Although I can't. Hello everyone. Good morning. Thanks for filtering in. Yeah, We'll give it some minutes for folks to arrive. Good morning and good evening to Rab if she's here. Over in India, not yet.
Good morning Nedjma. Thanks for joining us. Right now zoom is showing me Leah's photo of some goats, and they look like really beautiful goats.
Morning. morning. They are beautiful about their nose, no they belong to snow barns where I used to work.
Oh cool, GOSH, you have some really cool jobs.
That one's name is cow, GOAT, I bet you can tell a lot.
Yeah, it makes total sense. All right, we got a good crew forming. Hello Becca from Region network thank you for being here.
And I'm just going to pull up the link to the location on our board today, where we're going to be starting. So that's going to be right here in the chat.
Okay well I'm gonna go ahead and get started. I don't see Revati yet, but I'm sure she'll be joining us momentarily. Hello everyone. Good morning, I was just on with the, yeah, okay, maybe she's just taking a few minutes. Um, yeah, so this is the OpenTEAM community platform collab a THON, and we're talking about today, how we can engage land stewards of all kinds in the creation and use of a community platform to help farmers do their work, and to help OpenTEAM achieve its goals for supporting them. So I'm going to go ahead and share my screen. And we have a mirror board for you today. And so let me just share a little bit more about what today is all about. We're going to be doing. And let's see, I'm trying to think if we have any brand new faces today. Not that I'm seeing yet. So you all are probably familiar with our setup here. Our approach our terms, our impact statements and process agreements, all of those are over here for your perusal. At any time, and then as for today. This is a space to talk about how we engage with land stewards, it was definitely one of the biggest themes we heard in our first few sessions. The question of how do we actually bring the land stewards themselves into the room and into co creation with us as we shape Hylo to be a community platform to serve regenerative agriculture, we really want them to be as as engaged as possible and CO creating this with us we don't just want to be making something, you know, just a bunch of technologists in a room and then giving it to land stewards and thinking that's going to work or that that's a good approach. We really want to be working with the people whose hands are in the soil every day. As early as we can be, and working in a good way with those communities because it's not easy to be a farmer, it's a 24 Seven job, and we don't want to. Yeah, we don't want to approach, in a way that doesn't respect that and honor what it means to be a Land Steward. And so that's, yeah that's what we're gonna be talking about today I wanted to really create a container for the folks involved in this club upon to share more deeply about how you engage with land stewards currently what types of land stewards do you engage with, how do you work together, what special considerations are there for working with these groups and being in relationship with them. And then we're going to get into okay well with those things in mind, what would be the best strategy for welcoming these groups into collaboration with us. If we are to create like a focus group of wind stores, what does that look like, how does it work, how will we recruit the members. Do we have any ideas already about who some of those specific members might be I know we've mentioned a few, but that yeah that's the overall plan. And I'm going to start us off with a canvas exercise that comes from the world of pro social.
So let's see. I just want to see if Fred is here yet. She's here.
Okay, great. Okay, great, great, great, great, okay cool Hi Ralph welcome. Awesome. So in that case, I'm going to go ahead and move us into this, and I'm going to share the mirror link one more time. For anyone that has just joined that's in the chat. Alright, so this is a pro social collective Canvas matrix and pro social is a really awesome methodology and framework. And there's a book about it called pro social and the Terran collective team is good friends and partners with the pro social team. We have gone through their facilitator training and studied this work and we're in deep partnership with them and exploring. Exploring Yeah, really really awesome stuff and basically the pro social framework is, it's all about how groups can collaborate effectively, and their work is based on the work of Elinor Ostrom, who many of you on this call might be familiar with. She's a Nobel Prize laureate who was recognized for her work studying groups around the world, engaged in governance of comments, or common pool resources, and she found eight principles that were ubiquitous for these groups that were doing their work successfully. Things like, equitable, decision making, equitable, benefits and rewards for people in the group. Self, the ability to self govern for that group. Strong conflict resolution processes, things like this that really just make a ton of sense, but are actually very rarely implemented in a lot of groups today. And so we really rely on the guidance of this book, and a lot of our work, and the tools that they, that they share in their facilitator training and the canvas is one of them, and the canvas is a really powerful way to surface, very quickly, what is actually important about the given matter at hand, and really to create a field of coherence and group intelligence is astoundingly efficient manner. So, what I want to do for the first session, segment of our call here is to work through this canvas together. Basically we're going to work through the quadrants and spend just a few minutes in each quadrant, answering the question. So, the right half of the canvas is about what we want and what we are drawn to, and the left half of the canvas is about the things that restrain us the things that worry us or push us away. The things that push us further from our goals, and then we're going to have a resolution of them. So we're going to dive in to the first quadrant of the canvas with number one in the top right. And the question that I want us all to consider, and we'll we'll do, let's say like three minutes on this. The question is, what matters most to us, to all of us to me to you about involving land stewards in CO creating the community platform, and especially what values and aims. Should we hold to as we consider this. So, please take a moment to pop a post it note in there. And we're going to, yeah, just take your, take your time and I'll just be timing us Go. Okay, just one more minute. Alright, I'm
going to start reading some of these off while we're finishing up this quadrant. So lots of great submissions here. Thank you. What matters to us, making sure it works for the land stewards, yes. So critical accessibility to all levels of tech literacy, making sure the platform is worth their time, creating a tool Land Steward, want to engage with making sure that we're not feeling judgment for the either others or ourselves sharing thoughts, opinions and struggles, creating something that works and meets people where they are at. Yeah, making sure people feel comfort, providing feedback yes yes yes trust, openness, accessibility, yeah so definitely some big themes, emerging,
ensuring equity multilingual, oh and I love whoever's putting stars on things, that's a really great idea.
Easy to use. Yeah. Okay, amazing. So, we're gonna move on to quadrant two now. And, of course, feel free to keep starting or adding things. But here we are in quadrant two in the bottom right. So the new question is, if we were really living in line with the things that we just mentioned, that we value in the first quadrant. What behaviors would we'd be doing more of, or less of. So that was just about our values and our beliefs, and now it's like what actions do we take to back these up.
Okay, let's take just one more minute in this quadrant. And I'm going to start sharing some of what I see, really important when I see is rewarding farmers and land stewards for their engagement. Another one says, offer social rewards and p2p learning as part of the process. That's pretty cool, bringing value as we ask questions. Yeah, so like there's a sense of reciprocity that I think is really important. They're asking a lot of questions. Onboarding from a tool they are already comfortable with, makes a lot of sense, actively seeking out and engaging with missing voices. Yeah, and recognizing which voices are missing.
Yeah, figuring out the difference between onboarding early adopters, and then other land stewards,
high quality pilots and level of support.
Yeah and listening and engaging in a way that is, that feels respectful for them of their time and energy and support for the land stewards throughout the process. Yeah, at every step of using the platform. Amazing. This is so so good. And yes, again with the stars, I love that I love that. Okay, well I'm going to go ahead and move us on to the next quadrant, feel free to keep adding thoughts wherever you wish. But now I'm over here in the top left. And I have to warn you all that the someone's moving the canvas.
Just try to pull it back. Here we go. Oh no, no. There we go here, just trying to move the text. I'm going to lock it whenever you're done moving it. Yeah I am done. Yeah. All right.
Feel free to to lock it now. Okay, all right, sorry about that, this. Yeah, always a thing with Canvas exercises. So I was just about to warn you all that the left side of this exercise is pretty serious, and can stimulate feelings. This is the part where we're kind of looking at the shadow of what we're doing, and creating space for feelings of doubt, uncertainty, and that's okay. So we're going to dive in and then we're going to get to a resolution of those feelings, so it's a little bit of an emotional journey. So now the question for us in the top left corner is what thoughts and feelings might hook me or get in the way of what we're trying to do. On the right side of the canvas here so as we're as we're trying to honor our values and behaviors that will take us through our values. What feelings could get in the way of that or what might meet what feelings might we encounter from others as we try to do this work. So we'll spend a couple minutes here.
Okay, so let's just take one more minute here, seeing a lot of really really reasonable questions. So things that can get in the way for us, fears of not being inclusive enough or not having inclusive enough language.
Fear of pushing certain groups away, or working too closely with our existing comfortable network questions of whether land stewards will even be willing to engage with us in this process. Do we have enough trust enough relationship, to, to engage with these communities, feelings of scarcity around resources, like do we have enough money to do this enough time. How does this work with funding timelines or product development timelines. The question of oh no not another platform. I'm making sure we engage people at the right time because if it's too early, we don't want to cause frustration or too late that we haven't included the right voices, whoever that that's like, you're just read my mind. Yeah, so, So really yeah some really great critical thinking here. So now I want to move us on to quadrant four. Just two more to go. And so, in the bottom left here. The question now is what behaviors might people see us doing when we are acting based on the things we just expressed in quadrant three, so when we're acting based on these restraints, what would we be doing what yeah what would people see us doing so again it's the behavior is based on the feelings we just expressed.
Okay, we'll take another minute here and I'm going to start sharing, from what I see. Okay, some of the ones with stars so far are. Yeah, paralysis, just not maybe not being sure what to do. Exactly. Um, lack of participation or people stopping participation, definitely seeing multiple things around, I'm only working with communities that we already know are familiar with, rather than kind of like going out on a limb and trying to engage to new groups, building features in the silo, not communicating adequately. No, not working with diverse types of land stewards. Yeah, worrying about what could go wrong. Focusing on the limitations of the tech stack or school rather than opportunities, rushing to build. Yeah, allowing frustration to get the better of us using language that perpetuates harmful behavior. Those are all. Yeah, all really good points. Yeah so this part of the canvas is like yeah it's it's serious, and it's, it's, I think this is so helpful because it really just allows us to get all of these feelings out there in the open, so that we can then hold them, and be aware of them together. And with all of these things in mind. I'm going to take us down here to the resolution, and this part actually wants to go down here. Part Five, with compassion for the feelings we expressed in the top left, and the behaviors we just expressed in the bottom left. How can we move forward, how can we hold those things while we move forward and implement the values that are driving us and the, and the things we want to do on the right side of the canvas. So it's like how do we integrate all of these things, so that we can be effective doing what we want to do.
Amazing okay I'm seeing so much. really good contributions here. I'm gonna start sharing some of these out. This is, this is the part of the canvas that's like, okay, yes this is what we need to do, it's all right here, this is what we need to do. So I just starting over here on the left. Yeah, not being too attached to our perceived outcomes or goals. Being aware of our barriers or biases, understanding that we will make mistakes, as we explore this process, absolutely, making sure that we are addressing systemic barriers. We could use networks of land stewards that we do have relationships with that might feel comfortable being honest, as well as intentional outreach to Lancers that are diverse in terms of practices, and probably in terms of a lot of things. I said outreach to answered groups that are not yet part of OpenTEAM to include different voices. I think it's really important that we make a plan for the reciprocity for the land stewards, and that might include asking land stewards, like what would be helpful for them, you know, do people want mentorship opportunities education opportunities do they want cash, like, what, you know, whatever it is we can figure out how to make that work, making sure we reduce jargon, and I said using accessible language. Yeah, so definitely making it like an accessible and approachable process whatever we do, be prepared to be surprised. I'm sure we will be being conscious of our assumptions. Yeah human centered design process. Yep. I'm
incorporating feedback and meeting agendas and participants to assure representation and being responsive to new participants in a structured way. Yeah, so like having structure around what we do is what they take from that for sure. Yeah, and then there's like some, some like openness things like making sure we're not pushing something that just doesn't work. Being willing to pivot, being open to tools, or tech stacks that might emerge in this process. And oh my GOSH so much good stuff, creating an accessible process for feedback that is user friendly, yeah 100% We want it to be so easy for anyone to participate in this process with us, giving feedback should be so easy. Yeah, lots of feedback loops.
Yeah, some really great thoughts on like process down here, such as bringing new participants in as affinity groups to build trust and community, facing a hard challenge, so like dropping people into like an actual scenario an actual community scenario that they care about. That makes a lot of sense. Empowering participants early with consequential decision making, where they can generate positive feedback loops early, right. So again like dropping people into something that they actually care about and have a stake in. That makes a lot of sense to me. Um, then requesting feedback and offering clarity at every step, and making sure everyone involved knows where we are headed at every point in the process. Yeah, these, these all make tons of sense.
Yeah. Looking at the big picture, as you move towards our goal rather than dwelling on the small things. Yeah, we'll be attentive to the small things but we do want to keep the focus on the big picture as well. Yeah, and there's so many here I'm not, I'm not catching all of them, but I find this to be super helpful. And I'd love to open it up if anyone has one that I didn't read that you'd like to share or if anyone has any reflections on this process. I'd love to spend a few minutes on that before we move on, or any questions.
Oh, I accidentally clicked on a link in the chat.
I think I'm finding it really oh sorry. Please don't think I'm finding it really interesting because I don't really even know everyone's roles in this group, but that we're basically all rolling with similar ideas and just, you know, different ways of saying it and I think that's really interesting, and it bodes really well for this work that we're all trying to hold space for the same thoughts about it. Hmm. Yeah thanks Becca. Now how did you have something to share
just a reflection but this type of process I find to be so simple yet incredibly effective. And what we were able to surface are such powerful themes, between all of our work, and also just naming the things that might get in the way of us being successful and so, us being able to surface this content collectively gives us a lot to work with and influence the way that we take our next steps. So I'm just really appreciative I can see how critically everyone was thinking about each question. And thanks for showing up so fully in that way because that will let us be very honest and authentic about how we approach some of these processes and engaging with land stewards. Thanks Claire for walking us through that so beautifully.
Yeah, thanks for going on this journey with me, I really appreciate how everyone just dived into it and yeah we surfaced a lot of really good stuff.
All right, quick selection, please. This process is super useful and I think it's, it's just, I love that it's so intentional and thank you for walking us through it. And I do think, I mean the people on this call, I mean, I know only some of you, I think, and clearly all of you are incredible people and the. You can see that everything here is people have tried their best to be open and authentic and whatnot. I also wonder why wonder if there are teams that might have opened up, especially in. Number three or four but might not, but we're not picked up on in terms of our interactions and whatnot because there's a process that is usually so intense. This is relatively a short period of time that we walked through, and I was wondering what you were thinking in terms of sort of the steps ahead and ways to reconcile with something that may have surveys, but you might not have dealt with income, actions and things like that.
Yeah, I think that's a really, really amazing point, we totally did breeze through this, and this is just scratching the surface. So, what my intention is coming out of this call and using what's in this canvas is to create a proposal based on what I hear from all of you about what is a good way to move forward, engaging with land stewards in this project, and that can be a collaborative process to make that proposal but I mean I'll take responsibility for taking your first pass at synthesizing from this call, and then I will share that around for feedback from all of you to make sure that I have adequately captured all of our values and behaviors about what we want to do, as well as that the proposal addresses the things on the left side here and make sure that we are meeting all of these feelings or behaviors with a solution in our plan, so that we are taking all of these things into account as possibilities and our process, and that we are thinking about how to mitigate them proactively. Yeah. Yeah, and there will be plenty of opportunity to share more, you know more about these concerns I definitely, I don't want to indicate that we're like done talking about our concerns, we can we can definitely drill into more of those. As we explore. So now I want to move on to a more listening oriented container. In this call and for the rest of this call, and that is to listen to all of you about your current work engaging with land stewards to get a sense of what is the existing landscape. And so there are three categories here and I just went ahead and put some posts for the different groups on this call, and if you represent a different group that doesn't have post its I'm very sorry, please add post it's. So that's the three big questions that I have for thinking, like, information that I want to have as I think about how we engage land stewards in this work. That is knowing what types of land stewards are already in our landscape. So, what types of groups do we already have relationships with. I don't know a ton about all the different groups that Becca Regen Network might be engaging with, I don't know a ton about rev at region foundation. I definitely have some idea about OpenTEAM At this point, but there's so many different moving pieces that I'm sure I don't have the full picture. And of course with open rivers and Terra ethics I also would love to know more about the people in your network, too, so just kind of like, you know, who is it is it is it like commodity croppers in in the Great Plains, is it a regenerative specialty crop growers in the Northeast. Is it, people who have completed the transition to regenerative agriculture. Is it commercial farms is it demonstration farms, is it research farms. All of these types of things right, you know, ranchers, yeah, like I don't even know all of the potential categories there might be but I just want to get a sense of that landscape and it might also be like digital native farmers from the younger generation or more elder farmers who have less experience with technology and less comfort with technology, people living in low bandwidth connectivity scenarios, people that have, you know, high bandwidth smartphones, like all of these kinds of things right. So yes, everyone's diving into the board. Thank you, please go ahead and do that. And then the follow up questions will be, what do you do with these groups of people currently and what considerations should we have in mind as we aspire to work with these groups, you know what special needs, do they have, what, what concerns do they live with that we can be attentive to. So, so yeah exactly, I would love everyone to just dive in and share you can also speak thoughts aloud here. Absolutely and we can take notes. But we'd love to spend about 15 to 20 minutes sharing and talking about this.
Yeah, demographic information for these, These types of groups is really great.
Languages spoken, etc, etc.
Amazing. So, yeah, thank you to those moving on to the next piece here about how you work with these groups. One thing that I'm getting a sense of is just like how absolutely super varied, the types of land stewards we're working with is. And one thing that makes me think, is it might be kind of hard to include many different types of land stewards in one cohort. And maybe there's like separate cohorts that kind of cluster like land stewards together. Yeah, I just wonder if that might make for like an easier experience for them and for us.
Yeah, this is, This is wonderful everyone I'm finding myself very curious and excited about what I think Becca is doing over here with her flow chart. And I'd love it actually, if you could speak to this, Becca and share a little bit about this flow of how you work with land stewards. Sure. Um, now or later. What makes sense. Mmm hmm, just ping me when no okay yeah I guess let's give it a few more minutes and we can also take a stab at this last line which is what considerations are important when working with the groups that you represent. And then, and then we'll go back to you.
Well this is so great, y'all. Thank you. I yeah I just can't believe how much is here and I'm definitely getting the sense that this is part one of two, at least, and that. Yeah, I just want to make sure we have time for a conversation around all these things. Yeah, so at this point, I'd love to invite Becca onto the into the circle to share a little bit about what she posted and then I'd love to hear from others, I'd love to hear from Rev. From from Najma. Yeah, just, just speaking into the circle about, about what you do and how you work with them stewards.
Sure thing. So I'm in green, over to the left. And I'll try to help make sense of my, of my flow I'm not sure what was going on there but anyway. So then I divided the land stewards that I work with into two groups. So, the land stewards that we connect with you our intake form, And then the land stewards that are in our pipeline in our process. So the intake form itself, we're not at a point where we need to do outreach. Our intake Forum is a beautiful backlog of a lot of great work done in the world and I love looking through it and seeing the various size operations to like five Hector's all the way up to 1000s and 1000s, the great variety of cultures and races that are represented there. And the think the practices are really the range is just huge, with what we're seeing the work being done in all sorts of different ecosystems from wetlands to cropping systems you know forestry agroforestry to ranching so huge group they're the folks that are in our process in our pipeline are ones that are able to participate in the grasslands credit and methods. So, those are ranchers, and right now, in Australia, the US and South America. And that's mainly because that's where current large swathes of grasslands are, and where regenerative practices have taken hold, and then also where we have data that's usable for our process. So there are huge data gaps and predictable parts of the worlds that we're trying to reconcile so for right now, that's our type of Land Steward there. Then, how do we work with them. So it's kind of a combination of building a relationship and then figuring out all of the onboarding and science and economics. And so, a lot of things are interrelated as you can tell so you know they come to us and maybe that we just need to resource them with some things to have in mind for a future method. So we're just like, hey, you're doing awesome work. Here's some cool things. So we're trying to build rapport and that we're wanting to build a community even though we don't have a current credit opportunity for them. And then we're, if that does look like a good fit, then they start going through our flow so there's a pre evaluation which I like to consider going both ways they're pre evaluating us and we're pre evaluating them. So it's very much about viability of a potential project so we get into lots of specific questions. As you can imagine over multiple phone calls, and within those phone calls, there's a lot of just person human to human, you know like, what's going on and building a relationship there but we have to get into a lot of details related to specific practices and how long they've been in place and
the sampling that they do. So this is where I lean in and where a lot of my soil science had and kind of figure out that flow, and we're trying to connect them to, you know to others in the field to let say that it's not quite the right fit, so we're trying to get them along other pathways to other methods and figuring out how to continually show up and engage and support them in our process, or if they're kind of holding on for the future. And this also goes for groups of land stewards so for put an example like National cattlemen beef so these groups have, you know, large, you know, millions of acres, and they are also wanting to engage and their needs might be a little bit different. So it's similar questions relates related to sequence duration rate potential you know how viable could this be, and then how can we support. And then the last section what considerations, being upfront and transparent is the most important for us for me. And that's where we get the most like thank you from them is like we, you know, this is our livelihood. So pieces that are included in that are holding space for their questions, being willing to learn about what they do, I am not a rancher, so I need to be learning about their, their world. Keeping the relationship over the transaction being super flexible to their needs because they're running a huge operation, making them feel really good about their work and seeing because a lot of times they very easily get aligned for, you know, the hard work that they do. So showing up for them, taking some of the economic risks out as much as possible. And then lastly I put in advocating for their needs, because oftentimes science and business tend to be louder voices in the space. So keeping their voice at the center of of the work.
Thank you so much, that is incredibly helpful. Yeah, I have a lot of questions and I would love to follow up, I think one on one and learn more. But what I'd like to do for the rest of this call is I'd actually just love to hear from all of the different groups that are represented here. I think that yeah that would be the nicest, like I'd love to hear from Rev. I'd love to hear from whoever put all these posters for OpenTEAM Maybe that was Leah, Maybe it was Dorn. And as well as Terra ethics and open rivers, so maybe for each of those we can just take, like, I don't know, like, five minutes, and then that that'll be the balance of our call. And then there's lots more discussion that we will do at a later date, I think, but for now I just would really love to hear from those who are present and and sharing all of this, so that we can all get a sense of the landscape here.
Great. Should I go first,
going in order. Sure. So the sort of caveat to this is a deliberately sort of reduced and did not add things that I thought would be already covered by region network OpenTEAM or turai ethics and open reverse folks. So, I'm deliberating deliberately covering communities that that may not be the ones that are easy to cover in this experiment, and that includes folks in India, those who are rural and women, indigenous communities in Amazon, Ecuador, very little tech experience. Although folks in semi urban to urban India, more check experience more levels of literacy, but still really bad. Access to tech still requiring sort of a mobile phone back data and bandwidth, things like that. But, how we work with them I think is, apart from how the other organizations work with them. the foundation explicitly seeks to onboard them into the region network and lecture and allow them to be able to participate in governance, as well as give them a wise and let them participate in, claiming the rewards of staking rewards. When they are a part of it, and how that should be used, how that can, that they can use for projects that do you see as benefiting them. And we, and connect them with other resources and whatnot that might be beneficial when still projects are there. There's also a piece about outreach to them. If, for them to be able to qualify for endometrium, the foundation but I think that gets connected to sort of projects or suggesting other communities to come on, right, who might qualify for. For token endowment, or staking rewards. I think something to emphasize your and which can be helpful and important is on the foundation and we are looking at this as an engagement in phases. So the first phase is actually engaging with folks who have greater literacy greater tech accessibility and knowledge of engaging with things like crypto and governance, and have them being community stewards who put us in touch with the others and then at a later stage, engage with the lands towards directly so this would be engaging woodlands to add communities, why an intermediary or is to work. And the last thing to call out about these communities, I think, is they're often really really hesitant to provide feedback. Because usually, most of them don't feel like they know enough about tech or what they say to be valuable. There might also be a lot of barriers in terms of language or culture. I mean, we're in instance, if we, they may not know what the term lights do or even is or be able to relate to it right. So so I think those are really important to consider when talking to them designing anything for them or with them.
That's so so great. Thank you. Okay, yeah, that's super helpful. Thank you very much right for walking us through that. Great, yes and for your conciseness as well. All right, so how about from the OpenTEAM side.
Sure, I'll hop in. Yeah of course. So, in terms of who we engage, we have a bunch of different players here so we have research farms and ranches. We have land grant university farms and research stations, which kind of ties into the university's working in Cooperative Extension. With demonstration farms, and then we also have the northern commodity green production in transition towards generative agriculture, international networks of small small holders in North Africa, but a lot of our, and then we also have farmer networks. So some of those farmer networks are here in the Northeast. Some of them are in Pennsylvania. Some of those are also included in this northern commodity grain production so we have a bunch of different land stewards that we're working with, how we engage with these different groups are providing tech tools, right, but also providing support and training for these tech tools. A big portion of what we do is provide networking opportunities with others, land stewards, researchers, etc, and building communities and networks to share these share resources. We also provide support for soil sampling and protocol use for some of these groups primarily ones in the northeast, but the app we're building out to our field methods work. We support the development of share questions and build trusted affinity and communications between these different networks. And then we also facilitate feedback across these different regions and different land stewards, but like, ultimately all of this when it comes down to as part of this last up here which is supporting tech research integration and interoperability. And so that's sort of at the core of what we do and all of these other things are a means to getting to that. And then, for our last, I can't remember the considerations that we have to keep in mind. Patience is a big one, making sure that we're gaining trust for between us and our land stewards but also Land Steward to Land Steward, understanding that there is a learning curve for a lot of these tech tools and that trust is really integral for us as we move forward to make sure that we're meeting the needs of land stewards and taking that feedback seriously, making sure that we're providing the right level of support at the right time, making sure we're meeting our hubs and land stewards where they're at in this process. Using hubs and digital intermediaries to not overwhelm them, making sure we're not getting platform, because we keep introducing different tech tools and within everything that goes back to that trust to making sure that we're always keeping our land stewards in mind as we are rolling out new tech tools. Definitely respecting the time and effort from our land stewards isn't knowing that we do have a lot of questions, but making sure that they see that those questions will help them in the long run, is really important. And this working at a bottom up approach is really important for us as well.
Amazing, thank you so much. Yeah, I'm just, I'm finding this format like really really helpful. So I really appreciate everyone sharing in this way, it just really makes it very clear what everyone's doing. Yeah, so I'd love to take a few minutes with Terra ethics and open rivers and let's try to just, yeah, let's try to just leave ourselves a few minutes at the end here,
Nedjma would you like to share. Sure, I'll try not to move anything. Yeah, so I'm just trying to see what. So the types of land stewards that we work with. We work with indigenous communities, mostly here in Canada, we write, We work with rights of major organizations that work with mine stewards as well. And we, we work locally here with local farmers depending on the river because we have river full issues and to try to find innovative solutions for them and with them and with the greatest community. So that includes also the policy sectors and other organizations and and so on, and we work with. Restorative justice organizations or indigenous led mostly and international organizations in the agricultural sector in different areas. And the next I'm trying to go quickly because I know we don't have very much time. And so how we work with them is we create different proposals from different networks to support sovereignty and stewardship, especially through rights of nature, for example, with indigenous communities, and we support education on reallocation of resources, and sort of the greater Matt macro issues that we've been dealing with historically and. And currently, we do a lot of equity and practice education. We, you know, sort of pull from different networks to support the trajectory the general trajectory would do a lot of equal literacy education for the greater community in better sort of understanding or engagements with nature, and each other. We all of our strategies are harm reduce harm, based on harm reduction. And so a lot of systemic lens, and so on, and.
And let's see. Yeah, Two things to keep in mind is you know definitely I think a lot of people have talked about active listening
and awareness of again the macro issues, awareness of our positionality. And so often, being in the background in the work that we do. Being aware of historical barriers because of that, particularly supporting diversified leadership. And always operating from an equity and ecosystems lens. And, yeah, engaging with awareness, and equity in practice. So, so, you know, all engagements are sort of based on equity in practice for, you know, both ecosystems and social equity issues.
Wonderful, thank you so much. Yeah, very exciting. Very exciting. Yeah, I'm excited to learn a lot more about, about what you do. Okay, and then let's, and, yeah, I'm sorry that we're going through these a little bit quickly, but I love that. We have a chance to hear from each of you about your work. So, let's see if it was it is Atlanta is still here.
Yeah, I'm here. Thanks. Um, I'll just be quick because I think a lot of what everyone else has said is like we reflected in ours as well. I will say, we do a lot of work with, like, we're like twice removed from like those directly on the ground so we do a lot of work with organizations and groups that are directly supporting land stewards, although, you know, we're all being stewards in our own way so that would be sort of the primary thing that we work on. We do a lot of that, like we work a lot with people who are trying to make things better for those directly on the ground. So a lot of the same things that others have already shared so I won't reshare, I will say the biggest thing when working with those groups is really understanding, like the barriers and, you know, the different values that we all bring from like the people on the ground, those people supporting them and then us as like that second support, and being really understanding of like we all come at this differently. And you know, the best solutions are going to be from the times that we can acknowledge the different values and the different ways we approach things and it's not always just about building trust and relationships, sometimes it's just about understanding like we're going to do things a little bit differently and like that's okay. So I would say, like just honoring the different ways that we come to this is a really big part of what we do when we work with land stewards indirectly.
Wonderful, thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's so important. I like how you said that we're each land stewards in our own way. Definitely, we're all responsible. Yeah. Wonderful, well I yeah I just can't even say how helpful this is to see this all laid out. Yeah, as, as you all are speaking I was having a vision of kind of defined cohorts, like multiple defined cohorts, where we are kind of grouping similar land stewards together and getting feedback from like different a few different kinds of Land Steward groups, and then we can tailor that engagement to the specific needs of that type of group. For example, if we are working with land stewards who do not speak English, we might want to group them together by language group and then make sure we have an interpreter, and also implement international language support on Hylo, which is something that we really want to do. Um, yeah, so this is so, so great so helpful for us. I ambitiously thought that we might have time for more discussion, but I think this will just have to be for next time. But basically the goal is to for a synthesis of this information to result in a timeline and a strategy for how we actually involve land stewards in what we're doing here and creating the community platform, have a number of inquiries around that. So, what are the characteristics of Land Steward focus groups, how do we recruit those participants, at what point in our process do we bring them in, what time of year is best to engage with them. And, yeah, I think we'll just have to chat about this some more at a future at a future call and I'm not, you know, we're not in a rush. To do this we want to plan with a lot of intentionality and do this right. So, we can we can reflect on these. Another time I think. Or we can also asynchronously add some thoughts on this canvas. Yeah and I think these questions are going to depend on the identity of the group that we're talking about. Obviously the, the harvest season is different depending on where you live, and what kind of crops you have. So if anyone has thoughts do feel free to drop them in now or, or at another point. But I think what I'm going to do is synthesis, synthesize what we have so far and share those thoughts around for feedback asynchronously. And I'll post some my thoughts in this canvas, and then share that out, when, when I have done some more thinking about that. And then we just have a few more minutes so I'll just touch on next steps. Yeah, like I mentioned, we're going to turn this into a proposal and to start to start trying to envision what this engagement looks like with input from all of you. The next thing is that we're getting close to design review based on everything. Based on everything that we've heard so far in these sessions. Aaron has been doing some design work, and he is getting close to a point of being able to share what we have developed so far. And so, stay tuned. It looks like next week we will be able to share the first draft of these designs, and we'll share those out via online platform sigma, where you can give feedback asynchronously. And we'll have a week for people to give feedback, and then we're going to reconvene on the ninth of September and have a design review session where we look at the designs together and talk about them, and we'll have a chance to explain more about what we're doing and why and answer your questions and hear your ideas. So, we've all got to look forward to. And then what I'm thinking for the next few calls after that design review I'm really excited to do a deep dive on region Foundation, and think about how a community platform can support the allocation of tokens, the voting on how to use the staking rewards and these these very real community challenges that the constituents of region Foundation are going to enter into together.
And this might change around a little bit but one of the biggest next items. On that note is the collective governance piece. It's a, it's an element of functionality that we've always wanted to add to Hylo, it's a huge goal for us, and we're actually hearing from all of you that it is actually pretty high up on the priority list. Especially when it comes to how region foundation is working and how OpenTEAM is working. There are some real use cases to introduce collective governance. Soon, and help. Yeah, empower the communities involved, to, to be making decisions together. So, soon, whether it's on the 23rd or, or some other time. We would love to have a discovery session on that, where we'll explore what that means and what kinds of governance tools, we want, and how those might look. So that's what we have to look forward to. Yeah, so thank you all so much for being here. This was really really helpful so I'm really glad. Yeah, I'm really glad that you all shared in this way and spoke up about this desire to really lean into thinking about how we involve land stewards. I'm excited to develop a plan with all of you and to embark on on this part of the journey like actually working with Land Steward words to co create the community platform. Yeah, so, so thank you so much. And we'll, we will be in touch. Okay, take care everyone. Thank you so much. This was so great exercises. Guys, I'm so glad I'm so glad. Alright, take care everyone. Bye for now.