Words in and of themselves, missed the mark. Then the story continues, after going a little way. It occurred to him. It occurred to the monk that this Hogan was supposed to be a man of great spiritual attainment, one of the wisest teachers around so maybe maybe there was something to what he said. So he went back and this time, the monk said Had I may have been wrong. I bow and ask pardon. In reverence and repentance, I ask, How is it the self of this disciple? Hogan replied, The lamp boy is looking for the light. Or it's the boy of fire seeking fire. And with this, suddenly the monk had true enlightenment. And now here's Maureen Roshi is commentary. What happened? The first time the monk was dwelling in the realm of the intellect, of concepts of somebody else's words, some prepared answer, taking the self to look for the self, was his imitative way of saying the self is the Buddha and was no more than painting a picture. And when Hogan rejected his answer, the monks angry reaction was confirmation that he really hadn't understood. Yeah, when would a person of true insight become angry? If they were told, they had further to go, more work to do?