And so our strategy has zero hazardous waste removal. Right that's important in our emissions are equal to burning natural gas. We're very clean energy and we're getting rid of the biggest issue we're getting rid of all of the waste streams.
It almost sounds like it's magic and too good to be true. It sounds like the internal sounds like the perpetual motion motion machine. But this is true. Now, how do you know it's true? Have you seen it?
Have you lobbying it started? Eight years ago, probably one of my biggest customers came to me and said, I need you to find a source of energy. It's complemented. Sustainable, but you know, somewhat similar to using fossil fuels. It gets me off of fossil fuel.
Let's hold it right there. I want to include calls here they're gonna be with us for the hour and if you call right now, you can make a comment on this. I think we have a sort of a grip I understand how it works, after reading it and talking to these guys for the last couple of weeks. But if you have questions, it's 33072999773307299977. And we're talking about something that is going to be cutting edge for the city of Youngstown and for the entire area. If you'd like to make a call. We'd love to hear enhance pyrolysis today. And before I go to the calls, I was taking that segment that you've actually seen this system operate. operated. That's correct. In Germany, and you own the rights to it here. Yeah,
I own exclusive operating rights to feedstocks,
feedstocks, okay. You can build this machine. This is German technology, and you're going to build it here in Youngstown.
I won't build it but star manufacturing, which is a local firm here, just outside of Youngstown, what's your confidence level
that this is going to happen? 1,000% that this is going to happen. 100% of your 1000 1000 put the headphones on the sticks and coals. Alright, as Dave Farrell and his partner here. We've got Matt, Matt's the guy that brought me about this and he and I were sitting down in here he is Mayor Chema do xianning Mayor Jim minutiae Yanni what has drawn you out of the woods today
exciting times for the valley, especially foundations March 11 2020. From day one, it's going to happen. First step was to become the owner, and we're excited. So he's talking about any numbers but directly from a $9 million facility. Salary 7 million I believe, are somewhere in a range of money. But it's exciting to create jobs. Pyrolysis and Yosei pyrolysis but anyhow, God resists all attorney Mark Mangie. We've been talking about pyrolysis for five years, probably and we've talked to people in Germany and are actually doing it. Then we met on March 11 2020. And here we are today. Exciting times I think that helped these guys a little bit. Youngstown guy was former football player knows a lot of people as well in the valley and I just walked through some of the things that I know and BYU and
what's going to happen in Lowellville was Lowellville fit into this
shredding operation is going to be we're excited about it. We got reformer site 366 acres, the former Sharon Steel site will have operation on it. We're real exciting, but they'll probably go more into details but we're excited to welcome Dave to the valley.
Well hang on. Hang on, let me let me pick up here.
Ya know, we're excited about Lowellville They have a lot to offer. It's land that's right on the rail, which will be important for us to be able to move by directionally shipping our byproducts out and receiving tires and plastics at the site. So our recycling facility will be immobile will shred there and they will move the shredded material to Youngstown for consumption. That way we don't have to bring a lot of traffic into the downtown area. Why Louisville? Well, its strategic location. It's already zoned properly for us has really good rail access. And I liked the vision of the mayor has for the village of Lobo and I like to be a part of it. So Jerry had his vision and our vision. They just kind of go together
so you have enough rail rail to bring this into the area to unload the tires and shred them there. And then you'll transport the material back downtown Youngstown.
Yeah, we have a logistics partner Porter logistics that we'll use to move the shredding materials Youngstown, Jim this is a this is
a home run.
We've had many companies come to the valley the difference between Dave's already running and running two years now. It's the managing it and they're here. They're real. They're actually doing the job. Pyrolysis technology and number one facility right here in the valley in Youngstown and Rowville we're excited about it and make his company and that is for so much for what they're doing and they're bringing their belly and bringing this technology what they're doing with wise you I think they might add a little bit to that.
It's we're excited. It's about the right technology. We found the right technology partner with CHC technologies that you checked the boxes. So when we started looking for the technology, we put a list of criteria together that would satisfy our equation. There's the technology that checked all the boxes for us and so that was important. And then, you know, we didn't take it in good faith that you could do what they said it could do. We went to Germany with him and oversaw an operating facility for a week on tires. We did. We hired companies to validate gas
competition. We got to this segment but Jim if you will tell me what is in store for law Ville if you could, you could just tip your hat on what's going to happen there.
Yeah, well we're gonna see a real exciting go in date has been in contact with the high commission girl saying we'll come right off the Norfolk Southern line right off the street from the department society you know, we built the road. Capital road was second half because funded is going to be a vital part of Dave Davies your 1.2 million driveway but it is road right to it. There's no development costs from his and we're gonna have a facility there that's going to create jobs and traffic which we need to sustain everything else we want to do in the village and make that Waterstreet great streets. And they've just a part of the commercial side creating jobs where people could live, work and play in Whoville as part of our vision and our goals. Were just couldn't be more excited.
Thanks so much for calling as our first call right out of the box here. How much is that? Capital expensive? Lowville approximately?
It's around nine $10 million. The shredding technology, the prefab steel buildings,
some of what we see that happen to have a target date. Yeah,
it'll we're looking at hopefully six months. There's a young to be completed in that area.
Hang on, but I thought our lines are foolish and you think this topic is really back in a minute. Over here on the left of crops from here, we have Matt PROLOGO. And we are talking about enhanced pyrolysis. And here's something that is very important to understand. These folks are making energy out of a plastic bottle out of tires. And the big difference between regular pyrolysis and what you don't make, don't
make oil. Our primary objective is to make a clean gas with zero hazardous waste from a clean gas.
And the gas would be what could it be used? Could it be used for anything that natural gas is used for? Yes, so we could be an energy provider here in the Mahoning Valley because you're not going to need all of this you're going to have more capacity than just the Youngstown thermal.
I'll use I'll use all the gas on production at the Youngstown site for the purpose of chilled water. But as we have other projects, those projects are very diverse. We'll be making electricity in some cases. And so each project has its own goals
and objectives. This is project number one out of how many do you have on the board? We have about 25 right now. 25 And they would do the same thing. Yes. And they would get rid of tires and waste and plastic. That's something it's amazing folks, when you open your ears a little bit and listen to what can be very State Senator Mike Rowley, calling it Hello Mike.
Dan, how you doing? Good morning, Matt. Good guys. Good. This is wonderful conversation we got going early on a Monday morning.
Dave Farrow is with us too. Mike.
How you doing? Brother from you again.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I'll tell you what I'm thinking. This is how capitalism deals with environmentalism. So exciting, folks. I mean, are you listening with these guys are saying this is a blowhards on TV 24/7 saying we're saving the world when they let India get away with everything and let China get away with everything and they let Russia get away with everything. where the rubber hits the pavement, actually saving the environment with capitalism. To me that's a dream come true.
When I heard about this technique, I was with Matt a couple of weeks ago and he was talking about it and I always go, that sounds good. I've heard people talking about this for years. And then I met Mr. Farrow here and I go, wow, he's already done it. And the big thing is about he's reliable, because he told me go downtown. And CVC steam seeping through the roads. It's no longer same get through it right. But
it was something that I was hoping that more people in the downtown area elected officials per se would notice that
they will they will hopefully, but Mike I gotta tell you what, this is something that we could be you know, cutting edge for the rest of the world in a lot of ways. Good way.
Absolutely. Absolutely. I was really, I think, are we okay with
that all done? Yes. It was finished last week. Thank God.
That was I think just so you know, Matt and Dave, they live. I got to two jobs. They get busy but I get updates on these guys. They never stop. They they pursue this 24/7 DNA it's a labor of love for these guys. And it just, to me, that thing is a reality and saying that they're taking things that could have been discarded into landfills and all these other different things and they're turning them into energy. I mean, it's almost mind blowing.
It is and then finding out that they're not going to make oil when oil is verboten for most people, they don't want that carbon and these guys are making natural gas, which is a clean burning fuel already. And we're taking away something that I thought about for years, Mike is that you're getting rid of that plastic bottle that we have made is contains energy. It should not be in a landfill. It should all be recycled and all of these plants to use almost any kind of plastic right all seven
forms spoke about landfill. In general landfills used a landfill for biodegradable. Now our landfills especially in this area, saturated with plastics and rubber eliminates the purpose of landfill this technology is able to clean up landfills, not just locally all over the place. It's it's able to take all of that waste that we have laying on the side of the road in the ocean, you know that Ireland.
The little plastic things that go on top of the beer six packs of beer that the older you recycle, and it shouldn't be recycled. You know, I think about this man. And Dave and you guys are one of the first people that ever come into our program that you've already got things done. Right. You're in process and you have you say this is going to happen. Mike that's got to be exciting for you and I know you've helped these people. And you had the question about the PUC. Oh, because they are now a public utility. Right. Well, Mr. Rogan, I
want you to think about something real quick. So when you look at Texas, you know, they were talking to them when they had the blackouts. And they had the energy problem. In Texas only about a month or two ago. With these guys are doing Harry's down in South fields, which is in Wellsville, Ohio, which is part of my lower district. They're converting natural gas at Southfields. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think it's 1200 megawatts they're producing every day that's a million homes that are giving electricity to their homes. These guys over Youngstown thermal I mean, they're they're actually taking things that would actually destroy the environment and they're turning them the energy and this is an Ohio this isn't the cutting edge of the future, you know, renewables. But, but it is and these guys aren't getting the headlines. They're not getting the big ticker tape parade. But these guys are doing yeoman's work. And they're made like you said, How many times do you have a guy that comes in actually, after it already happened? Most guys are coming in there because they gotta pitch you know, they're trying to get something out of it. These guys already did it.
And you know, I hope the next thing is, is that they get more business because downtown, many of the folks out there that make those decisions will see that. Okay, Youngstown thermal is no longer leaking. They are reliable. They're heating Premier Bank, they're heating, courthouses, and many places down there, they're going to heat Youngstown State and cooling and I hope that they get a lot of credibility from the show.
Well, it's no longer Youngstown. So basically so so you know, the change in name is a change in direction. The direction we're going is renewable, continuous, sustainable energy. So that provides community low cost energy, creates jobs and gets a good environment for the future. Mike,
Mike, anything else?
Well, I think I agree with everything he just said. And I urge every business to switch over to these guys. I mean, you know, put your money where your mouth is if you care about the environment and you care about Youngstown. These guys are bringing you know, Matt, Matt's been in touch with me the whole way through and the guy's incredible. You guys can switch your business over them and make it happen. It's amazing.
The courthouse on this delta there. Okay, that'd be something because of county building but no county buildings. But isn't there a savings to you?
There's there's a good opportunity for the courthouse. And I think it's time that we save
taxpayer money. Okay.
Sounds like I might have to traffic Kenny for a lunch there, Dan.
Oh, I don't know. I don't think he would go to lunch with you.
Alright, guy, you know, they're not all bad.
He's a good day. All right. Thank you very much. Bye. Bye 70. A lot of folks calling in here today about this technology and I want to restate the program here today on our program here today. We have so they are providing the chilling and the heating for downtown Youngstown and other places St. Elizabeth's are to get out that far.
We're in discussions with them, okay, their hospitals so that conversion is going to take some time. Okay, but you have the ability
to extend these Oh, absolutely. And they have a system called advance pyrolysis. And what they're going to do, in essence, is bring tires in the Lowville. They are going to shred those tires, with the steel belt and all they're going to transport that to Youngstown. And then with this advanced pyrolysis, they're going to create something similar to natural gas, and they're going to be able to heat the downtown and of course, the excess that they would use. I mean, it could be used in a lot of different ways, and possibly used for more natural gas around the country mean if we use more or just more power, larger city, more power,
I think you know, when you look at it, it's really important to understand that you don't get where we are on your own. Nobody does. We have a solid team. And the team started with the technology. You know, it's you got to have the technology and CHC discovered this technology. And once we discovered ch Z that was really important relationship for us. So the technology is the enabler and then it's understanding how to execute in the United States with this type of technology. Chc ch ch Z technologies. German company. No, it's a it's a US company. Are these admirals, the president of that company? They have a very diverse group of individuals have a tremendous amount of skill, talent and experience in what one guy worked for NASA and the other guys at GE had
it happen to you because your customers and you're already an energy guy. They asked you to find a sustainable energy. Yeah,
they asked me to find this technology
and then we found each other
Yeah, Matt, Matt and I kind of stumbled across each other. You know, just, it just all worked out. Things happen for a reason.
I wanted to I wanted to, I wanted to thank you Cody has been a staunch supporter from the beginning. Supported everything you understood, because you had a little background. We actually met you know, coming from the Valley I was kind of taken this anywhere in the world. Okay, because he's he's all over the place. I kind of convinced him, he convinced himself when he went down to the plant and kind of took a tour of it, but you know, Youngstown to me. I see the upside of Youngstown. I see where we're located at. There's such a there's such great growth here. I just wish some other people could see it. No, no, I think they're stuck in their ways. But I think we're we're located at in between Cleveland and Pittsburgh, New York, Chicago and in the center of the population. We
got got a couple of courts. You gotta get out of here. First of all, what's the capital building downtown or how much you're going to spend on building a plan? It's about a $40 million upgrade. Is that financed? So you're not
we're finalizing the gaps there.
Another question, Dan. The technology sounds great. What are the byproducts or waste products from this? So
with tires, we'll have steel, which obviously is a very liquid commodity, and the other commodity is carbon black. And our Carbon Black can be used for tires. They can go cradle to grave with the tires.
What form the Carbon Black is that comes out in a powder in a powder pelletize and pelletize it and then you send it back to the tech companies, either them or the plastics. Okay. And that is a profit stream for him.
Very, very liquid.
This gets better doesn't this gets better? Just to really talked about specifics.
With the elastics we have a steel plant here in Youngstown. They buy a lot of cool. So
almost every damn, here's some steel belts a byproduct or is it scrapped? Does it become carbon?
Now the steel is steel was solid back to the steel industry.
Also you separate the steel black out Yes.
Is that before it goes into the exam goes through the system. The rubber is gasified and what comes out is a carbon black and steel separate the steel and carbon black. We pelletized the carbon black cell that
give yourself a steel back so everything is another thing. Oh my gosh, this girl hazards we talked you talked about being good to move to Mother Earth right?
Think about the caption the embodied energy is one part. But the other part of this technology that's really beneficial is it takes less energy for us to make the carbon black and the steel to read to recapture that than it does to make the Virgin production of carbon black and steel. So this is a co2 offset. It fits well with the current administration's agenda.
Well the time has gone by so quickly that I want to get these callers on here that are called here, Jeff and Canfield. Jeff, your turn. Good morning and welcome to the show.
Good morning gentlemen. I also give thanks to who mentioned mark would have been involved in the project at MIT alive now. We had studied this for about five years. We started working on as to say five years ago. Liverpool was interested in doing it and so there was a there's a lot of things going on with this. I will be definitely looking closely around this thing because when I heard of it, it was fantastic. And the carbon credits are gonna be out there. Gentleman's you're
absolutely right. They have nowhere to go but
somebody's got to do it. Because it is needed and it's needed for the environmental concerns and everybody does. God bless you all and hope to meet you.
Thank you. Alright, I'll come back and I'll give you the show in five minutes. in five minutes
I'll say that word here because it's a it's a tongue twister but Dave Farrow is with us from Solvay and Matt PROLOGO from Sobey and they're on the video today and I'm not good to have you guys along. If we get better or just shaved and hear what's going on, it's the holiday of a holiday now bring that microphone up to where I told you real close, and they bring the whole thing up make it comfortable for you there. And as you see Dave he's he's done ESPN so he knows what's going on. Right. Well, tell me a little bit about it. Number one, you are the owner now of advanced normal. Yeah, the final approval was given to us last week
Public Utility Commission. We now have the ability to close on the loop, which is the steam and heating cooling loop that provides heating and cooling to the downtown area. And so it's been a two year process to get to this point. But a lot of work on our part to ready the system for the future. And you now have a utility,
utility and you have been given been cleared by the Public Utilities Commission as a utility, correct. And approved by the Attorney General's office
as well as the local magistrate
and math. What are you doing?
You're just clipping coupons here. You're watching
we want you that for everything going on down there. What's your what's your job? Well, I'm kind of like the facilitator.
I kind of I'm helping you navigate Youngstown valley
the political contacts. You know, wherever you need to get the ground smoothed over. That's kind of where we're at coming into play and helping with business development, because I know right now, it's been a lot of hard work to this point. But what we're going to what we're gonna encounter in the next couple years is going to be really hot. Very, very excited about bringing folks is this the story here.
First of all,
let's talk about Youngstown thermal. This company has been they've got a great history. Yes. Give me Give us a brief history of it. Well I mean, it's been it's been around for a long time.
It may be the oldest thermal plant in the United States. Possibly. Arguably, what what
they do is they provide heat and cooling for much of the downtown and there's a look at that. They're not they can't be right. Yeah, there's quite a history. The system used to be a power facility
used to take water off to generate electricity. And so now, in 1947, it was converted to a coal plant
and operate on coal up until 2015 2016 was just started like nobody knows anything about this they create
steam, right, right. And they and they use this to for boilers, and they can make, they can air condition and they can also provide heat for the downtown. And some of it seeps out and seeps out through the streets, doesn't it? Well. Not anymore. Yeah. When we took
it over. There were quite a few leaks in the road and I think the downtown joke was the subway system. It wasn't their Steam was everywhere. So snow, we don't have the steam coming out of the streets. No, no long, no
longer so that was also a selfish thing to do here because you would have to save the leaks. Right? Well, it's it's, I guess it's
selfish, but it's also part of the strategy
so first, you have the capability of heating and cooling most of the downtown. Yeah, I can eat any facility. And you also cool Youngstown State. Excel state is the historical client as
you know, they've built their own boiler system, but they've agreed to rejoin our system. We've got some, some work to do to demonstrate that capability, but their strategy is cost savings, operational benefit efficiencies. And so we're going to demonstrate Premier Bank meeting. Okay, so we
actually have a lot of heating and cooling going on downtown and the system has been upgraded. You've been you've owned it for I haven't owned it for very long. We just
got the approval, but I've been managing it for two years. And you have taken it from coal to natural gas. Yeah,
it was taken from it was on coal, wood oil
and natural gas from the previous ownership, and I removed the coal and oil because it was operational. So now it's totally natural
