things that are right handed person experiences and left person left handed person does not and vice versa, right challenges on gifts. So it's the same thing here. And when you start working with a lot of systems, you're like, Oh, this is a fire system. That's a water system, that's a tree system. And you're like, I want more fire. Like you realize, like, Oh, my system really thrives in that like for you, right fire. So you're like, oh, okay, not only do I want to MIDI, but I want to sit with somebody who has healthy fire. Because it's not understanding consciously, like your mind has conditioning, we gotta get underneath that, which is the signaling the energetic signaling that's happening between people, that is basically like offering a template. You know, like, as Elon and I do more and more of this work, we're basically just, it's like the templates just getting more healthier. And so the healthy parts start expressing themselves. I didn't have a lot of access to like Divine Mother, what we call like a water bender type of energy. And now this last, like six months, I'm getting so much access to it. And so before I was just completely my masculine mental planner, now, like, sweetheart, it's such a new experience for me like to be able to touch emotion, by even like, you know, somebody sharing an experience with me, like, you know, this client I just mentioned, that became a multimillionaire. Just so moving, just to hear the story and like, just to like, feel that depth of her experience and gratitude. I could have never done that before. I would have understood here. Oh, yeah, gratitude. Yeah, it does work. Now. I'm like, wow, it's rich experience what's happening underneath. And it's just, it's opening up these channels. And again, I want to offer like, she went from three years basically being an internal lockdown and punishment within your own system to that. Is that overnight? It's not overnight. Three years. Not too shabby. Right. And so it's like, if you can't, if you come to the work, and you're like, I need to heal everything in a week, you're gonna be disappointed. It's not how this stuff works. It's also not hard work. And it still requires dedication, you got to show up every single day, even if it's five minutes and do a sit or do a mini something that resources, the system, the system, something that allows for you to be in a different experience that's actually generating new neuronal pathways and also clearing the energy that's in the body simultaneously. And again, it's like we're talking 510 minutes a day. And it's like, if you can't find that. I'm sorry. Good luck.
Is there a time day that's better, like depending on your system? No. Okay.
I think the challenge in the beginning is the reaching out for support because you're you most you guys probably internally know yourself as a highly independent human being. Like, that's, that's usually what shows up here, right? People who are like a blubbering mess are often not looking for these type of programs, like, it's like, a types, right. And again, there isn't there is like not saying we never have them, but like, so if you're fiercely independent, you know yourself as someone who just takes care of shit. But when you're, when you're in your mess, the your first response is not gonna be like, oh, I need to sit with somebody in presence. You're gonna be like, I gotta take care of this. So when I show up in presence, I can tell them how awesome I am. And like how good everything is like, you don't want to be the person that's like, really, today, like, you know, and that's the thing like you, you actually want to show up that way. Because here's the thing, like, Why do you have shame around that? There's nothing wrong with that. Every human feels this way, from the depth of this disappointment to like, elation we have, again, we're all kind of stuck in this very narrow band. And the way it opens, is by it getting presents, it needs to know that it's okay, like this part needs to know that it's okay. And when it does, when it gets its need met, it starts integrating back into your experience fully. Now, when you're like, sad, you're like, oh. And there's like. So when articulate this the right way, they experiences stop being where you receive pleasure. Being in the awareness is pleasurable. And again, there's an agenda lists, on attachments, even that, but it's like, just me being sitting here. Like, if I drop into my awareness, I start getting energetic bliss moving through my system, there's just much more fluidity in my energetic body than there used to be. So I start actually getting rolls of what feels like dopamine. And again, I don't know if you guys can see, but like, I immediately get chills, my hair stands on end. It's like, I'm actually and it's just because the energies flowing. It's like a warm River in my system. Okay, and that's just again, repetition of going into awareness. And my system is automatic, like so. So if I can sit there, again, my circumstances in my life are not perfect things happen. I argue with my wife, occasionally, businesses, like things like stuff, human right things happen, I get upset about stuff. But like, now, there is a seat back. I'm not sitting in the experience, I'm sitting back and away from the experience. And so I find pleasure, even in the discomfort, I don't know how else to explain that. My system, I feel uncomfortable, but I'm watching from a subjective point of view, and the watching is pleasurable, even if the personality is having kind of a breakdown. And so then there becomes this kind of more and more separation, because you are not your personality, you are not your identity, you're not your physical body, we can prove these things. And so you are the awareness that's watching, what we're learning how to do here is how do I get certain words spent more time sitting in my awareness, and just observing this unfoldment of the reality that my personality is experiencing. And you'll see what happens is fluidity don't get stuck in experiences. It comes in, it moves out, just like a child, happy, sad, angry, supported, reach out, right? Like, all this stuff, and we're working through, honestly, lineage trauma, it's not just what happened to you in this lifetime. It's your families, your societies. I mean, you know, many of our cultures have been through genocides, like that stuff. It's hanging with you, it's hanging with your ancestry. And so like, part of doing this work is like you actually are healing lineage. Without a doubt, like this generation, the pain it can stop at this generation.
Yeah, thank you for sharing. I love it. So good, you know, and just again, if you jot those things down for yourself, if you read it first thing in the morning is like, hey, reach out for support. And you guys have access to the advanced group. When you do like L twos and threes, we actually have messenger groups that people get into. And so that's a little bit easier, because you can just be like, hey, I need a mini right now. And we have like 100 people in there. So there's always somebody available. And that's kind of where you want to get to because you learn and I still do that. It's like when I'm you it took it took me some time to recognize the difference between I'm upset, and I could just sit and let this energy move. And then there's like I'm really upset and I'm spiraling out of control. And my contention is that you cannot help yourself at that point in time, you are deeply under resourced, that's usually when you get really upset, like when you're really in your parts are deeply under resourced. And you actually need another system that's resourced to help you navigate back to your own resource
at that point in time. Yeah. And so the
more you mini even when you're not upset, you know, it's, it's not like you should always just mini when you're upset, you're you're reaffirming this reach and respond in your system and that people are going to show up. It's life altering, life altering, and then just know that like, if you believe people are going to show up, it's like, God's gonna show up. The Universe supports me, it's like, all this other stuff just starts becoming self evident, like, Oh, this is a highly supportive universe with abundant energy for everybody and everything. And it's not conceptual. It's like as your as lived experience, just like okay, well, nothing's going great right now. But
I'm still held. It's all going to work out. It always does. Sir, please.
Good afternoon, first of all, while where I'm at afternoon on the east coast. So I wanted to share and ask, I guess. So um, what people have been talking about, definitely, for sure resonates because that's why we're all here, there's a debate, despite the difference, there's always a universality, right. So I'll try to keep it succinct, a little bit of a lengthy share what's been happening, and then into the ask, so to kind of preface a little bit where I've been at my own process. I've been working with psychedelics for over a year,
rectum, which would
work with book one for four sessions. And then I just moved into Book Two, psilocybin mushrooms just did my second journey. The second journey with that scuze me about two or three weeks ago at this point. And one of the threads that has come out of that work. Hands down, regardless of the medicine, the initial experience that I always have a sphere, like your beer is always like, that is the first thing that surfaces to the top. And that's a piece that I've been working with, as I would argue the bulk of my life that's been in the driver's seat. That's not really been. It's not been a counselor. It's been a dictator. That makes sense. Internally, internally. Oh, god, yeah, I mean, everywhere. I mean, I'm petrified even to just be speaking to you right now. Like, fear and like everything
was your was your What was your mom and dad both in the picture?
physically present emotionally president is a different story,
though. So was your dad a really dominant human being or your mom a dominant human being?
was more my mother, she was a rageaholic. My father was an alcoholic that dealt with her rage by self medicating.
And can you just if you don't want to come on camera, can you describe your body shipped to me as a long and lengthy? Are you more full?
I can come on. I mean, I'm gonna move tomorrow, which is why my apartment is decimated. That's why I've been off camera. So if y'all are willing to not judge me for my boxes? No, absolutely not. Give me one second, I think I have my I also
want to look at a track here real quick, too. Yeah.
No, it's totally fine. I wanted to make sure that I have my camera closed and the other one, so my friend. So yeah. So there's a lot of disappears kind of in the bleeding factor. And I got to revisit with that. And this is where I'm going with this. So I got to revisit in the last journey. And one of the messages that sort of came through. I had a, I've never had shared consciousness with other kinds of consciousness before. So that was very interesting. So I got into what I would call like predator consciousness, because I feel like I've been a prey animal most of my life. So I got to, you know, meld with a few other creatures that have a different experience. And one of the things that came through was that, you know, when frogs sit on a lily pad, you know, by a bank or by a pond, they run the risk of being eaten by a snake like there's a realistic chance. That doesn't mean that the frog doesn't sit on them we've had like the the message is sort of came out was like, you can listen to your fear without it being a problem. And so where this is sort of going the the interesting chain of events that have sort of coalesced in the last couple of hours, that's kind of had me facing this as that. So when we had the intuitive mind event, we had the minis I actually stepped out because I was scared shitless like three presidents with another person. Because people have historically not been safe. I've had to be fiercely fiercely fiercely fiercely, fiercely independent can't rely on other people. They're not safe. Yesterday, I get an email at five o'clock that my movers who are supposed to be moving me tomorrow are backing out with absolutely no notice. And it put me into like, it's always interesting because I noticed that there are very large triggers. or events that happened usually two to three weeks before I do a journey and then two to three weeks after, yeah, like this weird comparison litmus test kind of thing that happens. And so there was still a good amount of like, activation rage but because like my ability to witness and be present with myself has gotten better with doing this work. I was able to it felt like I was not entirely in that observer seat. Because I was still a little bit in the experience. But it was it was kind of like I felt like I was able to more watch it than me in it. But I was still in both places. And it was weird because the the core wounding and narrative that got triggered there like that wanted to come up with like, this is why you can trust people. This is why you don't depend on people. This is why you do it yourself. And you know, I've gotten out of a lot of really tight jams with less notice. So it's not like this is out of like my my room. And it was interesting, because when I was speaking with my mother last night and just kind of for a 30 year old grown man, and as much as the woman is not emotionally safe, I still have moments where I'm like it really be nice if my mom could just like be my mom. Yeah, your mom for that support. And she was like, Well, son, you just have McCamey luck, which is like our last name. And I was like, I don't really like that. Yeah. And she's like, What do you mean? And I was like, I don't I was like, I don't take my life that personally anymore. Like I don't think that the universe is conspiring against me. I don't think that there's something about me, you know, having your maiden name that has ushered in some kind of like woeful luck. It's just a shitty person that it is shitty thing that doesn't really care and I have to figure it out, like it is. So the big pieces reason spewing all this now is that I know that community is a direction to move towards and work in because lone wolf is a trauma response. And that's what I've been doing for the bulk of my life. There's also seems to be this little bit of like standoff showdown, whatever you want to, or whatever you want to use there between myself and like this very strong fear. It's not like it's not justified, like I'm a therapist, and I work with like trauma people specifically. And it's like people who've been traumatized have every reason in the world to never trust another human being again, my job is not to say, no, like, don't feel that way. Like it's no, it's like, no, no, people are like shitting. It's not, it's not about taking that away. It's about expanding your worldview to see that people can also be very kind and empathetic and loving and caring. And perhaps it's that whole, you know, those who can't Well, I don't want to say that cuz there's a teacher, but there's that saying of like those who can do those who can't teach, but like, You got to also know the thing to teach it right. But that's the sticking point is just like this. There's a attachment, commitment, maybe to fear as like a guiding force, and that sort of being a stumbling block for me progressing because I want to be able to participate in these communities and come to these people and be present, but it's absolutely terrifying. And it feels like
death. So have you ever done any attachment, attachment therapy?
Not specifically, I'm currently working with a somatic somatic practitioner that does neuro effective touch, which is absolutely amazing. We've never done that. I highly recommend that or feels good for your system. Yeah, she's a the woman that I'm working with has something that actually came out of the book, one work I was doing, and I didn't realize how much I was projecting all over her for like my mom's stuff. But the practitioner that I'm working with, has very, very wonderful, you know, not to be stereotypical but just really great, like divine feminine energy, very well rooted, very nourishing, loving, very compassionate, basically antithetical
to helping you reach complete your month.
Oh, god, yes. She's amazing for that.
Can I ask you a few questions? Yeah. And then maybe challenge a little bit of therapy?
or anything? I know, I don't know.
Yeah, that's not such a challenge therapists like anytime when we deal with like therapy and again, I'm horribly generalized because so many different kinds of therapies here, but it's like, what I have found is therapy is so good and it's missing energy and awareness. And so it's like you're never quite getting to the underparts Right? Like you there's a lot of understanding Okay, here's why I'm doing that and so that helps you respond better maybe you catch a little bit faster you know, you the gaps in getting lost in consciousness are much shorter but like ultimately it's like that's still at the level of symptom at the level of source and we want to get to source right
You know, mom is Mom Mom is gonna continue to be mom she's she's a very fiery system it sounds like what what you know where there's a find some compassion there with her because I run that pattern is there's a like a devastated broken heart and that system.
Oh, god. Yeah, she's the our family history is riddled with ghosts that are not in the closet. They're in the house. They don't care who's there.
And so I just want to tell you like my perception from all the teachers Some teachings that we've gotten so you're what we call a, like a lever pattern err process. And so it was like a not received on Earth properly, like, like the landing was not smooth from soul to embodiment that
almost died. So yeah, it's that it wasn't a pleasant experience.
There you have it. So that makes sense why system gets trapped in terror. The metaphor we often use for the system is like a squirrel in the tree. I think I mentioned it during the program, someone someone else had this process. And it's like, it wants to come down and like be on the land, but everywhere, it looks like a scary dog and a fast moving car and a person with a rake. And so it just like, you know, keeps going back up into the tree. So it's like you actually need to land here. And so here's the thing, I love that you're doing plant medicine work. But you know, those realms really well actually, you live in those realms. They can they can shoot you out is that you're like you're kind of like the angelic realm.
The the way that it was described, and the reason I was laughing and saying, Yep, it's just my, my family is very Irish. So in our lineage, it's known as the Irish site, typically its strongest and the firstborn daughter, but everybody like my brother, and sister and I all have a certain level of sensitivity. Of all the things that my mother could have been chill about growing up seeing things was one where she was like, if you're scared, just, you know, see yourself covered in white light and say a prayer. But otherwise, like, this is just the interest of your people, you know, or what, like, it was never like spiritual things happen to me as a child, and that was seen as normal and not made a big deal over it was praised hugely, but it also wasn't like you're crazy, but you want like anti-psychotics? Yeah.
So there may be something about that culture that doesn't receive children. Well, again, I'm just a hunch, not a fact. And so they develop that distortion, but the gift is your like, the most sensitive system on planet Earth with a ton of sight, you know, thoroughly connected again, why? Because you never land. So you you live in the ether, so to speak, right?
And also have experience with my third eye actually, like feeling it in ordinary consciousness. Like I was doing meditation and could feel it blink with like my other eyes, because I have blackout eye shades that they use for meditation. It's why
you excite me. And I'll tell you why. Because you guys, you guys bring through when it's healthy. You guys bring through the information that humanity needs to up level. Like you can be in a room with like, 500 people and know exactly what's going on for like everybody. Not that you would want to be because I would scare the shit out of you. But the sensitivity that's there is incredible. And so what we want to do is just ground the system. So for like, example, like track, is it? Is it Shaolin or shaylen? I'm sorry, sweetheart, what? What's challenging
Shaolin Charlotte, okay. Track her for a moment.
And really notice her her sister, her energy moves down through into the earth. Yeah, there you go. You got it.
He said that because it was just like when I like exhale, did that it, it felt like notice what she's talking describing. And in that moment, that movement, just like,
like, chicken, you notice by tracking her that you're like, I can feel your energy started with that. And it's like, enjoy for a second. Because I want you to feel well, I want you to feel well being feels like for you.
There you go. Whoo. There you go. Whoo. Hmm.
If you have your system, softening a bit in the inside, too, right down the center, shoulder, here, the throat.
And there's a almost like a
hesitancy to that.
Because of course, you don't trust that shit.
Like, it's like, it feels like it's kind of, like clarity gets sharper on that feeling. And then it kind of
just, I want to show you that how much more access you have. That's why we select an anchor user as an anchor. Like you don't have to anchor like actually just notice this system and like not through effort like so if you're efforting drop the effort, and just their intention, just like oh, I know what I'm doing what because you do know what you're doing.
You know how to track there you go.
And lucky even that little pointer just like trust yourself, you got this, you really know what you're doing. There you go. Out there,
Can you go a little bit more like fall through the earth? And you can think of it as measurement but it relates to infinity. It's not like our planet is also non physical. So it's a consciousness and entity, the ground there but it's in spiritual talking to the groundless ground, we're looking for the ground of groundedness of awareness, not the ground and so there
There you go. notice the subtle link
soften your eyes a little bit, relax your jaw. And then there's a protector, checking things out kind of right at the third eye over there. Don't change that. Just notice that that's there. And actually welcome it and be like, Hey, I see you come on, and you can you can hang out and see what's happening here.
Welcome to be here. There you go. There you go. who felt that when Rosie
went like I've got goosebumps right now.
So I'm here. Because I can feel I can feel how big you are, man. Yes. Yeah. So check this out. I'm gonna give you a like so you're tracking her and track me. Okay, that do both like include us both and again, like have any effort to somehow someway distract us both intention
does it yeah okay, let's see what happens here.
I'm going to give you a lot of space a lot more space than you've probably ever had from anybody else before. Okay, and I want you to take it up and then I'll give you one more pointer after that
take as much space as you need epic show me
how big you can get there you go while you're getting big continue to feel the tether that you have over there with that earth system
you're you're there's the there's the flow. And now from here, reach out. Like go home. Whatever that means to like reach up. Go home. Look how much more access you have. There you go. Yeah. Just check out your system now. So we feel
far less constricted. For sure.
I feel your heart is wide open up. You got a nice flow of energy there
it's really expansive. Yeah,
I'm gonna just gonna take something off your throat Hold on a second
ah you feel the heat here. There's more of a
it's like an echo of warmth. There feels like there's some distance from it. But I don't know if that's just like my own internal spaciousness of like where that's seated. That makes sense. Yeah,
I just want you to just just correlate this heat, even if it's a little bit in the center channel, correlated as well being
like, this is what wellbeing feels like.
That's maybe the first time you ever recognized well being actually so just really notice it.
Again, there's nothing you need to do just notice it
and feel how much more open the center channel is now. From where we got started. There was a collapse down the middle now we got a nice flow of energy and like feel it all the way down to your feet, like you actually feel your feet, your feet till your butt. So your body in the chair. Really Oh, there I am, it's like landing in to your system
there was a very, when you were talking about, like the expansion, the imagery that kind of came to mind was just like, literally like, pushing out in a way just kind of in this like really wide swath like in front of me and then also doing that like, above me as well and just kind of like, full range of space. And I've never, it didn't really occur to me until I had this kind of like opening experience of like spaciousness is primarily what I feel following.
That's right, but you're a fragment, you're fragmented in the space, that's, that's the thing. It's like, it's like your consciousness goes like that in fragments. Oftentimes, when people are in that state, they look like their eyes look hollow. It's obvious there, but nobody's home kind of feeling. And so it's like, difficult for other systems to be like, you know, where are you? And then, and because we like attune with each other, like, your system needs the spaciousness. And people come in with their mind very sharp kind of energy. And so your system goes and kind of like fragments out, and then it's almost like, it's hard to find yourself. Yeah, even if you'd like just notice like, that you're kind of all over the place you can you almost go collect yourself. You're here, right, and kind of, like, bring it in. So I want to just point out what we were doing. We found a very earthy system, who's very embodied? Yeah, because Earth's systems are highly embodied. You're disembodied.
So there's your template,
right. And so for your system, if there's anything that would be helpful on a day to day, it's like Elon said, find my feet, find my butt, feel that build this physical thing, like you're here. And slowly, your awareness will start mapping coming in. Right, it's, again, not an overnight phenomenon. But here I want to give you an example of like, so here's the thing, we're anchoring down. And so what happens when we anchor your system, you can reach much higher without fear of getting lost, you're going to experience probably often as you do healing work disassociation. And, and in a lot of circles, that's like, oh, no, about that, you actually want to let it go through, you want to go through the disassociation. And that's gonna be an edge because it's uncomfortable. And you're like in the ethers, but that's why we want to anchor it down first. And then the other part I want to show is like, like, I know, for your system, that I gotta give you a lot of space. If I come in, like with the way that your mind comes in. It's probably like the worst thing that you could do to that system. Get not she doesn't know that. So you can't, you know, hold it against her. But you got to the reason I mentioned the broken heart is if you feel your mom's broken heart. Like, you got to look underneath all the personality, all the identity, there's a little girl over there with just a shattered heart. That's why the anger is there to protect that. There's a bit of compassion you can find for mom and connect with her through the heart. Like if you just saw your mom, as a three year old who was just like a wounded girl, you're gonna feel different.
It was a in a brief image that came through not disturbing, but the one I did back in January, where I was back in like, Baby style. And I was seeing things from my mother's perspective. And she was holding me. And she was saying, You're so beautiful. You're so beautiful. You're so beautiful. And I the first wave was just like a lot of joy that being you know, the object of parental affection and attention and kind of basking in that. The second wave that came behind that was like, this actually isn't about me. This is about the fact that she made me and is proud of herself for that. And then the wave that came like behind that was like, how difficult it must be for her that she views me as like, her top achievement of like creation in her life. And I really don't want anything to do with her. Yeah, jarring that must be to the system to be like this is the giant that is my pride and joy that I've put all my eggs in and see is my crowning achievement and they don't want to be in my life. And it's yes, that's been all that to say the process of compassion I'm working on because I was exposed at too young an age to what her trauma was. So I've been very cognizant and aware. Understanding how that's filtered down into my life. The experience I've had is that I've always because of the situations I've been in, I felt like it usually been anywhere from 30 to 40 years older than my chronologic relationships. So it's been engineered having to figure out how to deal with things in an age appropriate way versus somebody, you know, past my age.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm barely went out, you know, honor. Honor your journey. Many of us even included had to grow up, way too fast. Do the adult stuff and it's like, I'm just gonna say flat out that wasn't okay. Like, we can't hold it. It's like holding against our parents is not the answer. But it's like, it's just not okay, the child comes here with a biological need. Like, if you look at Denise, every time her daughter comes over there is just like, love and compassion,
love it, I see. And I'm just like, look at all that positive reception.
That's right. And so it's like, Look, your mommy never give you that. However, like, we just start doing this little templating exercise, you start doing that, you're gonna start seeing like, Oh, those, it's just like, we don't have to think so hard about how to heal ourselves. What happens if you do the work, you got more safety in the system, because that's what you really want you want like your you've been living in terror, hiding trying to hide terror, so that you can navigate a physical world, which is scary all on its own right. And it's like, so we're we want to just ground again, the ground, the groundless ground is this place of safety and resource in our systems that we can get to. And it's just going to take some development on your part, because you probably understand exactly what's going on with you. You're a highly attuned, highly aware human being right. And so like, again, these little practices, that's why I wanted to give you like, a big old tastes. And I can tell you that like the system will reorganize, even with what we did today. Because it's like, oh, that, like, that's what the system needs. That that's the feeling that's, and it's not even trying to get back there. It's just like, Oh, when I do practices, these channels inside of me open up, I'm actually going to become more gifted here. And so you know, I mentioned this part, right, that came in this protector, and this protectors are like, it's like the gatekeepers. It's like the Agent Smith in the matrix, nothing happens. You can't tell him to get out of the way you can't tell him to you're not needed here anymore. Every part and every protector is concerned with that they're going to get left behind, and that they're going to be invalidated. And that their purpose is going to like disappear. They need reassurance that even though we're going into these places that they're going to come with, and a really good reassurance for them is, hey, if we let this move through, you're actually going to get an upgrade, because you're still operating the risk operating with their three year olds, from that place of safety, right? And it's like, Hey, we're gonna go through this process. And the system just naturally reorganizes homeostatic Lee towards more neutrality. It is like, Oh, we can do that. No, they're very excited about that. And so like this, the little pointers here. And so you can go get that Divine Mother template elsewhere. And then you'll see your relationship with your mom will change. Because she's also trying to get a need met. You understand. And obviously, you know that and like, she can get that need met, no matter how hard she tries. One thing I want to tell you though, is you know how you know your ailing you when you start getting angry. Because both you and her system that I mentioned before, like her is just hold it in the system, yours is just completely disowned.
And it's funny in a way that you say that because one of the big pieces that I knew that I was healing for myself wasn't related to my fear was when I had a very intimate experience with my last MDMA journey where I felt fear that I had inherited was hers and not mine. Like I literally felt that as down the lineage, I was able to separate that out. But I also in that process, lost my fear of her. And this is a woman that I used to joke with people, you shouldn't put the fear of God into us, but the fear of hurt us and no longer being afraid of her. It's changed how like, when we do have, you know, Spats or conflict, it's funny cuz she almost doesn't know what to do anymore. Because I'm not aggressive. I'm not like shouting or yelling, but I'm very firmly like, you're not going to speak to me this way. I'm not having this conversation. We're not going to do this. We're only real rebuttal is you're being really rude right now. And it's just, she doesn't know how to handle that. And it's because I don't have that pervasive fear a person now I can be angry, I can be compassionately angry, I don't have to be aggressively angry, but like, I'm not afraid to show that emotion when we are locking horns anymore.
But I think that that's, that's healthy for like, the fire coming out for you is is good, because part of that is like, protecting, like, I'm like, I create boundaries, which is so healthy, right? Like, nope, because that's what that fire is like, nope. And it's truth to and like, there's charisma to that and there's influence to that. And so like, it's a very, very healthy energy to step into.
Was I useful? Definitely. For sure. Thank you very much. I appreciate your your time and your patience and your wisdom. So thank you.
So good. Yeah, it's such a pleasure and like it's a I really want your system however can hear this, it's a pleasure to receive you. And like sit with you, and like really offer your presence and connection. And like you actually you
really deserve it. Yeah, my pleasure,
thank you for being here. I just want to name I have like 12 to 15 minutes left. So I'm happy to take any more questions or just guys this useful, by the way, just like even hearing how their systems operate. You all have people like this in your life. Right. And it's like, it's very easy to get accustomed to either this way or that way. And it's just energy, the mind creates the body, the mind creates these patterns, and everyone's dealing with the same stuff really underneath it all. And like, partly what we want to if I can impart any wisdom over the last many years that I've done this work, if you want to find what connects humanity, because we're not going to get it through agreement, we're never going to all agree or feel the same way or think the same way. Or think that society needs to be the same way. That's ridiculous. You're gonna get AP a billion people to agree like, what's the probability of that? nearly impossible, if not impossible, what I have seen that every human being deeply desires to safety, safety and wellbeing, even if you've never recognized within yourself, like humanity hasn't felt safe, maybe in 10s of 1000s of years.
And like, what, like, we're
trying to become more more peaceful culture, nations, whatever you want to call it, it's like, it's gonna be on the back of safety. Children, adults act very irrationally, when they don't feel safe. school shootings are children that don't feel safe, nobody feels safe does that shit. Right? These are these are very lonely souls who have not had connection their whole lives. And it's, and it's gonna, it's a little challenging to look at it this way. It's like that those people don't need anger, they need more compassion than you could ever imagine. Even if they're not here anymore. Like the soul, the energy behind them, needs to be seen compassionately. There's no cure, otherwise, nothing is ever going to change. So it's like part of this even with whatever challenging relationships you have in your lives, or challenging people, or bosses, or whatever it is, like, there's a hurt little boy or little girl over there, trying to get their needs met, trying to feel safe. People do that in a really weird ways. This work, that's why we love it so much as a pathway toward safety and well being. If that's something that you want to continue to do in your life, and enhance, because you can see like, how would I be in this world if I felt safe, resourced? Well being when I make different choices in my life, when my relationships be different, what I'd not sabotage myself around money. When I take risks that I don't take what I finally go on that trip, when I finally asked them to marry me, like whatever the hell it is, right?
That that's what this work is.
I wish we could say that on the front end to everybody. It's like you're here for safety, nobody would understand what the hell we're talking about. So because it's so far fetched, people don't think this way. They haven't come to this realization. And it's like, you ground your system, you feel safe, your life is going to change and, you know, take it for what you will from life for me, just like give yourself a little time to ponder what your life would look like if you actually felt safe when you woke up in the morning.
We left with different
Alright, got about 10 more minutes. If you guys want to have any other explorations. Yeah, Denise, please.
How do you clear out your system? Clear your energy? Yeah,
I asked me how to clear it. Yeah. Okay, Alistair. Sorry, one more thing I wanted to mention to you. Psychedelics, love them. Very good work. Be careful with your system, though. If you do too often, you're gonna blow yourself out. It's just you're already too. You're so sensitive. So it's like, if you do it too, too much. I'll just regulate yourself. Okay. So, I think what you're asking is for what we call like energetic hygiene. Okay, I think that's okay. And just, you know, you just be mindful of your system because of that sensitivity. Yeah, you're talking about energetic hygiene. This is kind of crucial, and to be honest, kind of a little bit advanced. Because we don't realize how much we're carrying around most of the time. Are you? Are you like an empath? How do you how do you
think about yourself?
Yeah. So what we want to clearly define for empaths is like me, not me, right? Like, what's mine, what's not mine. Otherwise, you're just processing for everybody all the time. Aleister is doing it more of like as a means to survive. He needed to know what was happening in the other room, energetically speaking, and he needed to know if it was safe to come out of the room to walk into that room, right. So that's how he developed To sensitivity it's like a again like an alcoholic dad coming home or something like beats you all the time. You need to know when the keys when you hear those keys like is that in good mood today? Can I get out of the room. So you develop like energetic awareness over there and pass usually just are processing everything, everything for society every time they read a headline. And a lot of that is because they have a system that's being permeated. They're like water without a container.
No, I mean that.
Are you when you're in relationships, or you're more avoidant? Are you more anxious?
I have always like, yes. Clearly, I have a child. So I've had relationships, but I don't. I don't trust people. I have not. I just don't trust people. I grew up. My dad was an alcoholic. So you guys remember. I grew up homeless. So I don't trust Yeah.
Hi, sweetheart. Yeah, well, I'm actually here with you. And thank you for sharing that with me. I know that's not easy. So my, my assumption would be is that you have more of a anxious system. Yeah. So let's just I'm gonna go really slow. Okay. Because we had a part there.
I'm sorry, sweetheart. Yeah, that's been hard. I'm just not a crybaby.
Okay. You are welcome here. Every shops we heard. Yeah. You also don't have to like that. That was Dad. Well, you know, that was what you heard at home.
You are sensitive, it's okay. Sensitive doesn't mean weak by the way.
Yeah, so if you can see if you can notice that I am really here with you.
I'm not gonna go anywhere I got you. Ah,
just always notice the bottom of your throat if you can, like little collapse there and then the pressure at the center of the stomach, you can notice that
you don't have to do anything about it either. We'll answer your question. I'm
just, I just want to go really slow, okay.
We don't have to go into a full on process. So to answer your question. So those those gifts are beautiful. Okay. One of the ways that we can not manage but like learn to work with our system because there's nothing wrong with being an empath no more there's anything wrong with Aleister being up here and being highly sensitive or shelling being super grounded, right? Like we all have our there's a gift and there's a distortion to everything, every quality, every gift. So the way we recognize ourselves is by continuously tracking our own system. Again, what one of the ways that we can do that is through minis, that's why minis like just do so much for people. Because now you're sitting there and it's like, okay, like, however you show up today, you show up today, this person's presencing you and you're just noticing, like, oh, this part just showed up and it's upset about something or this part is now letting go and I'm starting to feel resourced. And like what you're kind of doing as you do these repetitions is you're actually mapping your own inner world, your own unconsciousness, your own like awareness itself. And once you map awareness and awareness has the same qualities for everybody. Like we're actually did you, this is a little bit mind blowing when you do it. But it's like, you go into your awareness, you practice going into your awareness, I'm in my awareness, awareness, then you suddenly realize that this is not my awareness. This is just awareness.
There's only one one source
of all things just as it's written and all the scriptures it's just one awareness. Now you're have a perception from your state of that awareness and different qualities that you may notice, but it's one awareness. Something really magical happens when you sit in a room with people and everyone recognizes one awareness. So back to the thing we call this mean not me. Why because as you continue to track your system, now you just kind of like know your system. So the reason I can like you know Do you feel the thing in your throat that I'm talking about? Do you feel the thing and that little, it's kind of like a subtle pressurization in the center of their of their stomach?
Why can I do that?
If I, by the way, if I tried to do that, like, if I tried to go after that, it wouldn't have happened. This work is the exact opposite. The harder you try, the less happens, the more you surrender. And the less effort you put in, the more that happens. It's about dropping effort, because your true nature is not fulfilled at all. It just it just things are manifesting happening, unfolding creating. So the reason I can do that is I've trapped myself in so many systems so often, that here's what happens for me. So if I bring my awareness towards my own body, I can feel that energy that I was mentioning before, okay, if I know, move my awareness, just like you guys are moving around your head, you're learning how to kind of find that spaciousness. I can, I can locate anybody on planet. So if I look at you, right, again, faster than the speed of light, because it's just awareness, no time, no space, I'm with you, I immediately start feeling changes in my center channel. So I can feel the collapse that's happening here. The tightness that's happening here. And because I've moved my awareness to you, and those changes happen, then I know that that's not me, I know that that's you. Because I know, because I know how my system feels.
So me, not me.
If I move my awareness back to myself, it changes again, it goes back to my state. And we can tap into the collective this way, like I could go and hang out with pardon. But whether you like it or not, you know, I could go typing with Donald Trump, I could literally feel how this system feels right now. You can tell me about a story in your life. And because again, no time, no space, I can literally feel what was happening in your body in that moment. It's just, it's just energy. It's always there. And so like, that all seems fucking crazy and science fiction, but it's really science fact. And it's just a matter of developing awareness. And so after
a while, you'll you're like,
I'm really tired. And again, you may not notice that you're like, oh, it's exhaustion or something's off, your mood has been a little bit off. You're walking around with some stuff. And so again, you sit in the Mini, the system needs two things to move things out. It needs resources, it needs to feel resourced. Like if you know, you have a baby at home, what happens when you're tired? Are you showing up like the best mommy in the world? Or suddenly mommy's cranky? Yeah. Mommy's cranky, right? And mommy start saying cranky things. But it's not mommy that's saying those things. It's there's a lack of resource, a part shows up to try to survive, it has a view. And that part, you merge with it. And you start speaking from the part, like analysis world, right? Like that's where therapy, I didn't mention this, but like, often fails for people, they're doing the work merged with the part. So unless you can separate that's why awareness, energy needs to metabolize. And then you can shift the view very easily, you no longer merge with your experience of being hijacked. But most of us are merged in the experience. It's talking, we think we're talking you're not talking, it's talking. And so when you recognize that you want to get resourced, which is what you can only do with another person. Get into a restful state, in the body, what science calls downregulation of their nervous system or a parasympathetic response. And then the energy metabolizes then you feel the spaciousness and the system it just clean it's clear. Looks like you've done the dishes inside. Now you can and then you'll feel you without all the gunk. There I am, like Alistair had a little taste. It's like, there I am. It's like, it's like you land in your own system. And it feels fucking good. It's like truth landing in it can't explain it. There's no words for this. And it lands in that it's like, oh, okay, I know my system in a new way. I've actually never felt this part of myself before. Never felt this wellbeing before. And again, there's nothing you need to do about that this system just self reorganizes expands it grows and then it kind of use you start seeing it developing into your what I call, you know, organic hologram biscuit reality. It just it just manifests itself. It's manifesting itself because the energy in your body is changing.
That's kind of how it works. Okay, you can't you really can't force it out. We want to
do you think you think you know what time you're healing supposed to be? What order it's supposed to be? You know, I'm sorry. There's an intelligence that does. And that's why tapping into that intelligence will enact to that process. It's like whatever's ready now for the body to release will show up right now. And that's really all we can ever work with. I know you have all your desires and things that you want to clean out. I want to stop responding angrily in situations I want to do all those things. I remember asking my teacher early on and like when How do we get besides, like, it's not it's time, you still need that to learn from. Then if you if you had learned it all the way through it, then you know, its purpose has gone, it would disappear from your life. And that does happen. But it's a lot like healing is a lot like waking up from a dream. It's like you kind of remember it for a moment. And then it like fades away. And you're like, Why did I ever respond that way? You can't even remember what the source of that was. And I imagine that will kind of be like humanity's transformation. It's like, we'll just kind of literally awaken up from a dream. We'll have these like faded memories of the way that we used to be, but we won't remember why we used to do those things.
Yeah, and Denise just for you, it's like, my, my gut tells me that you your your system uses merging into others people's systems to navigate this world. It's like, uh, yeah, good. Tell me if that's true.
That makes sense. Because when I was younger, I was I was made jokes to like, lighten the mood, you know, because we were going through a stressful a stressful time. So it's kind of like, yeah, so I take on, like, my mom's dress, so she doesn't have to.
That's it. And so free for you. Just, if I can point out, I like what, what's the height we do the healing work, you want to sit with a system that has a really defined center channel. Okay, so this is like, like, you have a lot of water, gifts, what are distortions, and it's like, what happens to water when it doesn't have a container, it just goes everywhere. So it's like you need a container, the way we develop this, just so you understand, like, the practices that we do, it's like developing central channel. So it's like, if water, it's like a, if a river doesn't have trees around it, the soil just moves with the water, right. And then like the river just goes everywhere. But if you have trees at the banks, the soil stays put, and the river has direction. And so we're talking about, from an energetic perspective, Divine Mother and divine masculine qualities. And so when you bring them together, that flow of energy is really beautiful. And what happens? Again, I can't speak for you, but what I imagine is going on, is that you don't have
what's the word I'm looking for here?
Reflection, sorry, one second will come to me.
Oh, yeah, it's like you can't self reference yourself. Does that make sense? Does that feel true? Yeah. So there's no like inner reference. So you end up doing is you use other people as reference. And now you lose your autonomy, and your power. Because you're like, it's like, you don't know where you are without somebody else in the picture. And so part of the practice is developing this awareness of the central channel, and then you'll actually still be able to self reference. And so like, when somebody asks you to do something, you won't be like, I don't know, it's like, I fucking know. I'm not gonna do that. Yes, I'm gonna do that. And so if you feel indecisive,
that may be where it's coming from.
Yeah, and you're an epic Mommy, you have like the you have like the beautiful gifts of like, they're just, you know, beautiful, natural, soft, mom. And so like, you know, in contrast, or like Alice or Luke would actually be really good systems for you to sit with. There were a lot of central channel. That high integrity, that kind of stuff. So again, these would be like little notes I would give you on programs. Okay, this system, that system, go template that and you're gonna be like, Whoa, I feel my power coming online.
Yeah. And I love that you're sensitive. It's not a weakness, I just want to remind you, and it's just it's that that part of you being seen and received would help that part come forward. And then you'll realize how big of a superpower that really is.
Mm hmm. Good session. Just Well,
I guess it's time. Time for me. I gotta just jump on another call shortly.
Thank you guys for your trust.
I hope the last I mean, I'll see you guys next week too. But I hope the event was really eye opening for you. I hope you start seeing like, oh, there's legit pathway for like to heal these ruptures. There's a legit pathway to like live in community and feel supported. And like, you know, we keep pointing at it, but it's like, you either jump or you don't we'd love you this way or that way. And the fact that even though this work is out there, you're ahead of 99.99% of the public. So let us know if you know what you want to do next. I'm sure you won't We'll talk to you guys you'll get a little bit more feedback from him in that way, and I'm sorry that it's not sooner. It just kind of worked out with his travels this way. But if you need anything in the meantime, we're here, just reach out, get some support.
Okay so that's your week to everybody.