Episode 81: Cobra Kai - Season 4 - First Look Photos
11:28AM Jan 18, 2023
Welcome to this curious media. This is let's talk Cobra Kai. I'm Jason Connell.
And I'm Sal Rodriguez.
All right, Sal, we are back for a fun episode. And we've done this before. So
yeah, we're having deja vu here
having deja vu all over again. Because today we're breaking down Cobra Kai season four. First Look photos.
Yes. But speaking of last time, didn't they release then more photos right out of the trailer podcast. Oh, that's what happened that was. So they did it backwards this time. Because before we had the photos in the trailer, this time we had the trailer than the photo.
Yeah, they've had more time. This time around last time. They hadn't even been on Netflix yet. You know, season three was the first time it dropped new on Netflix. So yeah, and then the pandemic timeline. So I think they were just kind of, hey, here's some photos. And a couple of days later, here's a trailer. So we were like, Wait, it made our photos episode. So outdated. That's
what we thought. Yeah. Kind of it kind of then superseded the photos. Yeah.
Well, we most recently broke down season four, episode one. Let's begin the cast because we saw the cast list on IMDb. So it's our one of our more recent episodes. And then as we put that out, I noticed that the firstly photos dropped then it dropped last week. So we can't always do it in real time. Because sometimes we're like three episodes, we're recording and then this happens. So I'm excited to break this down today because some of the stuff we saw in the trailer cell and some of the photos we have not.
Yeah, there are some surprises. One I love I love seeing Yes.
Have a favorite to do you. Okay, we'll see if it's because I'm pretty sure it's the same one. Okay. Now these are courtesy of Netflix and Entertainment Weekly. And this time, unlike last year, so this is seven exclusive. First Look photos last time, it was eight.
Now when you say exclusive, you mean exclusive to People Magazine?
I think so I think that's where it comes from. So I like to give credit where credit is due. Sure. So here we go. They even give us a tag like a title. And then we can kind of break down what we see. Yep. So we'll start with the first one. And it says Daniel and Johnny make peace question mark. And of course we see Daniel Russo, Johnny Lawrence and sound pretty sure they're at Miyagi dough, and Johnny has his hand out to shake Daniels hand but Daniel has what in his hand.
Daniel is holding, sanding. What do you call those Sanders? Sanders? So what Sam would sand? Yes that you do. What? It's not wax on wax off to sand. It sands sands with what Sanders? Yeah, okay. Okay.
I remember he was like, show me send the floor down to try to go down to his knees. Yeah, he's like, no, no, no.
Okay, so Daniels holding those wells. Johnny has his hand out to shake it. And you say you think they're at the Miyagi dojo, but the backyard looks like it's a could use it to love and care, you know? Yeah,
maybe I'm not sure I'm just making an assumption. But I also liked that Daniel is kind of dismissing the gesture, for some reason, kind of like, maybe he doesn't want to I don't sure what's going on here.
It's the look of suspicion. Yeah, I would say,
maybe Johnny doesn't want us and Flores. Yeah.
Also awkward time. And you know, I'm big on timing. And this is something like I wouldn't go try to shake someone's hand while they're holding something, you know. But of course, leave it to Johnny to not even pay attention and just stick his hand out. But I think I think if anything, this is probably probably the most important photograph of what we've all been hoping for anticipating and that is the unification of Eagle Fang. May be Rest in peace, Eagle Fang and Miyagi dough. Daniel and Johnny, this is the olive branch right here. Yeah, well,
well, we've also seen them and Season Three bowing to each other. So I think that they're on the same page, and they don't look upset with one another. You know, it's just kind of comical. I was. Like, if Daniel has these on he is doing some Miyagi dough training, or he's actually sanding the floor. Yeah, literally, I don't know what's happening. And Johnny's like, what do you got there? Or put her here? I have no idea. Yeah, they're on opposite ends, but they're not at odds with each other. They look like they're, it's the odd couple on the same page. Odd Couple. Yeah. They may be on the same page and getting along. But that doesn't mean they're not going to have little Tango and Cash riffs. They're gonna bust each other's chops. That's what you do. Right? That's what they do. So that's the first one. Do you see the photos too, because I could let you say the captions. I don't know if you had that in front of you. I'm happy to do this. The
photos are right here. Sure. Okay,
so number two.
Number two, the kids are as surprised as we are the group shot of
at nine students. There's nine students in the shot. Wait a
second. 123456789 Yeah, nine
Demetri Hawk, Samantha, Bert, Nathaniel, Mitch and Miguel and there's one just above Miguel and I can barely see it and I forget his name.
Is that a new kid for season four, I think isn't it?
I think I've seen him before but whatever. For there's nine in the frame, they do a good job but sad it looks like they're crammed in a doorway and again, I think Miyagi dough. Yeah, they
look like they're gonna get Oh, sure. Yeah.
Okay. And he's driving my guests. They're observing Daniel on Johnny bonding. That's my guess
what? Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what else they would be looking at. But yeah, conversation with Daniel and Johnny. Of course, they're not too subtle. They're clear as day trying to spy but yeah, there they are. It's a real cute, you know, this is a very cute group shot and you know what this reminds me of? And I'm going to date myself. Yeah, this reminds me of an old picture of The Little Rascals or our gang. Yes. Because it's a very shall Falfa
Yeah, yeah. Buck we Yeah, absolutely. Well, if Daniel or Johnny look over, there's no way on nine can hide. Yeah. They're gonna get busted. So their spine cutely? Yeah, good call. All right, you'd be the announcer
for the next photograph. Yeah, keep going. Okay, next photograph number three. A very special kick and yeah, this is I don't know I don't know if I take back what I said when I said that other photograph was supporting this and I really
liked this. I wasn't thinking about this one because we've seen this we saw this on the trailer. We know that Johnny and in this photo in particular, he is in the Crane Kick pose. While Daniel is in full Miyagi baseball gear.
See but look at the background look how manicured Miyagi dough is so that that other shot
maybe they had to clean it up again. Maybe he got ransacked again, maybe Chris sent the minions over and they knock things around like they did in previous episodes.
Because this looks really great. This looks very inviting of man. eautiful manicured landscape. Look at that map. Look how soft and clean that mat is. This looks like a really cool place to train. And on top of that, we have Johnny doing the crane. That is crazy.
And do you think that's Miyagi actual baseball outfit from the Karate Kid?
I think oh, you know what? I forgot about the chest protector. He has the chest protector at the hole and ask yes. Wow. I would say so. Yeah, because especially that chest protector. It has one of those would like a Korean War era look like something from like between World War Two and Vietnam somewhere in that era.
Exactly. I love it. I love seeing it. I'm sure Dan has this like alright, we get it. Yeah, doing the crane witness party had Miguel do the crane and Cobra Kai. Understood. Can we just give it a rest? And date? Johnny's a good sport. He took the crane to the head last he would have been a three time champ so good on him.
Jason, can I just toot our own horn or give a little shout out to our previous episode where we talk about Darrell the doll. Darrell the doll such as when you listen to this episode, you're going to hear what a foundational figure he is in the Miyagi dough verse and the Cobra Kai verse and particular as it relates to the crane. Listen to our Darrell Vidal episode. Pay attention when we talk about the crane and your mind will be blown.
Yes. And just to be clear, Darryl muddles real life name is Daryl the doll. So cool. It's a good day. It is a legend. Okay, let's move on to number four.
Number four. And here we are Jays. Number.
This is your favorite. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, because,
I mean, okay. Number four enemies plot. And we have a two shot of John crease and Terry Silva. And here's why this is really significant to me. They're eating in an elegant restaurant. Very
posh restaurant. Yeah. High end. High end.
Okay, Jason. I don't think we've ever seen Terry silver with his hair down.
Yeah, loving this. Wow. He's
got silver last man. Yeah, he has some
lot. He looks great. And so do you think that they're going to choose an LA landmarks spot? Of course we know this is going to be shot in Atlanta or was shot in Atlanta, but with a given homage to some cool establishment in LA. You know what I mean? Will it be Musso And Frank's or will it be the Dresden or or will it be some benign thing? We don't know?
No. That's a very good point. I think that if they want to keep that there's that hometown love that. Yeah. So attached to the original Karate Kid, and then has then now gone into the Cobra Kai universe, because they still recognize Encino they still recognize North Hollywood receita Yeah, so yeah, that's a very good point. So now I really want to pay attention to where are Korea went that shot? Yeah. Where are they eating here? What are they talking about? What are they scheming about and
plot but it looks like these two know times past it also, like they're just having a conversation in Yeah, maybe it's the Cobra Kai plan and they reveal all these things. At the same time. It's like two buddies that have not missed a beat. Yeah, it's what it looks slot. Yeah. And that's what happens with old friends, old friends. I mean, now we know the backstory of these two. They have a lot of history. Yes, yes. So I am anxious just to see as a fly on the wall. What do they talk about? What do they do when they're not being? The biggest jerks in the world in the Cobra Kai Karate Kid universe, but very interesting. So, your favorite in the book? It's my
favorite. I love. Okay, I'm probably most jazzed up about seeing Terry silver and season four. Like yeah, like that's the thing I'm most jazzed up about. Like, I'm very excited to see Terry silver. So far. These little teases. I'm loving it. Yeah, I'm dying to know what their plans are. And I'm hoping for the at least cameo by Mike Barnes. Maybe maybe the you know, the speculation. I think once you get into the Terry silver thought you think maybe Mike Barnes maybe. Okay. But anyway, yeah, I love the shot. I want to know where this restaurant is. Mean. And, oh, I'm so dying for the season. Seriously, if you can
bring back Luna, from the credit card part to the girl he saves? Yes, yes. Yes. From the bring her back this small roll. You can bring Mike Barnes back. And you don't have to make a big hubbub about it. Bring him back and like oh my god, there's Mike Barnes. You know, it's not like Terry silver bringing him back. So I think that now that we have Terry silver back, he brought out lay back about chosen back you back. Can we go back? Yes. Mike Barnes. You heard it here. First. We'll be back at some point this season. My prediction we will use
at some point this season. You believe some point is
my prediction. Yeah. You wouldn't wait on it is not like Julie from next credit kid. He's not a two time Oscar winner where it's like, hey, that'd be that could happen. But that's a bigger ask. Bring Mike Barnes back. He could just be in passing. Hey, listen, if I'm gonna go there, bring Friday Fernandez back bring Terrell window back. But I said it here. I believe Mike Barnes will make an appearance this season. If I know these show runners. I think it's gonna happen.
I think if it does happen, it'll happen at the end of season four. And Mike Barnes will lead us into season five. I think that's what probably happened. Yeah. But you know what, thanks to Cobra Kai, we have more of a clearer perspective on Karate Kid three on why Terry silver, being in his position would sacrifice so much to help. John crease Why would he do such a thing? Go back into the back. There we go. So yeah, they have a long history. So these guys are old road dogs. Yeah, they are. Alright, number five. Number five. No mercy for Tori and Robbie.
Now we've seen this in the trailer. Yes, yes. And go ahead. What do we say?
I like to think there's romantic undertones. I think especially when in the trailer when you see the couple different angles. I think there's some romantic overtones. So you have Robbie on his back in the middle of the Cobra Kai Dojo on the mat. And you have squatted over him about to deliver a left punch. Tori. Yep. Yeah. Interesting shot.
Yeah, she's about to show no mercy to young Robbie and crease is in the background. And he's not about to step in at all. He's letting it play out
one of those other people there in the shot. There's three other students standing out there. Maybe he told one of them to put the flags away. But the
kids don't put the flags down. Now meanwhile, everyone's in white GIS and white belts.
Yes, except for Chris who was in his lap. Long Sleeve black and by the way, that's also extra significant because I don't think we've seen crease in this outfit.
I liked that outfit. Idea. It's a long sleeve million a year but yeah, it looks good at it. Yeah.
It's fantastic. So Tory would be what we would presently call for you MMA fans, ground and pound ground on Robbie.
Yeah, he's about to tap out. So this leads us to number six and my personal favorite. Oh,
yes. Okay. This, we got to talk about this.
My gosh, I cannot believe this out. I would
not recognize them. This is called a father son moment picture six of the seventh. And we have Daniel seated on a couch looking to his left talking to his son Anthony, who I would not
recognize on believable. This is Anthony Griffin Santo Pietro, who we've had on the show fan of the show friend of the show, he would say absolutely. And now so he's full grown. I mean, we go a season. He's like this little kid and then he's growing and he seemed a little soccer off it and like, bam, he's a teenager. Like, what the heck yes,
yes. Jason. You know what? He had the growth spurt that I never had. Mike, by the way, he looks great. He looks fantastic. Fantastic.
And Sal, I have said this in the past I I've said it to Griffin himself. I was always wanting and waiting for Anthony to emerge and join the Miyagi dough family.
I think they're hinting here. They're teasing something here. You know what I think so too, it'll be one of those come out of left field things. When we start to see the rise of Anthony,
he could be a real wildcard this season. So I really believe it.
Look that hair. Oh, my gosh, look at how bad I want that hair. I wish I had hair like that.
He was always hilarious in the first season. Yeah. And maybe some of the second then he kind of disappears and he goes and stays at Amanda's parents house or is it camp and this, that, and the other because they had so many people, so many characters, and he's young, and everyone's in this, like, teen role and all these things. And so now, guess what? He's all grown up. And he probably has hopefully I haven't talked to him recently. But he's been practicing martial arts. Or maybe they just hint to him getting involved. And he's set up for season five. This could be the end of season four. We don't know. But we do know. They have to address this. They have to put him in the show. And make him out component. Jason a real component to Jason
I've got it here. You ready? Yeah. My boss. Yes. Yes. Anthony fights Mike Barnes son Hello. That's gonna be that will be so awesome. And you know what, like I said, they're always flipping the script. So who knows what's going to happen? I'm telling you, I think that Anthony could be the ace in the hole.
Well, I do think he's a wild card. I mean, he did enjoy video game fighting, right. He always had his video games going on. He enjoyed going to all valley the only all Valley we've ever seen on Cobra Kai, and his mother and Amanda had to whisk him away early. And Sam, they all left he wanted to stay or we want him to stay with his father. He was enjoying the butt kicking and the fighting cuz he was this young kid. Well, now he's developed, he's got these genes is Miyagi genes through Daniel, and the Dojo is in the house. And now Miyagi knows a thing. So it's just natural progression that he would aspire to and be in. And he's got no axe to grind. Other than carrying on the family name.
Yeah, carrying on the torch. And you know what, Jason and Samantha Of
course, too, but of she's caught up in things, you know.
So we're not dismissing Samantha whatsoever now, but we're just offering a more significant role for Anthony in the Miyagi versus Don't you think, Jason that he looks like a young macho here? Absolutely. I think he looks like he could legitimately be much yo son in this picture. Yeah. And a young Stallone. Yeah, a little bit of both of them. Yeah. Again, the tie ends that connection between the Karate Kid and Rocky. Folks get into it. I'm telling you, it's legitimate. So that leads
us to number seven of seven,
seven of seven. Okay, so here's what a new variable would you say? Yeah, the new guy. This is photo seven of the seven. And we have a loan kid walking down the hall, flanked by these other kids who appear to be mocking him and teasing him and laughing and pointing his heads down kind of dejected. Definitely looks like he's being bullied or at least teased and taunted by these other kids.
Yeah, way to welcome the new kid Geez. young freshmen probably walking down the hall. Now this is Kenny is his name played by Dallas to pretty young we covered him or mentioned him on that cast episode of season four, episode one. Let's begin because he's one of the new people we don't know yet. Yes. And obviously he's gonna have a role in someone's camp. We're not sure yet. But cool that they're bringing new people in and again, if they can bring new people in, we can bring Anthony along. Because he's been strung along for so long. Let's make him a pivotal part of this. But yeah, cool to see the new guy anxious to see where his alliances take him. Will he be Miyagi dough? Eagle Fang recipes, as you said earlier, or Cobra Kai, but it's obvious that he's going to be in some sort of martial arts camp.
Yeah, you can tell that he's a boy who needs something. So is he going to go to the dark side or to the light?
I do not know.
Speaking of you know who I think could be back or, or why not? Who was the guy who bullied Robbie in Sylmar, juvenile hall. Oh, Shan
I kind of thought, because remember, they kind of made a piece at the end, right? And it did or so it looked like. So I'm wondering if Shawn will be in season four. Because if we're bringing in these new characters, yeah. Why not have some other people come from other seasons, especially somebody like Sean, who seemed to have sort of a reconciliation with Robbie at the end of the tenure in Sylmar?
I know snitch. Yeah,
there you go. There you go. Yeah, I like that. I like that. So what happens we'll see. We'll see if Shawn comes back. And now we welcome Kenny
Yeah. So that's it. That is the first look photos, just a little snippet. I'm sure there are more trailers and things coming. Because it's, you know, it's coming fast, man. We're November now and then all sudden we're going to look up the holidays will be here. And then boom.
It's still slated first still slated for December 31. Thanks for now, we'll see. Jason seems to think they could just flip the script and do Thanksgiving bone. I think maybe they could flip the script and do two weeks earlier, which is what the 14th I think Sunday 17th. Okay, so I still got my fingers crossed for the 17th. Jason has his fingers crossed for Thanksgiving. And we'll see. We'll see if it's December 31. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Do I prefer that?
I'm cool with it. And yeah, I should say I'm not sitting here saying it's gonna happen. We were just talking about what ifs and my what if scenario was Thanksgiving, just like joke. If that happened, I'd fall out of my chair.
How about this, Jason? Something we haven't considered? Okay. We think about them moving the date forward. What if they?
That's a smart move. Move it back.
Yeah. What if they're like, oh, we need to delay. And wouldn't that just make us hungrier? Yes. Oh, my God. Wouldn't we be like, Ah, right. We'd be reaching. You know,
please. I don't think that's how you appease your fan base.
But you know what, they mess with our hands.
If we move the date back two months,
I mean, just like a week or two like a week I don't think they're ever
going to do that. But I couldn't see them mixing it up like a It's Oh, you know what, we haven't said this. We have not said this. They could do Christmas. Now what was the date that rocky fought Drago
the parallels hold times.
Wow. I'm having my mind blown tonight. I really
don't know. But I'm just saying like, I wouldn't be shocked if they mix it up. But what would that be? Oh, Thanksgiving is a bit aggressive. That's so far off. It's so early that I probably not. But you know, we're having fun but
Okay, hang on. Jason. One more thing. Since we're this. Since we're walking down this road. What if they don't drop all the episodes at once instead? Drama? Just like one old school? Yes. Cool. Yes. Hulu does
this. Yeah. HBO does this. Yeah. Yeah. And you
know what? I don't hate on that. I don't for one thing for us. It's wonderful. It's great for us. Yeah, we'd have plenty of time. Hey, listen, folks. We're just trying to consider possibilities and variables. Yeah. Especially dealing with the trifecta. The show runners. Yeah, they're messing with our heads, which we love. They're always surprising us, which is what we love. But hey, we're trying to cut them off at the pass here. Hey, what are you what what are you guys considering here?
They're making me get out of my comfort zone sound because I always under promise over deliver. And I went on record a night and vowed to see Mike Barnes. That's not me. These guys copy, go go in and get my own self like, Wait a second. No. I'm like, I just have a feeling that they've got me second guessing things like yeah, knowing these guys will probably do some things like this. Or there's probably some other secrets in store. Like Anthony they put this photo out there. They didn't have to do that. They could have shocked us with dropping Anthony whatever that episode Zen and we all have been floored. Right, like, hold on. Well, that's another thing. That's really him. Because some shows take characters away and replace them with other characters. Right?
Why would you say that? You say a new actor playing the same character, the same character?
Actor? Yes. So I could see them doing that. Like all the sudden, Anthony is someone else? And we'd be like, Oh, okay, right. But when we see Griffin, if we hadn't seen this photo, we would have been shocked at him and they replace him. Who's this guy? Yeah. But we know better because we kind of followed him. We spoke to him. I looked him up was like I even said to him, Well, you're really going through a growth spurt. Yeah, he's continued that Grossberg because we spoke a year ago. So I would have been floored had they just been like, Oh, hey, Anthony coming in. Let's have a talk. And then he comes in the room and you're like, what? What's happening? But yeah, they've actually let us behind the curtain a little bit. And I kind of give them credit there. I mean, they didn't have to tell us Terry Silver's coming back, but they did. But they they pull some curveballs though. Ollie was like, Nah, no, no, no, no. Boom. So I'm expecting a couple booms. Right. I didn't know Chosun was coming back. I didn't know Kumiko was coming back. So I just think they're holding some things
back. Yeah, yeah. They're not gonna what show their cards. What's it called? Now?
Not all their cards are going to keep some close to the vest. And there's some in there. I mean, listen, Julie, played by Hilary Swank. She showed up as shocked as I would be. I would also say yep, of course. Right. Because we're expecting the unexpected. Yeah, and that's a
good guy. No teas. We've got no teas of mine. Oh, no. No teas, no of jewel
none. Now I know the life span of this show is going to go more seasons. So at the same time, they kind of have to like pace themselves, right? I mean, last season we got a lot. That was a big Phil. Yeah, we had Elisabeth Shue we had closure to her storyline. She might even be in episode one because if you listen to our cast episode she's on IMDb for Episode One. Sound. I think it could be a flashback when I'm sure there's so many things speculating. We've never had this much behind this lead into season four. Like we talked about this every episode we do every season we tackle. It's like, oh, yeah, they get longer. There's more stuff. You're just piling on all the old stuff. You got the movies and every new episode. It's like, oh, this happened. Gotta bring that on. Yeah, so it's incredible. Who knew? Who knew we were going down this path now? Yeah,
no, that's absolutely right. Jason the well gets deeper. Yeah, yes. episode by episode season by season. Yeah.
So wonderful. Look at these photos. And I'm looking for more fun things to drop. As we went our appetite for season four.
Yeah, appetite thirst. I'm ready. You are ready. Yeah, I wish we could get the advanced copies I think that would uh, that's all
we're missing. So yeah, seem to be on set have our own notes.
I would like to be podcasting live from set that would make sense.
Yeah. Behind the Glass thing. So we could just be talking and not interrupt them. So that's all I got, man. Great episode. A lot of fun. Yeah. And a lot more in store.
Yeah. lots to look forward to lots of excitement. And it's only going to build I believe in the snowball effect. And as we approach the date, oh boy, it's gonna get more exciting.
And speaking of snowball effect, we do have some great stuff happening on our other shows.
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