Yeah, so I think when I'm thinking specifically of what are some of the approaches that counselors could take, or ways that they can be inclusive, again, making sure that it is obvious that you are affirming and inviting people who hold these identities into the space rather than just assuming they'll be able to pick up on it? Because you're thinking about folks who are having to navigate dis affirming contexts in lots of different ways. So if they're in LGBT spaces, is their age affirmed? Is it accessible, we know that there's a greater intersection with disability and aging? Again, not all older people have disabilities. But we know that as physical health changes over time, we just tend to age into having disability experiences, or they follow us across the lifespan. So also being aware of if I'm saying I invite LGBTQ older adults into my space, is it accessible? Can they get in the door? Can they get in my office? Are they going to have to take stairs? Is there an elevator, these little things that I think we should always be conscious of, but feels especially important if you're intentionally inviting folks who are more likely to have that experience into the room? Another thing to think about? Is, is telehealth an option for you. We know that telehealth is a really great way for counselors to get around barriers to care that older adults experience and that includes LGBTQ older adults. Now, if you're going to do that you might do some additional digging around are they in an affirming environment where they could talk about their sexual orientation or gender identity without fear? We talked before about Senior Living contexts being pretty disarming for many people. So if they're in a senior living apartment building, for example, and like use the computer room downstairs, is that a safe place for them to talk about their gender or their sexual orientation? If they were to be overheard, you might need to do some exploration there that you wouldn't do with someone who didn't hold these identities, in terms of intervention, or ways that people can work well with this population. Unfortunately, there are very few evidence based interventions available even when you look outside our discipline. So social work probably has the most research on this population because of Karen Fredrickson Goldson, who does like all the research in this area, she's great, everyone should read some of that work. But so much of it is just documenting what happens for this population, rather than what can healthcare providers do to support mental health in this population? Psychology would come in second. But similarly, it's been pretty focused on just what are the mechanisms of the mental health needs that we see or of resilience and wellness. And we have less around well, what interventions work really, really well. So I tend to go to techniques or approaches that have a strong evidence base, either for older adults, or for LGBTQ folks generally, and think about what app that what adaptations might I need to make to make this work? So if I'm pulling an intervention that generally works well with older people, like Okay, where did they miss attention to sexual orientation or gender identity? Where might those pieces of culture be absent that need to be integrated here? If I'm pulling an intervention that's for younger LGBTQ folks, I'm thinking Where does age tie into this? How might ageism be impacting if I were to try to use this and make it less impactful or less helpful for this person? So some of the specific techniques narrative approaches, generally, especially narrative reminiscence, are really effective with older adults, you have an entire lifetime of experiences, a lot of the developmental tasks and older adulthood are starting to make meaning of your life story. And so these approaches that are about meaning making and tying your stories together are really effective when you've lived several like so many decades, and have all these experiences that are coming together to mean something to you, especially as you think about, well, what do I want these last decades of my life to look like? If you're doing that I think narrative approaches also tend to be recommended for LGBTQ folks, these postmodern humanistic approaches can be really helpful ways to explore culture with people in ways that are salient identities have influenced our life story. I think that you just need to be intentional about integrating that focus rather than just focusing on like the surface level stuff you here. Remember, you're working with a population who was told their whole lives not to talk about being queer or trans, right? And that doesn't mean every single person internalize those messages. But if you're working with a queer, trans older adult, and this isn't coming up, you might consider intentionally inviting it in. They just might not know that it's okay to talk about it with you.