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Raftur Resume Reviews 2/22/24
Speaker 1
00:00game to have subreddits on on Reddit. And a number of people say that he abuses the crap out of his power. He does that a lot. So that's why that's why I made my own subreddit for Game Dev. Job Board.
Michael Lubker
00:13I've I've had that happen in various biopolis in various forms.
Unknown Speaker
00:26Now,
Michael Lubker
00:27read it. annoying, but I find that especially annoying.
Unknown Speaker
00:32Oh yeah, it is. Not
Michael Lubker
00:34taught for the last.
Speaker 1
00:36But dude, the reach is so great. I mean, i i Every day I'm there every time I post on it. It's just a complete battle with the mods and the rules and all that stuff. Yeah, but and and with down votes and shit comments and stuff like that. But still even dealing with all that. It's like my last post for this tombstone game. Where'd it go? Maybe not that one anyway got more than it got like 3000 plus views on it even though it was like down voted into oblivion and shit. Like people are jerks, but there's still a lot of people look at it here it is. Oh no. 27,000 Almost 26,000 views 664 comments but zero of 47% of vote right? So it's like even though people are are down voting it like those 25,000 views are still worth it. I think
Speaker 1
01:51yeah, I read it as a huge asset but I still think it's worth it
Speaker 1
02:03Alright, well I guess while we're waiting, let me this is this. This is still a work in progress, FYI. But yeah, let's get some feedback here.
Michael Lubker
02:12Okay, do you need screenshot access? No, I'll just I'll just post a PDF real quick
Unknown Speaker
02:30Michael, how are you publicizing this event? Um,
Michael Lubker
02:32I usually drop it in like all layoffs like but it was pretty active. And I want to go overboard in posting on LinkedIn today, unfortunately, just once.
Speaker 1
02:48And then I'll typically take the LinkedIn post and post it on Reddit and sometimes other social media but that's
Michael Lubker
02:57usually the three main choices. I usually get like least a couple people but sometimes people to fol Yeah. That's that's Albert Bowles, I suppose.
Speaker 1
03:14Yes, well, if anyone can post on this job board here, I said that has. Remember 100,000 Plus users. What is it? More than that? Yeah. 100 103,000 members on there. So and they're all it's all about? Looking for work in the game industry. So we
Michael Lubker
03:37have somebody but let's let's take a look at your hands. Our admit this person. You
Speaker 1
03:46can admit them first. I mean, we don't want to keep them waiting too long. Yeah,
Speaker 2
03:53I like to format when everybody's together when we're reviewing. I think that people will learn things even as we're talking about Aaron's resume. Yes.
Michael Lubker
04:02Well, Sabrina, welcome. Oh, hello. Welcome. Sorry. I said welcome before you audio just
Speaker 1
04:19tried to take try to take all the typical feedback that we have, and focus this specifically on Game Dev because previously my resume it was focused on both producer and Operations Manager experience and while I understand that those are actually quite similar, I don't think most people do.
Speaker 2
04:46Michael, you're gonna share it on your screen. Should I downloaded it should I just open it? Um,
Michael Lubker
04:51I can show up. Yep. I want to
Malize Evans
04:55be mindful that Aaron's male is on top of it. Are you okay with the with him? Okay.
Michael Lubker
05:05Yeah, I do like to ask. Yes.
Speaker 1
05:12Yeah, I even went to, you know, what I'd love to do though is figure out how they format it where they have two columns, but like the skills are on the side column and it's a lot smaller. I can't I can't manage that. I got to play with word a lot more or Google Yeah.
Michael Lubker
05:31I always play food like, print shop to word for doing like more complex. stuff.
Speaker 1
05:41But is that what they're doing it in another program? my fat fingers?
Michael Lubker
05:46Yeah. I mean, I've seen people use like, people, there'll be tools, but obviously there was the question of like, does it he does picked up. Shawn from but that said like, new. It really just depends on the company because some some companies operate here update their ATS on some time.
Speaker 1
06:16So I'm sure it's a probably not a priority for cost. Right. As long as it's working. That's picking pretty much anything in business as long as it's working. Yeah.
Michael Lubker
06:28I also have had a busy week so I'm a little behind on the like the back end of doing about a buck. Shawn from the firms also gave me a list of people to contact for future ones at the end. So we should have like a group of people. Anyway, let me get the screen here we go. Sorry about that.
Malize Evans
06:58So Aaron, I'm going to tell you something absolutely stupid about it, but it's good greens, beet greens, my absolute gears. The dates, at the end of the page, justify to the right
Speaker 1
07:11not in the middle. I couldn't do like again, I'm fighting that's what I'd say is a work in progress because I'm fighting with when we see it's like it doesn't Oh, maybe I can't I can't Why and I'm up I was having trouble. I just need to mess with the margins. I think, Hey,
Michael Lubker
07:26I'm Erin
Speaker 2
07:28if you just go into if you add a tab to
Michael Lubker
07:31the spring show up and running.
Speaker 2
07:36Okay, now I'm just saying is it Yeah, it's it's just a word thing. If you if you have your tab you add a tab. I mean, the best thing to do is select the whole document, add a tab you can put it anywhere and then up on the top just you know by the little arrows like slide it over to the right. and and then make sure that you know, I mean there's there are other easier ways to do it. but then you just have to make sure you have the right number of tabs so that it's hitting that tab or.
Speaker 1
08:06Alright, well I've already moved him over just to the end as far as I can. Yeah. But yeah, I was I was messing with that to missing with a bunch of stuff I don't like it either. Michael,
Speaker 2
08:17Michael Michaels, trying to, what are you working on getting Srinagar
Michael Lubker
08:21I'm, I'm grabbing resumes.
Speaker 2
08:29Are you president? That's right. Yeah, I mean, in terms of saving time, the again impressive resume is impressive. I think there's some language things that you want to you might want to change like, for the what for you know, I and I understand it's a little tricky because you have the one where you're where you're working now, kind of in present tense. And then the ones where they're in the past, you have the past the past tense, but for example, like the first bullet point, increase social reach of indie developers. I think you want to put 
that you know in past tense to say that's what I did. Okay. Like the next one could be working with instead of work, you know, there's just some little grammatical things that will polish it up a little bit. So you know, anything that's, that's done make sure you make sure the making clear that it's something you've accomplished, and anything that you're currently doing, make sure that it's clear that it's, it's in it's something you're doing, you're continuing to do. Okay.
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that you know in past tense to say that's what I did. Okay. Like the next one could be working with instead of work, you know, there's just some little grammatical things that will polish it up a little bit. So you know, anything that's, that's done make sure you make sure the making clear that it's something you've accomplished, and anything that you're currently doing, make sure that it's clear that it's, it's in it's something you're doing, you're continuing to do. Okay. Michael Lubker
09:36on all floors, or I've noticed from poems like looks like those are like, like to have the look at One World. So this time.
Speaker 1
09:49Oh, yeah, actually, it's probably Yeah, I have the experience and skills in blue. That's probably not a good idea because it makes them looks like
Michael Lubker
09:56links. Yeah. That might use a different color too to normalize.
Unknown Speaker
10:10Wow, nothing else guys. Rip it apart. I don't mind I need one.
Unknown Speaker
10:17Badly. Yeah,
Michael Lubker
10:18my mind was acting up at first. Okay, great. Oh. Yeah, I interrupt the conversation either. Yeah, I could lie to you before but nowadays Okay, good.
Speaker 1
10:35I'm just waiting to, oh, I still want to go through and make everything more Star oriented. I mean, I've tried to do that a little bit.
Michael Lubker
10:46The, the way you do these titles set up is pretty good. I like that.
Speaker 1
10:54I mean, I tend when I was reading through a star guide, it's it's the examples that give gives are like bullet points that are full sentences. And I've always like tried to steer away from that kind of try to make it more concise. Right. I don't know what the what the what's the consensus on that one is, like, I don't I tend to in my bullet points. Like I thought that was the point of a bullet point is that it wasn't a full sentence or a complete sentence.
Speaker 2
11:23Yeah, I think you're right. I think that if you can shortcut the language, it's good. I have one really big question. And that is, I'm wondering if you're not better off emphasizing the, the game production and leaving out the sales stuff. Because, you know, the sales stuff is it's not it's not fantastic, you know, you don't have any hit games there. So I feel like if you emphasize the skills that went into doing it and just leave the fact that they you know, they weren't, you know, viral hits or anything. I think that that would might that might come off as more impressive. You emphasize what you did instead of what ended up you know, coming
Michael Lubker
12:08out of it. Yeah, it's always a challenge
Speaker 1
12:12that goes well, because you're most of these don't make anything and that's why I think I think it's good but yeah, I can
Michael Lubker
12:23I mean, I understand where you're coming from, I would say it depends on like, if you're submitting this to in the US, they probably want that info, submitting it to AAA
Speaker 1
12:36company law. That's exactly what I was thinking just now. Yeah. So that's Yeah, I think that's great advice for for Yeah, if I'm going for like a not necessarily AAA
Michael Lubker
12:46but a non nd job yeah, yeah. If you're showing this with like a new client, then like they they they need to know this. Like what what to expect that type of thing. But yeah, a bigger company.
Unknown Speaker
13:04Yeah, like you definitely. Yeah, that might
Speaker 2
13:06be an impressive. Yeah, again, I'm just if you just give it some thought and see if there's any other kind of different ways of looking at even that stuff. So for example, when I had a pitch deck, and I had we had released a kind of a gamified app. And it I think we had like we're approaching like 4000 downloads or something like that. But it was the number two kindness app it if you if you searched kindness on the Play Store, it was the second thing that came up, okay. Like number two on the Play Store, even though it only had 4000. That
Speaker 1
13:46sounds much more impressive. Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. Little massage that
Speaker 2
13:51data a little bit more. Yeah, just to present it. In a way that seemed you know, more impressive. And I again, I don't know, like how much in these, you know, are going to look at that kind of stuff. I think that you know, if you say successful launch, you know, excellent reviews, whatever. I don't know,
Michael Lubker
14:06but that's just something to think about. It's also like Steam doesn't quite have the same type of thing as the app or the Play Store is what invalidly Go. But if you go to steam signed out versus signed in, then it's not your personalized results. So you're clued that see, like, where are things going?
Speaker 1
14:35On steam apps. I tend to do that quite often for a number of things. Usually what I'll do is I'll go look at things in incognito mode. So yeah, you're not you're just not signed in and you can take it out as a completely
Michael Lubker
14:46fresh user. Yeah. But sometimes I do get good data that way. But could be used for something like this
Unknown Speaker
15:07um
Michael Lubker
15:13I guess I know I know. You're like trying to keep her to one page but just for a more if you were doing a triple A lead some a follow up play like break out the associated credit titles will wait so that again for if you will doing a triple A version of the resume, you'd probably break out more information about
Speaker 1
15:47this part. Okay, okay. I searched more just add
Michael Lubker
15:51more to that. Yeah. Like, hey, you know, maybe you have one one page Who is this format for indies and then
Speaker 1
16:00one one page Yeah, that's that's what I was planning on doing at this point. Yeah, cuz,
Michael Lubker
16:04just for those. I've been talking to some folks that have like, you know, don't have like, because they've done football playing have they'll have like, for me, that's for production of estimate that's for QA, etc
Speaker 1
16:31Well, that sounds good. If you guys got any other quick ones. I don't want to take too much time for people who are actually here for the money and it shouldn't say that. But yeah, that's good feedback. I got notes here. I will definitely change some of those things and make a couple of them. If we want to move on to Sabrina I am good to go for that.
Unknown Speaker
16:57Gonna make sure I have my notes ready to take so this was insightful for me to.
Speaker 1
17:13Do so how did you do the columns here? Is this from some other program or is this in Word process?
Speaker 3
17:19Really? I start in Word and I make a table and then they mess with the margins. To stretch it out. I also can't really get d um, yeah, and then you just change the table lines to white, but I like to keep that one in the middle, block dark and then I just put an icon over it. But I also can't keep the alignment on the right, that looks good. It always looks off.
Speaker 2
17:52There is an easy solution to this and that's just go into the to the templates that that word has, you know you can get from word for free and just find it find one that already has all the formatting that you like. And then just can't change
Michael Lubker
18:06the text. Yeah. And I have used some of those artful times. Sometimes they are like you do better like you you find one that you think looks nice, and then you try to
Speaker 2
18:21go Yeah, no word where it has a bunch of stuff in it
Michael Lubker
18:25that are very frustrating. Yeah. But is stuff like Microsoft Publisher and stuff, but I don't know how ATS will tell you. There's like I always used to use puts up from Broderbund. But I don't know how he has been.
Speaker 1
18:47Well, that's what I was thinking about using a table can ATS parse from? I mean, because I guess once it's once it's in PDF format, it's not really recognizing the table. But that that would be something that would give me pause. It's like if it actually can reach into
Michael Lubker
19:02sales and pull out data from what some say. It just depends on how new way the ATL sales so like, it's really just you don't know what the company is using. So
Speaker 1
19:18yeah, what does it look like when you like try to highlight a section? Oh that's interesting. Can you grab just one word? Yes. Well, like in the skills can you even like just double click? Don't Yeah, don't don't swipe because yeah, okay. All right. That's that's what we're looking for that that's important right there. Because that's how ATS is going to do it. It's going to pull it
Malize Evans
19:51out a word at a time. I wouldn't like to be that person, but you're displaying a CV with a telephone number on it. It took me a little while to a while to realize it was a phone number
Speaker 1
20:01reduced to the plus one. But yes, I actually got a text from a recruiter the other day and I was like, Where do I have my phone number and I just realized that it was actually on
Speaker 3
20:12my resume at one point. I forgot. I forgot it when I gave it to you all know
Speaker 2
20:21I mean your your resume is beautiful. I'm curious how come you don't have any separators in the phone number? It's it's very difficult.
Michael Lubker
20:29To read a phone number. Let's Yeah, like that. Like the that's like the European way
Malize Evans
20:35to do a phone number. No. Dots. Yeah, we just separate this plus country. Then the first then
Michael Lubker
20:43three, three numbers, two numbers, two numbers. I do see some people on it all together.
Speaker 1
20:49But yeah, if I see that often enough that I don't think it would be a big deal if you were including it. But the one thing I'm going to point out first is that you do have that information in two places. So you don't want to double up I would keep it under the title their email, I would take out I would leave in your email, take out your phone number. And then And then yeah, so just remove that details from the left column and put it in the title section under there. Because you don't want to have it
Michael Lubker
21:17twice. That's that's wasted space. Yeah.
Speaker 2
21:23That's very impressive. I like that is our Are you currently
Speaker 3
21:26unemployed Sam? Yes. Um, so I I was laid off way back in the beginning and 2022 right at the end, and next bottom, let go of a lot of people. And yeah, at that time, I had no idea what was going to happen. I took I went back home to New Orleans and I took the first job that I could get. Which, you know, it was a it was a choice. It was interesting. I was there for about a year before I figured let me move out. I have some family in Chicago and I moved there and I've been since I moved back here at the start of the year. I've just been looking around and trying to find my next job back in gaming. But of course you know that started the year hasn't exactly been as hopeful as I was hoping it to
Michael Lubker
22:17be generally. I just saw Yeah, a lot of layoff post for me with
Speaker 1
22:21this morning. Yeah, we were hoping that a lot of that was gonna be last quarter sort of thing and then the first quarter of 2024 was gonna start picking up but fortunately it does not seem to be
Michael Lubker
22:35headed that direction. Also, did have somebody else join I just want to say hello. If you want to talk to me in the chat, or you know whether it be the download or thank you please do that. And we'll get to it once we've done this one.
Unknown Speaker
22:59Should you go by Sabrina
Speaker 3
23:00or Sam? I go back Sam. I keep forgetting to change my
Speaker 1
23:05zoom from Sabrina to Sam. Alright. So some feedback they often get people as the profile thing, you'll want to put that in a cover letter. So any kind of things discussing like what, what your ambitions are like kind of what your goal or what focusing on the specific job. Usually they're gonna have a cover letter so you want to save stuff about you for the cover letter. So it gives you more space. So it looks like this might be going over one page. And that's typically the feedback. You know, recruiter
Speaker 3
23:36is long. Yeah, yeah, so long, but I've made
Michael Lubker
23:40sure it was all one. Okay.
Speaker 1
23:41It's like a legal page. Yeah, it's almost like a legal page. It looks like so I mean, you want to try to keep that to your standard sides page as much as possible is keep in mind when you got to recruiter, when you actually get to a person. You got about 30 seconds of their attention. So you want to get to the meat of that information as quickly as possible. So you pull up the details. You pull up the profile that that moves everything up on the page. As far as your education goes, Are you what level of position are you looking for at this point? I'm level position. I like entry mid
Speaker 3
24:15level senior level. I'm headed more towards like a
Speaker 1
24:19mid to senior level role at this point. So when you're looking for a higher, higher seniority positions, skills, education becomes lower priority. So you want to move that underneath your skills. So once again, that your recruiters can be seen that first your skills first your employee, your most recent employment history first. It's gonna be right at the top of the page, and so they'll get to that quicker. Got it. Thank you
Speaker 1
24:52other than that, yeah, you're like bullet points. are very detailed. You probably want to get like I see at the bottom you know, you have numbers so remember numbers break things up, they draw the eyes so bam, first thing I see is all the way at the bottom is 92% satisfaction rate. Oh, wow. What's that? Oh 12 fortune 500 clients. We got 24 PCs. So try to put in more numbers in there because that's the kind of stuff that draws the eye and it's I guess now we see in the first one 80%. So that's good. But yeah, it breaks it up and it draws the eye and it follows that STAR method to actually show what have had it right here. What is the head of a tournament? Like guess results like actual figures for results that tell people a lot more than words
Unknown Speaker
25:45do sometimes.
Michael Lubker
25:50It's also interesting like, it seems like UX is kind of being treated loyal like because I actually see a lot of people like mentioning apprenticeships on sites. It's just interesting because most disciplines don't child the bat. A UX specialist or UX Oh, no. Like the the apprenticeship piece like I just find Oh, hey, yeah, because I've seen that specifically in UI and UX, but not
Speaker 1
26:38but not in that was that was that a paid position at Microsoft is that way it's an apprentice versus a an internship? Yeah. Nice. Good that you got the experience and got paid for it
Speaker 3
26:52the other way? Yeah, I got to work with turn 10 Studios too, which is how I got into like how I really got into gaming.
Malize Evans
27:00So it was a lot of fun. Well, I want to say I'm the only one who made a comment so far. And that's because I was picking your your portfolio line and some some design stuff that come pretty cool, by the way. And there's there is something that that I believe that you are You are surely failing, failing to do that can get wrapped the attention of hiring managers. And it's to start with you have even in regardless of what what is the nature nature of your professional experience, you have enough to not need to have the education such on top of everything and to be able to move it on the bottom. Education on top is one that's the only one you have or you just have one line of of experience. And then using this the spot to for some name dropping and here's the thing if you have these summaries of I am a person who does this and does that some recruiters like this, some don't like it. The other day, we had the recruiter at Bethesda commenting on CVS and he was the first to say that he didn't like he didn't like summaries. However, you have the capacity to do some name dropping, name dropping, meaning I worked in Minecraft. I work in Forza Motorsport, you know, and this kind of names pop the I make hiring managers take a second look at your CV. So I will put the location at the bottom of this column and then use this part to say I do
Michael Lubker
28:35this and I would appear here, here here. Yeah, all we had for me I think that was the last time or the time before where somebody had worked on like for the mods every but that's the title because they worked in QA and that was like quite the eye popping. Like Chile Chile is interesting cuz it's like kind of the neglected space but but the amount of credit for people Yeah, it's kind of crazy
Malize Evans
29:18Anyways, um, and yeah. Dropping is not just because it's because people assume that certain certain games such certain brands have quality level work. So you're saying with this, you're saying I have this quality level?
Speaker 1
29:35Yeah, yeah. I like to how do you think how do you suggest that would be formatted it would it be like Well, first of all, okay, you will probably wouldn't call it a name dropping section. But so I mean, it's like you're talking about a section separate from the employment history. We're like, worked with Minecraft work with X work with y we're gonna see
Malize Evans
29:56is that is that what you're saying? Like the summary, like the typical summary at the top of, of a resume, but it's sort of on the top on the part of where the location is and to move the location after the skills and in this spot, doing the summary but really short like I do this.
Speaker 2
30:17Is that connect go like with what Aaron said earlier that maybe that name dropping type things is for the cover letter.
Malize Evans
30:27The it depends because not not all hiring managers will be Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1
30:32I really liked the, the concept of that, I think. Yeah, format might be. So what I'm saying it's like, you just list the game. The names of the games and studios that would you work with or you're saying put a profile kind of like I did this for this game and that for that game?
Malize Evans
30:52Yeah, but you put you put just a small a small name dropping within the summary, but it's super short, super short, because also a lot of a lot of recruiters don't like the summaries, because poor people stuffed them with buzzwords that mean nothing. Yeah, but if you just say a sentence or two and then for the skin game game, I mean, what you give is 100% content that is interesting to read. Then fantastic.
Malize Evans
31:24Yeah, I was
Michael Lubker
31:26coming onto the set. Sorry. I was gonna show a resume that we had last time because they did some interesting things with the resume but I'm also pulling up the other two since doing so.
Unknown Speaker
31:49Okay, we're I'm sorry, I didn't realize run anyone
Michael Lubker
31:53asking? Yeah, just pulling up a couple. But
Speaker 2
31:57before we oh, these are old ones you're showing sorry. No, I know. I looked up from my from my keyboard and this and these other things. I didn't know. We're
Michael Lubker
32:07not finished with Sam's yet right? I'm not like I'm getting I was just wrapping up the other two people that just joined. But I did quickly want to steal like this. Fitzgerald we had in a PBS call and he like, had a very nice format. Of like all the protocols
Speaker 1
32:30that he had worked on. Yeah, when you have that many G's.
Malize Evans
32:36Oh, this is the QA guy. Yes, not
Michael Lubker
32:38producer. This is producer. Well, he started in QA and was working to try and find
Malize Evans
32:46the products and so on. Yeah. Okay. I'll make a couple of comments about the difference the difference in in Allegan how likely it is that he's killing me when we
Michael Lubker
32:56come back to fifth row where well that
Malize Evans
33:00this was just a resume that oh, he's
Michael Lubker
33:02not he's not here. He's from the other day. He was fun. The other day. I was just saying like, the way he showed his ship titles popped out.
Malize Evans
33:12Yeah. So
Michael Lubker
33:14I mean, it's a very clear way of doing it. Yeah, anything else was Sam. Before we get to the other
Speaker 2
33:21people don't know good luck. You should be employed.
Malize Evans
33:27Very sad time. Amp if it's better if you get if you volunteer for projects to keep sharpening your skills, and you have nothing to do with your time obviously prioritize money. Absolutely. Absolutely. If you can, if you can attend, attend satellite events of the GDC you can go you know meet more people you can get into unpaid projects short, that don't take you out of time but help you help you meet more people do so it's going to be good for you because sadly just
Michael Lubker
34:01sending out CVS doesn't work.
Speaker 1
34:04Yeah, oh jams are always in dire need of producers. FYI you know they very rarely think about that. So you know you can always get in on Jays Game Jam and offer your UX slash producer experience product design experience. There. You don't necessarily have to be an artist or a programmer kind of game.
Speaker 3
34:23Yeah, that's my biggest concern because I'm not a programmer. So I feel like I don't have as many skills that I could provide for such a short time span. But if I could at least help as a producer, which I
Speaker 1
34:35remember game jams are really sorry, you kind of cut out there and when you finished No, it's finished. Thank you. Yeah, game jams are notoriously poorly organized because they're like, you know, most of the time people jump in, right you know, you create a team at the start of
Michael Lubker
34:54the game jam and then just start going so somebody and then somebody jumps in halfway through. Yeah. Or somebody drops one of us.
Speaker 1
35:06Yeah. So I mean, they definitely can use
Michael Lubker
35:09producer assistance. We might go overboard on
Speaker 1
35:15getting more people than usual today.
Speaker 2
35:18We probably should kind of streamline I don't think there's much more to say Saturday looks really good again, I it's not you just remember it's not you
Michael Lubker
35:29it's the economy. Yes. And I'm here. I'm going to drop some links. That might be helpful if you're like looking for like ways to like work with indie projects or like build skill set. And I will also say in the game Academy has an event happening tonight. I actually got asked to be a judge. And what they do is a boot camp. And that basically it helped put together small teams. It is a paid boot camp. But basically what they do is put together in small teams, and help people create like a small indie game. But they actually have a demo day for the reverse talk for it. Tonight at 6pm Central. And join on zoom on what's the event? Actually sorry,
Unknown Speaker
36:42it's 530 not six.
Michael Lubker
36:45What timezone central time but I have to specify, yes, sorry about that. Yes, but all the links that I posted the IH TIG Solace is BS. Basically. It's interesting that you worked on line path, because Texo is actually well originally started. Well those are a lot of like games. That start on tic disorders or EPS apps that eventually make their way to steam or other platforms. And then game moves home. Is there a Startup Platform and like gaining ground right now, but they were kind of like a Fiverr or Upwork specifically for the game industry. So yeah, anyway, I will help to the next that's me. And yeah, thank you for sharing Selma. And I see we are connected on LinkedIn. So if there's ever any questions Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
38:08Thanks. For you. Bye.
Malize Evans
38:09Hello. Hello, Holguin. How are you? How's everybody I'm saying your name in Spanish in European Spanish is
Speaker 4
38:22Jackie Novocaine. Um, it's quite keen. Like that's how it's I've always said it. Like Joaquin Phoenix, please. I'm from Origins. I'm American proven so families are proven and have always said with that accent
Malize Evans
38:41Yeah, I never I never know. Faith people say to our kin, Kin because the public depending on where you're from, this sound is a little difficult.
Unknown Speaker
38:51It's been butchered so many times. Anything
Malize Evans
38:53counts. Okay. Well, thank you for joining us today.
Unknown Speaker
39:04Yeah, I saw it open. And I was like, okay, don't join
Michael Lubker
39:16or 
maybe you have that's too small. Let me know and I'll assume that it's too small. Okay, I was trying to for me, for me. I was trying to fit it all in but I guess just let me know. When
+1
maybe you have that's too small. Let me know and I'll assume that it's too small. Okay, I was trying to for me, for me. I was trying to fit it all in but I guess just let me know. When Speaker 4
39:36I switch your belt. Yeah, I've I've had a lot of difficulty trying to make it size correctly. And I don't have that much experience. Civil.
Michael Lubker
39:47Well, I mean, go ahead right here you have whitespace that your
Speaker 4
39:52folds up. I've spent I want to say five to 10 hours
Speaker 2
39:58trying to get that to not be solix space. Oh, are you in Word?
Speaker 4
40:02Are you using Microsoft Word? Ah, yeah. Yeah. It has to do with I think with the fact that the top part is in two columns, right. So that requires an extra sit like space.
Speaker 2
40:18Yeah, I can go into paragraph settings. You should if you select that area, go into the paragraph settings, you should be able to decrease that significantly. Okay. Also, you'll you'll get rid of some of it by just wordsmithing the top part which will be easy just to I mean, again, you're you're using very casual language you can this that that introductory paragraph is nice, it's very friendly, but it can be cut cut way down. So number one, you'll if if you if you cut it down then it's I mean definitely you don't need the need the extra word hanging at the bottom. But, but you've just you know, again, it's like you have your name there. If you said I'm an American Peruvian again, I don't know what that means. Why you're saying graduate, okay? Like if you're gonna say graduate, I kind of find I kind of want to know what, you know, graduate and what, you know, that kind of thing.
Michael Lubker
41:22But I'm not sure that
Speaker 2
41:26you're gonna have a summary like that. It could probably just get to the most
Michael Lubker
41:30important stuff really quickly. Your experience is quite interesting because I like doing stuff but not out in companies for the most
Speaker 4
41:43part. Yeah. It was like it wants to challenge but it was mostly just money, other internships and projects I was joining. Were just non game related. Because of the people I was ended up interacting at, like different events. So it was just a fun experience. Yes, sadly, it's not what I love in games, but it's still experience.
Michael Lubker
42:08Yeah. It's also like the US dollar acknowledgement that unity is being used more outside the gaming industry. What such poor I mean, it gives you a unique skill set in life
Malize Evans
42:30can you please go back to the summary, Michael? Yeah, I mean, the kind of games you play if this is something there's something for for a break ice conversation with a recruiter or the cover letter, for the cover letter, but not for the summary. That's the kind of information that you are wasting space, so to speak.
Michael Lubker
42:53Or something that's your community
Malize Evans
42:55manager. Oh, yeah, I agree here.
Speaker 2
42:59Unless you're a community manager. And we're keen and it could it can solve your formatting problem. If you go just to a single column, take that paragraph out completely and just put your, you know, email portfolio kind of underneath your name. Keep everything in one column that you don't have some of the formatting things and, and again, it sounds silly, but some of the formatting things like the bullet points that are hanging over without the indentation. It just looks unprofessional. And people are you know, if they're if they're going to differentiate you from anybody else. And this is kind of the people who have been hearing these reviews in the past are going to hear me say the same thing over and over again, and that's people's attention spans are so short, and they're so busy, that they're looking for any excuse to move on to their next resume. So you want to make sure that the bullet you know that it just looks really crisp and professional.
Michael Lubker
43:59I do like that you are going to more info about Potter
Speaker 4
44:08Yeah. Oh my thought process with especially. Yeah, the mean every word of it. The invitation are Yeah, I've been slowly trying to be working a bit more. It's, it's just something I'm learning with Word and for like linking. It was something like I was thinking, most people that are going to link see my resume might not notice my links on the top or might not subconscious might not notice them. So they as you're going through the project, oh, I want to see this specific one. I just link it to have an easier time finding instead of having to go through
Malize Evans
44:44my resume my portfolio here's the thing Well, first, I added some links in the in the chat, that the good one is the second. It's a list of resources from Harvard University to help you write your CV and your cover letter in the in the format that is most extended in the United States. In Europe also also works the same format to comment on this on this format thing about your about your CV. Second while while having the links of the projects you participated in, in the in the CV is a very good idea. You need to give people reasons to click as I said before, you have left very little time to get people's attention. And you have to give them a reason to click on the link and learn
Michael Lubker
45:31learn more about it. Michael, have you checked his links are they working? They do show up they didn't show up as only Yeah, cool. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yep, that's what I would say readability wise, it might not be the best totals.
Speaker 4
45:59Yeah, I are like before I joined this house, we're working on rewarding everything so that it's more compressed.
Michael Lubker
46:06Yeah, I would just also like I get the kind of making it look like old school. Commandline but I might like experiment with colors. Just to make sure readability. Also, I use dark mode the app and sometimes it messes with colors. So yeah.
Speaker 1
46:31Like Same here. I think a lot of people use dark mode these days and a lot of websites or providing dark mode options. So you got to keep that in mind when you're putting your colors and also, you can also keep in mind for the opposite way if you're it in dark mode. Remember that there are people who don't use dark mode and so you got to keep that in mind as well. So for example, you see how it got a lot darker, and now, without dark mode. It's
Michael Lubker
47:03actually harder to read. This text Yeah. So
Speaker 4
47:12yeah, I when making this I completely did not take in consideration dark moly. Somebody purposely changed it so I see about reworking
Michael Lubker
47:22it a bit. Yep. Yep. That's the usability question. What kind of funny even though it's a resume but okay. I saw your message Molly's
Michael Lubker
47:47to talk about specially on a Mac. Yeah. Um, how much longer can people stay? I just want to make sure that we're good. Cuz we're out but we have one more. Okay, testing, quiz. Let me drop you my LinkedIn. We can. We can connect if anyone needs to. Bob. Thanks yes, no problem. And I believe Sorry, I'm just so pebble I don't think I have your resume. Yeah. Did you?
Joaquin
48:41Maybe I missed it. I sent it to you in a DM. I'm like I can I can upload it into
Michael Lubker
48:49the chat again. Yeah, I like it.
Malize Evans
48:53Yeah, that's, I believe that show it before when you said I'm going to check
Joaquin
48:59on the resumes of people. Yeah, it was open in a tab. I
Unknown Speaker
49:03saw you open it
Michael Lubker
49:08that's me. Oh. Okay. Okay. I don't have headphones yet. Um, if blue if you want to drop your resume chat. But yes, let's get to the blue since you need to go.
Malize Evans
49:32So I'm going to say the obvious about about your resume with professional experience. Investigating various platforms will have stone optimizing its reach and performance. How much designer implemented in game shop products driving revenue growth,
Joaquin
49:47how much that so yeah, that's a tough one because I work closely with GI on that and that is very much not something we want to give competitors that information on particular reach and some ways that we quantify that data. So that that kind of puts me in. I'm not sure how to keep in the line of not putting out PII and personal information and actually like say like quantifying, like, the specific reach that I that these little bumps might
Malize Evans
50:21impact directly. No, I understand. I understand your point, but usually usually wouldn't when you want to hire someone you want to know, what's the impact as quantifiable as possible to make sure that you know, people just don't warm that seats, but they actually do things of impact. If you get what I mean. That's why it's usually said if you can quantify the better but also Yeah, I understand the police may not be very happy about it.
Joaquin
50:47Because it gets very persnickety
Malize Evans
50:48about their data. They get so totally understandable. They said like when you have a project in the A and then you ask well tell me the last thing you work in like
Joaquin
51:02okay, yeah, I worked on TLS top secret projects, and I was like, Well, I worked on this project. That sounds really cool. Keep telling me about it. Not
Unknown Speaker
51:13under threat of death. Yeah, yeah,
Michael Lubker
51:21I think we all Yeah, it's definitely a challenging one. So I also find it interesting, like, you know, how many people worked out both Microsoft and boys who come February
Joaquin
51:423. Now one company that was by design, I was very excited about the fact that like, I didn't want to leave Microsoft. I was like, Oh, they're buying blizzard. That's i That's a great time to switch over not not
Michael Lubker
51:55knowing what I know now in the future. So yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. I, yeah. I I am not real happy about
Malize Evans
52:13that. You know, well, I mean, probably probably you wouldn't you wouldn't have liked to do so. But game monetization designer usually is a very sought after position. So I I'm convinced that that place not is going to put your position out against it.
Joaquin
52:31No, I am very much convinced they are not interested and and their priority is in other places in monetization.
Malize Evans
52:39So really, because I've seen I've seen that to the to epic, and I've seen that too. I don't know what other company I read this morning on LinkedIn. That did they decide the same day thing they laid off someone from monetization. And then suddenly, they have the own one of the cases completely different project. And and the other case it
Joaquin
53:00was the exact same project does not exist anymore. Sorry. That
Unknown Speaker
53:05entire team is now gone. that hurts
Michael Lubker
53:13Yeah, I flutes from a play with respect them too, because I was quite a big player, both host stone and boy class and was quite interesting to see what happened with Warcraft a little more after the layoffs.
Speaker 1
53:35So Chris, I would remove the kind of the headline improvement drive results project delivery expert that's kind of something that you want for your LinkedIn profile. I mean, along with kind of the summary in general, that's kind of the general feedback that we give is you want to keep that sort of thing in a cover letter, because it gives you more space on your resume. And then the next thing I would change areas of expertise to make it skills because that's typically what people are familiar with. Looking for, and all those things that you have under there, you know, they fall into the skills category anyway. Usually, I don't think ATS would have a problem with it, but I would still put a skill set just because that's what the computers and the people are used to seeing. As far as
Speaker 2
54:21areas of expertise. Michael can you scroll down? How
Michael Lubker
54:24long is the resume? Yeah,
Speaker 2
54:27I 
was curious about that, too. So but yeah, because you know, for example, Christy few, I think the the skill section that Aaron's talking about with a little bit of formatting and wordsmithing you could probably get that down to three columns and you know, knock it down by a few lines. You got a little bit of too much whitespace in places can pull it together. You probably shouldn't couldn't get this onto one page. Awesome. Oh, experience that's kind of hard to see. I know. I did a resume a few years ago and it was like six pages long. I had no idea that people were on this like, shortlist better. And but I'm dating
+2
was curious about that, too. So but yeah, because you know, for example, Christy few, I think the the skill section that Aaron's talking about with a little bit of formatting and wordsmithing you could probably get that down to three columns and you know, knock it down by a few lines. You got a little bit of too much whitespace in places can pull it together. You probably shouldn't couldn't get this onto one page. Awesome. Oh, experience that's kind of hard to see. I know. I did a resume a few years ago and it was like six pages long. I had no idea that people were on this like, shortlist better. And but I'm dating Michael Lubker
55:10myself. I'm getting old. I mean, and then you have me it was 50. Thinking from like death like I'm a serial entrepreneur. How do I show that
Malize Evans
55:29I'm tougher that Christopher. The other day we have
Michael Lubker
55:31Sorry. Sorry. You Michael. Oh, I was just saying like in certain situations, and it's very hard to build a resume. That's true.
Malize Evans
55:43On top of that, Christopher, the end of that day, we had Shawn Guinea from Bethesda in international brand review, and he dropped a minimum of our mini bombs that Bethesda is going to open up positions shortly so keep an eye on Sunday Max.
Michael Lubker
55:57Yeah. He was. Yeah. And he's in the discord. Or sorry, the slack if you're in that
Joaquin
56:06game in the example. So if I haven't, that's like out there,
Speaker 2
56:11too. Thank you. Yeah. But no, go ahead. Chris. The other thing in terms of wordsmithing and this is a point that Aaron has made, you know, bullet points tend to be you know, should be, I think you can be more succinct. You got a lot of words in there. You can kind of use kind of shortcut language. No, just just getting in trying to get to the point and cut out any words
Joaquin
56:36you absolutely don't need. Okay. Thank you.
Speaker 1
56:40I 
really appreciate that. Yeah, and I know we already mentioned the whole use of the NDAs and stuff but just keep in mind numbers break it up a lot better than draw the eye. So let's conclude as much numbers as you possibly can, you know, but obviously don't put yourself in jeopardy.
+1
really appreciate that. Yeah, and I know we already mentioned the whole use of the NDAs and stuff but just keep in mind numbers break it up a lot better than draw the eye. So let's conclude as much numbers as you possibly can, you know, but obviously don't put yourself in jeopardy. Michael Lubker
57:01Yeah, also, just because like there are like quite a lot of different things. What type of progression are you
Joaquin
57:14Oh, I have a 10 o'clock now. I'm just kind of looking for really look for lead positions but I am going to I have to go though but thank you very much for all your feedback on trying to trim down on it.
Unknown Speaker
57:27I'll try to join the next one. Thank you. Okay.
Malize Evans
57:32Have fun, and I'm afraid I shall I shall leave you.
Michael Lubker
57:35I also meeting. Okay.
Unknown Speaker
57:38We're done right.
Speaker 2
57:39We have one more. Yeah. One more One. Luis. Are
Malize Evans
57:43you meeting with me? No, I
Unknown Speaker
57:45met with Michael.
Malize Evans
57:46Okay. All right. Then I'll stay and look after him with you. I'll draw your line when I'm sounds good. So you have a lot of fun. Sorry. Sorry, Pedro. Oh, now what now? I haven't gotten better than I can. And I didn't say I'm sorry better than I have to live. So I won't be able to take a meeting. But I leave you in
Unknown Speaker
58:11great hands.
Michael Lubker
58:14Thank you so much. Bye. Again, but Hello,
Speaker 5
58:22everyone. Nice to meet you all. This was actually very impromptu. I just had placed my kid to sleep and I saw LinkedIn posts and I said hey, let's learn. So here we are. Just for a little bit of context. I am a survivor of the riot calling. So this is the first time that I had to do a CV in a long time. So that's why it's I'm still a little bit shell shocked from the experience of the layoff. It's my first so I am living that James Franco meme. So that I'm still very much confused about everything and I took a shot. I saw you guys here so I said okay, so I think my CV looks like crap.
Speaker 2
59:06Let's learn how to do it better. Well, it's very impressive. Can you scroll down to see the length and
Speaker 5
59:13what's what's at the bottom just for a moment. It's a one and a half pager. Okay, I tried to compensate it to latest experiences as before pandemic to next after pandemic and I tried to place as much information as I could within the NDAs that I have when without disclosing either budgets or projects per se.
Speaker 2
59:33You're gonna hear me in the in these reviews, I say the same thing over and over again, but my master's degree is in writing. So, again, it's really a matter of wordsmithing you've got a lot of words and you can just cut you know, cut to the chase. You know, it's you know, let's say implement a grant guidelines. I say it's so yeah, there's this small words in there implemented brand guidelines. It could be supported direct. Creatives initiatives for 50 Plus agency partners. Again, there's stuff there that I think one of the things that I think people miss is that a resume is really getting your foot in the door. And so although the longer discussion can take place once they interview you, so the thing is, is you don't want them to stop after the first couple of bullet points going oh my god, I'm reading too much. So I you can definitely get this down to one page. Your ear what you have here is really I mean, I'm like again, I keep keep we keep seeing resumes and I'm like dashed the world sucks because these people should all be employed. But yeah, so that's my main thing is just go through and just see if you can get to the point very quickly. And just get you know, just get the thing that says okay, he's doing this kind of thing. And that gets you in and then when you talk you get into the you know, to the to the interviewer, then you
Speaker 5
01:01:01go into the details. Yeah, 100% I hear what you're saying. I admit that I'm not a big wordsmith. I'm refraining myself heavily to go into an AI and say please shorten this for
Michael Lubker
01:01:14me because I mean, I have actually done about you know, I do. Yeah, I might
Speaker 1
01:01:25be useful. Yeah. I'm a huge proponent of using AI to write your cover letters to kind of rewrite your resume. But not by itself. It's not like send it into AI that you have to go through and make it real. Yes. But yeah, let definitely utilize those tools because they do save you a lot of time because they do a lot of the bulk work for you. And then you can go in and like change the details and
Michael Lubker
01:01:50make it sound like a human and not an AI Yeah, that's also another one that I used. Called geek. I will just make sure that this point in one moment.
Michael Lubker
01:02:13Yes, um, I believe, I'm just checking to see. Yes. Okay. So it is an AI but that's a little bit different. For like, specifically for, like wood smithing wood to turn that on. And that's, yeah, definitely works, but
Unknown Speaker
01:02:42that seems interesting. Now keep in mind
Unknown Speaker
01:02:47word two. Yeah, it was first time seeing it
Speaker 5
01:02:54I'll give it a go. I admit that I I thought of it really deep had like discussions with myself whiteboard level discussions, but I was really, really scared of the effect of not being able to read humanize it, you know, and that the recruiter will run background problem saying is this church CBT or AI done and that it would be caught. So I prefer to take a little bit of the risk of okay, less, less best, more human but I completely understand what Greg is saying, I myself read my, my CV and was like, so this is a book what a book we want, just do it by Nike,
Michael Lubker
01:03:34right? Yeah, yeah. Um, also another thing that's kind of like ideals that I have been getting. Reviewing so many resumes. Ils is trying to figure out ways to allow people to show stuff more visually or, you know, I, I have the idea and I'm trying to figure out how they implement of the booths job, where it's like, the people have the booths, and we could do is have to walk. But we'll see where that goes. It's just an idea for everything starts with that. Yes. To
Michael Lubker
01:04:36Well, thank you guys. I'm just checking to see if I have any moments
Unknown Speaker
01:04:43and
Michael Lubker
01:04:46try to I mean, what, what what type of position are you looking for,
Speaker 5
01:04:51at 
this stage? Anything within publishing or marketing, project leadership or creative marketing project? I mean, it's a wonderful thing nowadays in gaming is that people have cut down the creative muscle or outsourced it heavily. So what I I'll just say like this, because it's what I used to say when people asked me to explain what publishing creative lead was at Riot. I'm a creative maker wish you have a creative wish and make it happen. You just give me a budget, the timeline and the desire and it will appear within budget within time. That's it. And
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this stage? Anything within publishing or marketing, project leadership or creative marketing project? I mean, it's a wonderful thing nowadays in gaming is that people have cut down the creative muscle or outsourced it heavily. So what I I'll just say like this, because it's what I used to say when people asked me to explain what publishing creative lead was at Riot. I'm a creative maker wish you have a creative wish and make it happen. You just give me a budget, the timeline and the desire and it will appear within budget within time. That's it. And Speaker 1
01:05:29I love my job. When you say Marketing Manager for Portugal, it's like, like for the country of Portugal, or is that something in
Michael Lubker
01:05:39like? No, no, I mean, like, territory
Speaker 5
01:05:42manager? Yes. So I will Okay, I see. I was effectively marketing director but since there was a marketing director for Iberia, I wasn't allowed to use that title. So I had to turn it down to marketing manager because if I had marketing director for Portugal,
Speaker 1
01:05:56it 
would make much more sense. I would just put, maybe, I don't know Portugal region has legs. I just immediately looking at that. It's like so did this guy work for the country of Porter. That's That's what first come to mind. So I would try to put I don't don't really know what have you put them out or try put something else to make sure that clarifying that it's like for the Portugal region of the game or something like that. I don't know. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I know that
+1
would make much more sense. I would just put, maybe, I don't know Portugal region has legs. I just immediately looking at that. It's like so did this guy work for the country of Porter. That's That's what first come to mind. So I would try to put I don't don't really know what have you put them out or try put something else to make sure that clarifying that it's like for the Portugal region of the game or something like that. I don't know. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I know that Unknown Speaker
01:06:25there's something that might be needed. I get what you're
Michael Lubker
01:06:27saying and I'll I'll adapted to that. So on the OPPO was a was a was a cell phone company, that's
Speaker 5
01:06:35what I was thinking I yes, they make those beautiful devices like this except they're made in China and they charge really, really fast. So the popular stall Apple's OS and had batteries that charge in 30 minutes. You get up
Michael Lubker
01:07:01Yeah, it's not really an act of doing that in
Unknown Speaker
01:07:04the US right now.
Michael Lubker
01:07:06Yeah, I know. I know. I've heard of them. But yeah.
Michael Lubker
01:07:16Interesting. So you've been like in games being mobile being like eSports. I got eSports in London for some
Speaker 5
01:07:29interesting I've done the funnel route. So I started on agency doing everything. And I honed it down to tech, and then I finally managed to hone it down to gains.
Michael Lubker
01:07:45Well, anyone have any other questions?
Speaker 1
01:07:48Or do you have any questions? Yeah, it looks really good. Yeah. Just try to consolidated down to get it. More recruiter slash hiring manager friendly. Keep in mind, they're there. When you have it on to the second page. They're very likely not likely to even get to your second page. You got 30 seconds they're going to be going probably about to halfway through your first page. So that's where you want to have
Speaker 5
01:08:14the most important information. So let me do this reverse and let me throw a question at you guys. Because you have this experience. One of my biggest fears is that well, as you can see, I was eight months in at Riot which is let's face it, not a very amount long amount of time. But given a company with the size of right, it's enough time for you to do a whole lot of stuff. One of my one of the fears that I have with my CV right now is that people look at what I have right and say
Speaker 1
01:08:41This guy was just there for eight months. It don't include months, just do the years. That's a very good way to start. doing that. I mean, you know, it's more senior level position. That's okay. I wouldn't I mean, like if that's what you're concerned with, I would not include July to February just 2023 to 2024 the clarify that for them in some in an interview, exactly how long you were there, and then you can qualify it with what you were just telling us you know, that you do a lot in a few months at a major game
Speaker 2
01:09:10developer like that. Thank you. And it's probably even more important because the same applies
Michael Lubker
01:09:15to the OPPO position too, right. Yeah. Nine months. One, one other thing is like, way to cut things down. It was like feature in one position with like, five bullet points and then the rest are free.
Speaker 5
01:09:38Okay, thank you. That That makes a lot of sense.
Michael Lubker
01:09:45But 
you do use the study malfa, do you have some metrics? Metrics are always good if you have Yeah. I will connect with everyone who has been on the call and send out a report and so
+1
you do use the study malfa, do you have some metrics? Metrics are always good if you have Yeah. I will connect with everyone who has been on the call and send out a report and so Speaker 5
01:10:12sorry, my dog's my baby decided to wake up and oh, he's at the computer.
Speaker 1
01:10:18Yeah, otherwise, it looks it looks really good. Just keep it up. You have good experience.
Speaker 5
01:10:23You know, make sure you get when you get interviews. Thank you guys for
Speaker 1
01:10:27your time and for your availability, your well. Don't make sure when you get interviews, like don't volunteer things like Oh, I was only there for eight months. If they asked the question, go for it. But otherwise focus on what you did. And not how long you were there. Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
01:10:44Good luck. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
01:10:45Thanks, guys.
Speaker 5
01:10:47We're in Spain. Are you Pedro? Barcelona right now. Okay.
Unknown Speaker
01:10:50So, Barcelona to
Speaker 5
01:10:53the one who the person who just left. I know, I know. No. She's going to Mobile World Congress. I believe I'll be there as well. So maybe we'll bump into each other. And yes, we I haven't seen rain in like, six months. So it's just sun every day. I don't know how these people are unhappy
Speaker 1
01:11:10because it's just the sun every day. Well, what is Barcelona supposed to be like Seattle or something?
Speaker 5
01:11:17It's the rain there all the time. Well, nobody should be balanced because it's Mediterranean weather. So it should be a copious of the 265 days of the year that exists. 100 of them should be rainy. And now right now it's really really unbalanced because it hasn't rained in December. It hasn't rained in January. So it's weird. It's fairly. I'm
Speaker 2
01:11:41getting a Texas vibe here. Well, it's funny because we're in Texas. And damn cold here. Okay. It's 80 degrees today. Oh, I haven't been I haven't I haven't been outside today, but it's been. I came from I mean, I left la just in time just before the massive rains
Speaker 1
01:11:58so I'm feeling happy about that. My outside thermometer actually says 90 Right now although okay. It is
Speaker 2
01:12:05staring right at the concrete. You haven't been outside. I'm going outside the moment this call is over.
Speaker 4
01:12:12Vitamin D. Yeah. Okay. Winter I'm already in summer. It's only 96 is
Unknown Speaker
01:12:20doing it is it is going to fry
Michael Lubker
01:12:23off the map. That's what Texas Yeah. It's crazy weather in February considering like, like we had freezing temperatures at the beginning of the week. And now we're
Speaker 1
01:12:37at 90 degrees. And it's there's still gonna be one more freeze in March and always happens everybody always plants too early and then complains that their plants sides because it's in Texas. It's like it's 90 degrees now. We're still expecting less than 32
Unknown Speaker
01:12:50in a couple of weeks. Yeah.
Joaquin
01:12:53Wow, that's,
Speaker 1
01:12:54I guess, right. I guess it's everybody. 40 degrees Celsius. Now and we're still expecting lessons for free European guys.
Speaker 2
01:13:05I'm running. I'm leaving. Good luck to everybody later. Great. All right. Talk to you soon. Bye bye.
Michael Lubker
01:13:13Yeah, oh yeah. I will. I will link up with a good buddy and send
Speaker 1
01:13:21you guys recording. Thanks, everybody for joining. Hopefully, you guys can make those changes and get some interviews. Let us know Pete please, please be sure to like follow back up
Unknown Speaker
01:13:33with us and let us know how it's working.
Michael Lubker
01:13:36Did you guys do this every week. You're also thinking of maybe doing a second one. I'm not sure yet. I've been like starting to gather feedback on like, yep, we need more of this if we need another topic February. But I am working on the like kind of a community ramped up so
Speaker 1
01:14:04y'all have a good one I do actually need to take off now to me never make sure my Wink it's up there for LinkedIn. Please.
Speaker 4
01:14:14Connect with me. Connect. We do good luck, everybody. All right. Anything else or not? Yeah. Oh, okay. This will be I just don't know. I might just work my stuff so it's better.
Michael Lubker
01:14:40Okay, well, have a good day. Yeah, I will drop out like to everyone
Unknown Speaker
01:14:48via LinkedIn. Good luck.