SAC #5 second time

    7:12PM Feb 24, 2022

    Speakers:

    Carla Meeske

    Kate

    Keywords:

    power

    spirits

    animal

    rabbit

    teacher

    jackie

    healing

    journey

    rattle

    circle

    people

    asked

    gift

    jennifer

    engage

    compassion

    karen

    piece

    kate

    grandmother

    healer, as the leader of our little circle, we're not touching Putin or the act of the invasion because the probability is that there are forces that are extraordinarily dark and I don't want us going near them right now. Yeah, I know we can do good work, doing how we know how to do I know we can do that. I know we will be effective and successful and safe. These three things. I'm stepping beyond that boundary, and not even going to talk about it.

    Is that foolish of me to do that for Putin?

    I would not do that personally. Okay. I would not do that grandmother sunflower. I asked the question about whether or not we should do something to stop Putin when it was clear he was starting to rise about 14 or 15 years ago. And I was given a hard know that I had no idea what we were up against. And I could they could guarantee me that my signature would be on any effort and that it would come back to bite me in the ass. Hard No. And the circle that journey done it with me, all got the same thing I'm telling you, we came back with our eyes like saucers. We were so so so affected by that journey. We were thinking okay, we're done journeying. That's it. Let's just go out and eat hamburgers. My answer it from grandmother was always stay in your circle. And the spirits have been really clear that the work that we do to bring healing and support to those who are suffering, and doing it by having the compassionate spirits take power. and distribute it to those who are suffering without our distributing it. Our gathering it and asking that it be distributed to those who are suffering is safe and highly effective. So that's what we're doing. There are other groups that will do other things.

    Remember, clean myself up with

    your signature is on your work. And the spirits that are behind this have been behind every horrid thing on earth, person to person since the beginning of time.

    I wasn't in drumming mode. I was just doing popping up a prayer. Yeah, it wasn't. I wasn't in drumming mode.

    Yeah. I'm just I'm just telling you. No, no, no, I'm grateful for the information. And I'm not saying that what you're doing is going to be frightening or dangerous. And I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm only telling you what I've learned. And when I get into circle with other people who step who want to step beyond the boundary that I know is safe for me I just say thanks and leave so

    I think prayer, I see prayer a little differently than the shamanic journey. And I know as a Buddhist you know, we we often will do exactly what Katie said was is is you know, send healing send love, basically send send love to open hearts.

    So I'm kind of confused right now. I think

    it's wise to be confused because if sending love to open hearts had worked, we wouldn't be here. So consider that and journey to your spirits. To ask what is your most valuable contribution? And if it's sending love to open hearts, then do it. But ask your spirits what is safe and what is best for you?

    Even Jesus got done over didn t

    shirt I mean, you know, this is the oldest story of Adam and Eve. Here we are. And there's I mean, there's really it's really not a new story. And you know what humanitarian aid is a really fabulous thing to do. You can be so effective with humanitarian aid, shamanic Lee. So fabulously effective and so helpful. Imagine a person a woman with her three children trying to get into the car to get out right now. At having an obstacle put in front of her that disappears and then she can we can do that. Yeah, we can do that. That's in our wheelhouse. We can do that. And so I feel very enthusiastic about that and and know that our work is useful. The rest of things you guys want to do? I mean, who am I to say or judge? The number one thing in shamanism is ask your spirit guides. Don't ask me I don't know. I know what I'm not doing because I've asked my spirit guides and they've given me clear boundaries, especially for when I'm leading the group so that I don't lead us anybody in the group into an area where they can get hit. Thank you. You're welcome. It's really important to me you don't get hit. You know, cuz, man, I I'm just a fault. The final follow up to that is I have had lots of clients over the years who have engaged in psychic warfare against the enemy of and I tell you, they get smashed to smithereens. They do not come out of it in whole pieces. And then putting them back together again is really hard. And so you must really understand your motivations and your expectations and really be crystal clear about whether you're trying to be a hero. And if you're trying to be a hero as a warrior against Be very careful. scrutinize your motivations down to your tiniest little core. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with being a hero against but it's dangerous as shit. And so understand that and know that doing the work the way we do it is effective and delightful and wonderful and helpful and good and not in any way. putting you at risk in harm's way. Yeah. Okay,

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    We are I don't even know how we're gonna do it. We're talking to dead animals today. Maybe they have some wisdom for us. You know. I really am excited about it. And I want I think this is truly in keeping with our mission today. Our job today is to cross into over the bridge or if you don't use the bridge, however you get there to the animal on the other side. And to ask that animal, How was life whatever asked the questions. Do you have a gift of healing power for your mom? Do you have a gift of healing power for her and the animal will bestow upon you something. It could be anything from a chocolate heart to a soul part that the person sent over with the animal when the animal died. Have you ever known people whose animal died 10 years ago and they're still in deep grief? Yeah, it's not common, but it happens and almost always, part of it is soul loss from sending a piece of themselves over with the animal and then they're not whole and then they have issues, problems and concerns. So you might be doing Soul Retrieval for your partner with this little exercise. Yeah, it's nice. I am going to presume you guys did check in. While I'm speedy Speedy Gonzalez through the stoplights. Okay. I call the Stewart's of the North. Grandfather sunflower. It's time for us to open the circle in the very big way. At this time, whenever we open circle, we must do it. With the power to transfigure and transform. So I am going to open the circle today in the way that we will in the ceremonies tomorrow. And we will perform the surgery of ceremony of tomorrow right now in anticipation because this is the way that we can relieve ourselves of the internalized drama of this time. We will begin in the northeast and open the gateway into the boreal forests into the sweet song of the healed ones of the Northeast. And we ask that the spirits of pure compassion the spirits of complete on ambiguous love comes and only spirits of cure compassion only

    and we ask each of us to meet one of them or more and ask to be blessed by them and held in their life.

    Walking now to the east we open the gateway of the sun and we ask for the spirits of love, light and compassion to come. Our healed ancestors filled with compassion power animals and teachers of compassion and light

    Cosmos theorists river May the Guardian tree come and hold this direction, clear and sacred

    passing through the southeast. We asked the spirits to guard this direction and to bring the forest to power and compassion. He delineate the inside of our circle from the outside world. Feel the inside of our circle is think and sacred.

    Walk into the south we open gateway of Earth. Make friends mother sunflower and all our teachers come and raise the power of this direction

    raise the strength and raise the light. May the spirits of immense compassion come

    and the tree hold this direction sacred and strong to the south west. He the wounds of all the time. We send the light down the ladder and asks the barrier between the pain of the outside and the power of the inside to be clear and in the spirits before our circles completely safe and strong. Yes. To the west, we open the gateway of Twilight and we ask the spirits that have incredible wisdom become spirits of incredible compassion and open the gateway and lay in this tree with verb strength and power. And to the North. He he sang the song of the heroines and heroes and the pure compassion to come. And to the north to open gateway of stars. We call in the light of creative force the strength and power needed to illuminate and ignite change and the tree of the north and all eight directions now uniting the swirling power through the circumference of our circle our sacred trees in the center. We asked now for the roots of all the forest can merge below and the bow to merge above. And for the power of the cosmos and the creative life force the earth to meet and the egg shimmering sacred vessel create no power of pain may come through and all fearing to be fair. We scan connected and united with our teachers with our power animals and we now ask now for the spirits that we know and trust to sing the song now to call the spirits they know and trust this compassion it's one to come

    as we sing the song for those spirits to remember the spirit vein trust the spirits of compassion beyond them to come and the compassionate ones beyond them to come and goes beyond them

    thanks yeah your health

    your teachers and your power animals now call in the spirits who will be the conduits to the people and the animals and the other spirits who are fearful and endangered and suffering. No who your conduit spirits are and ask your power animals and teachers to be the one to engage with them. You will remain engaged with your power animals and features only through this every other connection is from them to the other.

    Our job is to create a ball of light immense and intense and powerful that the conduit spirits may use

    we can do this because we care and we train in the center of our sacred circle is a vessel and see how it looks for you

    then raise your rattle to the stars as we call upon the power of Quasar come in and illuminate the vessel and fill it with that creative power

    we call upon the power of the Milky Way mother. Still successful with her creative love and talent Colleton to center avert a star herself and support it with her creative powers

    we asked our trees to call upon the ecosystems of lifeforce shimmer their creative power and concentrated into this bowl.

    We asked every one of the sacred spirits who has come to concentrate their connection to the compassionate divine into this bowl.

    When you are ready, speak into the bowl. Your worries, fears and concerns that you may be healed. From this now that befall may feel you all your concerns whatever they are it's your time

    as you are feeling yourself neutral and empowered. We call upon the conduit spirits to come forward and for our teachers and taller animals to engage with them. So that the power of this bowl may be carried outward to serve in beauty and love and life.

    To know that the conduit spirits recognize needed

    your rattle. Get it now into the bowl that it may forever contain a seed of this power.

    Fields just rattle from view from here forward

    this rattle to direct this healing to those who need it when you are aware of them your conduit spirit will support that

    until it has been, until it shall become

    candy with cherish when you are complete we thank you for your presence, your knowledge and your in in courage

    made the shimmering egg around us. Remain in a cloak. And may we place that cloak on us now and then corporated into our field just so we are protected and empowered going forward

    always remember to use your connection to your teachers and your power animals to interface with how this power goes forwards

    give that rattle of yours now. Over to your teachers to safeguard. Again,

    thank you spirits maze this circle remain engaged and informed. And may we return now to our forums as above so below as within so without

    How do you guys feel?

    Wow, I don't know how to put it into words. Very powerful.

    The last part of the rattle came in a dream two nights ago. They that the that piece that they said this is the final piece of the ceremony and make sure this is the rattle I used I'm going to wrap it. As soon as ceremony is over. I'm going to wrap it so that its head is always covered. And grandmother sunflower holds the rattle and non ordinary reality for me. And in order for me to take it up. She must hand it to me. So it must be an appropriate use for example, Joanna's mom and sister are in Gdansk and they're scared to death. So their fear is just like teeth chattering right. And so that would be a way that I would pull the rattle and ask for conduit spirit to take the power to help Joanna's mom and daughter or a mom and sister from fear. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. I know there are a billion ways to work that are completely appropriate, wonderful, lovely and really valuable and I am not one to say that any other way of working it should not be done. Work any way that you find appropriate. And you get to work this way.

    Hello, when you say you're going to wrap your rattle and you're going to wait for grandmother son to hand it to you. So there's the non ordinary reality and then the what does that look like in this reality? Um, well,

    soon as I find a piece of cloth that is decent besides a hand towel covered on it and tied on so that this is not exposed to diminish its power and so that my cats won't run into it accidentally. And in ordinary reality, I'll use this rattle now only for this ceremony and I've got lots of rattles. So that's easy. And in non ordinary reality when I wish to engage that this power I will because I'm no I'm going to have clients come I'm going to have requests given I know that I will be asked to help with XY and Z. Like you know what's coming, you know that there are going to be gobs and gobs of abandoned animals in Kiev. You know it right. It's part of what happens in these fucking situations. And so that's exactly what we're good for. Right? That's exactly who we are. To call that power together to get every one of those animals protected, sheltered, rescued, you see what I'm saying? You know, and so the rattle will come out. Paulo

    Yeah. So we're at the very end I gave the raffle in northern reality to my stag, and his eyes are really wide, you know, really wide, sort of, and I wasn't sure whether he was frightened or not, but that's me putting interpretation on it. But he was kind of really wide eyed, but maybe it's just looking is really aware and looking

    I would love it if you would ask him if you could see through those eyes when they're wide like that.

    Yeah. Cuz you were hot. You've got extra protection with his eyes wide open. His eyes were really wide. And I had a really lovely because mine's a cauldron. And I had all these kind of hoses coming out of the courtroom being held by the lots of extra spirits came in for the ones that I haven't met before. And and the hoses were going out and being held by the spirits, and then they were going into a space where there were spirits that I couldn't see. So there were hoses going in all directions from the power source to that was really nice to witness. But I had a love it. So the north the South is Sandy, and the West is water. And when you did the South West, it was a beach was found to be water, which was really nice. It's all connected. It's all connected. Yeah. Thank you. That was a really lovely experience.

    Thank you I'm grateful to be able to share it with you. It's been in years and years and years in development. And I will tell you that Joanna works with Quasar and when she does miracles happen the more that we are engaging these cosmic spirits, the stronger our power. I am working more and more with them. And my teacher of the cosmos a guy named Claude pulse away is on the other side and is assisting that. So working with the spirits of the cosmos, has completely changed the level of effectiveness of the shamanic practice that I engage in and that I teach by but we are going to talk to get animals I'm going to get a can of water

    I know it sounds harsh to say dead animals but it is so much simpler than all the other words. Like sometimes I just say pet for your companion animal because you know what pets a one single syllable word. And it may have authoritarian connotations, but it's effective at getting the job of communication across. Alright.

    Carla, I had a quick question. If you don't mind. So when we were doing giving the rattle to my teachers, I ended up giving it to my teacher self. And I didn't know

    if the teacher was

    so so in some of my journeys. I I become my own

    teacher. Oh, your Higher Self thing. Yeah. So

    I ended up giving the rattles to that part of myself. And then I was thinking that maybe I shouldn't be doing that. So I gave it to my teacher. Self ended up handing it over to another one of my teachers I think because I was unsure

    good smart.

    Okay. Yeah, so I'm wondering cuz I'm not sure when I split like that, what that's about.

    I've known a couple people who do that. Okay, yeah, it's not uncommon. And your answer is going to come over years of working with it to understand what it's about my response to it with the people who have worked I've worked with to have that capacity that that happens with them. Is they always even though they know that they are their own teacher. Always have an additional superior to you. Come, teacher involved. Because ego is the trickiest goddamn thing as LaRoche Bucco said, as soon as you think you've conquered self love it is yet another victory for self love. Leave it to the French right. It's just so true. And so for that reason, we are in fact the wisest beings on earth on in the universe. We are I mean, we've got it. But we also have brains that can be convoluted and taken off track.

    So is that what's happening? No.

    But it could be happening in some part of you. And you don't know. That's the problem. You think you've conquered self love? And so given the fact that the human condition is that we live in some muddy state of confusion even though we're enlightened at the highest self? Because that's the human condition. Make sure your grandmother sunflower is also present.

    Okay, well, I always have any other teachers with me. I'm never alone.

    Perfect. That's all I ask. Okay, yes, that's all I ask. Okay. And right at the end of this lesson, grandmother sunflower said, what you are up against you, people of light who are trying to do this is that people's minds are under the influence of false narratives. And the the shadow has moved through consciousness. And do not forget that. That it's insidious. And so always work impeccably. And it's true. I mean, Putin, his first wave of this war was splitting are like a lot of countries. But America in particular, because I'm here and I know, splitting us in half through bullshit that occupies the brains of at least half our country. Wrong Thinking bullshit. In the head.

    Destruction. Destruction.

    Maybe. But if now they're siding with him. 50% of our country thinks Putin's a stronger leader than Biden. Yeah. No shit girl. That's where we are. And it's because of his propaganda campaign that's been going on since 2014. So I'm knowing that people have these worms in their brains. And you don't know what worm you've gotten your brain because we're in the human condition. Stick to the regimen and work with your teacher. That's the whole point. Thank you, Jackie.

    Since I I always call him my power animal and I teach her that it's the power animal that seems to be more visual to me and sometimes I I'm, I'm like, teacher are you there? I can't, you know, can't see her. I sometimes see her I that's very strong. For me. Okay,

    power animal. Perfect, fine. Totally equal. Month. I only say teacher because in my practice, grandmother sunflower and I can talk English with each other and bear does not speak English. Okay, bear speaks claw.

    Might my bear emanates messages. Oh, great. Yeah, good. And I don't hear those words, necessarily. He's a bit of a trickster these days too. And, and I'm feeling a lot more comfortable with him.

    Yeah, the power animal is plenty. You only need one one spirit. Li

    You only need one.

    And y'all are really solid with yours. And I feel good about that. Yeah, okay. Let's do this. Course. Oh, were we all in practice circle? No. Okay. Kate, you worked on Tuesday. viewer who did you work with in practice circle. What I want to do is see if we can just partner up like we did in practice circle center. Now I know who worked with him.

    I was happy he isn't here. Right.

    Okay. Jackie, who are you with?

    I was with both Karen and Kayla.

    And Kayla. Oh, so you and Jackie and Karen are together. Oh yeah. Pat, who were you with?

    Jennifer? Oh,

    then Kate and I are together. Look at that. Do you remember who you were working with for each other? Pretty much Jennifer what's the name of your animal and that that your doggy the Corgi on the other side?

    Buffy Yeah. She was a vampire slayer. For sure.

    Pat, do you remember Buffy? Yeah. Okay. And Pat, who were you having Jennifer work with? Oh, geez. Jessie, right. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. So I see this is what we're good for. We're good for helping each other. Jackie, who were you having work done for who was the animal?

    It was. It was Misha, but Karen journey because Misha wanted to give me a message she didn't have when we were in class. She wanted to give me a different message than what Karen was asking. or So Karen journeyed for Nisha on her own. Yesterday and and you know, gave me healing. Some messages and things.

    How cool

    was it was at it was amazing. It was

    it was really amazing. This gives me great joy.

    But I I journeyed for Kayleigh not Karen so I don't know the animal that Karen you know, so I don't know Karen's animal allow me to get to know Karen's animal, Karen Juran so I feel I go to bear so it would be for better or do I need to pick a different animal or keep the same honors?

    Keep the same one. Let's just make things simple.

    Okay, it will be for bear so I'll probably have to give Jackie the details because she may not remember it because Kayla went to bear right. So what are the details? So there was 12 when he crossed he crossed in early 2008. Possibly the end of 2007. But it was right at the cusp, I think of 2008. He had paralysis. We euthanize him he was a Rhodesian Ridgeback lab mix. Male

    Okay,

    Kate,

    you will please be journeying to a gray Amina brown tabby cat named Timmy Timmy was my familiar, my working partner and he died at probably 18 I'm not good with numbers so I don't remember he was very old. And it was two years ago that he finally put his little paw over the bridge. In boy cat I had him since he was born a baby cat

    and then the animal you have and my questions for him or whatever he wants to share. And I need the healing. Give me some

    and who am I journeying for with UK?

    Oh, this is Charlotte's rabbit called Fandi. You died I reckon. About 2013. She's a house rabbit. We got her when she was probably about eight weeks old. And she was kind of so brave and so clever. She taught all the other rabbits how to potty train and stuff like that. She was really clever. She was dwarf rabbit. And she had a worm, which meant in her cerebellum of balance centers so she would sort of fit sometimes I ended up getting Heinz politics managed to get a bit better, but it was kind of chronic and I got to the point where I thought I'm not going to do this anymore. And I stopped giving her medicine and she died of a kind of stroke obably so the worm kind of took over, because I couldn't bow in any way and believe that you'll be okay surely, she was Charlotte's kind of best friend. And I'm not sure what you mean. By familiar but he was almost like you know how you have an invisible brand. That was Charlotte's and visible brand was rabbits, everything. Every kind of experience was shared with disruption. So, you know, actually, I think she dissociated when trying to drive dive a bit a bit there's still a strong connection.

    Alright, then I will bring back healing for you and separately healing for sure.

    Oh, I asked you though it didn't because Thank

    you my yob

    I looked after her but she was really a connection was a Charlotte.

    What did Sandy's coloration

    Sandy. She was like watching like a wild rabbit with a touch of red and Okay. She looked like a wild rabbit. But she was she was a dwarf rabbit I kind of bread for

    Alright, fine.

    Well, Jackie, want me to I have returned it to Tanisha does she want me to join? Does she want me to go back to me? Should we? Or should I try a different animal for her this so my

    wife does not mind to answer

    because she's visited me. Like three times now.

    I know what would you like Jackie?

    A lot. You know?

    Um Um, gosh, I

    I don't know you. She did so she she did CG too. For me.

    We're sticking with the original animal. Okay, stick to that because I really want to get process together here. And once you have process, you can repeat process. Okay.

    I'd love to hear whatever Misha has to say.

    This is the 99% of our mission here is to bring back healing power from the animal. It's helpful if you have already encountered the animal and answered some of the questions because our main focus here is for the animal to deliver to us. Healing power for the person left behind.

    And she did that already for me,

    then do it more.

    Okay, gotcha. Very good. Okay,

    because there's a technique of doing it that I want to make sure we're clear on. This is a technique that is universal for retrieving healing power for a client. And there's this whole way of routine retrieving healing power that I learned from Tom Cullen and I will use the same thing that way for this. We use this all the time. And it goes like this, you journey across the bridge with your teacher or power animal to meet the client animal. You engage with them to get comfortable to know where they are to answer the questions. See what it's like whatever they want to share all that good stuff. And then you say, animal, do you have healing power to share with your that I can retrieve to your person left behind. A gift of healing power that I can take back to your mom. Let's use those words. A gift of healing power that I can take back to your mom the animal will impart something to you. It may have visual form it may have audio to go with it. It may it can be the whole gamut. Whatever it is, gather as much of it about it. Its signature and then put it in your heart. You carry it in your sternum. your sternum is your big pocket. Your big shaman pocket. Right here is your shaman pocket. Put it there. Cool. And then you ask your power animal or teacher to layer power into it in addition right so they give you the cupcake and your spirit puts the frosting on it

    then you say Muchas gracias. And you traveled back. If you were working one on one with someone and we weren't in the whole group, and we have to negotiate how we're going to do this in the group if you were working one on one, if I were working with Kate, one on one, I'd come back and I would say Kate, please open your heart I would blow it into her the healing power of whatever it is. I gift back to you the soul light that you sent with the rabbit I sent I give back to you blessed by grandmother sunflower and sealed now with the light of love or whatever it is that magical beauty that you saw going along with it so your words become this healing treasure right so we're not one on one. So you're going to hold it in your hearts. And we're going to come back and I'm going to call on you. I'll call on Pat. Pat please impart to Jennifer and Pat will Jennifer I gift to you blah blah blah blah blah. Then I'll say Jennifer, please impart to pat and Jennifer will say pet I give to you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I'll say Jackie, please give to Karen. Jackie will go blah blah blah blah blah. Karen please give to Jackie blah, blah blah blah blah. Then I will give to Kate and she will to me and after everybody is done. They're blowing and gifting. Then we talk about it. So, Karen will give to Jackie Jackie will receive and remain silent about receiving it. That way she will be that way we won't interrupt the flow of the blowing. Let's see what Shirley's up to here. Hey, darling.

    Hi, Shirley.

    Take yourself off mute. Did you come for a quick healing? We're in the middle of class. I'd love to help you. What can I do for you?

    Um, I was checking out tomorrow's things. So I'll get out

    okay. You I love you. We'll see you tomorrow. Oh, by the way.

    What happened for Charlotte? Did you give it to me to get to Charlotte? Are you going to do it symbolically to Charlotte because you said you're going to

    I'll do it to Charlotte quietly on my own okay.

    It's curious. I

    was gonna recruit surely to do this because she's knows how to do this really well, but she's good at it.

    I say she's also from Eugene, Oregon, which is where I'm from

    you guys should be pal. She's just the coolest girl and I am going to make a how do I let anybody know how to close off Oh, here. I'm going to lock the meeting. Okay. So that's, we won't have that again. Although it's always nice to see Shirley. She's one of my favorite people. You'll see why Jackie. All right. We will now journey and I am going to

    call us back and then after I call you back will everybody takes themselves off mute please, because it's a lot easier if you just come back, get yourself off, mute and wait until I call on you. Your mission is to journey to the spirit of the animal in question. I'm going to Sandy the rabbit. Gather whatever information the animal wishes to share. And most importantly, ask for a gift of healing power from the animal for your partner. Put it into your chest and ask your power animal teacher to augment it and seal it into you. Add more. Put the frosting on the cupcake and then proceed back. If I haven't finished drumming still proceed back. And I will end drumming at probably in eight minutes. It might be a little longer. Grandmother sunflower will tell me when to end drumming. She knows what y'all are doing. At that point you will take yourselves off mute and we will wait until you're called upon Here we go.

    Why bye Bye We Then by the Bye

    Jackie please blow into Karen.

    Power of I gift to you

    a golden key their gifts to you.

    Thank you, Karen for Jackie.

    The power of a heart is Michelle's gift to you.

    Pat please for Jack Jennifer.

    Jennifer I give to us a gift of the globe with the image from Buffy.

    Jennifer for Pat

    Pat are bringing the gift of solar energy from Jessie.

    Kate from Buffy of miscues me from Sandy for you a tangled ball of herbs from the rabbits Field of Dreams. For you to be fully healed. And remember yourself and for Charlotte, a basket of her own soul parts surrounded by the protection of a King Charles rabbit power animal looks like a king Charles retriever but it's a rabbit. I give this to you to share with her

    kinda I give you from Timmy a beaten, animated heart that was blown into by stag. To make it bigger and bigger

    thanks Timmy.

    Just take a moment and journey into the gift you have received.

    Integrate through here.

    As we share I'd like you to focus on the messages that accompany the power path will begin with you.

    Yes, that was a very incomplete image. But I my description was brief. It was actually very long because there were so many little parts of it. That I couldn't. I'll try to describe it to you if it became like a snow glow. Well, Buffy began to glow and assume a stance stance of a statute. So part of the gift was a figure of Buffy standing with this glowing heart. It became you became like a little railroad car on a fast track. The Earth began to move quickly underneath like he was running. So it was the gift is momentum to speed you on your path. And he's like a little railroad car with his heart and there's a seat behind him for you in this little car and it was all sort of contained in like a snow globe. But to make it all well contained. So you have a glow with this lovely little image of the track that speeding and he's like leading with his his heart energy that was the gift to you. And this is momentum. Great momentum and and confidence. He just is full of that. You know that's that is what you will have she I'm sorry, she sorry. I'm getting Jenner's mixed up this week like nobody's business now. Sorry. I was on mute because they're doing group work and I wasn't sure how much of it was gonna come through. But um that's really amazing, for many reasons, but because when I first went into journey, and that rabbit, which I don't usually meet, and she was like, let's go. And I was like, okay, and we were sweeping through as though a train on attractors. This artist painter James W. Turner is a British artist, and it's off fast. And the image that I remember in this was a train speeding through and a tiny rabbit in the photo or in the painting. So it's kind of incredible. But you also saw something so similar. Yeah, um, yeah, fuckin cool. But, um, so we went really, really fast. And as we're talking, I was like, you know why I'm here right? Because I didn't really get a word in there like yeah, my other power animals there. And we got to the bridge and the rabbits got but I kept going. And so I was kind it was like Looney Tunes on the bridge and my heels were like trying to kind of screech um, and I get there. And I kind of fly up and a statue catches me. When I was a little kid, there was this cartoon called gargoyles. And at night, these gargoyles that were protecting the city would come awake and like protect people. And it was this gargoyle and I was like cool. And I asked if he knew where Jesse was. And Jesse was right behind him in this huge warm ray of light. But Jesse was gigantic, like a kind of like strange and I mentioned it and I asked why he was saying that he felt a little uncomfortable, like bloated and then he like exploded. And from the explosion on the bridge was this tiny little cat version of him and he was like, oh, that's better. Which I kind of understood as his ego kind of finally giving up the ghost, so to speak. Um, and he let me pet him and he said, Oh, I miss people. And he said that you made him miss people. He's still super appreciated and super loving and really, really wanted me to share that with you. He said you can tell her that please tell her that. And then I see I tried to write some of this down. Oh, when I asked him for the gift he he from his belly. It kind of opened up like an aperture of a camera and this yellow ball of like sun like came out and I asked him if he would need it still and he's like No, and I pee let me peek through the hole now that was in his tummy. And I could see like the cosmos behind it and he was like it's self is replenishing. He's like it goes both ways where it needs to go. So he gave it to me to give to you and then I asked my guides for the frosting and I saw a bat and a snake and they both kind of came in with that I saw what I saw to you on the snake was like a diamond shape. On the skin, especially on the head

    and diet that the snake said to for me to tell you that this is big energy and that gentleness is going to be key. Um, that because then right after I saw a swan with sunglasses, which I interpreted as ways of seeing and clarity and the need for discernment. But the things that came up were for strength, courage and steam clearly. And then also a strawberry. And I was I asked about that. And Jesse was like, why not? And so I don't know if you like strawberries. Yeah, that was that was it. She huge thanks Karen Okay, so it was my fridge. And there's always a voice there that asks who I speak. So it asks Who do you speak? So it always wants this again, and it's the same gift that I always give it when I when I go so I gave the Grinch a gift and and I see Jackie's dog Misha. Misha says, Hi, you're back in Japan. And he said Hi. It's nice to see you again. Thank you for coming. Oh is everything. She says it's great. Like I said, I'm really happy. Jackie's grandmother came to see me today. I love her. And she put the Afghan around me and we just got together silence and enjoying each other's company. She's very proud of me for communicating, taking the risk to do that. She says I'm learning and that's good. It was so beautiful. We were in a Golden Meadow with the sun warming us. It was great. Thank you, Misha. And I would like to ask for a gift of healing our steak back to Jackie. I gave it to you yesterday. Would you like me to do it again? So she's a little confused by this? Yes. And I say yes, please. I'm trying a different way today. So she says Okay, so again, she produces a white sphere of light that changes into a pink heart. And then a picture of Jackie shows up and they say well, I have to do it different this time because yesterday the picture of Jackie showed up and she placed the heart inside Jackie's heart. So I just said okay, I just I have to do a little different this time and so she said okay, so she hands me the heart. And she says now remember what I said. So what she said yesterday was she said so it is done. It's okay to let go Jackie. I'm always here. We all are you are never alone. A piece of me is now in you carry it with comfort with love. My love shines for you from the inside out and back to me. The ribbon has been connected. We are together again. And so and I think I say thank you Misha. And she says now that's for Jackie. So she wants to make sure like I'm not gonna take it as Jackie Jo make sure she gets it. I said yes, I promise. And she says okay, so she hands me the heart. And then I asked my power animal and teacher to lay or they their power. onto it and just this purple, this deep purple light blue light just completely envelops it and it's like shooting sparks and I said thank you, Misha. I'm sorry I have to go and she says well, okay.

    The fastest way is to have them just put it in. It's great.

    To have it twice. Thank you Karen.

    Thank you. So much.

    So that there seems so happy so happy and he kept you know how dogs do the really fast turtle like the chasing their tail and he just kept doing that and doing that and got airborne and was just very happy. I didn't hear a lot of words I asked. Are there messages for Karen and he's Yes. You know, I I felt he misses being in your household. And he just just kept so happy. So happy. I'm just so happy to is just very happy. And he showed me like playing how he would play and things like that. And then and then I just said, you know I asked some more questions and I didn't really get any answer but then all of a sudden this big treasure chest up here and bear jumped inside of it and went like that and pulled out a golden key. And he said that this was the key for you and that you were and I said is there a message with the key and he indicated that you were going to be doing great things. Kind of it seemed like you were unlocking things for this. He said yeah, I wasn't words. It was like she's going you know going to do great things. That's the message I got but not in words. And then power animal bear. Took his paw and went right through my chest and just kind of went like this and made that golden key. Expand and blow and be be is couldn't see the key

    anymore. It was just a globe.

    And then we went back and delivered the key to Well, thank you Jackie. That's so sweet. So when we wrote the journey to our animal he he did tell me it will unlock so many things for you you are ready so that fit perfectly that's exactly what he said that. So here so when we were when we were kind of journey at the end when we were just trying to feel the the gift from our animal. Yeah, yeah, they're told me it will unlock so many things for you. You are ready. So that end how you describe him is how exactly how he was a very happy, playful, playful dog. So thank you so much Checky was great. Nice to meet there.

    Okay, you want to go first?

    Cool. So what a lovely cat collar. So when I went to the bridge, he was sitting on the other side. And I said do you want me to come over or do you want to come over to now come over he crossed the bridge. And he was just putting himself you know how they wrap themselves around your legs and just moving on. He was moving for my panorama as well. He's just really really just really affectionate. And his theme he said I see you when you're in the car, but I'm actually with you. So it was like an observing. He wasn't in the car he was observing you and then he sees you he's with you when you're watching the stars. is with you in the kitchen is actually once a piece of fish. Oh yeah. And he was in your bedroom. He was um, he said I'm with her in the kitchen. And he was kind of moving in between the like using the chairs of the kitchen chairs, the legs to kind of move in and out of and I'm just really affectionate. And then I said what do you want to give to Carla? And this just caught in heart appeared um, so I put a ticket into my chest and what it was color was it was his love to you because he said he missed you. He said it's his love to you and your love to him. So it was a combination of what you've taken over from you and his love to you. And it was put in my chest and I asked my stag to protect it and make it bigger. And so the sag blew into it and it was actually so big collar it was really uncovered

    that there's a lesson in this. It's good.

    Yeah, really, really uncomfortable. So I said can you make it a bit smaller, so I can carry it and they said okay, but actually, actually, I mean, it was it was fun to do that something needed to stretch maybe color for me. I don't know, but I can still feel the stretch. It was big for me to carry it for you and I actually came back really early. And I was thinking Oh, really like this

    cuz they've got to come up really soon. Anyway, I gave it to you. I could still fit it a bit but I think it's a stretch, stretch. But it's good luck to you and your love to him all wrapped up and expanded.

    Thank you.

    Really lovely.

    When we journeyed into it, his his presence is all over me again. I by familiar I meant that he did every journey with me. He began every healing journey I did for every client on my lap. And then when I was deep in the journey, he'd leave and at the end of the journey before I did call back he'd returned to my lap. And if the client was there, he start on them leave and come back before then he's been part of my healing practice for as long as he was. Yeah. For you, my journey was long and complicated. And the part of it I will share here is the part referring to you because I'm not feeling that I should refer to anything regarding your daughter here. And so for you. The Sandy showed this field of rabbits that he lives in. First he explained his job which is to rebirth the souls of rabbits who basically meet rabbits and he sees rabbits in cages who die and he brings their souls in and helps them be reborn into the rabbit world through a maternal rabbit. And so as they come back into the rabbit world, they're birthed out as these little pink nubbin. Nubbins you know how rabbits when they're born are these little pink nothing little. So there were all the souls growing back up and becoming souls again. And he wanted you to know that's his main job. He's part of the team that helps with that. And then we did the work for Charlotte and then he did the work for you and he said, The gift I wish to give Kate is for her self healing. I wish to give her the herbs and the power here that will heal her. And he asked the field to gather up and it became like this crochet ball this inner what like a string ball of the herbs and the flowers have that field and that power is what we put into

    you. Thank you Carla. Sounds nice and earthy. Doesn't know Yeah, with all the plants. Thank you. It's interesting because when you gave it to me, I am. Some of them were put into me but some of them were burnt around me and burnt. Nice. Thank you.

    You're welcome. So my friends, you have learned a technique now that will serve you. And a lot of people will want you to talk to their dead animals. And it's really lovely. And when you do this piece of it. It's very powerful. So, you've learned a big technique, you've learned a power retrieval technique and this power retrieval technique has many many applications. Remember that every shamanic technique you learn is like a measuring spoon that can measure out lots of different herbs and spices. No technique is stagnant. All techniques are recipe or the technique I show you is a cake baked from the recipe of infinite variations. The tools and tech the tools you learn are ingredients that you and your spirits weave together to create meals of healing for your clients.

    What did it mean color that it was uncomfortable? That I could really feel it and it was really

    Oh, so there's no doubt in your mind how big and powerful the healing is that you're bringing back for your client?

    Okay, yeah.

    And it's real.

    No doubt. Right. You get it. You believe it's for you to really say okay, Dagnabbit This is a doozy.

    It was it was really big.

    Yeah. And that felt very big. Aha. And in the Scarlet, I'm sorry, go. No, I was gonna say that in your first case where the animal imparted it directly into Jackie, you didn't get the opportunity to experience the immensity of it before you passed it over to her. That's totally fine. You do not need to engage in the immensity of it to pass it over to her. But in this way of teaching this you get the opportunity to and it becomes a teaching in and of itself.

    So because Nisha wanted I mean, because she just did that. Do I still need to ask power animal and teacher to infuse their power into it before the animal places it or do I just let the animal do it.

    You ask your power animal and teacher if they want to add value. Okay. It's always a good idea. Okay,

    thank you. That's the bit that made all the difference caring because it went in and I could feel it. But then when it was blown up twice on my power animal. That was really, really powerful,

    right? That's when it explodes. Michael Horner had a teaching all teachings in shamanism can apply to a variety of circumstances. His teaching is this. The spirits of of the elements are neutral. They're very powerful and they are neutral. A sorcerer can use the power of courts to kill a spirit of compassion uses the power of courts to heal when you're working with sources of power, always work with a compassionate spirit at the same time

    and that's why the having your teacher augmented, clarify it in case it engage it is important

    attention turns your power animals and teachers come with you because they're already there. Or at least they weren't so when I went down to Tunisia my by teacher that goes with me to the branch of my power animal were with me.

    What are you asking? I'm not understanding your question.

    So when you were saying that you what you just said about making sure you're you're not alone. I gather that you have your teacher with you or

    the key part of that teaching is not that the key part of the teaching is the sorcerer uses the neutral power to kill. How are you not a sorcerer? You're not a sorcerer because you connect with compassionate beings and you ask them to engage the power with you and for you. That's the key part of the teaching. I mean, it isn't to say you're doing something different. You need to do something different Karen but I'm really really really today has been all about understanding sorcerer, you guys don't don't don't let me fool you. I really giving you a lesson today because sorcery is going fucking crazy right now.

    And why you guys have extra protection with that was that calling in? Yes. Because that felt lots of lots of stuff came in for me and people I hadn't seen before. And I think one of them from the East who was like, you know how you have these shamans who put on masks that are all scary. So he was one with a scary mask to scare off. You know, he got his he got his kit on.

    He got this. Right. He got his kit on. Exactly you guys.

    We are never seen that before. I've never seen that before.

    Understand your teachers can teach you everything you need to know you must ask them. You must stay connected to your power animals and your teachers. You must not cowboy

    stay connected to your power animals and your teachers ask them for their protection and do what they say.

    So what I'm going to do is use that very first piece every time I journey at the moment because that's such a powerful so I'm going to use that piece because it's just it's eight corners instead of it's eight instead of four, isn't it? You've called in from

    acorns. Be careful of the corners too that you call them in. As your teacher teaches you how to ask your teachers how to call in the corners, the in between directions. the meantime, can I use yours? Absolutely. And ask your teacher as you're doing it. What how do you want us to do this? Your teachers have immense wisdom. My teacher has immense wisdom I follow her direction. Your teachers have more direction than she has. They can teach you even more. But the in between directions are very, very, very important.

    They pulled in lots of other stuff that I haven't seen before. Yeah. Thank you kind of

    when I'm working with clients, the in between directions are where I see all the trauma and drama that I use the in between directions to reach back through into their trauma and drama in order to get to it to heal it. So the in between directions have to be really well protected. Really well framed, so that what is inside your circle is perfect, beautiful and ideal and the shit can't get in

    and the circle itself heals any trauma that you have because we all right, we're human right. And pushes out if your client is in it pushes out their trauma it's a big deal. This calling in is a big deal.

    The Qigong masters go if you're full of power, nothing can get in. There's no empty spaces for them to live in. So the more power your source power I guess just it there's no space for illness or weird thoughts are anything to get in. So it's a similar language, Carly.

    Yeah. Kate is Karen I feel like I was rude to you. I'm really sorry.

    Okay, I didn't take it that way.

    Oh, good. Um, I guess and I'm feeling edgy right now. Because this is a huge time that we're in. And I have to walk my walk with absolute integrity. And I am aware that there's only one way I know how to work. And I know it works. And I know there are a lot of other ways to work that work. But I don't know what they are. And that lesson from Michael Horner has always he was of he was such a good teacher. Oh my God. Because he had studied with the shamans who did battle with one another right. He went down to Central America. Back in the day before people became enlightened and modern. Where they used to the shamans used to sit around and make poison arrows and try to kill each other. No shit Sherlock. The this is never the art of shamanism has not always been an art. of beauty, hot love in life. Right. And the lessons that he gave us about the capacity to misuse power. Were very very strong. And the solution to it is to align yourself with compassionate spirits who and to trust them and to allow them to lead and do and to augment and clarify and become to give them the role of the shaman. And our job is to be a conduit for them to do the work for the client. So he taught us how to work with crystals and elemental things. The first thing you do is merge with your teacher completely and then ask your teacher to merge with the crystal. Only then is the crystals power. Absolutely directed toward the compassionate and because it is your teacher who understands how to do that. You don't and don't pretend you do. Those were the kinds of things Michael Horner would teach us. He was very clear to remind us that we are we are despite our determination to be impeccable. Not and this is why we align with our teachers so that our work is impeccable even though we are human. And then it go off in fact one of the girls in the course see just saying he was our was our Randy old fellow. Terrible, right. But it was kind of you know, I mean, I think that there there was a lot of wisdom we got out of it.

    John of God.

    What is it about man?

    It's very interesting and Qigong, the more power you get. The men get really doesn't happen to the women. The men get really Randy because the power, women's power is in the hearts and the load on TM. So this tension and this tension, I'm pointing to my stone, but men it focuses in the lower dantian and then they get very, very Randy and then they go beyond that when they get more enlightened. And then it disappears but they go through a stage of when they're getting more and more power in their bodies. It goes to the genitals and it's it's seen as something that will happen to every single Chirlane practitioner and she gone but this is part of the process that they they're not they're not supposed to use it inappropriately or get overcome by it.

    You know what 8020 rule? I think

    women, women, it's

    funny, isn't it? I think that explains it completely. And you know, the thing is, I'm not judging. I'm not what's the point?

    It's something to do with the way that energy is filled up within the different sexes. So it's just bad luck really for them. So the

    boys got whether they're in the 80% or 20% might be good. Oh, God. All right. I have shared everything I have to share with you on this subject. And I don't know if we have a practice circle on the on the agenda. No, we do not. And that's good. Actually. I think this calls us a conclusion of our little course.

    Incredible color black.

    Thank you, Carla. You're so amazing. Thank you. I really feel empowered. I feel like my momentum has got is really engaged.

    Oh yay. Yeah. Well, I'm as as a result of this course. I'm going to revise I'm not going to ever going to do the animal intensive again. Instead, I will be doing a course like this again six weeks long. With the practice circles. You know, and that I actually Penny and I Penny's my schedule goddess. And she was here yesterday. She was at my house yesterday. And so she sat down with me and I put this course onto the books for November of this year. So on the books for my teaching for this year we have I'm going to teach spirits of the cosmos in March and concentrated form on the 15th and 18th 22nd and 25th. Two times a week, Tuesdays and Fridays, because from now through the end of September I don't have four week stretches, we're on home Neener Neener. You know, unless gas goes to $10 a gallon. My plan is to be out in the dark for two weeks out of every month. And my big plan is to be in Italy for two weeks. But I'm I'm not sure how that's gonna play out.

    And when are you going to go to Italy?

    September

    I might go in July or August. But if it ends up being September I'll let you know.

    Yeah, it's it's all you know. Kind of indeterminant right now. Joanna's house may be occupied with her family. They're in good Danks. And we're talking about that every I talk to her twice a day, right morning and night and now she's trying to decide whether she should get her family out of Gdansk and get them down to Venice.

    So it's good times in Russia or is it impermanent? I thought it was in Poland.

    It's in Poland.

    But it's right on the border of Ukraine,

    is it? No, it's over on the sea. It's it's a ways from the border of Ukraine but right now, it's absolutely chock filled with American troops. That's where we've been landing all our air force carriers in this that's in the scary It's just one big giant military right now. And Joanna says that Poland, the people of Poland are divided, that 50% of them are all for Putin. And, you know, just let that float around the

    war, the polls, why would they think it was a good idea? They've seen so much more.

    So because she's saying this, it she's very nervous about what might happen in Poland, and how this whole thing may come down. So she's thinking about what it might mean to preempt trouble and bring her family to her in in Venice now.

    Is this the same person who did the loser Oh, Reiki, okay, if I recognize your name, I hope she'll teach that again sometime.

    Yes. Yeah, I think we've got a little problem to get through. We got a thing to get through right now. And she's so yeah, vuestro should needs to go back onto the onto the schedule for 2022

    I'm getting a strong sensation. She's ready to move her family color. I'm feeling that very strongly. Okay. That she does. Anyway, I'm just sharing that it's fitting very strongly. Okay.

    Oh, Carlos, you recommend? Oh, sorry, Jennifer. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead, please. I was just gonna have so the class that we just took that you're going to offer in November would you recommend that we take that again? Or just continued like come to your mastery circle to can continue.

    Wait, wait, wait, I have an idea. Grandmother, though. This is the problem. I sleep in and then they come to me Dagnabbit you know if I want to leave a peaceful life, I only sleeps six or seven hours. It's in the last two hours that the council comes in and says and furthermore and we were saying and you should they give me all my you shoulds right. So then latest you should is to take this course and lay it out in excruciating detail written out in excruciating detail. Excruciating for me to write and to film each section of the training and to create an on demand version of this that is really, really detailed

    at it, okay,

    and so what I'm in response to your question is my coming back to you and saying, Can I call on you guys to help me video that over the course of the summer? Yeah. I would appreciate it because

    our crew really honored Carla, thank you.

    I don't want to bring newbies in to do it. I mean, one or two people who are really pretty talented newbies would be good. But the problem with videoing it with newbies is it can go sideways, so many different directions. And when you're trying to get a piece of content. It's good to have people who have some clue about what that content is going to be so that other people watching it are not distracted by side currents, right. Like bad microphones you know, so I will be reaching out to you guys for help on that. And the second answer to your question, Karen is the mastery circle is where you need to be next. We in the mastery circle once every month we do deep animal healing work. We take a piece of the animal healing protocol, and we remember it and reteach it and so you'll every month you'll get something new. Plus we have the dragon circle, which is like my heart. It's where my heart really lies in working with the Ascended Masters in the dragon village to learn things. Like would you like to learn alchemy? That's where you go to learn alchemy, right to learn cool stuff. And then we have this monthly ceremony which is really important. So all of these things are part of the mastery circle. And plus, you'll get discounts on the courses that are coming up. And the three courses that are on the books are I'm teaching spirits of the cosmos again. It is probably the most important course. I teach because it is through these spirits that we generate that giant power that fills us Qi Gong style so that no other kakak can come in. These are the spirits that do that. And making relationship with them turns out to be one of the most important things I've ever done shamanic Lee. So I'm teaching that again. And then Joanna and I are teaching three souls cycle pump and said the Orient shamanism, how does how the Siberians see the soul as three parts not just one, and what that means philosophically and from psycho pumps perspective. And it took me a long time to agree to teach this with her. It took me a long time to agree to offer it she really had to talk me into it. But she has and where it's on the schedule now for data, data, data, data, data data,

    why would you represent column period?

    I'm not going to actually go into that. That's okay. That would be March. It's April 12 is when it begins. That would be aside. You know, I'm on board now. And the way that it works is really quite profound. So that begins April 12. And then I have a guest instructor, Jennifer Jacoby, who will be teaching on May 12, beginning on May 12. Celtic soul tapestry and where's the Zoom again, Jennifer is a dear old friend. We've known each other as shamanic peers for 15 years. And she's quite strong. And her teaching style is different, but and I highly respect it. And I just think it's nice for me to bring in people I really trust to expand the awareness of you know, just to add some shouldn't all be Mee Mee Mee Mee Mee Oh my God helped me. So we're bringing in Jennifer Jacoby to teach a course and her people will be involved her she's got a school too, so her school will be invited to join so we'll be able to make some blood. That's nice.

    Yeah, do we sign up for that on your website or is that not here yet?

    It is not there yet. Jen. I'm waiting on Jennifer to give me the write up.

    Now are the other two offered on your website yet? Or not? Or not yet? Not yet. Okay,

    that not yet. The we got through the calendar yesterday and put the places in and I know what's coming. And to now I'm going to go for a hike because I really need it. And then four o'clock I'm doing a healing session tomorrow. I will put them up on the website. No pressure. It takes an hour. It takes about two hours to put a course up.

    Thank you for offering these and then my other question was for the mastery circle. So I did join. Remember when I did join to pay every month or is that? Well, I get a reminder

    to all the web. This fabulous back end thing I have takes care of all of that you get reminders and then it's wonderful. Perfect. Great. Yes, it's called lifter LMS. And if you ever decide to be stupid enough to develop a web school recommended why? Because it turns out that it's an insane amount of work. But yeah, no lifter LMS will send you a reminder. Jackie, your fingers were up.

    Oh, yeah, I do have a couple of things. That I'll email you one of the things I don't take time up here. And the other thing I'm wondering is if you have books that you recommend, or shamanic journey

    Yeah. Anything Tom Cullen wrote

    Cullen

    Cullen co w. A N. Anything he wrote all of it that's my recommendation.

    And I'll email you my other thing. Okay.

    He's of all the teachers I've worked with. He is my favorite. And his writing is exquisite. And his work is incredibly clean. The other book is our actually our textbook for the cosmos course. And it is called the shaman within it's written by a man named Claude pencil lay. You can Google the shaman within and grab that book. You Buddhist types will really like it because his wife is Buddhist and he's got a lot of Buddhist stuff in it. He is one of my active teachers. He's on the other side now. He was an active teacher for me when he was on this side. He remained. Oh, thank you, Carla. I'm so glad to hear you say that. He remains that active teacher on the other side. He's the most gracious man in the world. And if you journey to him, he would be delighted to reach back and help you. He was on Clinton's Science Commission. He at his his his making money job was an astrophysicist. That's how he made his living. Professor of astrophysics and lab leader you know works in the lab guy in astrophysics. I can't even imagine being that smart

    entrepreneur kinds of life as an astrophysicist

    Oh, hell yeah. I know that. Yeah. Amazing book. I have to go to my next Zoom meeting. So I'll say goodbye. Okay, I gotta go hiking. We'll see you again. Have a good hike. Bye, guys. I'll see y'all. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Thank all of you. Thank you, Carla, and thank every one of yours. Thank you