Welcome back everyone. It's time for three for me and two for you. That's when I give you three reflections from the conversation that I had with Brittany Sammons, and then two calls to action. So here we go. Number one is, I just want to highlight the phrase and the concept of natural proportions one more time. That is something that when I was starting to figure out what inclusive education really means and how it actually works, this concept was new to me, and once I realized that it wasn't about putting students with and without disabilities together and just hoping for the best. It was actually about being intentional about where students with more complex support needs were actually in the school building, and that they weren't all clumped in one classroom. That is when it started to make a little bit more sense to me on how this actually could work in a school system and how it could work in my school district. I'm hopeful that as you are listening to this conversation or watching this video, that you'll be able to take some of the language that you hear that Brittany and I talk about and bring that to your school system and your school leaders. Okay? Number two, I think it's really important to how we talk about and understand co teaching, because again, co teaching isn't about having a co taught classroom. You have only one classroom that is the inclusion classroom, and you have special educators that are in a co taught room, really inclusive practices, and what we're talking about with scheduling means that resources are spread out evenly across a grade level and a school building. Now that's going to look different in each school based on the number of students, the number of supports that are needed, and the staff, but that school gets to decide how to deliver those resources equitably, as I've said many times before, putting all the students with disabilities in one class, and calling that the inclusion class, or having segregated classrooms in the first place, it's just not an efficient way to serve students. Okay. Number three, both Brittany and I shared about what we used to think and now what we think, and I. You may not hear this in our conversation in the video, but Brittany and I have had plenty of conversations offline about how there is a certain amount of shame and regret that we both have because we advocated for segregated environments for learners with disabilities, and so that's something that we are both dealing with and for anyone who is listening and going through this kind of period of reflection and thinking, oh, gosh, my mind is really changing about this, and I need to do something about it. You can only do as much as you can in your own context and just make the next right move for you to make sure you and your school system are moving towards inclusive practices. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself, but know that you can just keep going and keep going. And for both Brittany and I, we just didn't stop advocating, and we're still on that journey. But it's, it's okay to be thinking about that. It's okay to have regret, but it's also important for you to keep moving and to move on, which is, you know, another reason why we make this podcast is hopefully, if we can help change your mind, that there's something that you can do in your school system to move inclusion forward, then I think we've been successful. Okay, now it's two for you. I am going to drop a link to the video that Brittany referenced with Lou Brown. It's a conversation that he's having with the Minnesota Governor's Council on Developmental Disabilities, and it is definitely worth the watch. It's like five minutes go and watch that now, Lou actually uses some outdated terminology, like the R word and stuff like that. Video was produced in 1987 so just keep that in mind. Okay? And number two is for you to go to mcie.org and check out our resources page. I want to call out one particular resource, collaborative relationships. Now, if co teaching is interesting to you and how Brittany was describing targeted co teaching, there's a lot more information about what that means and what that looks like in our resources on the website, mcie.org/resources, and look for the file collaborative relationships. Okay, that is it for this episode of Think inclusive. Time for the credits. Think inclusive is written, edited, designed, mixed and mastered by me Tim Villegas, and is a production of the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education, Original Music by miles credit, additional music from melody, thanks to our wonderful sponsor, IXL. Make sure you check out ixl.com/inclusive to learn more about how IXL can be a resource for you. Thank you so much for listening, and please make sure to wherever you listen or watch, to like, subscribe, give us a review, make a comment, send us a message on social media, let us know that you are listening. We love to know if any of these episodes have been useful to you. Thanks for your time and attention and remember, inclusion always works you.