DHC Board of Commissioners - missing first 5 minutes

2:07PM Jun 26, 2025

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items with the resolution,

starting with 33 okay, we have a priority Financial Officer, Eva Joseph. I'm presenting this resolution 368, for your approval, this resolution requests authorization to write off the tenants about receivable related to vacated tenants, which is estimated at approximately a million, while the actual spreadsheet was still listing, will be presented at the July 4, next board. EG, we're asking for approval today so that write off can be posted in the month of June. Typically, our party write up process will report in the month of July when approved. However, upon approval of this resolution, write off would be reflected this course authority cleanup of our books for the crisis, our finance er team joined, first in collaboration with compliance team, Sheree and ID and mtK, has been reviewing and gathering documentation to support this cleanup project. AR cleanup project, these amounts have been sitting for some time under our laptops, but with proper documentation phase, we are ready to implement these data to all five books. This is not going to hit our PNL profit across just the cleaning of the balance sheet once bringing not these balances will no longer appear on DHC financial statements, on the attendance again, the balance sheet and power, with that said, DHC will continue to pursue election by sending these balances over to our election fees Before part of interaction. So I request this board to approve this resolution. Thank you. Thank you for that. Any how should we have the resolution 3308,

right off the tenant, accounts receivable.

So a motion to approve resolution 330,

three. It's been properly moved and seconded that we approve resolution 3308, right off of tenant house receivable. Is there? Are there any questions?

So I think this is since I've been here, the first time that we had a resolution for AR right demo. Don't have a backup. Can you tell me about that?

So currently this up a project, project manager jet working, as you see, in collaboration with all the principal department. And we do have backup, per se, but it's still being worked. So we have it in exam, and we're working with finance to go in and put it out in your system. So typically, your report comes directly from finance, and they're still under review, so they have to take our work review it, make sure that you know their numbers include our numbers. And so that's still in process meeting. What we're asking today is me to propose that right up when approved in July to be posted into June financials. So we've asked for this because right now we're on Excel, right? They're not going to pull this book until we can't run, you know, report out of the general budget and see where we at, right? And so now it's just excel to excel. And so this will allow us to truly see the impact of the work that's been done. And this is the low hanging program now vacated. Attendance, 2017 18. It's a math of cleanup work, right? And so when she says no, P L impact, P and L impact has occurred over the last five, yeah, five years. And so having, you know, the funding from the city of Detroit, Arthur, agility, the Snyder, working closely, bringing in resources to help us jump start this and again, realm team has been phenomenal continental finance. One thing down here with Joanne ash and Sheree and others, we've been trying to just make sure we can get in front of it, and then we can look at the 630 downs that's going to come out at the end of the month. Then we can clearly see what has hit the books right now, just coming out. So this is just kind of a reverse engineering saying that we have pre approval. We know the number right now, if you're looking for $895,000 but also, you know, you have constant changes going on within the property management. So again, these are old. A lot of these are old. And every month we're coming, you know, teams coming, saying, hold it. Relate. We're writing this off. 50,000 COVID related, right? And the question say, why can't we write all of this off? So we, you know, we were surprised to see a lot of the old data in there, but, you know, it's a lot of just couldn't afford.

Sir, what is the Do you have a we have a topology of the kind of receivables that we have in here that fall under this brilliant they are truly two years

old. The tenant doesn't have here anymore. Tenant doesn't live anymore. They are greater than two years old, and they have really, really odd balances. So it's just they still go to collections, yes, but these are all receivables being picked up on impact of tenants. So these are the vacated tenants. Is corporate hygiene, quite honest with you, we did sample some of the files. We looked at them and we saw the move out. Packet paper was there, and this is why shark has been leading the charge of getting us from paper to the cloud and all of this new Yardi and key report goals. That's the thing, and we're working on that shark, and we've had several meetings with Yardi over the last two years, and now we're there. Implementation is there for various departments, so that we can move from paper to the cloud and be more effective and efficient. That's what's done sustained going forward, not only with the research, but also with, you know, these same items. So we're really looking forward to this, having that true ERP system, and not having the mail email. We didn't get it, so we saw it in the patent on the file. When we sampled. We get our sample. Few months ago, why they didn't give, or what happened if we lost so we do have a nice way. Right now. We used to be reutilizing SharePoint, but in the future, all of this should be hard to do an incident, of course, again, working. We already venture explains a lot of modules. It's going to invest in a lot of 19. So it's prevent this corporate so

you said tenants no longer present. They're at least two years old.

Mostly vacated the property.

So I guess my doubt on this is I don't like that. We don't have the criteria, the resolution, I get that. And the reason we're seeing this, and say, back to the reason today, is because, at the end of the fiscal book, what

we're seeing is today that is a driver, definitely a significant driver, but also some part of the corporate hygiene efforts that we're trying to do, and also we're trying to really hone in on, you know, what is our true balances out there? Who are the truth teams that we need to assist because more good things are coming down the pipeline. How do we assess individuals? You know, we remove a million, as you can see, we still have 1.3 million left. As of 530 we're on phase 40 now. And so we want to just clean up the noise out, and then get to the true balance we've done, you know, what was preventing the lieutenant from, you know, paying the rent. And we offer some incentive to join rent cafe. All of that. We have a plan in motion. We will be able to present that back to the board next month. We have internal timelines, and we're going to meet as a group in July internal meeting, but we'll collaborate come up with a nice design command. This is again corporate hygiene cleanup of people who have at least moved out to what happens

two years old. That makes sense to me. In the absence of the data we totally see on these write downs. My preference would be to amend this resolution to say authorizing the write off on the AR for those receivables that meet those two criteria, I'm very comfortable with the tenant is vacated, the units or residents or DHC and nursing business that that bill is not collected. So I'm fine with that criteria by saying up to a million dollars. Since we've motioned for the resolution, should we vote this down and then take another vote to amend the resolution and then keep that up

again? Or could we simply, just, could there simply be a motion to amend that view that be approved, and then it would certainly would carry the motion.

You can accept it as friendly and

your existing so I want to make sure that's

everybody else has questions first.

So make sense, right?

As we move forward, I would hope that we're going to go back to the traditional way of stuff, and if the intention to ensure that you're clicking up the books by year end, we are such that we won't see this in July. Will going forward, this will be an outstanding agenda item. It runs itself into absolutely and ideally what should be happening. This should be going on monthly, this process that we're doing on a monthly basis, so it should not be a big deal going forward. This is just a major pilot project trying to execute it. We're working against the gun, against everything else we're trying to do, but again, to make sure we're clean up and our calculations as a 630 really, truly reflect what I truly see. Right? You shouldn't have this going forward, right? And then, the way this resolution is written, it says receivables of an estimated a million dollars.

Are we saying up to a million dollars?

Or is there because it says estimated, if it's 1,000,002 it's still going to be so our I just want to make sure I understand our formula requirements. Right now, it's about 895 right? And so it's time to set up to social policy, up to and then we also know that the sites are doing, putting up in move outs as well, properly. And so we just added that little book in there. Just didn't want to come up with exactly, yeah, 899 went down. 894 was constantly doing, you know,

but the system is, is allowed states, because we've been seeing quarterly write offs.

So the process, so here's this, the process should definitely be a project. I think it brought a lot of awareness to all team members, the cleanup is there, and it should, actually shouldn't. It's because now they're working on live, active tenants, right? And what's going on without that? Population managers are having conversations with those who have extended

fell out of payment

organizations to kind of get them into a payment plan so it's receivable balance should go down to classes, which is what HUD Expert the team understood all of that as

well. So ideally, the process,

even that's collaborative across the organization. It's not just finance. It's not just, you know, it's everybody taking making sure things go for the P is not being technology. So we do have module, and everybody working on it,

this

is massive, and they're down

right away. I So is

there anything that you're missing from us? So like it would be great to go as we're doing all this corporate you guys are working crazy hours to fix things from a past that we go to best practice. Are we doing the best practice? Are we going to

better than before? We want the best practice so you can the first thing you did was approve that tax

budget. Budget. Shark had a

second launchers that you often learn he has had invested a lifetime with the directors. I have been on several clubs, and I really want to thank them, including General Council, who listen, provide impact. So we can build a system to make it work, right? We gotta have the group, organization we're not sustaining beyond the existing people here. We'll go like that. So we have good hope, because we have a vested leadership team for joining the halls where you maintain Sam to join the cause, giving the information to Shari and yarning. We have the facility online as we go into this so incident reports, process improvement for Raptor, how we going to onboard individuals? Paper to the crowd. In addition to that, support can hopefully help us. It's just a continuous support that you have making sure we get the right places for funding to do that. So more to talk. Next board meeting, again, we're going to roll out

what we call a process. This

is what we're working on. So we're first playing in the data and open the pipeline. That's great ideas that we pretty much

have, hiring off equipment the last

few years. How can we engage our residents? Do have a guardian that that's not get us to the next level where we can

have our most of our tenants, so we have next support processes in place to support all of that. So works, but stuff helps you.

Stuff

helps.

No other questions, comments.

All right, so let me offer a friendly I'm going to

say in the language, because we want those language of the recommendations to say, DHC recommends the adoption of Resolution Number 3308, which authorized his office. James over Jemison, Executive Director of during Housing Commission, DHC versus each write off tenant accounts receivable in an amount up to $1 million incurred through grade 2025, following. 25 following

characteristics, one,

two, the tenant responsible is no longer a Detroit Housing Commission recipe. Further I'd

like to put in here one time resolution and deviation.

So there's Richard Hosey. We have people just

about on

average,

you said, deviation from

policy or from,

I can't answer that. What I've observed is that the finance pass first give you a list, and then you allow them right up. Okay, I'm fine. I just say

it's easy based on the language below. On a quarterly basis, we'll write off sugar balance.

All right, so let me, let me make sure that right revolution 3308, the Board of Commissioners for the trade Housing Commission authorized James Parker Jefferson as Executive Director, or his assigned me to write off the tenant accounts receivable, up to a million dollars incurred through June 30, 2025, with the following characteristics, the receivable must be at least a year a year old and a tenant no longer a year old from 630 2020, enrolled from 630 2025, and the tenant no longer is a women in a Detroit Housing Commission. And this is a one time resolution and a deviation from policy. Does that all right? So you made the original motion. You're making a friendly amendment. This one, okay, so it is been moved and seconded. That resolution will that be approved? Resolution 3308, authorizing James Arthur Johnson as executive director is assigned to write off the tenant of house receivable up to a million dollars, occurring through June 30, 2025, of the following characteristics that the accounts receivable is at least a year old from 630 2025, the tenant no longer is a resident of a Detroit Housing Commission. This being a one time resolution, and that this is the DHCP policy. Are there? Is there any further discussion or questions, seeing none all those in favor, any opposed motion so carried, recognizing that Commissioner, President Richard cozy, has entered the room, and so I will turn over The Invisible gallon to you.

Thank you very much. Excuse. You very much.

So our next item is resolution 309 approval. Business.

Out due to the recurring requests and frequent floor resolutions, conversations that we had at last board meetings about coming to the board in terms of time extensions, any contract related work, wanted to try to increase that and notate it in the procurement box. We're asking for the request to change the language to include that, I'm sorry, the DHC Board of Commissioners approved is not required for the extension of any previously approved annual existing contract. When the extension shall not extend the contract. Will turn rather by more than 90 calendar days. Obviously, we had that discussion prior to a couple months back, so we thought we may go make that change. We also want to not say even though your resolution, we will also notate it in the informational items. So you always get over on the day to day operation. The second item that we want to change, I've notated and changed, and I saw in procurement policy, it actually states and sanctions six

solicitation, there's

things that a minimum of 10 gives the days to generally be allowed for the preparation and submission of COVID. That's too short of a time frame. If it takes about 10 days just to do the actual advertising that needs to not take for the chemical rules. So I thought it was in the best interest of the upgrade and change that amount up to 25 days to get that solid month to do that whole solicitation process. So it kind of gives the best competitive, you know, nature, for the competitive goals.

So asking for that request

as well. Second

question, sorry,

so I haven't run through your entire procurement policy, but just two questions, wondering how we got here. Are there many contracts that you have that are going past the 90 day? Yeah, so in previous board meetings, we're doing that corporate hygiene and cleaning of a lot of contracts, and balance, of course, we have a lot of new staff, and as we're trying to finish those contracts, those contracts have needed time extensions, which requires to keep coming to the board. So we had a conversation a couple months ago with the board members, maybe we can just make that change.

You'll still know taking information. Is it because the the ones you contracted with are not doing the requisite job that it's being asked so or is it just are we not

doing once we realized what the contract entailed, the scope work maybe need to be altered, which, in the turn, needed the extension of time. So we just thought maybe that 90 day would make that kind of sufficient going forward. Do you have a solution that you would,

you know, encounter 20 days

or, oh, yeah, generally, I think 90 days will cover if it goes beyond 90 days, we'll come to you all with the resolution officially. But we think 90 days keep the day to day operation going that way. We don't have to rely on resolutions, but we still, I don't

have problems. I'm glad I talked about the lack of competitiveness in our bids. We're just not getting enough responses. So you know that maybe we'll find out this helps with that. I hope it will. I think I would. Though at some point was caught in the next year after this is set a little bit, I would like to see a report or maybe a brief presentation from you. Trailing 12, trailing 24 what are the Gotham responses? Like, are we moving the needle? Like, competitiveness? Are we getting multiple bids? And I just like, it's hard to that's an important thing for us, right? Some traction costs so heavily and they individually, it's very difficult to know how out of source are we like? Should we be getting more visit? We not? We Nice? Know what that trend looked like, if any of these changes to the procurement helped drive that competitiveness or not? So that next year, I would like to zoom out and say we've let 80 contracts this year versus 80 the previous year. And so many responses that we have, like, some of the things we did, they didn't, I don't know. I just like, that's an important thing for us to understand. I want

to go back to the extension. So totally support pushing down authority to the business line. My question is, with this change in policy, it was about giving you all the ability to extend contracts 90 days. That's a standard loan. If there are other changes within the contract beyond the 10% increase those things. So that means the extension, along with other changes, will come to

consider it's just so the time, and that's only if it's under that

we already ran into 10% right?

Advanced world process is more about the current policy, as I saw a repair or a roof contract.

Do you guys give us sections for emergency issues

in California chair? So that allows us, if there's an emergency, for us to declare an emergency. Bypass allows, throughout the RP processing, proper sign offs when we get the job done, we usually use the good vendors that we know, good partners that would get the job done going forward. Now, what happened past was the passing of people, most of us, guy were, and so there was, like, we always done. We, like, in 2021 22 I believe that gentleman, he's done a great job, Mister Michael Edwards, of really holding tasks to a lot of those men who's imposing things, working with legal bills, insurance involved. So we still have a lot of still have a little bit, I think now corporate High School is not 90% anymore. We're working still not about 25% trying to close out things, and holding both the past and working on a legal department.

I guess you may have half a dozen those a year or something. Sometimes it's more,

it's a lot because of the end of our building.

And that's what Brady is so important that you asked us for in 2023 so we have one every

month. Probably just remember the big

ones. Yeah, we have, yeah, the big ones. We still have a lot of small ones that may not come to this board, you know, less than 50. You know, to

the village. It really

should definitely,

for example,

that water main thread or

I post air conditioner go down. Fire suppression. Fire suppression, but, but definitely, winter. Burners

go out. I mean,

maybe in the past, the buildings get upgraded, then you go into but we're just dealing now with age. Maintenance is definitely there with our partners. I hard

second change. Is it kind of the metrics that has thrown it off because you felt like 30 days would be more appropriate? Isn't it? It just looks like you're taking 30 days, even though the policy says 10. I mean, the language is little, then impartial. All set current language,

necessarily. I'm a deferred permit, so they're late, and they got it done right from that day. The contract and why you gotta wait for the city to come in and see them really respond to doing really great. They've been really great partners. But then they got to go back and take the permit. And so we, you know, Michael really tasked them and said, You got five things, right? So, but he's allowing himself time because things happen, you know, inspector come out and some got the exchange so that 30 days is more planned. So it's not really to drive positive reporting is to to respond to real life situations.

Record if the language is minimum, as if it said a maximum of 10 days, I get it right. Today may not be enough, but if it's minimum 10 business days, does that mean that you can exceed 10 easily? Was this, this session of the policies kind of relates to the solicitation process, right? So we put out the via Monday. This is saying the minimum. Obviously we can put it on Monday, and 10 days later, the beers are due to me, and my experience is not really realistic. You need to have at least a solid month of solicitation.

You need at least two weeks just to

advertise itself. If someone says you have a minimum, then that means you can take

40 Yes, that's correct, but I said Colleen is bringing this more in line with what HUD requirements are to begin with, and so by enforcing this minimum of 30 days, it still falls in line with bringing the our current policy in line with what our HUD requirements are. So by changing the minimums, you're not wrong. So we want to make this 30 days as a minimum, or 25

right? So, sorry, 25 and so, but, but that then is, are there things that five days, 10 days, will be more than enough, and therefore we have to sit there and wait for for 25 days, because now we've increased the policy that's a minimum. So 25 national beginning policy in that exact session. It actually speaks to in the case of any emergencies or anything that's that's needed, Executive Director has the right to say, hey, right? We can do at a smaller time, right? So we can always lower that. Yeah, I generally speak for the solicitation process, right? But then you kind of caught an emergency, but so, so I just didn't understand the increase in a minimum, because you already have a freedom to be secret and so, so, but now you don't have a freedom to go below, right, something that says, All right, it's been two weeks. I got tons of bids, but I can't do anything for 11, another 15 day my ride, and then this station, postal speaks to it's only fine to those that's 20,000 or more that we know for the cost. So you can have something that's a fear that's lower than that amount, and then we, you know, we can have that shortened time. Yeah, I just didn't understand the account, the hand covering yourself into being forced to sit, even if you don't have me, because this language isn't required to to the to my thought process was just given that you're the time frame for the outreach, you know, so nobody could go in and just say, Hey, we're going to do the policies,

right?

Yes, but you're changing a minimum, right? So you're

saying the

second, yeah, so we're set. We're settling the extension. So the extension

didn't

understand why you said we have to wait 25 days, if you have to wait 10 days, if you have to take at least 10 days to prepare a submission, was still bid. Then you can endure determination and say, This is really important. This still bid will not say 10 days. It's going to say 30 days, gonna say 60 days, gonna say 90 days. It's just that our current policy says you have to give people at least 10 days to prepare a sealed bid, but you have the right to give them 128 now you're you're just going to say you have to give people at least 25 days to prepare a sealed bid, and so, but you could've did that under your current policy. You could've gave everybody 25 days if you wanted to. And this is not, maybe, are you saying? I'm not. This is not a change for for the future department to prepare and set the solicitation. Oh, we need at least 20. I'm assuming that, with our bids right now, go out and they say you have 10 days to prepare and submit this bill, but this policy says that that's the minimum that you could put over but you could send a package that says you have 60 days To prepare. You would not be violating our current policy. But if there was something that was not an emergency, but you needed very quickly, and you thought, okay, they don't need 25 days to prepare this bid and submit it, then you still have to now give them 25 days per this before. You only have to give them 10 days. You might have said, Oh, 14 days is going to be good enough. 20 days is going to be good up because, you know, I got five contractors on site, you know, and and all five of them want to do it. It's going to work, but we should get this work done faster. You're, you're handcuffing yourself. Uh, again, it was based off of that. Over that 250 threshold, I noticed a solicitor. That's a solicitation, steps that you gotta take, right? Yeah, first gotta advertise. That's, that's two weeks. You know, immediately the last two weeks, that's your 10 business days. Then we have, you have to come in together, pre proposal or pre, sorry, and we got a question deadline, but are you currently have the power to put down 60 days and you would not be

Violent policy on a submission?

Yeah, that's not how.

So tell me about investing. If our certain value that you could give people 90

days. You're correct. You're correct. I think what Colleen point and correct me if I'm wrong is it takes a minimum of 25 days to get something out on the street and get bids back anyways, and so that is what the new minimum he wants to set here, because it takes two weeks to advertise, plus you have to do the pre proposal, plus you have answers to questions for the addendum. So extending in an additional 15 days isn't going to cost us much for those contracts that are in excess of $250,000

because we're already doing it anyway.

But I can see your point where after 10 days, you still have the ability to pull the trigger. However, we're still going to have to come to the board for approval regardless. So it's going to take a month plus or minus 30 days to get the bids ready to come to the board, because this is, like he said, specifically only for items in excess of $250,000 so he was just trying to change the minimum from 10 to 25 what we're just saying is you don't need to do that. Correct? Everyone. Was you wanted, and all of that, but it doesn't matter, because it's already a minimum.

If you guys just wanted this, for some reason, that's why I was worried, like you were measuring saying, Hey, you say you give people 30 days and you only have young 10. If it was a metric of some sort, you know, I would hope that at some point we become super dynamic. We got a ton of contractors, you know, we put down a million dollars and we say, Oh, we only need two weeks, because everybody is already ready to bid this thing, and we wouldn't be sitting there for 15 extra days depending on kind of what's going on, right? And so, as I, you know, I picture scenarios where we have people already on site and and they they're ready to submit a bid and be everyone, or we got so much work going on across the portfolio that we're able to move quickly, and now we're saving team.

I'm totally with you on nothing there is. There's no necessity for the change within the minimum date. And then, if I'm reading this right, giving pushing down authority to the team for the 90 days or extension does not require commissioners approval. That means that resolution 3309, is now bullying, right? And what needs to happen, since we made a motion to approve it, do we deny it? What do we do? I think, I think you can again make a friendly amendment to the motion to only approve the extension versus both. So Madam, GC, it said that approval is not, oh, you sure you have sufficient approval is not required for the extension of any previously, okay? I thought that meant this didn't require our proposal. Who was the maker of the motion? I

think it may have been me.

So

I would like to amend the motion to approve resolution 3309, to give the procurement to modify the procurement policy and the approval of them to exercise extensions up to 90 days only, support,

if there's something that makes it where it's helpful and say, contractors ourselves. We're not giving them, we're giving them too long and all this changes. I just don't

want you to

thank you. Next resolution is revolution 3310.

Approval to execute change order number three for additional funding to contract number 4027, with Michigan consulting environmental ongoing environmental services.

Provided seven and environmental

services as

know, we are coming down again with the remaining basis of the environmental work, positioning consultants, as well as equal we actually had Bay processing. They came up as needed for booster homes. And they quoted us in $1 $100,580 in that we want to just come to the board the best interest to ask for 500,000 just to safeguard any future officers from that, and then just going

from there, just to add once he was working with the chemical team, so questions Mars, so they did the soil testing, and we're happy that before they did soil testing, the whole site was supposed to be immediately different, right? Working with MC, working with Egle, through testing and taking it into smaller sections, most of that site is green. Now, no further remediation. They still have small amount that they're testing. They just completed it, and that's part of the previous 250 when they did that testing, they had to ask for another 250 because we needed to remediate the playground. And start Monday, we're going to release the notice to proceed today. I believe the kids are choosing the colors, and you know what they want the playground to look like through a small paper with lessons learned on Hey, just know testing will be about 250 plus. You know the additional 180 8000 quote did not include the lab results. And that's what's important. So just paper testing, they have to do it semi they try to work with Eagle to send Kelly, sorry, let me change that.

They have to do it for it. They're asking.

So this 500,000 is once we do the initial testing. It's about 280 samples they have to take. They're going to two labs, otherwise it will take too long to get the results. We try and wrap the protomiscote up by the end of August, so that we can get a full remediation claim, that we can go right into the grant process, applications and all that, so that we can make, hopefully there's any type of remediation we can do it so that they protect and they can hold them basement. So we're at that pace, which is good. But the greatest thing is that what we've done so far with the soil testing is that multi site is now, you know, there's still a small segment that's still, you know, putting on the lab results, and that's what's chopping up the money. So we didn't have an estimated budget, because we did cleaning up something from 2000 to 17 and before OIG report on testing, and the mayor was really happy about how far we've gotten thus far. So the next final phase will be this paper testing. You know, the test go right down, and definitely thanks, and hopefully everything comes out okay, but we just want to have the tendency to be able to go up to a half one step, doing 250 and then 250 again.

All right, thank you. Traditional order. Call foreclosed. So

this million 250

includes repeating 250

I don't think 50 to 60, not really sure, because they use the two labs, right? And we're trying to get the information back, so we don't have a call on that, pull on the work they they can do that, contractors, right? Can do this well, right? We don't have the lab part. So as of today, we don't have the lab part, so it may go over 250 right? You know. So we got, like, roughly $70,000 and I don't know, you know. So we just want to make sure that it could have remediation. And I don't have both, but it remediation, you know, usually

what I just want to make sure. So what I'm gonna do is I'm sitting here every deal I've received from my practice stuff. I just always make sure that we are as close as possible to private. And so just because I've been doing them, a lot of vapor tested and like, and I want to make sure that they're charging same thing as somebody charged me like, right? And so, you know, I don't know I don't know that. It's not because, right, you've got 18 Acres or something,

right, right? Didn't have to do 284

samples, right? And I have the pricing for 100 foreign samples, right? And so I'll send that over just to make sure that the carpet, if there are numbers higher,

that's excellent. And I want to say the relationship now with evil is extremely before they weren't listening and weren't talking

to us. People are moving, and that's why I'm saying people have a great relationship. First

couples coming up, 40,000 was really but they're subcontracting too, because it's just, it's a lot, it's a lot, right? It's a lot, but they're finishing and going outside. They're finishing follow up, working with them, be doing our stuff too, as our certain matter experts. And if it was a lot, you know, she

was, you know, it may be a lot, right,

because of open land and two acres of building, right? So, but it's over the building as I'm going in, right? And so, so, but just to give you that,

just, are we eligible for vacation?

So we looked into that last year. This gentleman is typical time. But a lot of the changes going on, I think the 26th we probably maybe have a chance, but talk to the gentleman for

a while,

maybe 26 right? You know, talk to him. Was too late to 2524 25 they only had selected, right? So the gentleman is really nice. He's really nice, but I had a conversation right now. So the million dollars was right. We definitely think zero,

as far as your resolution looks like, this is the third change order, just for our records, should be it shouldn't be too long. Change over one, two,

absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, change it just for the base contract amount. Again, we didn't know, no. So we just would be hired them in and come in and, do you know, just a basic phase one, phase two, and review the documentation that has been done since 2007 there's a lot of data right now. People's not accepting that because we said it didn't follow the criteria back and forth. Change order two was the geophysical that we went through, meaning that there was a x ray machine that went across, just the homes that I could see was their metals, or different things that deter we did that we have great I'm just making, sorry,

there's so much money environmental

companies like this, growing up every

day, James order two and so he also was going to do the playground with your Sorbonne right within budget, everything's going to be playground So high continent and so ego, you know, the team, everybody did a remediation right away so that that was embedded in that this next one is dealing with just the final phase, and based upon the last chamber of one and two, we just saying that we have up to a half million dollars doesn't mean we're going to give them a contract, unless they're listening. And today they don't know this, right?

We're not in here. Are we changing that price? Right? Absolutely.

So we have a current estimate, because it's 250 right. We know that eagles are now going to require quarterly they ask Eagle, can we go semi annual? Because that's just two more and right?

And you guys aren't doing active monitoring, not right now, no, because that might be cheaper to put a monitor on than to have them drill and drill and

drill. Well, right now work on Eagle. They want us to do this test this. Okay, so this is what Eagle, you know, they've been really returning green, right? Look at our map, you know. So which is good. So we just trying to keep moving right, right. And so any changes or updates, we definitely will come back. You'll have stuff that probably to talk about a little bit, but not a lot, honestly.

And so compared to the original thought that we had to tear up, everybody's basically put an active vapor mitigation system in, and it would be cheaper to tear down their housing than rebuild, then I get that we are way below it our initial cost, but now that we've accepted that and we learned that, let's just still always make sure that we're saving the people that are treating us like a large market development Absolutely,

absolutely, all that's Just a couple sentences. Say how we got absolutely. I Well, absolutely,

well, that's interesting.

All right, we any other questions, comments,

all in favor.

Thank you. Resolution 3310, is approved. Next we have resolution 3311, approval to execute section 18, disposition of 14 vacant scattered sites.

Morning, Greg William, the real estate development department represents our resolution committee 311, which is the approval to execute a second to this position 14, Lincoln scatter site properties. This resolution is predicated by previously approved PHA five year plan, 4.4 and board approved asset repositioning plan, which outlined our intentional wish into our ways with our status portfolio over time, and we have been taking steps to perform a series of due diligence exercises to understand what that disposition strategy should be, starting with identifying the breakdown and classification of vacant and occupied properties. And so we are present, presenting 14 properties to start an initial disposition action, and that disposition action would ultimately lead to the sale of these 14 properties. 14 properties are listed on the second page of this resolution and comprised of five vacant parcels, so no structures and all and nine parcels with a structure intact on the fire food, but has been greater than 24 months. This meant the next steps would be for us to then submit, to submit a application to the special application office and begin the process, which is around 60 to 90 days, you will see, likely next month, ideally, maybe the month after a resolution seeking approval or DHC to enter into an MOU agreement with dlda to help us with dispositions of Standard Sites properties over time. And so this resolution is ideally the first in a series of resolutions that will be requesting essentially a section 18 disposition of our standard size portfolio as we're able to clear copies and make them ready for sale. Segment. We have also you may have asked like, why are we breaking up into smaller chunks of parcels? It was recommended for us go this route, both by City Attorney exam as well as sac to avoid any encumbrances, whether it be environmental or historic or other, so that we can continue to streamline pay properties as possible at the same time without logging out of success with like one ship overview across Our entire

portfolio, it's anticipated that the sales proceeds

less your closing costs and other expenses, would be similar in the rate of 600,000

and we would be seeking to re contribute those proceeds into future development activities, whether it's gap funding or etc. Any questions support

so yes questions.

Now one you probably you,

but certainly you were involved in we once had a blanket approval from cut and an MOU in place with the dlba to sell them. The language was all of our vacant properties. And so let's first make sure that we dig in and see if that somehow is an ongoing and and

see what that process was. This was

that would have been 2000 sorry to the board. I guess that would have been 2017 I did not know that it was ongoing. I thought it had a one time transaction. But, and also, I would say that the people at the land bank would agree, as we've been working with them on new MOU, right? But absolutely, I will commit to that due diligence and just double check to see if it's something, you know, we once found that we had. That's how the Brewster side, we were like, actually, like, seven years ago. We're just good on the hotline. And so it's and so, you know, just making your life easier to see it, seeing if there's anything that that helps with the with the HUD approval in the kind of the process,

kind of going forward, of whatever was already out there.

Okay, do that?

Am I Is it okay if I have made one of additional comment, which would just be to say that we've been focusing on scattered sites in exactly the manner that Greg's described, this is the sort of easiest part of the transaction for forward to do, because this is shared. These are properties which are over. Have been vacant for over 24 months, which means that, obviously they'll have they don't have tenants in them. They also don't have rental assistance that flows to them the next the next category includes properties that where tenants are involved and where there is rental assistance involved. And so we've been working closely with the rocket foundation on a plan to begin considering how we could dispose those properties and correct it. Let's sell them. When to sell them, first, try to sell them first to our tenants, participants in FSS, the tenants of the units, the participants in FSS and at the flat rent program, and so making those houses available first to people who have been with us for a long time, when we have a chance to achieve homework, should play more details on that going forward in future meetings. But because this is something that wouldn't be able to fall into that policy initiative, this is a initiative to move these 14 out so that we can get capital back for our diploma programs. So I just want to provide that background that everybody

knows no appreciate that, and I'm glad to hear that we're not that we're also looking at ways to create generational wealth, starting with home ownership, you know, as an opportunity, because it is being the lender, the economic stuff works scattered site. It's just, it's hard to manage. It's expensive, so forth. As it pertains to these, these current 14, Bray.

So with these being vacant and vacant for the last 24 months, or at least 24 months, what's the condition of these houses and should they obviously, it doesn't sound like they're on a demo list, or should be on a demo list. And what are we doing as we're thinking about disposing them by way of sales? What are we ensuring that there is also access to money to do renovations for these homebuyers, programs, whether at the city level or others, to help with the renovation costs, because they've been making for two years, that means there's probably some need for opportunity.

Great question. So part of the vetting process was for myself and all we did, a sidewalk on every property, some purchase on every property, assess general condition. A number of the properties actually had some sort of capital project initiated that was at some point in time. So the condition quite a few is actually there are a few that are definitely more substantial renovation. So to your point, as we consider working with the LBA and considering our partnership initiatives and aspirations, we're trying to further break down properties into categories, essentially, properties that will take $60,000 or less to reach a HQ, s standard, general standard that we would feel comfortable presenting them to a low income, low income buyer. And then properties with capital repair needs greater than that 50 to $60,000 range you would be seeking to likely just sell as is, through the traditional the OPA technologies, likely natural low income buyer. So category one, we would be considering buyers, but part of our grant application to rocket, we asked for funding to help subsidize limited capital for rent projects, as well as down payment assistance, and we are working with Denise And team to also identify other opportunities to subsidize capital improvements.

And then I guess the secondary thing, especially as we think, Well, this is not secondary, but to the point of sale. Um, these being DHC. DHC owned properties, and now we're selling to lower moderate income families. How? What mechanism can we, can there be put in place to manage property taxes, right? So it's going to go from zero to, if it is fully assessed that a market rate, it could now, then not make it affordable, right? And that's, I think, cover it toward to what we were trying to do, especially those that don't so I don't know what that process is. I just want us to think about, how do we DPA is great. Renovation cost is great from a grant, but that's the stuff we can the other component of it is the ongoing

obligations that the House

could have. We are actively researching taxes, insurance as some of

the long term costs. So

considering those things, so not to move too much on the field commercial, but that's that's the reason to get it over there, because they've been doing it for so much, but it's why we need, like, they'll have discounted as a Detroit worker or teacher, or a whole lot of different things and programs that They can set up, as well as attaching a a estimated cost to every property that says, Oh, you're bidding on this property. Just know, it's $7,000 to fix this up important card costing and kind of working through that process and working with them hand in hand, so that we can think of all these, these pieces. And you know, when the taxes, particularly, is so hard because that assessment comes up athlete, and so the best we can do is make an adjustment in the upfront price, right? Or say, you know, so for the early you have the ready stuff in the back the area that they knew that they need to sell them at a $30,000 loss to make it something that was that made sense for the buyer, to take those risk coverage and be in there and measuring that and going up front, then you're able to go to rocket fund and say, This is what we need, and to make sure that these people never have a problem. So first we get get it out the way of this is a fully rehab house, potentially program, or making sure that we're much bad to that, but also looking at those long term costs, and so working hand in hand with people going through 10,000 of these and don't have the same attachment to processes is, is the key. But I think it's worthwhile to as we get close to this, have a joint Housing Commission DoD presentation of what exactly we're getting into

an argument. Absolutely, that was exactly my point. So I'm going to move past that, before or after, if we still got quite a bit of an agenda. I guess my last question is more about the net proceeds from the sale. Are those restricted in any way other than to be used for future development? But I can't remember the names of the various buckets. So were there specific restrictions to this?

When the land sales proceeds come back to the agency?

We got a legal opinion about this

years ago. We can basically use it as if it was either operating capital through the public housing program or as public housing capital, so that that does allow us, for example, putting it to a if we wanted to put it into a capital structure that was going to do one of the grad projects we've discussed, position for eligible affordable housing. It gives us pretty wide flexibility that it comes back

in, yes,

now it's still treated as HUD funds, but they're, I think I know where you're where you're going, but we the rules governing these HUD funds are quite broad and different than other conflict funding. So to your point, they're a lot more like the other Douglas

process, 19. Wanting to present the standard site to specific so do

you want to answer? So

we're currently in have made an application to to rocket fund for support for this initiative. We're in dialog with them about the express interest in it. I think we're anticipating meeting some progress milestones in our discussion with them in the next 30 days, I'd expect later than August, we have an update with

it's it's worth also saying that in 2023 There was a larger agency wide positioning proposal that was accepted. So it's basically an extension of that. Happy to share that now that you're joining the board,

I think we're about a

the answer was moved in the answer questions.

So, so any other questions, all in favor. Thank you. Resolution, 3311, is approved. Thanks. We have 3312, approval to execute a contract with Home Depot for roof replacement and DHC warehouse at Tennessee 11 Orleans commission more

board members, Michael Edwards and Chapel Asset skilled labor supervisor recommending the approval in order to grant contract home people for roof replacement at the warehouse located at

2200 Orlando, 2211

200 Yes,

clean up, replace the roof and upgrade the electrical system for $550,000

time frame.

We've identified this work because we've had some additional leakage in the roof that is continuing to cause damage, and we need to get this approved, so don't let the asset fall further. This is going to bring the roof up to date, and also we're going to make it operational and clean out the area so we can utilize it for most account that I also start

pushing forward. So pretty simple questions call

for a question. What's actually stored?

I realized they'll spend significant time. As he said, there's a full gas station there. There's a part of the so anywhere where cars are maintained and approved. And then on the inside, there used to be a warehouse that currently contains a whole series of sort of documents and other materials. But everything is in there, from furnishings, adding materials for rehabs, things like that. The full range of stuff you'd expect to be there is there. Unfortunately, a lot of it is sort of no longer applicable until there's a lot that needs to be done here, but we have secure it first, but we can make it available. And if we had a full construction company, we'd already have to so like the one we've talked to you about, right? So again, for some of us, this is a we, I'm a little bit obsessed with getting this building back in service and getting the work you're planning to do there, but having a secure, a secure warehouse that we can maintain our facilities means we can take them out of the Parkside conference room or the or the sojo conference room. So I'm excited about this. Yeah, it's, a it's a beautiful building. It is, believe it or not, if, in its heyday, it was probably a great facility. Work. It's just gone past this point where we have to get some improvements done in order to utilize again, one of the things I needed for is, when I'm running, of course, accounts have to order material, agency supply. I don't have a place to put it. If I put it in a unit, there's a chance for stolen and everything else. I want to be able to be in the warehouse to make it the maintenance desk. We go pick it up, take it there, do whatever, to check it out, bring it back. That way I can manage material that's going in and out. You can also and so it's a, you know, the it wasn't enough room on the the front page, but this is where else the roof replacement, cleanup and electrical system upgrade. So this building is probably what 30, $40 per feet. I have improved our report in there, which is basically the size of the building. I didn't think, not yet, because it is in the report. But yeah, it's 20,000 square feet. Yes, yeah. So it's so I think it's saying we're 25,000 square foot unusable, usable building. It's a usable field once you want to ride home. Yeah, so there's one riot CO is the part that is the 2211 is where we have our leased housing and rental assistance offices, right, right? So everybody works on the vouchers. You all sit over there. There's a office building, Park, warehouse attached to it. It's just to the south. There, Southwest, right,

touching right. No.

Student,

yeah, that's right,

just to cover ourselves to the reason why I asked that to understand the importance of when there are many public housing units as well. You're talking about spending this much money on this property, right? At least we put in the report and report like live watch this, as opposed to help us get those reviews understood. Yeah, if that makes sense. Make sure we know Facebook said we have any inventory control issues there,

I mean, but it's like consideration as we start thinking about putting what is that process to control?

That's exactly what Calvin is being charged right now. We're trying to buy

in bulk

store it. So these contractors have, actually, they're putting some inventory on the site that they're ready to do it. And so, you know, so we trying to get smarter. But this was, we're now next to the next level, you know. So one question that's a little off from the actual brick and mortar I've heard, you know, old documents, things like that. Do we have a document, a retention policy,

equipment and material that they are included in that so, like, there's a lot that, once it gets curated, we can stop so the assets, if it's secured,

yeah, so we're not really storing anything there. Now, it was historical. We asked Kirsten, and she finally did. Fi any a lot put in there, if the papers are destroyed from the brain and different things that we can deal with them. So it's just really, that's why he included them out as well, making sure we follow so we don't actively store stuff now, but historically, is one of them.

So what are those things? If they're

not destroyed,

they would be sticker

utilized scanning as

well. Yeah, comments,

questions,

favor, thank you. Resolution, 312, two is approved. 3313, approval to execute change order number three for additional funding to track 3085, and vision, the southern LLC for extension of destruction management services.

Okay, and this is basically

piggyback on corporate hygiene, just a company that was contracted with DHC company to get the bids renovated because of the time that we added to the contractors. This is just an update to that to account for the cost of the concussion management right the time. The good news is, as of the end of this month, all of the units are completed. The keys have been turned over, the DHC, and other than a lift that is within days of being here to go into one unit, right? We are completely done with phase one and phase two of the digs. So this, again, is just cleaning up the

construction management time that it took to get this and there won't be any more costs associated with

digs contract.

That's kind of like the Choice Neighborhood hip hop that happened in a cell version where that was renovated. Excellent. When you walk in, everybody was like, Wow, your transition has been extraordinary, just from my own experience, knowing, going door to door and doing inspections with units, the transition, the transformation.

This was

contract that was approved last year, right? And so hold on, Michael came in and really got tough with the contractor and made it happen. This new contract that you just do this year is output, what 2020, or more, like 30 units already. So he exceeded, yeah, other than

some wave materials, obviously, those are the things that have hampered us up, especially off script just a little bit. But you did get 24 units done that stayed there fully ready to go. We are actually around 12 to 13 minutes revenue at certain phase one. The only reason why we haven't finished unless we have front doors that are being replaced and that that will that's starting on Monday, so those units will all be back online starting next week that we're going to approve, and we continue to work through those two buildings and get those done. We are also working on getting

area target units, which is a central unit of State Fair. We're walking to the Home Depot and each emergency supply next week without starting that project. So we are getting the clear modernizations about those units, and we're on track to get 150 107 minutes from the previous resolution that you

guys great.

You said that. Sure, questions, comments, and so basically, supply there give those good pricing and

responsive to

pull off the web and say, I could get this cheaper

here. Actually. Saved one of the light fixtures and shared it. They were listed for $200 HD supply shop. I went to the whole Detroit for $105 right? They matched my price for all flights. So that was a saving success. So I do go through the chat forward there, because that's part of my background. Curt, city managers off of the building, right, correct, Alright, great.

So Mr. President, I said correctly. We did not. You did not entertain a motion to approve resolution 3313, so I will make that motion at this time to approve resolution

support. Thank you. Any questions, comments. All in favor. Resolution 331, degree of approval. Thank you. Thanks. We have resolution 3314, approval to execute change order one for additional funding, about 416,003 8917 of the Home Depot USA for the complete modern innovation of 16 units and sister. Yeah. So this resolution, also, I'm seeking your approval with I Home Depot AC supply are both Omni and contractors. Home Depot has a bigger bandwidth in terms of using repairs on buildings that have or built prior to 78 versus AC supply for more of our apartment style units. So we are coming in for coming in front of you to

get an updated contract to one,

James Van Casey supply depot. Secondly, we are changing. We went back in re scoped units to the what's actual there, versus original scoping. It

includes some necessary items that should have been included. And thirdly, we are adding an additional unit that 15 were approved for 16. It's also just going to be the new number, and it's going to give us the ability to get other good ideas. Back online.

Yes, so some of the things that wasn't previously approved be a lesson learned and pull the board back, is termites, so you have to come back and get change orders for that. So for the most part,

there could be some unforeseen they're not there could be. There's definitely some moisture on these crawl spaces. We can't get into those until we actually get into units. But now, if these units were just okay or just like they're supposed to be, this would actually get the bad.

So of course, can't determine what's not for CDI, but

yes, and then also due to cheer so lesson

there, and now going to share certain things that working with Patrick, that they asked, you know, hey, can You also do these things that also has been trickled into this two and drive new changes like update them. So people, you know, buy a new clients, the plug might need to go down from, you know, two inches versus up to the report, they'll serve certain things like that. So a lot of this is included all the lessons learned from the last one that stay there as well. To share. Go back and call back and say, hey. So all of that now has been added, so this should be more of a replica of what it should be, unless there's a receipt.

Yes, this is going to actually, even though I still ask for the amount of time that I did, we don't have because of the location of the properties, you don't have the ability to go one after another, after another, right? So you actually have to go and phases,

you know, one goes into one and it goes to the next one. So you can't operate it. Like, it's just a, yeah, something like adoption builder, like, you

know, so there is more time associated with this, but one of the things we want to do is ask for getting done with them. We turn over to finish, you know, yeah, that's fine. So how bad are these shoes when I see more than $100,000 these town homes, apartments? Feels good. Some that have draw spaces.

Like, yeah, everything's down to

the study room, essentially, yes. So this is compared to producing new housing, right and the same stuff, yeah,

to bring on board affordable,

yeah, but I mean for the total cost,

then

certainly This has to be done, right? It produces housing at a lower cost. How do we keep our housing from needing $100,000

back to leasing and inspection? So the inspection of being done by the room team. Now this is the second term by a third party, just for inspire, but also comprehension as well, going in the

so you should be doing it

twice and kind of understand it, right? So this is where doing it would be helpful, right? And having all this data that says somebody may have left out only $2,000 in rent, but if they did $12,000 in damage, that was the bigger point, right? And so because if they did $100,000 in damage, then yes, who cares about the write off is that? What's happening to these properties? How does that work? From a real estate perspective, that says they pay the rent on time, all the time, and it doesn't matter seven years of operating, you know, value when, when they were campus, and then forgiven.

But our relationship with our kids, right? Is huge. This is okay, yeah, you could toss this person out or do whatever, but we need to not have damage.

So it's not there's probably we see, unfortunately,

first.

But that data says it's better than $4,000 worth of supportive services.

Originally was contracted to use for one point, right? Did they ever start doing any other work? Yeah. So now we're changing the vendor from HD, adding the additional unit, expanding this local work do contract one? Yes.

So full got rehab? Are these units isolated to buildings, sojourners? So it's like the unit here, unit here, unit here, within the various buildings, okay,

all right, and then

what is the broader strategy?

So we have

a so we received careful received more

dollars one

of the sites that's

included combination of issues

that needs to be unique way. We've got ideas from our vendors that we're going to be bringing forward with you informally, but then formally follow me in October. This is the high cost. I mean, this sounds like these are the worst units. I'm trying to get a feel because stop gap measure, and we spend some capital dollars because we have families in need. That's the problem. But if, if we were starting a 4% app right now your department, and then get you prepared to bid out the whole thing the same way, then we can run this into development ourselves, right? So, yes, I think that I want to say, if you say, I understand the good money after that, we weren't in production, but just the taste of it is, we could put a lot of money into sojo immediately and Try to go get 4% that sort of allocates off money to it. I think the likelihood of sojo in the neighborhood condition is getting a full raft of funds required, 979, percent tax credits, books on tax credits, other soft money in enough of a volume of enough time, it's probably gonna have a hard time getting that because where it's located right now, there are ways to solve a problem, and that's what we're spending time trying to figure out. I think you and I actually had a competition about this before last time, ways to bring capital to us, right? But we we've got new sort of money that's giving us a little more optimism. But we have to have it. We have to get in the interim, this is one of our fastest paths to getting

occupancies.

That's the strategy. We're going to end up putting some money in here, get both house, but I think it's going to stabilize the property, increase our occupation, and shortly we'll have a strategy for no that makes sense to me. Just saying, if we're able to, when we have the in house capabilities, officially, development, do the construction, and then we have a department that can officially collect money. To make the money we can burn them in maybe the next earth we wouldn't be able to, right? Yes, you're

that All in favor.

Thank you. Resolutions, 324,

now we have DHC informational items.

Sure. I might just remember the public

waiting. I'm not sure what let's so I would say, let's, let's put the public first, and and unless there's Something that is huge that we need to be you,

things that we I feel like I concurrently,

but

there was A time that we

talked about specifically each week,

right? Whereas, okay, let's talk about how finance works. Let's see where our things are, you know. And let's talk about, you know, so that we really get a deeper understanding of the operation, so that is that much easier as we

read through the information. So on the research. Look at the trend line. Little work out, but maybe I'm wrong. We made dramatic progress, and maybe the last 25% are hard to do. So I think that's maybe after public I'm gonna ask that question. That's a story that you had in here, like, just very nice see that. Congratulations. I think that's awesome. I am very concerned to get what you're headed we are probably going to see a pretty significant contraction on SNAP. We are not in the snap business, but I suspect we have a lot of residents who are highly reliant on SNAP. I do not know. So we have insight through resident certification or something, if we had any kind of sense, there's any way to get how many residents it would be useful to the whole Detroit community is going to get their heads around

that is very scary.

Residents,

seniors, in particular, children for food assistance. So I'm not, I don't know that we can solve, but I think collectively, the sort of human service world in Detroit, but we are an important feedback, a little bit input for them on delivery, but that that is going to happen and happen quickly, right? And I mean, it is, you know, it's like,

okay, is

on staff. They're like, okay, I can pay my rent market because of my groceries this week. This can become a broad problem throughout our most of our time. Families,

they do not participate in our food program

available for them. That's because they are on SNAP.

We do have a strong furniture

in the summer,

so they prepare much breakfast

and lunch. I use simple it going forward, yeah, the existing systems get swamped, right? It's just, I mean, Gleaners is going to be empty shelves, and we're better off being there before, right, instead of trying to catch up and, you know, even notify, right? So ideally, they, they know, and they're watching. You know, when back with when the state did it, and just kind of made everything retroactive. They those people found out when the money didn't come. And so, right, exactly. So letting people know upfront, preparing and say, Hey, we may not pay you advantage of this today, but we want you to know this is available and coming in the future.

Yeah, it's hard. I want to create a panic. Got it back in the bill two days ago, at least at 15% I think it's going to be large for the state's diversity nations here. But I just they do a bunch of everything. Yes, like, I don't want our residents, I don't create panic, and I want our residents to be surprised, because they're having to live their lives here is going to have to figure out a way to react in that statement, they can reach out to better communication. Yeah, okay, that's all, that's all, that's all I had. I'd like to jump. So did I? Did I do updates? Yeah,

okay, yeah, um, any comments, questions, anything that we like, hey, this was the information I needed in the departmental model, course, but it something that that we need? All in favor? Great, silly. All right, so then we'll jump straight into general I

think this recording has been played.

So do this

before you play it. There was one item that it did want to cover you.

So our community center facilities at Parkside, I wanted members of the board to know that last month, rather, let me tell it the entire narrative. So our Community Center at at Parkside not only contains a community meeting room, but it also contains about six rooms that are currently used by the friends of Parkside or work. Until recently, friends of Parkside, it was a whole release from our acquisition of the LLC that gave us full and complete ownership of Parkside so we could go forward with our redevelopment efforts there, that month to month, lease continued from the our acquisition all the way through, all the way through last month. And what I wanted to share with you about that was in late 2024 members of the community at Parkside approached the Housing Commission about holding a residential election. We have been with the work of our resident services department, seeking to create resident councils in every public housing development so that we can have a resident voice, especially as we are beginning to consider more aggressive rehabilitation of our properties.

Resident Council.

The folks asked and advocated for resident Council, and they asked for a proper election to be held, which has independent supervision, and they asked for the HUD handbook to be followed in executing that election. So in January, and the election was completed, and there were five resident council members selected. The five resident council members were negotiated with us, like all the other resident councils,

a an MOU. In that MOU,

each resident council was allowed to get a sort of subsidy for their operations. They're allowed to get a lot of good office space if they requested the Parkside resident, council requested office space. So because that office space at the Parkside recreational center was leased to fop friends of Parkside, we went to friends of Parkside and asked them if they would be willing to allow the resident council to use two of the five or six rooms that are at the community center for their use. The Friends of Parkside was reluctant to allow the resident council to use, to use the space. They counter proposed that they should be able to use one room and maybe have partial use of another room. So there was some back and forth about that. It became pretty clear to get space back from friends of Parkside in just just by asking in a formal way. So what we did was we ended the terminated the lease, and we shared with friends of Parkside and resident council that we don't have any problem with friends of Parkside, but we need to make sure that the resident Council has a space that they need to do their work. So unfortunately, recently, there's been a lot of public dialog generated by friends of Parkside about this. We welcome people have the right to protest and make and make their voices heard, including the resident Council Parkside, I should add, and we welcome all of those voices, but I didn't want to just make sure you had that information, and members of the community who might be listening have that information, so that as questions are asked and comments are made about that, which we're anticipating a number of given that there's a group of folks who are here as part of it raising their voices about this, I just want to make sure You had a good narrative of what has happened. And if you have any questions, what were the terms of these what was the notice of the lease like? What was the whole process? So it's a $0 lease.

It's $1

a month, essentially. And it expired in March, and then it went month to month. Thereafter. We issued a termination notice may 25 and it was a 30 day notice period within that which expired on Sunday, June.

So that's the, that's the, those are the details of the lease. Again, we are very open to we recognize the importance of tenant voice. I also want to say, just in the interest of posterity, that for a long time, there are members of friends and Parkside have been involved in activism on that site, and that there was a time when Brenton Parkside was representative group right now. However, at the advocacy with the advocacy of the dependents, the resident Council is now the voice of that neighborhood. And while we have no quarrel with friends apartheid being part of how they advocate, we did want to make sure that that group had an office space that's consistent with the side with them. So again, there's going to be questions about this. It's my hope that when the full execution of the termination of the lease is complete, that there'll be some, will be some resolution reached where, because we're planning to have already offered that space to the print the resident Council. They are reviewing the police arrangements to see if they would like to do them, but it's our hope that some positive resolution come out of it. But at this point, you know, we had to retain the privacy of the group that was the elected we're talking about. There are four rooms at Parkside, approximately five, okay, one of which is subdividable,

okay, all in the central building at Parkside. Yes,

the President's Council, given it sort of like status under regulation, are they actually going to have a lease from us, or is it just, they're the residents Council. We're making the space available to those lease. So currently, it's just a part of their MOU that they should have space, right? We have so they signed that MOU right. We have since offered them the full control of all the space and that they can subdivide it into life. They can they can sublease it to whoever they want. Okay, so, so we are going to grant that, because they're not a legal entity like as far, give them control, lease control, not only storage. So if they wanted to park centers to take space, then we would then convert to at least because we guard the actual landlord.

We are the landlord. But pursuing MOU is structured and includes language like the lease board, and it's within the MOU itself. It says, if requested, we shall provide office states. The amendment that Arthur is referencing that we're going to make to the MOU is designating that specific office space to the resident County.

So what they we would have some kind of a use

agreement with an organization. We'd have some kind of use agreement, because the Residence Council has legal status with us in the HUD sort of regular audits we carry that an outside party does not. So we need to have some way to memorialize that relationship. But it will be through the auspices of the Residence Council that correct us and say we would like to use agreement for this entity or this space at these times, and we will create some kind of thing that's fine, not a problem. I don't love us doing third party pieces like that's our obvious reason, unless it's built into the deal. So I think like a use agreement or area,

I believe that there is, and that's why we approach this very important by just asking, Hey, I'll make some space for this other group.

It's there. I

just wanted to make sure that members of the commissioners, commissioners understood the background of this case. There are, if you will, over the next the comment period you will be hearing from angels who have concerns about this. I just want to make sure that those listening and those in the room who may not have a full accounting business are due. We shared all the information. I shared with every every resident of Parkside in writing. So this is all this is all fully, fully in the fully in the public with that,

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you for first person, we have signed up a couple

questions. You know, how do you distance

yourself to be able To have

today, Now, or frankly,

Energy Efficiency and in alignment with energy efficiency, because that helps with

summertime for air and then also the

I would say,

so we can

make delve into that on the sale versus key

in that that

presentation, because we want to make that this is the most efficient way to keep this housing get rehab and back into its sphere towards affordability is an ability to be managed or better off owned, so that, as opposed to in the kind of trapped HUD zones where we're the city there so for so long, in terms of what It cost us versus what it cost a private buyer to to rehab and that process. So that was really with that to answer that with, you know, we, resident services is always going to be. They know kind of what's coming out, making sure we know as board members, how do we make sure that we're fair with our services and the whole rest of the team, to make sure that we're providing those supports and being prepared for for any cuts and monitor that,

I think we'll always

be taking a look at, at, you know, the best way to keep the properties most efficient. And I think there'll always be this kind of back and forth between the traditional geothermal and the and the solar panels in life and the efficiency that you're now starting to see in certain HVAC systems is getting them down so low that it may make the cost of geothermal is up here, or is it cost operating additional system? of geothermal is up here, or is it cost operating our traditional systems?

Directly back in any way from from and working within those constraints, but those are things that we definitely all that's why we've been bringing on such high talent in our procurement and construction.

Thank you. We should also note the first time redevelopment has a substantial amount of high energy efficiency improvements, building materials, etc, into the proposal right Moscow, we're utilizing greenhouse gas reductions. Those funds have been embargo other

than so we don't have

a substantial portion of the of the improvements that we're playing with janasco, and I would say that is a bit of a blueprint. We would like to see if other redevelops that we need to do, but it's how do we pay for it? They're going to production of $1 for a very material not contributor to those improvements. So it's a bit of a wait and see. Right now, if that litigation is

resolved, and I suspect

if not, then on that

split, they've gotten so efficient that it was the lowest, you know, from that with, without even the solar, geothermal.

I just have one

more question about

the unit. Know that you guys have more view this stuff coming online, even bigger units to hear that the bottom ones I seen on the website.

So I'm what is the best way for

residents or people who want to become

access properties?

Definitely waitlist. Currently have an existing wait list that we're going to take fire emergency. Once we get through that waitlist, then we'll replace for those

families.

But I mean,

bring my website, like, what is the best?

Oh, what like when you open it up, you

will definitely be in the newspaper and as well as on our website, note

that the witness now opens And over

now we were eligible,

so our Next speaker

is Barbara Ward, Hopson is my best.

I think he says she's on the other front, okay, yeah, we probably bring two or three people in.

I'm enjoying having the subject matter experts answer the questions. I looked at my COO and the board commissioners, housing experts. You don't want to hear me do my husband. We can answer first. They can correct us if they go, yeah. So anything

that's perfect.

New, oh, yeah,

well, I don't

know, alright, so let's see. In for the FOP, I think we have Kimberly is it Sanders? Sanders, good afternoon again.

My name is Kimberly Sanders. I'm the operational manager for friends of our side. There's some things that I do want to clarify. There are nine that we

occupy. And when we got the offer to

for act to give space to the resident Council, the we asked, they asked for classrooms, for one and two classroom one and two are our main classrooms, where we do community engagements in those classrooms, and so we, in turn, sent a letter and asked if we could give the old Resident council room that they had before and give One of the classrooms and the larger of the two, so it's one classroom that's larger than either. And we could be class one, and Mr. Jimson was right in that even that classroom, we ask that it could be a chair. They can use it when they have meetings or have any instructional type of business. So it was not a say. It was no. It was never a no on sharing classroom space at all. We've always, in the past, worked with our resident council because we know that the community is stronger with the resident Council. We were the ones that encouraged for us to have a resident. It was also told to us that our resident Council, if we then, was asked to come here for a meeting, and they said that we're going to lease the space to resident Council and make stuff next to you. And so after that, we really didn't hear we were asking the running Council, are they going to sell these to us? Because who cares? Whose names on it knows the work being done, right? And the resident Council, or some of the members of the resident Council, I can't speak for all them, because some of them have not reached back to us. They were told not to discuss this. This is the tenant and landlord issue, and

not to talk with us about it, because

when we were asking them, they said they didn't have the formal contract, so they can't even discuss sublease payments. So if that's the case, that they can sublease, we know that the resident Council speak for the residents. We've been doing a petition, and we have over online, 65 petitions that signed up and on in handwriting. I think we have about 50 to 60 in parenting. So the community has both. Community has said that they want friends of our side to be here. So I don't know if the resident Council is communicating what the community is saying, but we ask that the DHC listen to please finish.

You know, I obviously think that a community is strong. The actual name of villages, or fireside, is village. It's a village. One thing that Irene said when I met her, and I totally agree, if we can reach one kid who cares where how it comes from, the services are important, so we're apartheid. Never is the opposition. Yesterday, when we did a protest, we told Mr. Kimson, before we do anything, we're going to let him know. And we were tricked to that. We told him that we're going to be protesting, and we didn't do it at the time of the meeting, we did a report to be respectful, but the next day, or the day before, there was louders and thoughts our community for a Youth Day, which is wonderful. We should have a Youth Day, right? But the same time that the peaceful protest was going on to have a Youth Day, peace, violence, of what you think of our community, any of them music. We can give them a hot dog, and we can give them a gaming truck, and they'll forget about what's really important. We then looked out. There was three police truck which stacked my heart because no one had villages apartside, the support friend of our side would ever do anything to be disruptive or to put our community at harm's way? So look out there and see three police trucks for us. Was great. It broke my heart.

There was heartbreak

because of this, just to do work for a community that we love is so I want to, I want you to hear my heart. I know I'm speaking on they have fresh apart side, but I'm also speaking on a as a person. They got my gun at 13. I I was in corporate before the pandemic. I had opportunities. My boys went off to college. I had the opportunity to do something different, and then that before I decided to go work for a nonprofit, I have been enjoying this into this moment. It is sad because I look across the room and I see people that look like me, and I would think that you will want to do something important, and so that's really all I have. I had a whole lot to say, but really I just wanted you to understand we work with our council in the past, and I don't understand why we can't do it in the future. I did understand that they want us to leave. We don't have finances to pick up and leave and tend to move back. Every finance that we get for press apart side those scissors we have. We lost a grant, and some of our employees lost their job the same day we lost our friend, but because they care so much for the community, they came back and volunteered for those services so that we would still have our after school here. And so that shows how passionate not only we are about friends of our side, our employees are passionate because they work without a check. I went several times without getting a paycheck to provide services for friends of our side, not for the villages of our side, for the people of our side. And so I'm just seeing that this is a labor of love. Not we need the space to gain any thing, but to level my

that They will not be

evicted from them. That's that

you so

we have these people here now, if our if a person is speaking as a group, but then we also have other people here,

the other names,

we would ask that each of The three

minutes, and so we provide group

representation. So

have. My name is

Shawn Lamont, and I'm representing them. I'm moving

events.

I but has been there.

When they get out of

school,

they're there, homework,

peer pressure.

They take them off.

They go to the zoo. They go to

institutional art. They go to

all kinds of museums. They take

Wayne State University to get them the feel of how when they graduate, this is what they want to be a part of. They are part of Wayne State University. They have different activities out there for the kids to be a part of.

And I love it.

You know, get the

do be a part of gaming. You know, just being with all the day or whatever you know, all you supposed to do. No, they want to stimulate their knowledge and give them a part of arts. They have at the

art side for them to do. They have so

they have different things that

actually sit down and ask them things that they want to do in life. They have been there all the time for

my baby and because,

if they don't see

any one of the staff.

They come home and go

now, I didn't speak. Miss fatigue. I didn't see anyone. Kimberly, Mr. Zach. Mr. Zach, okay. You know, they asked about them,

each one of them by

are very concerned, because they take time with them.

It's so much

if they don't have the roof, they come out of pocket.

They see to us.

They're not problem.

Prince Parkside is not the problem. Our solution

and steal the solution.

So please, you

thank you so much.

And I just want to put out there clearly. You know, the goal is to find the method that works for resident Council, Parkside. And in case that is, thank you. Very helpful to hear of all of the impact they've had. Next we have from cornea.

How many people do we have in the conference? Yeah,

or more people on this list. So I'm just wondering if you need to make space for them, and we're

going to gonna get, I mean, we're we limited the first person the five minutes will give everybody else their

freedom online.

Because,

I mean, could, well, I mean, if there's This color,

that's very easy. I

everybody

else so

archive as well as

first I have one. But is it true that resident council told the decision to copy, rent or subway, to space the FOP to remain on site 18 programs, because permanent Parkside has been an asset to the community by providing resources activity and for past school programming that consists of at school training for Detroit, they also provide training to the adults and got opportunity where any age are paid within perfect and never let the seniors out by having a weekly angle so that they have an opportunity to engage with one another in our audit that we're working at present archive, I was able to obtain my community health workers certificate, which I'm still benefiting two years later, so I'm asking equally that you keep fop in car side. Thank you.

Thank you. Very interesting.

Yeah. Mr. Ringwig, way

to see you.

I've

never been in

since my girl was

11 and 12. I up.

I am here

today. Our side to us is more than home.

It's a beauty

village. When I say

anything that someone could do for someone else. We do it and we don't hesitate, because it's so important that you be able to be around and have a community that got you. And Zachary wrote, how about that? With food, with clothing, with we go in the heat to come in, we do homework. I've been one who go in there and work and make sure we get done, and make sure it get back to the school. We relate

to the school to tell if that homework is

please inform someone it's not in. Make sure we did it with to help them out. This is what I think anybody would want for a family and a community like that that is so important to be a part of. We should never, ever just kind of get rid of the thing that works for the community, that keeps the kids in place. They going to go to school, they going to graduate. My girl, both of them graduated from where we live that and it's important that young. This is what they can do too. It is always important to have the backs of children that make sure they succeed, and if they succeed now, they gonna succeed later. And I just wanted to come here and express that, because it's so important to me living in that community, and I want to thank you so much for giving me the opportunity

to do something. Thank you that's I definitely want to reiterate that we have committed making sure that that that there's a resolution, and our presumption is that Prince of apartheid will be operating space, is what I heard, and that the resident has to have the space. Maybe what feels like is missing, to me, a deep understanding of from the housing commission side of what space is actually being right. So in a scenario where one person says, I need all this space, another person says, I need auto space, and there's overlap. We're we're the people who are supposed to know each side well enough. Actually we, we think y'all might be able to operate together if you do this, and you do this and such that if we knew they use on a daily basis, knew how much you know how often they needed the classroom to each side, deeply enough, it feels like we could, we could solve this. And so one of the things that I know, I worry about it, I think other commissioners may worry about, is just being like Resident council have has just been encouraging this conflict that that wasn't resolved to to continue to be a conflict, but so it's, you know, our our role here has to be one that is evaluating and proposing a solution that that obviously works for our resident Council as official body, but also works for organization that that has a lot of communities to work and so, so I don't want us withdrawing all of delving in deep, because I bet there's a solution. It just seems crazy that there's not a solution like and it may not be the solution that everybody's like, Oh, look, I want but a solution that says, Listen, let's see what the programs are. Let's see what the space needs are, and let's make sure that that's that's accomplished by so three, four times.

That's typically how that's how we draw,

according

to our plan, turn

right? But

there will be things where someone says, I don't want to or can't be HUD standards or fit into whatever it's, uh, you know, for countries, I love to do the work, but I can't have this huge insurance policy that's required under this service and so, but if they've been operating during this time, I want us to know what space means that their operations have right On a daily basis and on an event basis, so that we can grab the solution, right? So if, if they're if every day they got 50 kids showing up, no one can take the small we got 50 kids. If every day they got two kids showing up, then you say, Hey, you this room fits for what your needs are. We got to be the first craft business this, letting them sort it out hasn't worked, if I might so I definitely think we share that view. And representatives and friends of parks that were in this room, you know, we share with them. This is something that's very solvable, and we think now, unfortunately it doesn't happen all the time, but there hasn't been, I think what I've been able to see like an effort to bring people together about solving this. I'm very happy to get back involved and broker a solution, but I think if I do that, I think people have to recognize that not everybody's gonna be happy. And people are gonna say, well, I need more space, and other people gonna say, I need more space, one way or the other. I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to bring the parties back together to talk about it again. People are gonna have to compromise, though, and right now, unfortunately, that climate has existed, have been created. I think we have created because I think you guys right, and this is why I would say to to our representatives of our time, we know they this is what we're willing to offer. It doesn't work, right? It was a $1 lease. Month. Lease is designed to be a benefit to say thank you for your service, right? And so, but the resident Council has to be allowed to have that they they truly need. It's just an absolute. So

with, with, with the

and the the community. We hear their passion, but we have to hold

Miss Sanders and Mr. Rowe. Miss,

well, no, I mean, I mean from friends of our side to say, Okay, we need to see the statistics of your operations so that we can make sure that you have the space you need for your operation. I just And so and with the resident Council, what we have so much experience with resident Council, or we know what space they they need on a on a standard basis, and what station they want on a fifth basis. And so we but, but they have to. The leaders of each side have to have this agreement, because the legal process is resident Council wins. So going, going with the other process that says, How do we get this solution, in regards to the service that has been provided that requires the leaders of the Friends of Parkside to really work to make sure that they are, are, are adequately planning the space and coming to a compromise. And it requires us as knowing what resident council needs to say. Resident Council, you know, you only need 5000 square feet, but, but you may need it every every quarter, and you'll have it every quarter, you know. And so we have to get into this, because we can't just allow people just to go back and forth and fight illegally. Yes, it's at our space. You know, we were, we had a month to month lease, but we want to make sure this, and we want to make sure that it works in terms of what people's actual needs are, and stop this from being a a back and forth power match, and so, so, so we're going to hear all the rest of the comments, but I want that to be the overall I've been charged, and then I'll No, I appreciate that. I appreciate that I've been in the background listening to this, and I appreciate that it had to come to this right, because that was only when everybody go, oh, maybe we can't come to what we just suggested nobody can. So it's so so thank you, sorry for the long subversion. I think we have next

letter. Hi. My name is letter. I don't

know why I feel so comfortable. I never spoke in front of a lot of people before, but I feel extremely comfortable.

But compromise

when you hit that, I said to myself, like, Okay,

why? We just can't compromise. You know, that's the key word

compromising. Although I'm not a resident of Parkside, I used to be some years, years ago, but my daughter and my three grandchildren are ready to stop there, and they attend the after

school program,

so what Grandma, do is pick them up from school, and grandma take them straight to after school, which is cool. So with seeing that, I also got offered a job training program with the AARP. So I am 55 and over, and I love it there. I do. I love the kids. I just love the services and being able to have answers for people that call that need services. And I love the atmosphere. It's just not fop, it's DHC, tool, you know. You guys come through Hey, you know. And all I expect is another, hey, you know, so, and that's compromising, you know, compromising my Hey, and come back with another Hey, you know. So I just want to say this, let's compromise. Put God in the middle. Let Him guide us where we need to be, wherever that may need to be, you know. And let's work it out. Because I see how the kids they love coming up there, getting on my nerves, but outside my own grandchildren, but you know, compromise is the key, and that we can put God in there to help us compromise, that they're not going to be all sizes, going to get along well. And I see the tears. They even had me in tears. And I'm not even arrested, you know, but I feel, you know what they feel, and I feel what y'all feeling. So the compromise is in the middle. God is right there in the middle. So let's work that out, and let's get the program moving

the redevelopment wherever we go. Thank you

guys. Welcome, mister president. Can I just question want to understand. So at this point, are the services that FLP provides the residents cease? Have they ceased? Like there is no after school program, there is no none of this. They're not getting any of these services at this question before every result

of the lease map. So although the leasing ended, yes, however, we think is a little bit of a misunderstanding about this on Monday. But then what I understand, that's what we continue to have full access to the space that they were using. So if there's been any change in what they're doing, I'm not aware of it. But again, there was misunderstanding on Monday, but I think today, they've got full access to the space 2024,

we've been over there since December 2024,

so we do so so like we want to have this, this compromise being as soon as possible, right? So that no one starts thinking, okay, are these determinate? Do you have to start moving programs right here so them feeling like they're at risk? This is, I've heard that's why you guys are on here, that this has to be solved. And it sounds like a one conversation, maybe a two conversation thing, because, because, you know, fop has been operating for a while that they tell you how many kids are are coming on a daily basis, and how much, basically, they think there's got to be some space planning understanding that could be had you guys are already there. So you know what space shooting is. Let's, get this done, and let's hold anyone being unreasonable account on any side that's our group, the whole people. And so after that, right, exactly, perfect. Thank you, but we still have B Scotty. Greetings, wow.

Friends apart,

been committed since day one, over 30 plus years. That should speak volumes, volumes, volumes born and raised from the original Park side and 69 I'm still rooted in this community for documental purposes, as it applies to our Parkside Historical Society dealing with the

military candidate

and the residents and so

forth. But if something is not

broke, why reinvent the wheel? Keep it going. Keep the connection going. The village, the people, and I know it says friends of Parkside is actually family of Parkside beyond friends, and we need to keep friends apartside In Parkside, when the

Old council back in my era, telling my age.

I mean, it's the same thing to torch to them. They have in the same programs where we have nothing is, is our is continuing legacy, just going, going, going, and we need it, our future, our children need it. I mean, Parkside is not just for the youth, it's for the family. That's why, when I put stuff out there in the media, it's always a unit. We come in unison. It's unity in a community. And then not only attracts the village, it attracts the outskirts and the borders too, that come in and there's a Parkside welcomes everyone at the table, and it still continues, with the funds and without, they're still doing what they where they've served and serving to do our community. Thank you. Thank you very

much. I think now we have I'm sorry,

did you call my name?

Okay? Sorry. Man dropped off so

I'm sorry. Hello. Can you guys hear

me? Okay? Oh, good afternoon. Zach P Rowe, friends apart side. I'm blown away. I'm speechless, and I'm humble, and I was just like to thank all the residents and supporters who spoke on our behalf. Is usually the other way around. We're speaking up, advocating for them. So thank you. And I think also, I just like to thank chairperson Hosley for your your your

great remarks. I mean, I think there's a way forward

also, you know, and I'm glad Arthur is getting back into the conversation, because it seemed as though me, there's been some misinterpretation of events that that have happened. And I really don't want to rehash all of them, you know, but, but we, we were really open to sharing space with resident Council, the one of the things that we were trying to work through with DHC at the time is that the we know we have grants and we have obligation this, you know, we we have to do certain things, because that's how we give money to to to To do services that we have grants, and so some of that is tied to to space, right? And so we were trying to work things out, provided it was a win, win for friends apart side red Council, but, but, but at times, though, it seemed as though folks were trying to ripen weapon weaponize president. Council against friends felt, and so open, that's not the case. And then sort of responding directly to Commissioner Cohen's question that we have a community garden that we have not started because we wasn't sure of whether that we went out the space. And so if you go to office now, you see all kinds of gardening equipment. He said, we have not started planning. And if you know, if you're a gardener, you know you have so much time to plant your garden. And then also, we recently awarded a a $30,000 grant to restart our food program. But I got an email yesterday from the funders, sort of saying, hey, we need to talk, because we want to understand this relationship, what's going on with DHC in your space. So I just, I'm just appreciative that that the commissioners are willing to look at this issue and listen to the residents. Thank you

all. It on here. So thank you

having that level of communication. This is why

was the space of our request. This join and our sizings and effectiveness and the population,

sure that, particularly with

our executive team,

understand, unleash your business case at the four point so that that's taken into account for and that information will be helpful in coming up with resolutions. So thank you very much.

So next,

there's the actual thanks.

You Excuse me. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, everyone.

Wow. Okay, I'm gonna read my speech, and maybe

I come before you today,

someone who has lived, served

and stood with the resident community throughout the what happened at

churches is not only disruption, deeply disappointing. I ain't calling what it is bullying. I am speaking specifically to mister Zach, who used his position not to empower, but to intimidate. We've seen it bullying Detroit and now bullying they do elect the council. This behavior is not only it's harmful to the people we all supposed to be serving. Let's be clear, the resident council was not your Lieutenant. We are elected to buy the residents or the residents, I just okay, plain and simple, but instead, to be

allowed to focus on important,

relocation, maintenance concerns,

we are distracted and

by flyers, misinformation and

Miss mix

And let's talk about what's happening. There's a role.

And started now. There is a leadership in place that you can use to saturate the residents. Materials

not true. Let's be honest. This isn't about transparency or outreach. It's about control. It's about creating confusion and clarity. It's about silence voices that won't be swayed. Some residents don't even even know about the relocation meeting because yesterday concerning the new development. Why? Because they were overwhelmed. They lost in the sea of flighters and pop up rallies. There's no coordination, no courtesy, just chaos. This is not advocacy. This is manipulation, and I want to make it known, the rest of the council still do not access to office space. They are entitled to work, serve and to meet with DHC, responsible for showing the space, provided they are aware of this, and they are still,

and they are,

we are told, and I know that they are working on it, but the delay we've been in office since January, combining with the confusion being

created, make much harder to

were elected to do we know

they are well

aware. Of what's going on and asking the act fairly and to accommodate,

to be accountable

do what is just do, what ensures both sides to serve to the

same standard respect

because this should not be about personality issue.

We didn't ask for chaos,

and when that, when that doesn't happen, we are not we were met with confusion, disruption and attraction, attacks on our leadership. Say that this is not advocacy, this manipulation. We need clarity. We need order, and most of all, we need a space to serve the people who elected us. Not be bullied. We will not be distracted. We will continue to represent our residents with diligence and transparency and the love we have for the community, because that's what leadership does.

So thank you very much. It's, I think,

for exactly what we've talked about,

to be participants and compromise, and certainly the only way

for both sides,

cooperatively

And so all the things that happen fast

future

in detail about how we get this unique so

these methods,

I think We have to be in there

with, you know, with our representative

services,

organizing that space and ensure that people have what they need, when they need what they needed, so that, so that we have growth and move for everything else. I look forward to hearing how that set out

and all this,

this video stuff.

Thank you so much. Mr. Lee

award, good afternoon. Good

afternoon. Okay, can you hear

me? Good? Good afternoon, everyone.

I have rolled out this speech for you real quick, but I'm just gonna speak from the heart.

First off, I wanted to

speak to you my along with my mother

for many, many years, my mother and I voted on the other previous

side. We were some of the first occupants to actually move here as far as what I wanted to address, I wanted to,

in my opinion, to change

the the park side provided my mother and I significant support

during A previous incident when we suffered with the drew court right

that administrator, MS,

he was very instrumental in helping us to understand and effectively communicate

to DHC and also

to The property which I and I do want to give my thanks for.

At that time, and because of some of the things that we discussed with just wrote, we actually became solution. It was out, I think that

that have happened in the

past, as you just said, they should stay in the past. Looking forward to this future building

I have raised. My

lost some children that I've raised here. They were part of Mr. Rose program while they were small. And now I look forward to seeing small children, hopefully that can benefit from

him. The thing about going through

people out here transition,

which we did before, and it does take on work on both sides with everyone, and I'm hoping that with the cooperation of everyone at hand, that we can find a resolution and that the future of our community, in my opinion, should encourage a smooth transition that will be beneficial for the Parkside residents and the DHC landlords allow friends apart to flourish on site in cohabitation with

the resident Council,

so that we all can see this community and this area grow and move forward. Thank you for your time. I hope you heard everything I said, because I'm very nervous and happy afternoon. Thank you.

So our last speaker, we have good afternoon.

Good afternoon. All right, did I? Afternoon. My name is Robin Brookins, and hello to everybody. And just want to say, first and foremost, I do respect authority. I do respect hierarchy, I respect management, but I have some unpopular things that I may be saying now. I apologize if anyone's offended. I agree a little bit with what everybody says, and there's a little bit of truth in what everybody is saying. I've been a resident at Parkside for five years, and I don't like to pick up dust. I pretty much keep my head down. I don't think orders for work. I fix things myself. I don't like anything. I don't have any small children. I don't use any of the programs. But I have needed advocating from parents of Parkside. I agree that our resident Council is, is awesome for community engagement, for for the community it's supposed to be, I don't want to take anything from the resident Council. I don't particularly know what they do or what kind of space that they need. My understanding is that city resident council have jobs, and my concern with that is, are they going to be able to, in essence, provide the same resources and advocacy that the people that have been trained to do the job are, and have we made sure that the people that we have in place are qualified to

do the job? Even

also, I want to say

something about the development too. If I get not sure, I hope I don't get involved. But this just was, I find a culture of people not asking them work questions, and I'm here by myself. Like I said, I've lived here five years. And with respect to resident Council, a lot of people have been living here for 20 and 30 years, and they have lots of family in here, and pretty much people do what they want because they know who they know type of deal. The last couple of weeks, there's been parades out in front of my house. There's, I don't have any neighbors close to me. I have two neighbors on my whole strip, but I come home, I can't park you.

Um, 47 seconds.

So when it comes to the resident Council, honestly,

limitation to people knowing that, I say we, you know, resources, seven people

that. And I think it's telling that

signatures on a, on a on to

me, if not anybody else, that the two heads of those two different organizations aren't going to see eye to eyes. So I just think that somebody should was smart for the community. As we're saying, we want to do what's best, what's in the best interest of the community, and I don't want to see you out a whole bunch more stuff, so I'll stop it there. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Making sure that people know

what we're doing and making sure that everybody understands what and where that does, or our resident services where it does or may not, overlap with friends of our side.

Everybody looks like one other person to Yeah,

yeah. So much you

community.

Hi. My name is Angela Pruett, and I've worked with Parkside through Parkside and was voted to be a resident rep advisor, and the resident also asked me to advise, having worked with Zachary. I remember in 2022 early when he was reading about his lease. Was March, I got to review his release that um expired the three years expired in March, but he never told the residents that police had a club in it when we talked about his back in 2022 when he was talking to formidable about that, That formidable, formidable, believe that it could be terminated. Mr. Rome, he agreed to regarding his lease, and throughout his lease, he took on extra space that didn't belong to him, kicking out the resident

Council. They could

do the services that they were supposed

to then you had counseling place the whole time, but eventually, for several years, over 15 years, you've had a resting Council. It was ran by Mrs. Rowe, and then switched over what way to a new leadership of jvondah, who could not operate because the COVID happened, and then she was kicked out of her offices. So that's the need face. But she was kicked because

it was under emails that were although

storage, Mr. Rowe put one of his operation

Staff Center and painted it and because pictures of the room

pretty odd that no pop outs showed up for the residents got the debt collection letters, no pop outs popped up. No pop popped up by Park side, when there were roof leaking out, when there was eviction happening, when the resident Council tried you for, which was January, every resident was it to attend, advising from the times a developer was picked because they had an advisory team of five people from outside that had either no experience, lived experience, or HUD experience or development. In my background in construction safety and things like that, was why I was chosen, and so I say always to say that at Parkside did not support resident Council and giving your resident Council a chance to get into a space that can operate, have a telephone number, have copiers to disseminate new leaders, is something a lot on the council that's been throttled. I said, in the meeting with Joe with the National Hall housing

project, where he wanted

the resident Council, and they advised him that he could not be because his consists already. He had other people on his board that were not they asked him to support either a new president council or activate the oh,

he tampered with that.

Had several, at least four staff players to help activate, to organize, and he always said, Not yet, not now. I witnessed this personally. So for someone to act like someone's just throwing them out. He had a lease that expired. He had a termination clause in that lease. He took space from the resident Council, and I have not seen him support the resident Council in a fashion that should be supporting the resident Council, all because of the fact that he felt ownership to that. Give props to Mr. Rowe for having given back in the programs, but the advocacy portion, I've watched him interfere, and can be connected. And if they gave me permission to say their names, I'd give their whole situation, but I don't want to identify them without having spoke to them. So I've seen the downside outsider looking in, who's previously lived in public housing, who has a background having been on a HUD coalition, who has a background as a member of National Low Income Housing, who've been in meetings, who, when Zachary row has had workers working for him, he wants to be considered big papa, and he says the culture of friends apart side, when complaints went to be some changes with friends of Parkside before they're allowed to pressure or get back in, he wants to appear that he's collaborating with them, but all the time seems he's sabotaging them for the residents to not know what their resident Council does. That's only because of the fact that for the last since 2022 that I know of, he's discouraged and tried to undermine the resident Council by taking their offices, by putting in your windows out there, and misleading. They have the power when they don't own anything, they don't have a lease to anything, they don't have a place to operate, to be able to serve in the capacity that they were meant to serve in. I've created resident councils in other places and encouraged residents in other cities the state of Michigan and what Mr. Rowe is doing, it should be

so thank you so much. We mentioned going over time people make sure that they kind of got high, and we've given people kind of more of a of a representative of a group timeline. But so thank you very much for your comments. I take them more in a spirit of being dark, getting out, getting what you you know, in preparation for the compromise of the resolution.

And so all information

is, we're glad that people got a chance to have have these comments and share their views from each side, right and so. And we expect our staff to be in deeply knowing, sorting one from the other. And so that we could, we can move this forward and have the best resolution for all so thank you very much for that. And so each person who makes a comment, there is no rebuttal. There's no scenario where people can say, Okay, well now let me handle my public comment. So at this point we'll end public comment, but thank you all. What we will be looking for is an understanding of what the resolution is and a deep understanding of what each organization does and provides and like. And I cannot guarantee that everyone

will be ecstatic, but

everyone will be understood, and we will focus on resolution. So thank you all.

Our next item.

The commissioner. Commissioners say

back when I heard

the residents Council is the HUD sanctioned body head of

representation, because they are.

Is not a dig

the organization

across. That is the that has been legally prescribed by which tenants have representation. Yes, lots of things we don't like about regulation across mattering of things, but that

is the bottom right. So when it comes to,

my opinion, the tenant board

is the priority, because that is the entity that is accountable to investments that is voting in and out. So they are the priority for utilization of any space that's across all properties. We noted that if you want a formal

relationship

with DHC. We have a system for that as to be

a vendor, to be a service

provider. I

understand that there may be some burdensome obligations to doing so, which is the case in everything that we do. If it doesn't make sense, I understand it, but there is a way to have a formalized relationship with DHCC. You don't have to choose to do that, but that is a way to have a formalized relationship. And we have our own resident service, office and provider team, which is our own resources, that we can resource, that we can fund, which is also so we have a lot of changes happening at Parkside, lot of changes that are happening right? Like I get the anxiety, I'm anxious about it. We have to do something. We are making a lot of really hard choices. I would ask people to please try their best to let go of past grievances, because we need residents to be alive and working with us so that we are getting the best outcome for the seniors and families and children that are living at that site, and a power struggle is not going to serve anything right? Let me just be real clear that the voice that is sanctioned by this board is the residents Council. That is the body that is elected. It's not taking away anything from the village or for the residents of Parkside or friends of Parkside. They do, but the best outcome is going to be coordination across all the groups that care, including our resident services. And I do like you, expect

mics here, people acting in good faith.

Egos get in front of people's

good faith in our harbing residents. They don't belong in the state, right? So we are all going to work together on this, or not be

part of the working group

at all, because we have a lot of changes that are happening. And like we must do, this is where residents but we cannot have these power struggles, say, the third time, the residents Council is the authoritative body, because they are elected, which is not true of private groups. So I have so much admiration for the work that threatens the Parkside has done. You just have to coordinate better or services in

coordination is better than a lack of Gallic. Oh,

they might lower the temperature and lower the like conspiracy. Nobody's out to get any but earlier, we are trying to make life better here forever. This is not about trying to screw somebody over, but we have to try to get to a place of good intent. So we were asked about this next time this is going to keep coming up,

leading with

members of the residents Council,

friends of parks, on our own staff to like, put the water under the bridge and focus on what is the best. Go forward with that hierarchy that the residents Council is the voice of those residents, so they start with what their needs are. They can in green. Have to actually be doing something right

there, right let's make sure we're utilizing

much as possible.

That's completely that's why and don't get the sub lease process at all. As far as the Lego got to go figure that we got to be in there providing our expertise and flexibility and understanding. I got buddies versus, I mean, yes, this was a property that had 110 by 10 room. They're like, you know, that's the Residence Council Room. It's only because we have so much space on this property at this time that that there's even a compromise available and and so it would have been wonderful if it wasn't me, because just to be clear, they Have 100 other responsibilities, and now they have 101 and so, so, so, if it hadn't been needed, they could have focused on all the other things, all the Intel, external growth, everything else we're asking them to do now we're asking them to resolve this, this problem, And the reason that their goal was to not was not so that they could pick up another episode of the latest Netflix. It was so that they could continue doing all of the other things that they happen to do, right and so and so this resolution

is taking the time

of something

and so, so let's get this done quickly, officially and in a long term way, because, because they got so much stuff that they need to be doing, and this has just added on to it. Commissioner Williams, thank you for your recommendations. To me about that. Okay, education to me.

Thank you very much. That comments,

this is what the team tells. 115

please. So much for coming. So much. Thank you to the public as well for doing so. So hearing that, I will call for a motion to adjourn so far, all in favor. Thank you.