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And he actually told me to get out of the race. And literally, he told me to get other race. So him and I always kind of butted heads like this. And so after it was all said and done, he, he never let off the gas. And he came, he went on Fox and said his number one goal that one year or the year after I was two years after I was elected, was to make sure I didn't get reelected. So you talk about politics. Yeah. I just I just ignored it. I just didn't pay attention to never addressed it. Never did. I just did my thing. That's it. Yeah. You have to have thick skin. Yeah. Doesn't bother me. Unless someone comes up and actually hits me in the face. Whatever.
Mentioned that he's a candidate for Senate. That would be awesome. We will we'll do that in the anchor lead, when we lead into the interview.
Carson Markwayne Mullin, thank you so much for joining us again, on the Capitol Report.
Absolutely. Stay thanks for having me
again. Congressman, title 42 is set to be rescinded in just a couple of weeks from now was title 42 able to curb the flow of illegal?
Well, it basically looks from the health perspective, President Trump put this in place to to combat COVID. And it specifically targets males traveling by themselves. So we use the word single males, but it's not that they're single, but they're traveling by themselves. And once they're apprehended, if there's no reason for them to be there for true, claiming truly claiming asylum, then we have unreachable 42 underneath health restrictions, because we're still battling COVID, you got to remember, the Democrats just asked for another $15 billion in COVID relief. Since we're still ballin COVID, we were able to deport the individual traveling by himself. And this has been the only tool left for us to actually from the Trump era to actually deport individuals, you got to remember, deportation, right now is that a 26 year low. So basically, only tool we still have to deport individuals, these are males traveling by themselves. Under is under Title 42. That's why the chief of border patrol had said that if we rescind this, they expect an influx of an additional 500,000 crossings. And keep in mind, Steve, he's also said that he expects by June for us to hit the 1 million mark with title 42 in place. So we're talking about a 50% increase. And an illegal crossings if title 42 is rescinded.
It's unbelievable. So if you could just tell us what the significance is, or why there is a differentiate, you know, differentiating factor on the male versus, you know, families and female.
Well out of the eye. As you know, I said on hypsi, which is a House Intelligence Committee. It's a House Permanent, select committee for intelligence. And it and when I was down there, just recently, we I was down there with the Border Patrol, we actually got on horseback rode to places that your most members don't go to. And afterwards we went to a skiff, which was a secured area for us to get briefings and, and they were talking about the significance of the single male, the individuals that they're apprehending. A lot of times when they hold on two or three days because of title 42, they also do a background check. And this is where you've heard of the 11 individuals that we caught that was on the terrorist, most wanted watch list, we apprehended them, because we were able to hold them for a few days. And it was actually on day three, that we found that some of them were on American most on the the terrorist most wanted list. So a title 42 actually gives us an opportunity for us to look at that background, why we're waiting to deport them without title 42 A lot of these individuals are literally being released into the United States within 24 hours. I mean, so there's no time for that actually to take place. You're probably not seeing too many family members that are truly family members traveling that's on the terrorist watch list, right? And so the most individuals are seeing that are traffickers, especially sex traffickers, drug traffickers, or terrorist are these single males that are coming through so why title 42 was specifically for COVID relief and a health. What we come to find out is this is a very strong tool to help combat national security risks that's coming across the southern border to
know Congressman, you mentioned that title 42 was tied into the pandemic right measures and whatnot. You said that there's requests for billions of dollars in pandemic relief. 15 billion 15 billion. We're also seeing that there's a federal mandate still for wearing math. Yes. So I'm just trying to understand how, you know, one would apply in one direction, but not in the other. And,
Steve, if you can figure that one out, let me know. And I'm just going to tell you this, this administration hasn't made sense since they started it, we're in a disaster situation to begin with. But for them to say that they're willing to entitle 42 Because there's not a COVID crisis anymore. At the same time, saying there is a COVID crisis, and we needed another $15 billion dollars to combat it. And oh, by the way, you still got to wear a mask, if you're on mass transit. There's nothing about that, that says that the decisions they're making, or anything but one thing, they want an open border. That's they want amnesty complete, because they want the border completely open. I had a conversation with with a good friend of mine, in 2014, who was a Democrat, and I'll leave his name out of it. But Nancy Pelosi came over to us while we're sitting there talking, and she says what is this? It's either amnesty or nothing, as you turn around, walked away. That was in 2014. Steve, that mindset hasn't left is still a double down process to what they want. Now, why they want an open border. I honestly for the life of me don't understand, because it's a national security risk. Now Pelosi gets the same briefings that I get, because the briefings I get on the House Intelligence Committee are a lot of times found in the President's briefings, the Speaker of the House, and the leader of the minority party, both gets both gets the same briefings. She knows what type of national security risks this is. And so does the President knighted states, but yet they're ignoring it.
You know, the other question that it raises, not just national security, but also the issue that you've spoken about, which is fentanyl, which is killing, you know, 1000s. And I think it was 100,000 people in the United States right, overdosed on this drug, which is predominantly coming through the southern border. At what point or is there a point where the federal government can enact an emergency measure? Or is it going to be up to the states,
or even goes farther than that to fentanyl? A lot of times it's coming into South America, North America, Central America, from China. So let's not forget about China's role in this. And so far to date. Our last number we had they've apprehended over 11,000 pounds of fentanyl. Now, that's more fentanyl. And then then what then honestly, then what we need to sell the United States because it could kill now we don't need any of it. But it could kill every single American saw the United States. It I mean, that's just crazy. And they're ignoring that fact, when I was on the southern border. When we were when we were riding horseback, what we saw was a horse trailer. It pulled up to a house and the Border Patrol agent said stop, hold on, watch this. And now the house came a whole bunch of individuals and they put it in this cattle trailer, just like what I would load cattle up because I'll be backing up to a fence and I'd have to herd them in. Well, they were literally just walked out the house and got in this trailer began by themselves. They drove them about two miles or three miles down the border, let them out. And they crossed in order for us to build a go and apprehend them. Now what he said is he said this is a human crisis issue. This is a humanitarian issue. We have to address this on right now. But I can tell you what's happening behind us. They're smuggling drugs across, which has fentanyl because they're using this knowing that this is what this is. They saw us they know how many people we have out here. So they're distracting us because they know that what are our priorities are an hour or so humanitarian because they dropped them in the middle of the desert. And they know that we have to save them. But they're they're they're they're bringing illegal drugs behind us. No question about it. Once again, this administration knows that and yet, they're going to now flood the border even more when they rescind title 42. We're going to double our increase in the illegal crossings by 50%. And that base means it's going to be more distraction is going to overrun the Border Patrol and they're going to spend all their time trying to apprehend illegal crossers and, and for humanitarian reasons, and that while at the same time, they're just going to blow the doors wide open on even more of a drug problem that we have inside the United States.
Well, I'm just going to switch gears a little bit here. Sure. Tomorrow, there's oil executives expected to testify in The Hill tomorrow. The Democrats are set to start probing them on price gouging using the Ukraine crisis to their advantage to make more money. I just want to get your opinion is that the reason that we're seeing record high gas prices?
This this just goes to the philosophy of our Democrats right now. You know, if you're on the Hill right now, you'll see a large sum of Democrats that are wearing a button that says so socialist Democrats, socialism is absolutely key to what they're doing here. And what I mean by that is the government distracts people by saying, Hey, we put these policies in place, but don't pay attention to us. It's really not us. It's these greedy executives. See, this is why the government needs to take control of everything. Because if we're a controller, we can control this, we wouldn't ever gouge the people. But that's what socialism is. They won't dare talk about it's the policies that the Biden put in place from day one from January 20, from day one, that depend that put our dependency more on foreign oil, rather than marching towards the policies that Trump had, which was putting us in the path to energy independence. So all they're doing is just distracting the American people by trying to blame somebody else, when the whole time they know that it's the large government, which is socialism. It's the overtaking of private industry, which is what socialism is, that's failing here. I mean, you got everything that have touched, the border is failing. Our net, our international interest is failing. Our energy independence doesn't even exist. We're not even trying to get there anymore. So we become more dependent on foreign oil, especially Russia, so has nothing to do with the amount that we've increased 40% of our imports from Russia, just says binds been an office that has anything to do with pricing. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that they're canceling pipelines for us bill to transport stuff to the market. It doesn't have anything to do with that they've limited the flow rate in almost all of our pipelines across the United States, which congest our distribution system for our products doesn't have anything to do with that with the the policies they put in place as causing the price to go up. It has everything to do with what they've done. But they want to blame the executives,
candidate for United States Senate in Oklahoma, Congressman Mark way Mullen. Thank you. Thank you see