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Board of Police Commissioners
Speaker 1
00:00police commissioners, their civic duties of supervision and oversight. Dispatch. Businesses say that all in every one of them it may serve to your peaceful purposes for the city of Detroit and her law enforcement officers remembering the accounting almost
Unknown Speaker
00:18last Green Day. Amen.
Jim Holley
00:22Thank you
Commissioner Ferguson
00:25Sabra. So, first of all humbly asked the audience to give me five minutes or five minutes because quarter quarter. Yes, he hasn't checked in he or she hasn't checked. In yet. So we're still trying to get
Unknown Speaker
00:56great scratch off
Commissioner Ferguson
00:59once again, my name in the person on the board or commission chairperson and I'm gonna start off at first I want to say well
Commissioner Ferguson
01:18I released a media release today. So I'm gonna read that and the OPC shows community accountability and transparency. The Border Police Commission are currently under investigation by the auditor general office of the Detroit Police Department, internal affairs unit and in the current board and staff leadership some or all of these investigations were initiated because inconsistencies discoverable by commissioners and staff who recognize the importance of transparency, accountability and fiscal responsibility. And the border police commissioners are committed to be fully cooperated with these investigations and given an opportunity for due process and warranted any employee will be brought before the board for determination after investigations and in the meantime, operate in the best interests of the residents of the city of Detroit by taking the necessary measures to maintain the security and integrity of all ethics limiting and or removing access to the OPC offices, citizens complaint writers, personnel records and or operational citizens baseball team or actual risks and the best management practice. We appreciate the community's patience and support as the board growing pains of improving transparency accountability and Fiscal Responsibility in order to provide a full report will be made available to the community upon completion this is why this is its report
Commissioner Ferguson
03:41this all right. This is one of the hardest things to
Commissioner Ferguson
03:54come in in. I noticed paths from when I was hired. But I didn't ask questions everyone asked my entire career but are going along honesty, transparency and integrity. And I will not say again when not I will not sacrifice
Speaker 2
04:36Oh criminals. Please stop.
Commissioner Ferguson
04:45Stop doing what you're doing. Because if you're gonna get caught yesterday it was it was fast. Searching for that monster a euro. So you see us community communities coming up. Coming up and then it's often
Commissioner Ferguson
05:22in my heart who.
Commissioner Ferguson
05:32Long you wake
Unknown Speaker
05:39up and then nor will
Commissioner Ferguson
05:47we hit hard. Right Okay. As a reminder, that administrators team is launching a community contract collection, collection campaign. administrative team is a community Content Collection campaign in preparation to increase engagement
Commissioner Ferguson
06:31so if you have contact information of any
Commissioner Ferguson
06:41please
Unknown Speaker
06:47Yes, recording in progress
Commissioner Ferguson
07:00so
Unknown Speaker
07:16Okay, so starting with Chairman person
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07:28at large
Commissioner Bernard
07:31No, just before coming to Oakland everyone. Burton miniature
Unknown Speaker
07:54no more has an excused absence and thanks
Commissioner Ferguson
08:06so you see how that one shouldn't meet up
Unknown Speaker
08:14here
Commissioner Ferguson
08:18um, so, getting back to that please know, I've been in contact Yes.
Unknown Speaker
08:28You guys doing
Unknown Speaker
08:30okay
Commissioner Ferguson
08:40the markets second any discussion? All in favor? Aye. All holes. Motion
Commissioner Ferguson
09:04and it is all in favor. All has been approved. Can we go to
Speaker 3
09:21four. We have presenter today. Dr. Jackson. We also have Robert Brown, Kansas Hayes Underwood. King era as long as 24 Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
10:04There
Commissioner Ferguson
10:20representatives
Speaker 3
10:22we already had Thank you. And we also have overall from Tyrone Carter's office. All right.
Commissioner Ferguson
10:35Well, we can already gay sorry about that.
Commissioner Ferguson
10:51So if you can manage and try to get those contracts. You can make sure we can get in contact. A lot. Of community
Commissioner Ferguson
11:20Yes,
Speaker 4
11:21and email all or even that we could be allowed to present at various council meetings because you indicated earlier term and a lot of citizens need to be better educated. And where does this
Unknown Speaker
11:59come from
Unknown Speaker
12:06was for community advisory panel
Speaker 5
12:21for members that are home recovering when I was 14 We have a total of five last week
Speaker 5
12:42back up again homicides last year, seven reversal last year, and our average is 14 cents. Total time we're at a 5% increase with partners doing everything they can to try that number down.
Speaker 5
13:19Unit 34 People are being hounded me too because some of the some of the assets had a weapon with us today we're moving on to the mental health service. We are seeing an uptick versus last year. Just pure total call service seven which is about a 15% increase over last year.
Commissioner Ferguson
13:58Just as thought
Speaker 5
13:58every category has gone slightly versus call with non violent armed we're seeing now
Unknown Speaker
14:15incident that happened that happened I don't want to get the details are just horrific. The community across the city trying to help and support do we tend to find this person one thing I would
Unknown Speaker
14:43ask but stop
Speaker 5
14:49asking her if she needs anything at this time so yeah. But there was a lot of discussion. We were asking to give you this time and time
Unknown Speaker
15:09to work through this.
Speaker 5
15:11Again, anytime you have to take anything you've seen that a person walking in to do that releases media will take any anything you have
Speaker 5
15:26to come home and sleep well afternoon
Unknown Speaker
15:45fishmarket fired father. Time with three other individuals allegedly tried to rob the place. They exchanged gunfire we
Speaker 5
16:05were trying to pursue charges we're having a very difficult time at this point was victim cooperation. So much more to do on that. We were looking at I didn't have any information at all please you have for us
Speaker 5
16:40the victim was beaten pretty severely. Broken Bones is face and everything else in the vehicle, near Southfield was made just a rough weekend. Happy to report this individual is charged four and 750,000. Some positive news we had a work day as part of our efforts
Speaker 5
17:35we received nine interested participants came in and did their initial paperwork to various shows.
Unknown Speaker
17:53A positive appreciation letter from an anonymous person 100 Louder social media which is really really nice to hear.
Commissioner Ferguson
18:08Most days.
Speaker 5
18:10Posts received a significant engagement 1005 People with 414 likes so very excited about that. Tomorrow we'll be doing real time workshop from 930 to 937 Easy scramble our topics include mental health, physical health, social media education, dating islands and much much more. So now that I really was put on by the as my report
Commissioner Ferguson
18:49you know, we have a lot of
Commissioner Ferguson
18:58Hey
Commissioner Ferguson
19:13Tom talking marking off windows in the past right. So, is there any, you know, talking points that some of the managers
Jim Holley
19:29do a roll call to
Commissioner Ferguson
19:33remind that Yeah. We have
Unknown Speaker
19:40the training all the time. teletypes for the same type of things are all kind of most of the time
Unknown Speaker
19:58we certainly reach out to all the local
Commissioner Ferguson
20:09eager, eager, a little bit more respectful
Commissioner Ferguson
20:17of our citizens complaints a lot that some officers right away
Commissioner Ferguson
20:31that's definitely part of what was in the nice. We really need that miniature thanks
Unknown Speaker
20:51thank you
Commissioner Banks
20:58commander. Cheer not a
Speaker 5
21:14strong woman that needs a lot of recovery. So we'll leave it at that. She's just an incredible, incredible woman when
Unknown Speaker
21:31she said her and her husband so Wow, incredible. Okay,
Commissioner Banks
21:37I get one more to you know, we have people on dating violence. Okay, now, we know that there's a lot of women in me and I'll hear that dream man. How to educate. I mean, what is teaching in his day look, dating violence. Do you get any yet can you put anything out here?
Commissioner Banks
22:14Great
Commissioner Bernard
22:27One, when a woman or man is sexually assaulted, and we've made
Commissioner Bernard
22:41that happen and also just wanna remark on what you said about the to remind everyone just how strong women really are, really are strong men character standpoint from an emotional standpoint. And I'm very, very happy to hear that as she demonstrated to you and to the members of the department.
Unknown Speaker
23:30uniform.
Jim Holley
23:38Shirt
Unknown Speaker
23:40long sleeve uniforms
Jim Holley
23:52come to me
Jim Holley
24:10is basically all
Jim Holley
24:17in terms of people have been arrested and prosecuted.
Jim Holley
24:34Crime is
Speaker 6
24:38have to remember the overall closure rate
Jim Holley
24:51is a little bit higher don't know what's going
Unknown Speaker
25:06to happen
Jim Holley
25:13numbers on all of them. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You Through you, Mr. Chairman. Yes.
Jim Holley
25:29In terms of the fact that we had has ever read and I was promised that if that's the case
Jim Holley
25:49to why we were given a moped to determine we know, time, time and most likely we need to talk about full time. Commissioner sometimes
Jim Holley
26:13we need to be very crowded. So I'm asking you staff that we
Jim Holley
26:30I'm embarrassed by the fact that we basically had three harassments on file. I should have did everything leading me also, to share this picture through the chair to help us with you as cheap as possible.
Jim Holley
27:21Discussion. I appreciate you. Allow me to to have this conversation with you.
Commissioner Ferguson
27:34You read it you
Jim Holley
27:37just told you don't
Jim Holley
27:46I basically this is my fault. I should have picked it up. I do feel like I paid this. Fair. Ask him that it's not trying to cute on me. I should have picked it up. I didn't want it I hope you have this
Jim Holley
28:31up you
Jim Holley
28:43thank you so much.
Speaker 4
28:48Thank you chair. Um, you mentioned that there was a job fair, and we received an email from Commissioner banks to really kind of request that she organize a recruiting.
Commissioner Banks
29:12I mean, they're not at this time last year.
Speaker 4
29:18Okay. minutes. Could you see where schedule is something that we can report back to? You
Commissioner Ferguson
29:34okay. And if you haven't you like to go out to Mr. Braun? raise a hand and you get two minutes to speak. Thank you. Thank you. We're gonna roll to oral comments.
Unknown Speaker
30:01Currently how I'll call those.
Speaker 7
30:20Good afternoon board. I'm Mr. Singh. There's an old adage is for
Unknown Speaker
30:32a fish
Speaker 7
30:33rots from the head. So if most of my comments are directed to the chairperson, is because I believe that's where a lot of the problems are. First, I think you were misleading in your opening statements. The inspector general's investigation was a surprise rate. And a lot like so many others surprise ratings is a fear that the corruption is so pervasive that the things the documents to people can be manipulated. Your comments about community outreach, no one knows what the Board of Commissioners does. Anyone wants to surprise your lack of addressing police officer for years makes you irrelevant. And people don't care what you do anymore. And I say this because it has documented numerous times by investigative reporters. This voids the lack of activity and focus on police officers is well documented. And so this week's investigative report that detail why an officer with so many complaints of serious battery steel was allowed to be promoted. It makes me understand you are because at that promotion, you offer your personal and professional assistance to each and every one of those officers being promoted. It was a clear violation of any conflict of interest. That anyone should ever know. Take my time
Speaker 8
32:57community activists last week as plane last week, I explained why meetings. I did not inform you that several years. Some of the largest churches in our city asked him to say something to improve our city and not just give a feel the sermon on Sunday, receive money and leave. I received responses from on Thursday, saying there was so much discord. Some of the commissioners were yelling at each other, as I've said before, so the commissioner seems to me and have discussions about concerns and perhaps this unprofessional behavior. It seems to be saying without too much thought is what you're saying or hearing. As I said last week, I come to learn and receive information. When she winds up giving their reports they are often asked to contact our communities need to hear from the chief and not only in the crimes test, but I can't recall any ideas that the board suggested to help make changes and instead I have heard complaints and criticism wise how they are working to lower the stats on crime. I haven't even heard Commissioner asked too wide. How can they help? I will refer you to one of their Michael Jackson. So the demand we all can do something and let's be about the business. We have children thank you
Speaker 9
35:23I'm with the charter is with these standards, session seven dash 818. And my concern as the least volunteer is that we have four things that I come to you to address. One of them is we don't have the proper proper training. The second one is we don't have the equipment to work with. The third is as of April 1, we are going from 16 hours to 24 hours. It was mandated so we were told by Chief white and the fourth thing is that we need to be more of a team player and not always criticize people and that's
Unknown Speaker
36:34the chair
Speaker 4
36:34I were building and we fall to your commander. And in the past I know that the reserves have made a presentation to the board as to what it is you're doing and I was just gonna pass on universe. We requested that the commander contact our fears to the war on our agenda. So we can make that happen. I believe that
Speaker 9
37:15because we have the TV or some things I will not say publicly until two years
Speaker 4
37:27pass. We prepared a presentation by the reserves and again as to keep the board current because I know it's been two years so we can follow through for a little second years to happen. We'd appreciate it.
Unknown Speaker
37:48Thank you so much.
Unknown Speaker
37:56Thank you for
Unknown Speaker
37:59the role of Austin.
Commissioner Ferguson
38:14Afternoon
Unknown Speaker
38:16today I see the impact impacts lack of resolve
Speaker 10
38:35and we simply cannot afford to go to police or to go to any error we resolve every loss of miles or periods simply put $30 million and I got two papers here from lawsuits there's no chief over here says Yeah. I believe and I got a call asking for coffee but the only way you can regain trust is through transparency and accountability. Are you worried at all punishment anyway is not supportive of a share or any investigation is taken directly out of the mouths of our children. For overcrowding facilities to a poverty in addition, it starts here. You cannot enforce any laws. If you're a law enforcement or not and of course, is as a slap in the face or traffic light now if you're so accountability stars here and we give this chair all anybody in here at the bottom line accountability. We asked him for magic
Commissioner Ferguson
40:29Thank you sir. Thank you so much
Speaker 11
40:36Rob are charged with a crime by the police department here was a period of time when I get charged she's she's got a cap. He she went into a Carla he got thrown out came back with SWAT team owners dinner and it's all the people inside and who are Arabic
Unknown Speaker
41:08in this country.
Unknown Speaker
41:10She also and he got paid three months without city council approval. So there's also she was surely the state rat tried to bring false charges
Unknown Speaker
41:30or threaten her. She's called
Speaker 11
41:32Robin threatened she meets with the mayor twice a week. She don't go through the cheap manner like she has a little private with me twice a week and how it works in the army. There's a chain of command.
Commissioner Banks
41:52She's
Speaker 11
41:53like the Big Four back in the day. She does whatever it does. Turn on affairs. I told him to situations. I want her to hold Jack and check every person she was 14 because she she doesn't care we need an investigation or how you do this stuff. Officer you can have this officers trained and committed to many times even when you're finished. Law Report reports. They took my report as an investigator who knows they're right. Thank you. Thank you. Chair
Jim Holley
42:58I'm uncomfortable when people are using names like this public. I feel uncomfortable. Comfortable just a bunch of features. So I just feel like I'm comfortable when people use police officers, including things
Commissioner Ferguson
43:34before
Speaker 12
43:42mitigation will be devoted to the opinion has already provided on public comment. And in closed session support has additional questions or the meantime I recommend allowing the public to provide the comments in this time
Speaker 13
44:05however the officers immunity exam so traumatic to them, they face it every day. And I'm telling you something no matter how much or how much it's tough on them. I want to thank my colleagues for their outstanding work. Courage, dedication and sacrifice no matter what happens. Do your accusations all the time, but definitely due process? Just comment on what's going on here for two promises should be the word of the day due process rule and that should happen for the members and then the members of parliament while we go into savings and they face these things. comply and now will complain later that will help us and then that will help to not got any social media posts telling them what they can do what they cannot do. For the border police commissioner to combine to talk about facial recognition and I also encourage everybody including myself and my neighbor to get it running in other videos along with alarms and security and protection to at least any job that is bringing these people to justice. That's what it's gonna take rain cameras and everything else. That's a lady she has my love. And
Unknown Speaker
45:49lastly,
Speaker 13
45:51we must protect each other, each other males included, especially our you, our females and our seniors. That is what happened to that eight year old lady. We are almost bound together to protect each other long enough to pass
Speaker 14
46:13would be called with the last one D for CAC democratic moment if Marguerite Maddox call it
Speaker 15
46:28hello police commissioners and police. This is James Ford from the Obama weekend committee and Real Talk news. I'm not in Detroit. But I understand that you are making an effort to deal with this red light running and drag racing. That's remarkable and commendable people work because summers coming children, grandchildren, spouses, parents, grandparents, and everybody else is counting on you. Is it coming from you to keep pushing? It's reasonable to think that he kept some of these offenders and take their car levies instead of jail fans and give them let me just step gel tan and give some step signs. It was sent a message young people talk to send some messages, make some laws that your judges just put some stuff signs out there. You'll be surprised with that help. God bless everybody. You got to keep working. Thank you very much. Bye bye. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
47:28Just a moment.
Speaker 16
47:33Hello, 
I speak now on behalf of Detroit residents advancing civilian oversight, Draco. Something ain't right. For the past few years, I've watched this board dance around hiring a permanent secretary and chief investigator. It seemed like they were committed to keeping Melanie white and Lawrence Akbar in those interim roles indefinitely. At one point the process was completed but finalists including data Wilcox and were rejected. Most recently you hired Victoria shot and drum more field. That's great. But then you turned around and fired Mr. Warfield with no explanation. Now some staff members are being investigated. Who are they? Is there any connection? We shall see. News Conference outside the 36 District Court this coming Tuesday at 4pm On that same day, I'm Mr. Duane Jones will be going to yet another final pre trial hearing. Thank you and I yield.
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I speak now on behalf of Detroit residents advancing civilian oversight, Draco. Something ain't right. For the past few years, I've watched this board dance around hiring a permanent secretary and chief investigator. It seemed like they were committed to keeping Melanie white and Lawrence Akbar in those interim roles indefinitely. At one point the process was completed but finalists including data Wilcox and were rejected. Most recently you hired Victoria shot and drum more field. That's great. But then you turned around and fired Mr. Warfield with no explanation. Now some staff members are being investigated. Who are they? Is there any connection? We shall see. News Conference outside the 36 District Court this coming Tuesday at 4pm On that same day, I'm Mr. Duane Jones will be going to yet another final pre trial hearing. Thank you and I yield. Unknown Speaker
49:04If you
Unknown Speaker
49:07Yes, the good BFU Can you hear me okay. Thank you. I would like
Unknown Speaker
49:37if if I can downs I do it.
Unknown Speaker
50:01Caring and I would love to add the room
Speaker 17
50:25oh, meet with people Oh disability Yes, I can.
Unknown Speaker
50:47I was lucky for me and I would like you the discussion about disability. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker 4
51:21Chair. I'm gonna leave I heard his maps indicate that she wanted to come to the public safety headquarters and she wants to come when she has issues clearing security. Oh, I'm asking to share that you
Commissioner Bernard
51:50know, security search application required. roll in.
Unknown Speaker
51:57Thank you Wow, okay. Make it happen. Okay.
Unknown Speaker
52:08Commissioner Davis
Speaker 18
52:11Hello, can I be heard? Yes, we. Okay. I'd like to start off by saying that since Friday, I've gotten numerous calls from some of my friends and Neko and others talking about this board of police commissioners. You know, some of the stuff that I've been saying for years is being bared out. You know, how can you ask Detroit police officers detail on their co workers, but yet y'all turn a blind eye to what's been going on there with the board of police commissioners and their staff for years. I've been raised in a number of concerns. But of course, I've talked to a number of people a number of people when they was cheers, even Holly and especially Belle, you know how you cannot continuously cover up the misdeeds of people just because they're your friends and you liked them. But that's going on here. You know, this board is a poor example for the Detroit Police officers. A poor example. More needs to be done. Just this week, a couple of days ago, city council raised a part about trying to raise your stipend trying to do something, but they they stopped it because they wanted to investigate more. About the investigations is going on about the concerns, because while I was still on the board, I told a couple of different people, that people the OCI was afraid that was being harassed. But that was everything was being a blind eye because of they have protection from their boss who had protection from a couple of board members sitting there at that table. You know, so we need to tell you, you know, turn the table and start doing what the public wants you to do. You know, stop being so opaque and be more transparent. There's corruption going on. The corruption is sitting at that table. Thank you.
Commissioner Banks
54:05Zero Yeah,
Speaker 19
54:10yes. Um, it is tough. It's tough being a commissioner. And yeah, and it shouldn't be this board. This board is the last step in getting things right. And you all should be above reproach. And you really don't have a tough time. Because those of us who do call in is not even a percentage point of the citizens in the city. There are issues on this board and you all continue to act like you're getting it right and you're not getting it right you are not. The fact that it took so long to get a secretary shows that there's some corruption or ineptness or bolts. There are some things that are going on people being investigated and stuff. You're not transparent about that. And week after week, I'd go away, not feeling secure, and y'all abilities and that should not be there. I have other things, more important things that I should be concerned about, about the death of my son, and his case has not been solved. And I need you all to make sure this police department is the best it can be so that I can have some kind of resolution. And not just week after week, year after year. We're bogged down and BS on this board. Y'all need to do better, and it's gonna be tough, but it should be tougher. Thank you.
Commissioner Ferguson
56:14Okay, couple of things.
Commissioner Ferguson
56:25This is where we're reached back out. When he returned, we reached back out
Unknown Speaker
56:32and I asked him to come
Commissioner Ferguson
56:39we're constantly to help what we did for the reserves.
Unknown Speaker
56:50We did that
Unknown Speaker
56:58was a surprise
Commissioner Ferguson
56:58to myself. When I say hey, going over there was a lot of things happening behind the scenes that
Unknown Speaker
57:17I can't say,
Unknown Speaker
57:18all right.
Commissioner Ferguson
57:20I'm gonna tell the board, whatever they want to lose and I try to encourage them to get more
Commissioner Ferguson
57:35boards not easy to do. City staff. Work hard. I know I do. Take a lot of people I take I can handle it. But believe me, we were trying to hit this right. I got a couple of more months here. When I leave next year is to enhance when I tried to pull backwards when I'm pulling the rest of the Commission's when they look for another leader, find one that's going to enhance I have to take this
Unknown Speaker
58:25backwards
Commissioner Ferguson
58:31I'm trying to get
Commissioner Ferguson
58:38your report please.
Speaker 3
58:41Thank you, Mr. Chair, or the secretary reports. Today we have incoming correspondence a specific specification report or license plate technology as well as correspondence from city council president regarding questions for the board regarding the budget. We have several communications from the chair internal memorandum, as well as media release from chairperson Ferguson. We have two opinions from attorney Adam SASB as well as an opinion response from Jefferson and a complaint submitted as well on March 30. And all communications are in the practice.
Unknown Speaker
59:30Sorry for
Speaker 3
59:34the incoming correspondence questions, and the administrative team is working on gathering to respond to city council on behalf of the board. In addition to looking at our process for analyzing requests for promotions and disciplining officers, we're looking at how we present information to the board and how we improve transparency around the rationale for the decisions that are made by the board. To the public understands regarding the correspondents from last week on March 23 She sent in a request for administrative leave paper with medical benefits for 22 that hearing will no longer take place. necessarily due to 
retirement effective today, March 30. At the March meeting, I also mentioned two policies currently in review process with more technology aid and Officer wash treating investigations 05.
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retirement effective today, March 30. At the March meeting, I also mentioned two policies currently in review process with more technology aid and Officer wash treating investigations 05. Speaker 3
01:00:42Pending Board approval, the next policy committee meeting is April 12. In the policy committee chair, we can place those policies on the agenda to proceed with review and approval process is running open positions so the chief investigator position is on the agenda for today. And then there's more. In addition we are starting the interviews with investigators. We are targeting and is to present as recommendations to the board 13 candidates sent to Mr. Sunday backup candidates requesting interviews we are waiting for an interview days in addition of positions that are budgeted for and attending to the board executive manager for finance. Those those positions are being submitted before the close of business this week. Lastly our days. We have 14 Investigators currently on staff. Investigators are currently in rotation for cases one nation and one of the top office supervises the following process for monitoring your investigator cables and the progress we're making on a weekly basis and that includes better monitoring productivity. And to open cases there's so much more than we had last week. 295 of those are 90 days or or a last week and then 207 are under age. And then I conclude my report
Commissioner Ferguson
01:02:35Yes
Speaker 4
01:02:39there is no excuse for the board to support the promotion of law enforcement members who have taken it passed. I'm asking this.
Speaker 4
01:03:02either if we could have a revisit to the management presentation that helped me when she came on board and came to understand how an officer, of course remember with the training pass yes into the promotion cycle. So, again, share images, show, request, management presentation. That will be another opportunity for us to again, just stay in there that kind of activity could have transpired.
Speaker 20
01:03:42Thank you. Yes. Responding to the media. Crosshairs
Unknown Speaker
01:03:54microphone.
Speaker 20
01:03:57Several days and we have an opinion Cooperation Council, as in writing in detail, recommendation and listening for Commissioner I would offer that we should have that closed session next week. So I'm just suing the chair
Unknown Speaker
01:04:28we can see we can get all right. Mr. Chairman.
Speaker 21
01:04:35Yes, yes. Thank you. Sort of a follow up request from from my chair. If we can schedule through your schedule, or revisit the promotional process. I assume it would come at from directors Hello, just so that we can better understand how that promotional process plays out. And then the different nuances that exist when promoting,
Commissioner Bernard
01:04:59Mr. Chairman, in terms of my in our discussions with the sheet, and as you know, we'll move from all people. I have requested a summary on all of the complaints that have been filed against that officer, whether they were sustained. Long, she's indicate that but in she has indicated that there are allegations that have either been sustained or allegations of abuse physical abuse. He personally listened to those and determines whether or not he's here, and that he doesn't blame people to us. Unless he has little to do to those sorts of serious allegations to make the determination. I don't know what happened. In the case, obviously, that we're just talking about I don't recall it, quite frankly. But, but I just want to be in the community as this board that he does personally review, citizen complaints against an officer. Or, Chief, is what I was looking for that category. There's been some sort of calling.
Unknown Speaker
01:06:36The police have an individual
Commissioner Bernard
01:06:40that's correct. So
Commissioner Ferguson
01:06:44can look at it again, no. No.
Commissioner Ferguson
01:06:55concerns with some on the record that
Unknown Speaker
01:07:02has those
Commissioner Ferguson
01:07:05three handles.
Unknown Speaker
01:07:08I didn't see that. But I was on the
Commissioner Ferguson
01:07:11record. I didn't know we were going to hold those officers accountable for 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, six months, and then a year because that's when they come off report and
Unknown Speaker
01:07:29report to see how they're
Jim Holley
01:07:30doing. That's one of the things I think we have faith in and let's see. All right, and how do they in the police department and having faith with the community and when is the statue is trip trip this week ask question people today because we represent the community. Community used about two weeks to police department. But how to bounce test and I think that's what I'm trying because we don't have control. But I have responsibility for the community to make sure every i is dotted and T's crossed. Before we vote. Sure. To my colleague, attorney, that we have a plan Yes, we have you right. But well i We've all got jobs but you having transparency and making sure that there
Commissioner Bernard
01:09:51is a backup
Commissioner Bernard
01:09:59want to look to see if there have been allegations that were not sustained. Then for the most part. They've been reviewed and investigated. And there was no substance to the allegation. And I think that has been sort of the way that we have proceeded. I agree. 100% And we can look deeper even when it comes to those allegations that have happened saying so should communicate that obviously to to achieve. So he knows now. We want something more from the department. On their recommendations are not sustained. allegations that have been a complaints that have been made and why he thinks it's appropriate. We can
Unknown Speaker
01:10:59do our due diligence.
Unknown Speaker
01:11:06Feel comfortable. He agonizes over the names that come forward. Remember? So he does the due diligence. You feel comfortable with them to for your approval.
Speaker 3
01:11:31Thursday, April 6 at 3pm here and then our next community meeting is Thursday, April 13 at 6:30pm at 11am. Precinct presenting at King David church 1801 sunset in Detroit. For the April monthly committee meetings. We have the budget committee meeting on Wednesday at 2pm followed policy committee meeting on CPM and assistant complaints committee meeting on the same day, the pm personnel training committee meeting on April 19. The following week at 2:30pm. All committee meetings take
Commissioner Ferguson
01:12:12place at headquarters
Speaker 4
01:12:19Yes, I move that we
Unknown Speaker
01:12:23accept the
Speaker 21
01:12:30sorry, sir. Thank you. And as part of this agenda, we're out of personal training. As you know a few weeks ago motion which was adopted devices by to refer the item of Chief Investigator hiring past the due date today. Special Committee meeting on Tuesday, March 28 at 4:30pm virtually as well as here out of public safety headquarters. During that meeting, we came out with a recommendation after evaluating evaluating the current political candidates were in front of us to have been interviewed and have remained in the process and in the running for chief investigator and then as such, I'm going to have two motions which are coming out of community. And they would be as follows the recommendation to hire Courtney Blace to position the chief investigator within the salary range of $80,920 and $135,000. And there's a second required motion
Unknown Speaker
01:13:42roll call. Yes. Yes. Commissioner we window. Art Yes. Yes. Yes. Thanks.
Unknown Speaker
01:14:08So you had six Okay.
Speaker 21
01:14:22Thank you for the second motion. What would apply to continue to offer letter to court and place the position of Chief Investigator at a salary of $105,000 pending further negotiations
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01:14:35is required
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01:14:42to ask for Yes.
Jim Holley
01:14:48Discussion? I don't understand. So 80,002nd Motion is to
Unknown Speaker
01:15:01I'm looking at you
Speaker 21
01:15:05might be able to articulate a little bit. So as part of the hiring process is really there's a series of motions that are needed to be adopted by the body in order to actually hire an appointed member. So as you may recall, we hired our current board secretary. The first is to adopt the recommendation out of the personnel and training committee within that range, which has been allocated range to the position of Chief Investigator actually adopted that which was just did the second motion and that would allow for, for us to actually put a specific dollar amount to a contingent offer letter. So now, educationally, if adopted as a second motion that would allow the hrs to then provide that offer letters to the candidate and associated need, which would then come back to this body with a potential follow up motion to
Jim Holley
01:16:05appoint the chairman. To see
Jim Holley
01:16:17oh, I mean
Speaker 21
01:16:25sure. I can respond to that as well as part of the personal training committee which can actually have five commissioners that are part of the community. And so none of this process was done blindly. There was an interview process and process ultimately recommendation process which brought us to this point. Or Secretary which is our executive director.
Jim Holley
01:16:53The same process followed for this appointment. Five people here, none of us I'm just asking you have a right to see the person that does it.
Speaker 21
01:17:18Again, so typically, what you will find it in a lot of government institutions is a lot of that work, does trickle down the
Commissioner Ferguson
01:17:27ground or trickle down and, you
Speaker 21
01:17:32know, I think this is important. I can finish a lot of this work happens in community. And then finally come out of committee recommendations. And so that's what's happening here. And I feel entirely confident about that process. And I will add one other piece, which is the packet of applications previously provided by Mr. Brown. So resume and all that information is yes,
Unknown Speaker
01:18:08the first motion what was the motion that was just
Speaker 21
01:18:17the higher I can do the cheering and I can restate the motion on behalf of the Personnel Committee to adopt the recommendations to hire Courtney lakes to the position of Chief Investigator within the salary range of
Commissioner Bernard
01:18:32$80,920. A motion to hire the discussion about the process is ordered for the motion. The motion is the person and certainly commissioner is going to move
Unknown Speaker
01:18:59voted in
Speaker 12
01:19:01favor of the motion. This has the right to exercise their will through vote. That is that they have an objection to the process. They certainly do that through their vote as well.
Commissioner Ferguson
01:19:29Know essentially
Speaker 12
01:19:30no no. This next motion will be for specific
Unknown Speaker
01:19:37before it was adopted to
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01:19:39to negotiations Yeah. I'm happy to
Speaker 21
01:19:49repeat you out of committee which does not require a second motion to continue to place the position of Chief Investigator at a salary of 105,000 hours pending
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01:20:03further negotiations.
Speaker 2
01:20:09Yes sure, Brian. Yes. Getting out. Yes. We know. eliminar Holly, yes.
Commissioner Banks
01:20:33Thanks. Oh, no.
Unknown Speaker
01:20:45No
Commissioner Ferguson
01:20:48emotion passed. So to spin off a letter
Speaker 21
01:20:5440 likes and then I have one additional personnel training. So part of it was covered by the Shah in regards to the vacant position six vacant positions for investigator again, procedurally those interviews will occur in partnership with city HR as appropriately as recommended, those candidates will then come to the personnel and training committee. At that point, we made that a recommendation to come to the format. We're personnel training is involved in every step of that way as well just for clarity,
Commissioner Ferguson
01:21:37confusion in the future.
Unknown Speaker
01:21:38We on April 19.
Commissioner Ferguson
01:21:45Okay, all
Unknown Speaker
01:21:46right, looking forward to that April meeting.
Unknown Speaker
01:21:50Just to clarify personal training committee,
Commissioner Ferguson
01:21:55where we plan to have some recommendations.
Speaker 4
01:22:01Okay. May I please as chair of the personnel training well, so now that we supported an offer and she is asked, what kind of time and expect as it relates to onboarding and if they have logged in
Commissioner Bernard
01:22:24with as it relates to her responsibilities? Yes.
Speaker 21
01:22:29Wow, okay. Yeah, just as a general timeline would be dependent on the candidate, whether they accept or not, and then be in consultation with city HR. To give you a wishful estimate, it would be within
Unknown Speaker
01:22:47the next month three to four weeks, hopefully. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker
01:22:51Thank you, Commissioner.
Commissioner Banks
01:22:53Report. Yes, I don't care. Yes. Now five commissioners, get some credentials on this person to being hired. She missed me back,
Commissioner Ferguson
01:23:09back when background Well, what use and email and archives Okay, all set.
Speaker 4
01:23:21Okay. Great. Okay, these candidates were interviewed via public zone. Okay. And this last emergency meeting was viewed by the public via so. So we have to experience this interview process whereby we could come today and perhaps, to be better prepared to make this decision. So this is all done in front
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01:24:01of the public. I'm
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01:24:11sure
Jim Holley
01:24:16you ministration then we basically consider having based upon all of the things that have been going on. We have a audit report each year before we're not part time. I think at some point today but out wondering that we used to have an audit on on each year, to make sure everything's copacetic like that, and then also meeting all
Speaker 21
01:25:15right, yes. If you think we need to move forward from HR
Unknown Speaker
01:25:26No, no.
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01:25:29personnel training committee report. Is there any need for option
Unknown Speaker
01:25:36before the report? Okay.
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01:25:39The motion
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01:25:42is dangerous to adopt
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01:25:44reports.
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01:25:53Right
Commissioner Banks
01:26:04we're safe
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01:26:07place to share year
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01:26:11just as an update on our
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01:26:20team more than we had last week.
Speaker 3
01:26:23Those are 90 days. Plus a and we have sold 295 and 207. We'll make a
Unknown Speaker
01:26:40motion to adjourn
Speaker 4
01:26:47chair here, I don't know. It's called time tomorrow from nine to 230 at 937 gram all of our so if anyone can make revisions to this form, I'm going to be phenomenal. So thank you for allowing me
Commissioner Ferguson
01:27:21to make that announcement
Commissioner Ferguson
01:27:30if you have a little one's age from I think age 16. Baseball, baseball comyns. Grandma ball. Motion to
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01:27:46occur. Discussion.
Commissioner Ferguson
01:27:52All in favor Hi. All the balls. This meeting is coming up
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01:28:01please driving home safely.
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01:28:02Thank you.
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01:28:05I know it's working
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01:29:09Thank you.
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01:29:36Jackson
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01:29:37Oh