Sure. And I think this ties in with our, the work that we've done in the podcasts that we've done that work we do in our program with our clients, with the awareness that we have two major drives biologically, and those are the drive for connection and the drive for safety. While the holidays, it activates both of those drives. And if your nervous system believes that it can only be safe that you can only be safe. If you please everybody, then you will not have the ability to enjoy the holidays, the same way that you would if you understood that being somebody being pleased by what you're doing, saying are giving has less to do with you and more to do with them and their own expectations. And so we want to connect with people we worry about what people will perceive in terms of our gift giving or the way we invite people over to celebrate and those things can be very burdensome, and I would say it can raise to toxic stress. If we're not careful. I think it's windy are one of our CO founders, I think it's her one of her family, they have a rule that all the kids and they brought them up with this rule that all the kids give each other gift, but it has to be homemade. And I think that's a great approach. I think it's probably not very practical for many families today because of how busy everyone else. But the other thing that I think is really fun is I've heard of it would depend on your family if you have addiction in your family or mental illness that this may not work, but kind of a re have fun re gifting holiday party, where you bring a group of people together and you rummage through your, your things at home or your closet and take something that you bought that you haven't used, or something that somebody gave you that you aren't going to use and your gift. And then the other thing that can be really fun is a white elephant party, and that can relieve financial stress. But what it might do is it also might spike your anxiety if you have family and friends with high expectations for gift giving. And so keeping that in mind, do what will help your nervous system be a little bit more calm, whatever that is.