no, it was like then another time. What happened is my other nephew, who's a bit older, and the same niece, Annie and Teddy. This was the other one, was Gilbert. So they got into an issue where they had made popsicles, you know, out of ice cubes, and then Annie had eaten Teddy's popsicle, and he was really upset, and he ran to his bed, and he laid in his bed, you know, with his arms crossed, and he wasn't going to talk to anyone, you know. And you know, my brother, toxic brother and sister in law, you know, their thing is, it's just, you're wrong, you know, you get punished or whatever. Right? It's like it's sort of a punishment. And she said, Okay, well, show me how you handle it. You know, so I went over there, he's in bed, and I said, Oh, do you want to tell me what happened? And he just shook his head, you know, like, I'm not going to even talk. It's okay. What I'm hearing is you just don't want to talk about it. You know, you're you're just feeling upset. Is that right? And then so I just kind of, and he just was really quiet. And then, and I kind of reflected a few times, you know, trying to be he would his signals, emotional signals, were only shaking his head or nothing. And I just reflective, actually, you don't want to talk about it, and you're feeling upset. And and then Annie came over, and so she was there, and I started, I said, What's going on with you? And and then I reflected back, oh, I ate his popsicle, and, you know, I'm sorry about it, or something like that. And and I reflected back, and, you know, tried to get him to speak, but he would, he would still be really quiet. And then I. Remember exactly how it unfolded. But Annie said, Well, I said, Well, what can we do? And I said, Well, I can make him a new popsicle. And then he brightened up, and then they both jumped up and made a popsicle. And that was that. And there was no judging anyone or saying you're bad, don't you do this? It was, you know, empathically, getting them to dialog with each other, and or, and I act as facilitator, because he wouldn't even dialog, but I did reflect back what he was saying, non verbally, you know. And then, yeah, yeah.