Wayne County Commission, Full Commission (missed first 18 minutes)
3:35PM Jan 18, 2024
Speakers:
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Tony Guerriero
Ruba
Terrance Adams
Rob Widigan, CDFO
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allows for you to calculate your lost revenue during the pandemic and apply these dollars to those expenditures, it puts essentially can be changed so what we're doing is it turns these dollars from US Treasury grant dollars into wayne county dollars. And so now you see we're keeping the spirit of ARPA alive. These are still intended to be go towards Commission approved projects. However, it helps alleviate our reporting requirements and US Treasuries eyes their wayne county dollars no longer Treasury dollars. And in the timeline that I mentioned, you have to spend by 2026 is no longer a thing you can we can work together on our timeline to make sure these still go towards, as I mentioned, the spirit of ARPA, but it's just it's it's putting them basically in our hands versus being considered still grant dollars for the United States Treasury.
So once again, how does that impact the balance that we believe we had, I think it was wasn't $190 million that we had leftover. I
apologize. I see what you're asking. So you know, that the 190 was the back in May, was the data we had before. So just like when we do our normal annual budget for the commission, you know, MMB comes to you with with what they believe you know, snapshot of that time the budget will be as we went through and identify projects and eligible areas of expenditures. You know, the the true up showed it to be 179. So you have $179.8 million that will be obligate are considered obligating US Treasury and remaining for Commission approved projects.
Mrs. Carr, do you agree with what has been said about the balance?
The chair to the commission? I do and I'm also going to defer to Terrence Adams since he's on the line.
Hello, commissioners, Terrance Adam, chief fiscal visor Wayne County Commission in regards to the balance that Mr. Woody can state it is 179 quote unquote, ending fiscal year 2223. But I want to remind the commission that during the budget for 2324, there was 29 million that was budgeted to go to help help veterans in humans health, HHS, for various programs. So the balance is really about 150. And then the Commission also approved about $13.5 million for the recent contract. So we're really only looking at about 140. So million dollars is really, quote unquote, maybe the true balance for projects. And and, and Mr. Winokur was correct by saying commission for commission approval project mean that commission has to approve them, but it's not necessary commission initiated project. So want to make sure that that that we understand the terms that commission has approved whatever projects are put forward, but they might not be commission initiated projects to spin the remaining balance. Hope that answers your question. It does.
Thank you. Thank you tears Commissioner murky.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Rob. I don't even know if you know this if these funds aren't obligated anymore. We've given another batch of funds to cities and townships. Are they still going to be on a timeline per the county and these projects? Like they were obligated?
Yes. Commissioner. That's That's correct. So anything that was approved under batch one or batch two, those are still slurped dollars and they are being constantly monitored by Edd, director to Director Hassan is monitoring those to ensure US Treasury timelines are met. So let's just give a completely hypothetical. Under batch one, you gave a million dollars to a community. But they weren't. They were likely going to miss the timelines of obligating the dollars according to US Treasury. We would then have to have a discussion of how do we want to handle that. So there is a constant monitoring process by EDD to ensure that anything under slur for ARPA is meets US Treasury guidelines and is reported on a on a timely basis. Right
I understand it. That was four batches one and two but then we had another batch come out. And are those funds? I don't think I think what you're saying that those funds aren't obligated for a timeline.
Correct? Yes, anything that was approved under this this section? of dollars, the 179 would be considered as if Wayne County was giving their own dollars and there's no US Treasury guidelines. Right.
But are we still in here making these cities and townships adhere to a timeline like they were obligated? Maybe I'm making myself clear. They still gonna be told, like for instance, my city Lavonia is been told a timeline. Well, but they're in like batch three. Will they still be obligated through the county to follow that timeline, even though the monies aren't obligated anymore?
I hear what you're saying now commissioner and possibly director if director Hassan's in person, he might be the best but I see what you're saying yes, there will still be a timeline but it's it's let's you know, it's a work together EDD commission to determine how we want that timeline to go it would be
okay, as as Terence mentioned, these are the administration initiated projects, they'll bring them to us. Part of that vetting process from what I understand is one to make sure that they have the backfill funding to complete the project and that there are going to be timelines associated with any of the projects that come out of fun for 99. So there's still going to be timelines associated with any project when they recommend it to us so we'll have all that detail. And that's part of why it's taken so long, because like I mentioned it at our committee meeting. There are some of these projects where folks had stated that they had certain funding support, and those funding support have not come through yet. So we definitely want them to continue to vet these projects so that they can be seen through completion.
Thank you.
That helps Commissioner Murphy Yes,
thank you. Okay. And
because you know, this is an ongoing issue, not issue but ongoing situation, with spend these dollars. We will have another committee of the whole in the near future for the next couple of weeks next three to five weeks to talk about this further because we had a conversation back at the end of the year. We'll continue that conversation with EDC with the spin and the projects and then what is on the horizon for these ARPA dollars and answer some of those questions continuously because it's an ongoing issue. Until we get them off spent. Any microphone sir?
Care is the timeline we give in the community is that the federal timeline or its counties set time to give us time in case money was not spent it in one area to be able to move it to where it's needed. In different areas. I think there are two times
I think there's two times if I understand you can correct me if I'm wrong, as I understand it, the back to one to two because they were under the US Treasury. Those are under the 2026 timeline. But anything with these dollars in item number nine, those are all those are dollars. So they're not necessarily under the US Treasury guidelines. So a little bit more flexibility with the funds under item number nine that were in batch one and two, which were under the US Treasury Arbor guidelines. Hopefully that kind of helps. Okay, madam
chair, the like they recognize the auditor.
Or order. Oh, hello. Madam auditor, who the chair I just wanted to mention, I mentioned it also at the committee meeting. While I understand the timeliness with my discussions with the external auditors plant Moran because it wasn't completed by September 30 2023 will still result in an audit finding. Repeat that again, please, it will result in an audit finding because it wasn't completed by September 30 2023 in accordance with public act two. Thank you for that. So and I'm sure Mr. Wood again and his team is aware of that.
That's what we mentioned the committee strongly mentioned this is the only time we expecting to see this happen. Yeah.
Basically.
I'm sure yeah, I'm trying to follow the bouncing ball here a little bit on these dollar amounts. In my squib, there's two numbers. 132 million and I believe, and then the 170 9 million those two numbers together was that the original grant or whatever that we got from the federal government, the slurped dollars, those two numbers together 132 And 179 was that original amount from the feds?
Correct. Your original amount was 339,789,370. Okay, well, it
doesn't exactly add to 339. Why the difference? Because this adds to 310 or something.
Let me I'm gonna kick quarterback this to Sean from Alan Law Group to explain. Okay.
He's morning, everybody. Sean Farrell from the LM lager. Can you hear me? Yes. Thank you. So the 132 number and I would need backup from finance perhaps if Stacey, if you remember, let me know. But that was decertifying some revenue amount. That is not the other half of our award amount. That number would be I believe, 156 million somewhere around there. That's the batch one batch to all of the progress and funds that have been obligated under slough. This 179 is everything that was on obligated when we started this process of actually looking at the county's actuals so those two numbers, numbers will come together. I know there was a lot of activity decertifying And doing budgetary moves to get this budget adjustment through so I would need some help finance on the 132 Yeah, I
can take over Shawn and Commissioner so so your original number, it's 179870255 is what you're considering today. And the other half or batch one or two I guess we should call it is 159 150 9.9 And that comes to your 339.
A few months ago, we had taken that 179 and had parked it somewhere else by a commission action in order to what we're discussing today to preserve the dollars under the federal rules. And now we're taking a second action on that.
You are correct Commissioner so initially I went to your approval when sent the dollars to assigned fund balance. Right and the thought was, you know for commission for us to spend assigned fund balance right that has to come to commission for approval. So that part will still remain the same for us to spend these dollars it will still require commission approval but however in talking internally and also with our auditor. The problem with placing these dollars in assigned fund balance is essentially the auditor at the end would make us roll this up into overall county fund balance. This keeps it in a special capital projects fund these these projects. Most if not all go are capital can be considered capital projects. It will stay there will remain there won't get rolled up into any other funds. And then again it will be commissioned approved will bring the projects to commission. See
that's part of the paperwork here because it states in my paperwork, the amount of 179 that we're talking about, totaling zero in the newly created special capital projects funds how much money is going to be in the special capital projects fund.
It will be the full amount that were
allocated 179 Correct, sir. And okay. But see what I was trying to reconcile this to was were certified in revenue in the amount of 370 million into the general fund. If we're moving 179 million and I know what you're trying to do, and I want to get us there what's the 370 million then let's go on to the general fund certifying revenue there.
So the paperwork that you have before you is what it's it's doing is is trying to it's allocating these dollars into the special special capital projects fun, but then, you know, we need to do that we're identifying sources eligible government services that the dollars can be applied for, right so we're applying these to expenditures and moving equivalent the 179 into the capital projects fund, special capital projects fund.
So the relationship between that and the 370 million revenue in the amount of three 70 million into the general fund. How's that related to the 179?
So essentially, it's it's certification of revenue sources. And then decertifying in the mouth to it's kind of a Yeah, it's it's certifying revenue sources in the 379 and decertifying. revenue sources and uses and 132 and then certifying it into the special capital projects fund I
trying to 179 the 179 is in the 370
it yes so we're we Trude up the full total amount that the county received of the three your 300 million that we originally received. And then we compared it to what we brought to you before made adjustments which is where we got the 179
we are is we're making Glueck more clear where we have the pipe that we received from arpa. We certified that we used 159 of that. And there was left the 179 is what we're taught putting taking out of the ARPA and put it in the other fund so that we can have in our general fund to use unrestricted, if you will. So that's kind of the layman's overarching, the total pot minus what we spent equals was left and we're putting that so we can spend it outside of the Treasury guidelines.
And I'm still trying to the 370 million that we're certifying, or we certify in that revenue is the acid states into the general fund and then we're taking the 170 9 million out there and moving it to special capital projects. Do I have the correct understanding of the
that's my that's my understanding correct Mr. Wood again?
Yes, that what you just said? Yes. Sounds to be one I'm trying to say. Okay, well, thanks for the confusion.
If this is what we have to do to protect the dollars, that's terrific. And all right, those are my questions. Thank you Madam Chair.
Thank you any additional questions on the Ways and Means report? Right. Hearing none, please vote.
Aries.
Thank you. Next item, please. Report
see from the Committee on Health and Human Services. There are three items listed on pages seven and eight of the agenda. Commissioner Scott?
Madam Chair. I'd like approval of an item number one receive and file item two and three.
Support for that, please. Then moved to file item one, two and three for approval. It's been moved by Commissioner Scott supported by Mr. Killeen discussion Commissioner music.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to abstain on wanting to please
duly noted, I would like that insight to come please and speak to item number three please.
Yes, good morning, Dr. Abdullah say director health officer, Department of Health, human and veteran services. I know considering everyone's lost knowledge of the news and circumstance that I don't have to tell everybody that we are in the midst of an opioid epidemic and but for the COVID pandemic that fundamentally changed our lives for three years. This would be the public health challenge to which we would need to pay most attention. And to put the numbers in perspective in 2021, nearly 1000 people died of an opioid overdose. But it's not the same epidemic that we've been talking about for the past two decades. The nature of this challenge has changed with time. And it's changed because of the advent of a synthetic opioid called fentanyl. And what makes fentanyl so dangerous is a that it can be produced synthetically, unlike traditional opioids which have to be grown in a plant, which means that it drives down the cost of production. And then to it's 50 to 100 times more potent than traditional morphine. And because of that, the difference between a dose that someone might take that would have chemical activity in the brain versus a dose that could kill can be the difference of less than a milligram. And for that reason, the rate of fentanyl poisoning is exceedingly high. And then finally because it is so cheap, there is incentive to use it to cut other forms of street drugs. We're seeing a lot more cocaine that is laced with fentanyl. Certainly heroin that's laced with fentanyl, even marijuana that's laced with fentanyl and because of what fentanyl can do it is absolutely critical that the disease of substance use that too many suffer in our communities does not become a death sentence because of fentanyl. And so what we are proposing here today, pending this honorable body's approval is an opportunity for us to be leaders across this country in making sure that people have access to Naloxone otherwise known as Narcan, which is a medication that can swiftly fully overturn an opioid overdose taking somebody from being on the cusp of death. To being able to get up and walk around right afterwards. It really is pretty much as close as you get to a medical miracle. The challenge however, is that too few people have it. Up until a few years ago access to Naloxone was limited to first responders which meant that somebody was having an opioid overdose you'd have to literally call 911 They would have to come in and EMS and an EMS would have to administer Naloxone. Now I just want to remind you the way that opioids kill is that they stopped your midbrain from telling your lungs to take a breath. So what happens is you have profound hypoxia and then ultimately death. And so getting Narcan anywhere in everywhere is absolutely critical if we're serious about taking a chunk out of those 961 lives that were lost in 2021. And that is what this effort is is proposing to do. We're proposing to partner with the regional expert on Narcan access the central for the Center for Behavioral Health injustice at Wayne State University. Obviously an organization we all know well here. And they've already rolled out 30 Narcan vending machines, and we're proposing to roll out 100 more. Now, the way these vending machines would work is that somebody could go to the vending machine would be completely free. At the point of use. They could get Narcan and we're asking that people do this because we fundamentally believe that the critical intervention here is that everyone and anyone has Narcan on them. It's like a first aid kit for one of our most deadly challenges that we're facing. And so this effort is about getting Narcan anywhere and in everywhere. It is about making sure that folks have the opportunity to save a life if they see somebody who may be experiencing fentanyl poisoning. And, and doing so in a way that works in partnership with our local communities being evidence driven about where we know the burden of fentanyl poisoning is highest and then working to make sure that we are really flooding the zone with as much fentanyl actually excuse me because as much Narcan as possible to protect our communities from fentanyl. So, that is that is the effort for us today. And I want to remind you that this would be the single biggest municipal investment and Narcan access in American history. And we'd be doing it right here in Wayne County. And it is, to me the most logical and certainly the most apt first use of our opioid settlement dollars. And we feel like we can take a chunk out of fentanyl poisoning. We can save lives, and we have the opportunity to act and act fast.
Thank you doctor a couple of questions. One is the timeline for having the machines out and then the funding source for the for this deployment.
Yep, so the funding source is a combination of predominantly opioid settlement dollars as well as post we just had a whole conversation about about what we should post ARPA dollars we'll call them to to make this investment and then we'll be working with the CB h j. And as they say, in the community, you know, you want to move at the speed of trust. And so we don't want to be in a situation where we're anybody sees us as foisting vending machines upon them. And so what we're working with our colleagues is CVH J to do is to analyze the numbers to understand where the burden of fentanyl poisoning and overdose deaths is highest. And then think through where these vending machines ought to be and then work with local community groups, be they public. Governments are our cities and townships or private organizations that are interested in in in supporting this effort to place these vending machines and so you know, the the procurement of the vending machines is is a small part of it. It really is about building those relationships and making sure that we have everything we need to be able to access and and refill the machines as needed. So the plan is to deploy within the next year, aiming to get most of these out through the summer.
Thank you, Commissioner murky.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Well, you just answered my question, but thank you for having the community meeting yesterday. My communities around that call. I really appreciate them getting heads up on this type thing, in a general sense, but my biggest concern is the vending machine placement, and making sure that the leadership and the groups that you that the leadership have involved in this are part of the discussion on where these machines go, because that is my biggest concern. And I'm just curious, have you heard any feedback from first responders worrying about Narcan like shortages of all these type of machines or is that a pretty good flowing drug that's coming out?
Yeah. So let me step back and offer some context 80% of the time, when someone experiences in opioid overdose, they aren't home and 40 40% of the time someone else is there. And if you talk to first responders, as we have as we prepared for this project, almost all of them are. There is a fear that they come onto the scene and they're too late and so all of them feel like the next best approach beyond them carrying Narcan is that the community has access to Narcan, right because those 40% of folks who are right there in the home, if they have the Narcan they need and they understand how to use it. That's a life saved that doesn't have to wait for an EMS rig. To come and hit the house after a 911 call that the supply of Narcan is steady and we're working with the CBA. We'll be working with the state of Michigan to assure that that that supply stays steady and we've thought about you know, second and third options but we're not concerned about you know, there being a run on Narcan because of this project. And, you know, if anything, you know, industry sees it as a really important opportunity to get their product out there because they designed the product to save lives.
Okay, and just one quick question. I know there's gonna be an education component and this but I kind of brought it up yesterday. If someone is on the street and give someone their is their first thing to do after that is to call 911 Okay, yeah. So
So, all of this will be rolled out with a full communicate strategy, you know, it doesn't help if you don't know how to use it, or don't know how to identify somebody who needs it. So this project is being accompanied with a robust marketing strategy. And then certainly, at the point of the vending machine, there's going to be a lot of education that folks can access whether it's, you know, pamphlets themselves or a QR code that folks can can go take a look at and and watch a video about how to use these. What happens when you reverse an overdose is usually obviously you've just saved this person's life. But what tends to happen is they start to go into withdrawal, right? Because this is somebody who all of a sudden it's like you stripped their opioid from them and the challenge is that if they're not tended to, and they can't get the treatment that they need the risk of overdose following an overdose reversal is really high. And so it's really critical that folks understand that like this is this is not the end it's the beginning. You don't just sort of pat them on the back and walk away right you need to make sure that those folks get to care. And so that's going to be part of the effort here.
Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Madam
Chair. Welcome. Again. I appreciate the effort here. This couple of questions, the projection. What's your projection on how long does this amount of funding will last, but it's a
three year agreement and we intend to continue it forward. Opioid settlement dollars, you know, the the nature of this project is it's a high initial overhead, right, because you have to procure the vending machines and place them and then after that it's maintenance. And so the cost of the project goes down with time. Opioid settlements, at least the way that we understand them, and it's a moving target, they're projected to continue. Those dollars are projected to continue to come in for the next 18 years. So, you know, obviously we'd have to enter into a into a renewal and in this body would have to vote on that. But our intention is not to end the project after three years. But but to be able to continue going so long as we continue to see the kinds of challenges that we face.
I appreciate that I and we're not using we're not getting right now. Any state or federal dollars. It's strictly the opioids, opioid settlement funds, right.
So it's combination opioid settlement funds and post ARPA dollars, but predominantly opioid settlement funds. But the nature again of the opioid settlement structure is that we had a couple of big boluses of funding, and then other funding from other agreements comes in later on. So what we're trying to do is structure the project so that it it mirrors the structure of the funding coming in.
Thank you for that.
The MS. Commissioner Garza.
Thank you Madam Chair. I first My question was asked and answered. So I appreciate that but to Dr. ElSayed just wanted to say just how glad I'm able to see this in the county. This will undoubtedly save lives in our county and I'm glad to see that especially with the stigma around overdose in general. I think this is going to be a great thing and I'm really glad to see us being a trailblazer in this county. So thank you. Well,
welcome aboard and and thank you and, you know, just want to name check the incredible leadership of the county executive and the boldness of taking a step on this. You know, as you all well know, there is unfortunately a stigma around this and it has kept us from being able to save lives and get people to treatment. This is the first step of a longer walk around a more comprehensive opioid strategy. And, you know, that's, that's in large part because of the division and leadership with the county exec. So I really appreciate it.
Mr. Hayes
is you know it's a great anytime you spend money to save life money. program for 43 community is any municipal any the municipality require any financial support for that project by
the county will bear the full financial cost of the project and in training, all of it and we intend to, you know, to work in partnership we intend to place at least one unlikely more in every single municipality and the county
as you mentioned the use of that
go to the fire station learn about CPR.
Yeah, I really appreciate a question. So, as part of the project we intend, we budgeted for a mass marketing campaign and part of that is teaching people how to identify a an overdose, teaching people how to access Narcan and then teaching people how to deploy Narcan and what comes next. And so it's a lot less complicated than CPR right, which requires you to understand how to do chest compressions, etc. And it's something that we feel you have you have the opportunity to educate the public on if you make the investment and in this project includes that investment. The other part of it is, thankfully, there's just a lot more awareness of Narcan and how to use it in the community, particularly among people at higher risk. So you know, we want to continue to build on that and we want that the way we're thinking about it is this should be a part of every first aid kit, and this is the opportunity for someone you know, to save a life and everybody really should just have some Narcan on them. You really never know when you might run into somebody in your beatings and doings and, you know, our chief medical officer Dr. Shashi cares it in her purse, just because you really never know and so our goal is to be able to get that kind of saturation. And part of that, as you as you know is is making sure people understand how to identify when to use it and how to use it safely, inappropriately.
Using the product sometime person would miss
it for the type of
No, so I could I could spritz Narcan right now, and I'd be just fine. It only has impact in folks who are suffering opioid toxicity. So, in that respect, there's there's no potential for abuse, and there's no potential for you know, a negative consequence. If you come upon someone and you say, you know, this person could either be, you know, have had a heart attack five minutes ago, or they could be overdosing and I don't really know. So let me just use the Narcan and then do chest compressions, right. And you could do both of those at the same time. In fact, EMS does that often and there will be no negative consequence of the Narcan use.
Thank you, Mr. Commissioner clean.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Just following the money here, again, the initial 3.6 million we talked about this committee that's going to come from American Recovery Act dollars.
A small proportion of it will, the majority of it will come from opioid settlement dollars. Yeah. Now,
the opioid settlement is over 18 years. I think that we receive an allocation each year for aid and how much is that?
So it's a moving target. We're estimating in the $60 million range. Part of the reason I say that what range $60 million a year, no $60 million total. Okay. And part of the reason I say that it's a it is a moving target is that some of the companies that have had settlements awarded against them have claimed bankruptcy and so it's not clear that you can bank on that money. The other point that I had tried to make earlier is that while this will the bulk of the money will come over 18 years, the bulk of the money will come in the first four or five years, right. Some are paying a lump sum and some are paying over 18 years. So what will happen is you get a couple of really big boluses of opioid settlement dollars, followed by a consistent spritz of opioid settlement dollars over 18 years. And so we really want to front end, right the high infrastructure types of projects like this one, and then over time, make sure that that that money over time becomes ineffective tail that can maintain the operations of a project that's already been built. Do you
think the lawsuit dollars are going to be able to pay for this project at least over 18 years?
That's the plan.
Is the county involved in any other opioid lawsuits? I know there's a bunch of them out there. Are we involved in any other opioid case right now?
No, no.
This is it.
Oh, okay. Yeah, there's there was a big omnibus case. Yeah, yeah. Thanks. So
Thank you. Any additional discussion on the Health and Human Services report? Thank you, doctor for the initiative, your discussion, very informative and educational for all of us, and we look forward to this. Save you lives. So thank you.
Thank you for your support. We
appreciate you. hearing no further discussion, please vote.
Motion carries and I have Commissioner Ken easic as an abstention on items one and two.
Thank you so much. Next item,
we're moving to report D from the Committee on audit. There is one item listed permission to Kinesis
Thank you, Madam Chair. I move adoption of the report
moved and supported a discussion on the audit report. Any discussion on the audit report? Hearing none, please vote.
Motion carries.
Next item please. We are on
report E from the Committee on Public Safety, judiciary and homeland security. There are three items listed on pages eight and nine of the agenda
Mr. Clark Coleman. Thank you Madam Chair. I move that we receive and file item number one and move approval of item two in theory. Move by Commissioner clerk club is supported by Commissioner Kinloch. Discussion Commissioner clean
Thank you Madam Chair. Item number two. Glad to see this come into my neighborhood. Is this Well, a couple of things about this. What's going to be black family development's role other than a financial role that they will have for this grant. And I got a couple other questions too.
Good morning through the chair Tony Guerrero, Chief of legislation, grants and Community Relations for the prosecutor's office. This is a sub award agreement the role of black family development is primarily to act as a conduit for the funds this will pay for the salary and benefits of one prosecutor's office law intern through the grant that comes from the US Department of Justice. This is primarily targeted at gun crime reduction, Project safe neighborhoods and attempting to stem the problems that are running in the ninth precinct. There is no county match to these funds. Black Family Development works very well with us and they in fact, are handling the funds
and they do a lot of community justice work on the site was a black family development that secured the grant. Sorry, sir, was a black family development that secured the grant.
No, the grant was secured by our office and we had to do a sub word with black family development. And
it's one year of funding the grant. So we have it's one year funding.
We're hoping that this will be renewed year after year but this was one Yeah.
Okay. So it's that's the situation we're in one year of funding and we hope we get it renewed. missioner
I'm sorry, but what we're doing basically is extending through September of this year to the end of the 2024 fiscal year. And then beyond that, and beyond that word again, we're hoping that it will be renewed but I can't tell you that it is and
then how are we going to evaluate this grant in this position? In terms of outcomes? Essentially,
we're trying to keep track of statistics as far as how many gun crimes are I don't want to use the term arrested but in essence, how many arrests are made, how many guns are are confiscated, and hopefully destroyed as they're supposed to be?
In your reporting of prosecutors reporting back to the commission, I'd like to get some data on this. Be happy to do so see what the efficacy of these things are. There's over in the ninth precinct. We're in ShotSpotter heaven over there baby. Look at about every third telephone pole and you'll see one so the efficacy of this is what I'm interested in hearing back from the prosecutor.
The ninth precinct keeps our office pretty busy. Yes,
sir. Keeps the Juvenile Detention Facility pretty busy as well. So thank you. Hope this has an impact. I will make certain that we get you the statistics. Thank you Madam Chair.
And then any further anything further, Madam Chair, I
have a question from Commissioner Hayden's. I'm not sure if it's for you or not.
When I'm chair you just mentioned is some of those countries.
in Wayne County, those can must be destroyed.
To the best of my knowledge, Commissioner word, not experiencing a problem that they are in other parts of the country. were confiscated guns that are supposed to be destroyed are not in fact destroyed. They're stripped apart, and the component parts of the guns are being sold. Whereas the I'm going to call it the body of the gun itself is destroyed to ISIS saved to the best of my knowledge. We're not running into that problem at all. That appears to be a problem. In other states. Yes.
Mr. Kolb?
Item number two. I think that Commissioner Kinloch would like me to make her have the motion, because that's in his district. All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Anderson
20 to ask the chair of the committee wish she would allow me to be the maker of the motion on number three. Leslie, thank you. Thank you.
Any additional questions on the public safety report? Thank you, Tony. Thank you. Hearing none please vote.
Motion carries and have Commissioner Kinloch as the maker of the motion on item number two and Commissioner Anderson maker of the motion item number three.
Thank you.
Next time we are on report F from the Committee on Government Operations. There are five items listed on pages nine and 10 of the agenda. missioner
Clemente
Thank you Madam Chair. I'd like to move the agenda for approval.
It's been moved by Commissioner Clemente supported by Commissioner halos. The government operations report, the five items on that report any discussion or any other five items? Any discussion on the governor operations reports? Hearing none, please vote.
Motion carries.
Thank you Next item.
We're on page 10 of the agenda upcoming meetings.
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there is an unlisted we're moving to testimonial resolutions and certificates of appreciation. There is one item listed.
I will approval of the one item for testimony resolutions. Will that Commissioner Kinloch quarterback Mr. murky in discussion hearing none please vote.
Motion carries.
Next item were memorials there are more names listed it would anyone like to add any names to the memorials at this time Commissioner halos? Thank
you. It is I like to add the name of sigma. Sadly June she's the wife of my uncle. Pass We Day before yesterday. She'd been married to my uncle for 63 years. They raise a family of seven kids whom they all live in Michigan. Successfully all married in all doing well. Due to a mother who really was on hand to raise her kids. No one my uncle. He was the push over with the kids but that lady left a great impression on me and my family. How to raise a family. He'll be a mess. Thank you for allowing me.
Oh, sorry for your loss. We'll keep you and your family in our prayers. Commissioner. Commissioner clean. Thank
you Madam Chair. I want to add a name we're gonna get a resolution done but I want to add the name of Pete wall Meyer. Maybe some of you young kids don't know people. He was forever at the Detroit News. Op Ed actually at the Killeen household at dinner. Not our favorite columnist quite often. He is a he was a resident as well as the son Pete Jr. who served on Grosse Pointe farms Council. But a legend in the Detroit media however you felt about that he was a legend. So want to remember Pete today and we'll do a resolution. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Commissioner and all of our names will be on there to help. Thank you, sir. Mr. Kinetic.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I also wanted to add the name and I'll make sure we get the spelling over here afterwards, but Monsignor James Maloney from St. Anselm parish. Folks who are on the commission may recognize that name because two invocations ago, Monsignor Maloney provided the invocation to us as one of my guests and so he didn't join in person because he was unable to make it downtown but he joined us on Zoom. He was ordained a priest in Detroit in 1956 and had been leading at St. Anselm parish since 1978. passed away recently at the age of 93. And so I wanted to add him to our list today as well. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank
you so much, Commissioner. Glad he had an opportunity to provide us that invocation. Mr. Anderson?
Thank you, Madam Chair. And and I would ask Mr. Ken easic on this issue. It's I just attended a ceremony, remembrance ceremony for ink stirs senior director, longtime director, she had been that for 50 years. And prior to that, so during high school, as a co op student, she had worked with that department and as as I had represented Inkster previous to the changes in our districts. They reached out to me and, and, and I was there yesterday, but anyway, just to add her name in her name is Denise champagne. longtime member on behalf of myself and in Commissioner can easy.
Thank you, Mister. Thank you so much. Any additional names Aaron not everyone please stand for a moment of silence
Thank you. Keep all other family members in our prayers during this difficult time. Next time, public comments to anyone on Zoom for public comments. In one on Zoom for public comments. Anyone on the telephone
a anyone in the audience wish to give public comments at this time. Anyone in the chambers would like to give public comments come to the podium you have two minutes. Any emails on email?
Dear commissioners, please stand up against the Biden administration's efforts to see us sovereignty to the World Health Organization via amendments to the International Health Regulations and the pandemic preparedness treaty. Please defund or restrict funding to any county departments that enforce World Health Organization edits. Please also stand against hr 3557 and HR 4141 in Congress which seek to strip away state and local control and permitting cell tower placements and defund or restrict funding. To county departments that enforce these bills should they become law. Remember in Federalist 33, Alexander Hamilton wrote that lower level governments have the right to treat X by the federal government that are not pursuant to the Constitution as acts of usurpation.
It's the one email Yes. Okay. Thank you so much. Next item,
reconsiderations.
There are none remarks by members for remarks by members. Let me just publicly congratulate our fiscal advisor Mr. Terris, Adams and the birth of his baby girl. Taryn January 10 10, six pounds 15 ounces. So congratulations Terrence. You're now a girl dad to go with your son and I will look forward to you getting some sleep and getting back with us when you get a chance. Congratulations Terrence. Tell your wife of course the biggest congratulations and take care of her during these these precious few weeks with the baby girl any remarks by members? Ooh, snow. Catch you all quiet today. remarks by members. Okay. Well, I will say that our next meeting will be on February 1. And on that day, we will have our Black History Month celebration. It'll be coordinated by Commissioner McClaren Coleman. So we look forward to a wonderful celebration for Black History Month and a Black History Month Luncheon afterwards. Again, remarks by members. Hearing nah. Commissioner Scott, do we have one? Chair? Yes.
I would just like to my colleagues to know she used to work here for a while. My granddaughter Christina Tice. She graduated last night as a registered nurse.
Awesome. Congratulations. Yes. We need more nurses. So congratulations. And she has the field wide open of her choice of employers. So
congratulations to a large graduating group last night. Oh, I
love it. We need nurses. So that's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. One more time for remarks by members. Next title,
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lions. Go lions. Yes, I have to be the Jared. Thank you. All right.