Care of Magical Shippers Podcast Episode 30 - We Fancy Fleurmione 🌸📚 (Hermione Granger/Fleur Delacour)

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Hey there listener Fancy seeing you here. Look, sometimes due to the things we discuss on the pod, it might contain potentially triggering content. But the good news is you can always review the episode description for a full list of the warnings applicable to this episode. Oh, and just so you know, this episode is rated are really filthy. It includes adult themes and explicit content. So if you're an adult, buckle up, Gird your loins and prepare to flood the basement because we are going down with these chips.

So do you want to stay?

Yeah, hi, well we're just gonna jump right into it. I don't I don't.

The listeners expect a certain level of chaos from us. And why would Pride Month be any different pirate listeners? Have no idea what I'm doing? Guess what? Guess what? How is that any different from anything I've ever introduced to you before now. We just wanted to say that we are here for you and we love you. Like, we are so proud of ourselves as queer people as well. Wait, no. Do you identify as queer? Yeah, asexual

as queer? Yep. Cool. Yes.

So. So we are proud of ourselves as queer people. We're proud of ourselves as a podcast, we are so proud of you, every single listener, allies included we just love you all we want. We've always wanted this to be a representative lovely space. And so to see things like the discord flourishing, to see the community growing, to see that you're all having such phenomenal, like feedback to our little pod that we love making for you is incredible. And we just wanted to take a couple of minutes ahead of our episode recording to really say thanks and celebrate you because it means the world to us.

Absolutely. And what's really fun is actually we have some because I am me, aka manic as heck, and I just was like, what was it? Is it the 31st I know dates, so may 31, we're gonna assume it was the 31st and not the 30th. I was like, We should do something for pride, right? Like in the discord. I'm like, we should do something. And so then within the span of like an hour, I was like, we're going to have a pride party, we're going to do bingo, we're going to do this. So our Discord if you're not a member, and if you're interested we are we just got a couple of different things going on the first thing being the bingo, all that information, we actually posted to Tumblr, so you don't have to be in the discord to participate in pride bingo, which essentially how that works is it's for anyone who wants to either write something, draw something, make a mood board, you know, whatever a video if you want, we honestly don't care, as long as it's something that you want to make, um, you get a personalized card based off of different kinds of like pride, queer anything from serious to goofy themes that are on each square. So you can either submit something for one square, and then you know individually, or you can add a bunch of them to one piece or whatever to try and get a bingo. So it's just something to kind of like prompt you to do some things like a little bit, you know, different and obviously celebrating pride. So that was something that I just was like, Yeah, we're gonna do this thing. So I'll put the link in the description if that's something that you want to participate in. Definitely reach out if you have questions. But yeah, but we're doing everything from what is it like supporting different queer works and links to different like queer sellers or sellers that focus on like pride products and things like that to support one another donations, share circle, so you can talk about your own journey as far as like finding yourself or identity or anything and everything. Yeah, so yeah, it's just a big, like I said, it's kind of a pride Party right now. So it's a

fun time. We invite you to if that's something that sounds like it might be up your street, come and join us because it's just a fun time. And I am really like, I was hesitant about sharing things initially in that share circle. But can I just say reading through everybody's stories, I went through an emotional roller coaster that was so it was so touching and moving and you're like, I feel I feel transformed by so I would advise you even if you don't want to share to just come and read some people's stories because it will just my mood completely changed. I was so uplifted by the community in our Discord is just full of really lovely people. And I don't know, reading everybody's individual story and the fact that, you know, the acknowledgement that we're all still learning from each other and growing and changing and having the space to, to sort of grow alongside each other is really special to me. So I'm just really glad that's there. And clearly, you're a genius for setting

like, Yep, this is happening. This is the thing I've just added to channel added another channel like

yeah, because it wouldn't be like you to add channels, our Discord has the most channels I have ever seen. Literally, anytime I go on, I'm just like, you know that that woman in the maths mean? That's me. Just being like, how do I find anything?

That's why we have the ASIO channel

How do you find the axial channel?

very top, Nathan. context, the server was initially like, I mean, it still is, but obviously, it's grown excellent. It's transformed just like you know, everything all the time. But there's a channel for almost every ship that's like, either semi popular, or people are writing or whatever. So we have like head categories, femslash categories, poly categories, slash categories with all these individual channels so that people can post, you know, head cannons or FIQ, regarding those, you know, ships or whatever. So, yes, so it is definitely big. Luckily, you can pick and choose what you see. But if you're Nathan or me, we have access to everything, and Nathan gets overwhelmed. Every single time.

I just feel like, when I'm looking at that channel list, it's like looking through space and time, it's like I can see everything. And I just, it's wonderfully comprehensive. And, you know, if you if you need it for certain things, or you like you want to deep dive into a certain subject, it's great. But so, but sometimes, I could just be like, channels, but what I what I will say is, I love these private channels, I love that this was set up, this was just such a wonderful way to celebrate. And comment, add your thoughts, feelings, whatever you want to share, because you know, at the end of the day, we want to celebrate you and your what makes your what makes the the pod great, because you're part of that great community, I eventually got those words out, eventually got that sentence.

And, and something you could do say if you didn't, you know, didn't want to join the discord or whatnot, or weren't necessarily comfortable putting a name to a story, send us an Ask anonymously, anonymously on our Tumblr, and you can share your story and we can share it as well and validate your experience without you feeling like you know, it's everyone has their different comfort level or things like that, or put your name on it or whatever. But we'd love to share stories and celebrate one another in our journeys because I've gone from oh my gosh, I've experienced the same thing to also Wow, that is so different from my experience. And that's what makes it so amazing. So let's celebrate everything. But

the diversity perspective is so cool. I mean, yeah, there are things I've encountered that I would never, that have just never come across my path before. And that's phenomenal that we get to do that. And that people are comfortable sharing, but I just want to say, you know, if you're one of those people that's maybe not comfortable sharing yet, you can absolutely come and be a look at, you know, you don't have to share. You know, we're we want to be as comfortable and accepting for you, as you are in sharing with us. You know, but as long as you feel like you can be a part of a positive space that that accepts you and loves you for who you are. That's our goal.

Yes, absolutely. So what better way to start Pride Month, but with a femslash ship. So we're going to work so excited because we have another guest this week. We have Danny aka Dan puff who's coming on who? This episode's going to be great. I'm so excited. There's so much laughing there's just so much kick. There was a point where Nathan was like, and 10 minutes of this was like 10 minutes of this entire thing is gonna be cut out giggling and then I started giggling and then Nathan was like, and now there's a lip which is probably fun, but you know, so I just had to share that which is really funny. So

we just we just had a good time, I think If that will come across in, you know, as you listen, I mean, they say when you're smiling people can hear you smiling even if they can't see your face. So I wonder if the same is true. Well, obviously people can hear you laughing What are you talking about? What are you going to say? It's a fun time. Oh, as I twist my moustache, you know, suggestively? It's a fun time come listen to that. I'm so excited to celebrate with Danny. I love this episode. I say that about every episode we do. But you know what? Being honest with you, every single episode we do, um, like we build on something with that, though. You know, we did that better in a new way. Or even if we were just, you know, chaotic, and twirly for an hour and a half. We did that the best way that we've ever done it yet. So I am just very excited to talk femslash and talk it with someone who is genuinely really excited to get there and is passionate about the ship. And that is crucial to us. We make sure that we're giving you the lovely tasty femslash content you love and one.

Yes, exactly. So happy fried. Thanks for listening. And yeah, enjoy this episode.

Thank you all so much. Space, let's not assume they don't care if I get my bearings. Well then you can get the bricks. This is my

own seat Welcome back to Care of Magical shippers podcast. It's a Harry Potter ship culture podcast. I am Nathan.

And I am Meg's and we are so excited because we have a guest with us this week. Yeah, our friend Danny who we also do Snapchat together on occasion so it's really fun to do something a little bit different and very different because of course we talked about how much we liked Snape and and love Snarry In particular, but we're not even gonna touch slash this week which is pretty crazy. Wild

I'm just waiting for Snape to feature in this episode somewhere to be honest, like Yeah, it's gonna happen.

Well sneaker man. Yeah,

it's it's he always has like a mini cameo and he just gracefully agrees to

literally every Jkr description of him ever. snips greasy, had curtains of greasy, greasy black hair grease into the dungeon where the greasy snails belong.

It's like a slug. Poor man. Oh, gosh. See, we've already gone there. Anyway, this is Care of Magical shippers

podcast. So this week, we're gonna be talking femslash and do you want to talk about the pairing that we're gonna be covering?

So yeah, so this week, we are doing FLIR myeni So we're doing FLIR DelCor and Hermione Granger. And the reason why we're doing this one is because we were running into the point where, like, we needed some help with femslash I mean, we we think so like we were we weren't quite sure who to do next, especially when you look at a lot of popular femslash I mean, we're doing it this time, but a lot of time femslash is Hermione slash literally any girl anybody like? Yeah, so I felt like I was like, oh, gosh, what else can we do? We did Lenny and of course we did Bella miny. And so I just knew that we weren't going to be able to avoid being repetitive with that which is fine because obviously all debt dynamics are different. So it'll be fun to you know, to look at these two together versus in comparison to especially Belle might be very different so we wanted to get some people who are excited about femslash on and daddy said that she was willing to come and here we are so we're really excited to get going on this and we'll see what happens

every week yeah,

I did not just like slammed down to floor mighty fics within the past like 20 I don't even know half an hour on like two times speed screen reading

I love two and a half speed screen reader because it's so like you don't know where one sentence ends and another begins

it I luckily I took I mean I took enough away from it. So

good. Good. You know who the characters are. This is really all we need.

There was Fleur and there was her mighty.

They did Lady things. Yes. No, let's see introduce our special guest who is going to be talking about the lady things do you want to give our listeners a little bit of an intro into like why you're into femslash and all the lady things that ladies get into

I hope lady things like TM is going to be coming up throughout this entire episode.

Episode is just a lady thing. Yeah. Well, I'm basically have shipped like Snarry So like Harry and Snape my whole life and only in the past couple of years, I've been like, oh, well, what else is out there and because I don't really have the heart to share your state with other people do easy to like, turn to femslash because not gonna run into that problem. But I really love Hermione a lot. And I think when I told y'all I was down for femslash It was basically Hermione, any lady? But yeah, I don't know, it's just interesting to see different characters and how they interact without betraying my ship.

Those are some very strong and very relatable vibes, I guess, the first question that we should ask ourselves, then it's like, what is it about Hermione, that just makes her shippable with anyone, before we get into the specific ship that we're gonna be talking about?

Well, of course, to start, she's probably the strongest female character that we know. Well. So as far as comfort value of like creating fanfic around a character, it's someone that you can build a narrative around, and then, essentially, you know, take anyone to go along with her and I don't know, I just, I feel like she's someone who can get into a very, like, loving, fluffy situation as well as angsty as well as conflict. Like, I feel like Hermione is more of a calm Plex character than we give her credit for. So it's just I don't know, like, I mean, as far as for me, I don't know, I just, it's just she, she would be somewhere to start for me if I was to, like, get into or write femslash just because she's a character I know. So well, versus like rare pairs of grabbing, like, like Susan and lavender or, you know, something like that, that you have more fun with because it's creative. You don't really know the characters as well as, say, Hermione. So that's kind of that's what I how I look at it.

Yeah, I think with Hermione, it's just the fact that she is the female character we know the most about and the one we spend the most time with. And she's a very beloved character. I know a lot of people relate to Hermione, like, oh, like I'm the bookworm. And no, I think I'm smart, and all of that. So it's someone that you know very well, but if you're like reading or writing that's like a familiar character that you can then explore other characters with so you could pair Hermione with like any other female character, and you're getting to have that familiarity of Hermione but also exploring people like Fleur or Ginny Luna, any female character, you can think of Minerva McGonigal, or Cisco Malfoy like anyone, it's really a chance to like explore while also having like your staple there.

Right. And we know from her character as well, that she is an exploration just like, it's not that she's just booksmart. It's that fundamentally, she's a mystery solver. So if you take that in the context of femslash, then you know how many potential pairings represent that sort of element of oh, I'm intrigued by this mystery that I need to solve for myself in her position. And that is potentially why so many people ship her mining. I mean, before I looked into this, I didn't really think of her as maybe such a dynamically shippable character, but now I see it as she's definitely viewing this as a chance to expand her own boundaries, which doesn't feel out of character for her.

She is someone who seeks knowledge, I think so, you know, she's very, not even just knowledge in general, but about other people, even and getting to explore the world with different people and getting other people's feedback and such. So I think it'd be good especially for her to have a partner that would sort of expand her horizons a bit because that would be something very her.

Right, right.

Yeah. And another bit about her my niece characters, it's kind of like, the female side of, you know, like Harry, kind of like the other side of Harry, whereas Harry technically is from the Muggle world even though he's not, you know, a Muggle born in that way. So as far as Harry and Hermione both have things that they were exposed to differently up until literally they They were thrown into Hogwarts. So sometimes that plays into like, we will see where, you know, the Muggle world isn't as tolerant of like, you know, queerness essentially, or it's the other way around and it's the wizarding world that isn't that way. So it's like them trying to navigate to polar opposites and figuring out themselves and Hermione as well. Like, what was it in one of the stories that Danna, you had rec to me? She was just like, I didn't even think about people. Like, I'm just focused on school, like just wasn't, you know, even thinking, it's like, oh, sexuality is on the backburner. I'm not gonna look at this too. intensely. But, but yeah, so that can be something that either obviously, we can have a story that, you know, all of those themes don't even exist or matter. But then we also see, there's that comparing of worlds that can come up a lot with, you know, as far as like, you know, lesbian, gay, queer, like, relationships.

And I think that, like, part of the job of fanfiction is, as I'm sure we've discussed before, is that you want characters that you can sort of step into the shoes of, and I mean, I relate to that Hermione revelation of going, oh, yeah, sexuality is a thing. Because I mean, I didn't really consciously consider my position until I started uni. I mean, I'm, you know, aware that that's not necessarily a popular stance to take. But I was I very much existed in my own bubble. And I can absolutely relate to her when she's like, you know, she has other priorities, like saving the world that have to happen first. I'm not saying save the world or anything. But like, you know, you have other priorities, but then you're like, oh, yeah, I have other needs as well. So maybe a character like her mining is so beloved in a position like that, because she can, you know, stand in for so many people who find her relatable in that way. And I mean, Danny, you were talking about how it's great for her then to be matched with someone that's going to expand her horizons, well, then we can start talking about how great Claire is in that context.

Yes. Well, with Fleur, I think it's very, it's interesting because she has not just, she's from a wizarding family, but she also has like Vela in her background. So it's not just a way of exploring like, she's also like, she's from France. So she's from a different place. She's from the magical world. She has this background with the villas. So this is more of an opportunity for Hermione to to learn more about magic to learn culture to learn more about villas, and a big thing I like to think about with them specifically is if you think about after the war, and Hermione going into like, protecting magical creatures and focusing on the laws and what you can do to protect and how that might be an area of interest to flir as well being part Vela. Even if Hermione is not specifically looking into the low protection laws like any just the fact that she's looking like caring about magical creatures and doing what she can and Fleur would look at that and take interest in that too, because it would also matter to her on a more personal level.

Yeah, that's a really good point. I didn't really think about that because yeah, even like even though it's like it, you know, humanoid creature that obviously can, you know, reproduce, happened. But, but yeah, I could see her being either like, like, advocating for, like, what was it? She said her grandmother or great grandmother was Vela.

I think it was her grandmother.

Yeah. So it's like if there came to be something, you know, going against her. Her grandmother, she would definitely step up to the plate in that regard. I mean, her the person that she cared about the most was her sister. It was it was it shows her commitment and love so much for her family that she's if she lost her sister, it would be like huge for her. Yeah, that's that is perfect with the Hermione narrative of like you said, the helping, you know, creatures that don't, you know, can't speak for themselves and how unjust that is. And that's, I mean, that's awesome. And of course, what I think of with her being a viola is of course, we know that she has this effect on primarily the male population because that's what Vela that happens with Philo's, but I, of course of the of the headcanon. Or, I mean, I just think that this makes sense is if you're attracted to say like the female sex or women, you're also going to be affected by the Vela. So that could have been absolutely Like 14, well, technically 15 she her September birthday, but 15 year old Hermione having these random feelings around someone that's really starting to pull the light those feelings that she'd never considered before or took the time to think about because it literally was just school. And so and her trying to deal with that, you know what I mean? Like her feeling like she's lost control around this person, you know what I mean? Because like, she's just like, Oh, why did I get so silly? Why is my head all fuzzy? Like, why? Why is it like this? Like, she's, I'm not in control of the way I'm feeling right now, when I don't like to feel that way. So it's just I love I love that it's her way of figuring out that, you know, it's like, oh, she's not heterosexual. Figuring that out. I mean, it's just, but it's not something that you she would even consider or think about, but I love the lack of control, like, you want to see it totally driving her nuts. And, and, and probably I could see, like, think of it this way in Cannon, like she like makes fun of or gives Ron a hard time about the way that he reacts around her. It could be her self projecting on someone else. So I like she's giving him a hard time even though she's like, you know, like, She's their sweat beating down. Like, she's not. Like, she's, she's like, Stop, you know, it's like, oh, there's nothing so special about her and

just fussing while I'm trying not to swear.

I know. I know. It's so it's so funny. And so then of course her going into the not necessarily liking Fleur could be part of her, you know, on acceptance of hurt those feelings like her. Also projecting that upon someone else for making her feel a way that she didn't necessarily wasn't ready to feel like, you know what I mean?

I can imagine her being like, confused and like agitated by it. Like, I don't understand what this is, like she's affected by Fleur, but it doesn't really click that is attraction or a poll or whatever it may be being like, why am I feeling this way? And even if it starts to kind of make sense, then she would just be angry like, well, they can real feelings she's making feel this way because she's a Vela. Right?

Yeah, she wouldn't take them seriously, they wouldn't feel genuine. And I could totally see that. Now. I'm trying to picture Hermione at the World Cup when all the viola come out. And all the men are, you know, just like throwing themselves like trying to jump, stuff like that. And it's like, imagine if she had actually reacted and like, if, like Harry and Ron saw her behave in such an odd fashion, it would just like, just like mouth open, it would be so crazy to everyone to see her like lose, like lose control.

Yeah, because she's, she's all about composure, right. And we associate her with that sort of orderliness to the point of I mean, she works herself to exhaustion in Book Three, whenever she's got the time, Turner, and she's doing all these extra lessons. And so there's got to be nothing more frustrating for her than losing control. But also, the pole of not knowing why she has these intense feelings and having to riddle that out, is, I could see that being the reason that she's compelled into this relationship. That's why she throws herself into it, because she wants to, she needs to know, she's drawn by the sort of the ravenous hunger of needing to have this not affect her so deeply. So she's like, I'm going to solve this. And she has no idea, of course, that all of the other feelings are gonna come with it. And you know, how intense that could be?

Yeah, it's kind of a it's a play off of like, tropes, like the tropes that make you feel like it's, the characters are dealing with worrying that it's not genuine, you know what I mean? Like forced proximity, or like some sort of, like accidental bonding or something that's pulling someone together. And even though they're like falling in love, they're afraid that it's something that could either go away or isn't real, like the other person could just stop feeling that way because magic was involved, and I could see her Miney dealing with it in that way and trying to figure out how genuine Fleur was because of course, Fleur wouldn't have anything affecting her necessarily that we know of. So it's like, is she being genuine or is she manipulating those abilities like that would be something that she Hermione would like you said like be trying to figure out what is actually going going on like, is this something where With being vulnerable and putting myself and trusting my heart into, or am I going to stay on my guard essentially indefinitely? Like how, you know, how is she going to trust that it's a genuine relationship?

Right? Yeah. And we've we've seen her grow slowly into trust with Ron canonically. So I can see it not being an instant thing. Of course, there's the you know, you can make the opposite argument where she has an encounter and it's really hot and heavy and then afterwards, she does the soul searching so either of those works so even as I'm speaking, I'm arguing against my own point, so I'm just gonna back away Danny, do you have any thoughts? I do like

the idea of say, Hermione not being sure of things but also the very intellectual studious I'm in this searching for answers. I'm searching for control. And like on her mind, and he's ended doesn't start is very genuine, where it probably might with Fleur, or say Hermione approaches Fleur because she's having this attraction and she's trying to figure out and Fleur mistakes it for genuine affection that she then returns, at which point her mind is like, I have feelings. But now I don't know what's going on. Wow, convoluted mess of people not trusting each other and miscommunication and wild mess of things.

I was gonna say this sounds like a hot mess. Why I love it so much. Yes,

of course, it's relevant that we're talking about flirt, especially today, because at the time of recording, right now, the second round of the French elections are happening. So it's really strange when we think of this when we think of Hermione you know, obviously we've talked about it in the context of Victor chrome being all like international magical cooperation. But of course, you know, there's there's this element to with Fleur and you know, we know that I love post Hogwarts stuff, you know, what if Hermione ends up on some sort of research mission fact finding mission, attache to the ministry in Paris, and then all of a sudden, she's, she finds herself in in the company of Fleur and things develop from there, you know, there's any number of ways in which these characters could meet. And I definitely think if anybody is going to, you know, be sort of pro International and pro forward thinking and exploration, this is going to be Hermione, right? For sure.

Yeah. Cuz she's gonna she's a Knowledge Seeker. So she's not going to be like, you know, stay put, like, obviously, she's going to travel like, especially like her going to Australia. We assumed to go obviously, get her parents and bring them back and starting that journey of like traveling and things like that. i Yeah, that's that's a really good point. That'd be a perfect way for post Hogwarts things to come about. Yeah,

I think you also have to think that Fleur is rather adventurous herself, like she Yes, life did to come to Hogwarts to partake in the Triwizard Tournament. And then she stayed in England to learn the language and to join the order. Like she's not a really stay put kind of person. So even they met again, because Hermione was in Paris, even when they get together, it could be a thing of, they like travel together, and they want to explore the world together. Because I feel like, and this is this, I'll just kind of give my spiel on why I really like them together is

because Yeah, please.

So they're both very, like competent and capable women. And I like the idea that like, people sort of, don't give Fleur enough credit, because the pretty girl and you know, she didn't do as well as the guys in the tournament, but she still was in the tournament. And she was holding her up.

She says much a fairy princesses I

know, she's not just beautiful. And I like to say like, no one gives her credit, even Hermione, really, you know, not really giving her the credit. She's do but she's clearly intelligent, skilled, powerful, like she can hold her own and she was in the order. She was a loyal person. You know, you think about her family and her care for her sister. But then the fact that even in Cannon was Bill after he was attacked, and everyone thought she was gonna leave him and she's like, No. So she's a very loyal person. She's a strong person, and those are all things that match Hermione very well, but they're not so uh, like that. It's boring. Like I feel like they're very passionate like fears people who were flirt can be someone who can kind of stand up to Hermione and like challenge her and like a good way of way that would like make her better. So you can kind of see how, like, they're both very strong female characters who stand on their own, they're independent, but they can work very well together if they like gave each other a chance.

I just thought of a prompt like I do. So okay, so let's say, Fleur and Bill, you know, either they, they never had kids or whatever, and they split up or whatever, Hermione and Ron didn't break, it didn't work out. So then the women who left the Weasley men were like, Fuck them. And we're like you to kind of like Grace and Frankie style. Like aside it, like started doing their own thing and seeing the world and doing all the stuff they wanted to do that they gave up to be like, domestic like housewives situation. And because they could have gotten to know each other better, like through family gatherings and things like that, like, you know, over time, her mind is going to open her mind and see for for something different than what she did as a teenager. Of course, she's going to be behaving in a way that's kind of like, jealous of the beautiful girl that everyone's looking at. Like, no one looks at me that way. And then all of a sudden, you know, Victor does, but she really goes off on Ron when she's like, Oh, nice if you didn't notice that I'm a girl. I know. Like I think she definitely has, even though even if she puts out the front of not really caring. I think she does like she she can't help but care. And I just I think it'd be so fun. And then all of a sudden them coming back and like, oh yeah, we're engaged and the guys just like what happens?

So the entire time you were talking, I was picturing Fleur and Hermione, owning a shell cottage, but like turning it into the beach house from Grace and Frankie.

Okay, that is literally what I was picturing. Because I'm like, that's just like, oh, yeah, she kicks bill out and then you know, Hermione either later on goes through the same thing. And so goes to Fleur to be like, oh, you know, you understand, you know, the Weasleys and stuff like that. And yeah, that would be so freakin cute. They need to be in the beach chairs, looking out at the ocean, holding hands, like just super adorable. That's cute.

The more the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me as well, because they've both really been the product of value judgments about appearances in the Khomeini's case, it's been, you know, who is this sort of rather dowdy girl with all this bushy hair that you know, no amount of sleek easy's potion can contain, you know, and then all of a sudden in book for, you know, it's revealed that you know, she she is beautiful, as well as being all the rest of what she is. And then with Fleur, it's been much the opposite where she's been underestimated because she has these looks. And because she's part Vila. And so, just from either side of the spectrum, you've got, you know, the outside world looking in on them both judging them for, you know, daring to be these multifaceted intersectional, multi capable women. And I just think it will be great for them to get together just as a sort of a few to the rest of the wizarding world really.

Yeah. And and it's, and it's interesting to think about because I haven't really ever sat and thought about like, oh, like fleurs like and being in fleurs head, like what would that be like to actually, you know, take her on as a character. But yeah, she's probably putting out the, you know, the the confidence that she feels like she has to give out and then actually does have the vulnerabilities of being like, Why can't people see me for more than just my face? Like, it's not my fault that, you know, this is also a part of who I am. And I'm so much more than that. And so like comparing the two, like you said, they both have more to them, but some people just can't or refuse to see. And I feel like they would figure that out for each other with each other. You know what I mean? Yeah,

this actually gives me the thought of like, what if not like online dating because it's the wizarding world but thing like online dating, where it's like, Hermione doesn't have the time to like, go out to bars and meet people. So it's like an owl service or some magical means of doing it. And then fleurs like, well, everyone just wants me for my looks. How am I ever going to know if someone wants me for me? And then if you also want to take the threat of the Vela genes interacting with thing she's like, Okay, well, I want to know it's a real connection. So they do like this anonymous like datings service and then they find out.

Okay, so what if it's like their Patronus? Is? What if it's what if so what if their service is called like Patronus? us like us. So and so the way it works is you send your Patronus out with like a, I don't know how, like a pre recorded equivalent of a pre recorded message. And it's like, so I'm looking to meet someone who is you know, X Y, Zed, and then you send each other messages back and forth. But of course, it's anonymous. You don't know who it is because literally just your creature.

Oh, my gosh, and the, and the way that you know that it's real is when your Patronus changes.

Oh, my goodness. We're just writing fanfiction live again.

That is, oh my gosh, I'm getting a little teary. Oh my gosh, I love that. Like that would be. I just Oh, wow. That's that would be really intense.

Like imagine it's still anonymous at that point. And then the other like, since the change Patronus. And then they realize like, Oh, this is real. And then that begins at two because then they realize it's each other. And then it's like, oh, my god. I love it.

Yeah, that's so that's so great. And then of course, you're getting the sub Yeah, the separation of like, they're not in the same space. So Hermione knows like, she can't, she can't make excuses for the Vela. Like, you're talking apart. Like there's not anything affecting you other than words and conversation, and, you know, things like that. So she can, and for Hermione, it's her way to, to look at it studiously and like she's probably read it like if they're letters like, she's like, analyzing every word choice, she's looking at the handwriting. And it's like, oh, with this slant, the positivity is that, you know, like, some people look into handwriting and stuff like that, like, I just feel like she would be so just so invested, even though like you said, like, she doesn't have time outside, but she's going to, she is going to put effort into what she can give herself to, because she knows it's like probably her only opportunity to be able to try and find something. So yeah.

And also that, with it being you know, initially over a distance, it sort of flies in the face of this idea that you have to get together with who you knew at school, or who you're like, physically close to, because that's sort of one of my biggest criticisms that I keep coming back to of the wizarding world is that everybody just seems to fall into relationships with people. Because they're because they've known each other or because they're like, geographically well placed to be convenient with each other, as opposed to really, you know, falling in love for, you know, liking somebody for who they are. I mean, characters look out. And they do do that in the context of the universe. But it's really lucky that that happens that way. And I just like this idea that with them having more distance, there's more opportunities to be like, actually, yeah, I'm finding someone who is my equal in more than one way or you know, or is willing to accept that part of my vulnerability or whatever it happens to be.

Yeah. And it's like, you're not really settling for anyone. Because yeah, it's not like, Oh, these are just the people that are around or the people who I know it's being able to like, like earlier, broadening your horizons. Yeah. And that's kind of the beauty of like, the internet is getting to meet people across the world. And I know even where I am, I live in a very rural area. And it's like, there aren't a lot of people here who like the things that I like, or who were like me. So being able to have like the internet and meeting having more access to people across the world who I can connect with more than the people in my area. So if you think about that, in the wizarding world, like that can very well happen to and it's such a smaller community even then. So having something that if it's not the internet, then some sort of magical means of having access to a broader range of people makes a lot of sense, and can also be something I think a lot of people especially in the fandom, who tend to be, you know, a little more on the outskirts of things might relate to a lot.

Yeah, definitely.

So where do you think if Hermione and Flo got together? Where would they live? Like where would the mythical beach house be? Because I'm remembering when that when she came to Hogwarts, she was just like, you know, it's it's complaining about the temperature and about the food. So I'm guessing they wouldn't live in Scotland.

They'd have to live somewhere warm.

Well, I think because As I as we know, Fleur has puts a lot of importance in family so I could see them living in France. And because Hermione is parents had forgotten their lives and moved away, like sold the house and all that, like no, nothing of them is connected to like, you know, the UK and where she came from initially other than just knowing that's where they were from, like, they have the opportunity to start a new life fresh somewhere else too. So they can share that, you know, their that share that with like around fleurs family and keep their family close. And I think that that would be like really nice for them to keep that connection to everybody. And it's definitely possible for them to do that. And I love the idea that actually Hermione grew up speaking French, so she does know French already, like it was part of her, you know, whether it's maybe her mother was French or it just was part of her schooling like leading up to that. And so what was it one of the stories was, Fleur was like talking to people in French, like confessing her feelings, and they were discussing Hermione and her they didn't know that Hermione understood French so the whole time her mind, he's just laughing to herself, because she just like, they have no idea. They have no idea. So yeah,

I love that one. And then when Hermione is finally like, I can understand you, you know? Yeah, we're being like, ah,

and oh, yeah, the name of the fic is, however you say French in French, French and French. Say, yeah.

Is it just, is it just called francais?

Yes. It's literally just called that.

Okay. That's, we I'm sure we'll link that with the appropriate pronunciation. In the description. There, as I asked the question, Where would they live? I realized how relevant the question was, because I had to remember that apparation does exist. So you don't necessarily have to live with your significant other or partner or whoever it happens to be. Because as we discovered with Flintwood, anytime you're horny, you could just literally operate in their living room. Things can can happen, which the introverted side of me really, miss, like, really wants that life. Like, I don't want to leave my living room, I wouldn't love to find me, like, literally appear in my living room, please. Don't want to have to do and if they

don't make me leave my couch.

Exactly. Why should I have to move? I see what you're saying. But also, why does this need me to go outside? Sometimes I don't want to,

I never want to know, absolutely not. I could also see them being very comfortable with the lives they built for themselves independently, like as they growing older, and then if they came together, they both acknowledged you too. It's like, I love my house or flat. I also love my house or flat. So we're gonna stay there. But then we'll you know, we can take turns staying at those places, but it's like, I like having this be my space. And, and it's also could be something like I know, we talked about them having conflict and growing from it, but it's like, but also there is going to be some conflict because they are both very strong, determined driven women. So I could see them keeping that space. Like what was it? Isn't it wasn't it Helena Bonham Carter and Tim Burton that had houses next to each other, because they couldn't live together.

Oh, I never read that. But if that's true, that's so cool.

I think their houses were next to each other. So like, it was still connected, but it was like they have their own spaces. I'll have to look up to verify it. But I'm pretty sure that's, that's true. Something I read somewhere, you know, because the internet's you know, reliable. So like that.

I know. That was it. There's a famous English writer who literally put a dividing line down the middle of his house. So he and his wife could live on either side, because they got to a stage where they couldn't stand each other. So I know things like that have happened.

I just feel like they're very like, I could see them being very independent and having like a more modern type relationship like that, where they could live separately. Or even if they were in a situation where they had like a home base, but they spent a lot of time traveling. So it's like it really wouldn't matter much were like the home base was or even if they just kept their respective flats, even though they were traveling all the time, so it just didn't matter. I never worried about it.

I could see them both traveling a lot. as well for their jobs potentially, I mean, we know Fleur is incredibly talented. She has to her prodigious magical skill has to be being channeled somewhere into, you know, one of her many hobbies. We know Hermione potentially ends up doing ministry things, or, you know, she could do any number of things. Really, it just depends on where her passion is. So they could both be incredibly, you know, Cosmopolitan, traveling the world. I like the idea of them being like, Okay, this week, I'm in Nairobi, meet me at the top of this ferris wheel or whatever it happens to be, you know,

I love it. So speaking of fillers, many talents, I do like the idea of like, postwar if Hermione went to go like, retrieve her parents, but she couldn't undo what she had done. And if maybe FLIR is like, especially good with memory, charms are skilled in terms in general and she might have more of like a specialty there where she works with Hermione to help try to figure it out. Because it's like her area of expertise maybe where her mind is realized that she really messed up. So she's looking for someone, anyone who would have any idea who can maybe help her and like turns to Fleur for that. And maybe Fleur can go with her to Australia, and they can

find love that way. Yeah. And it opens her up emotionally to someone like that, like she's trusting someone to help with her parents. And, and another way for her to see Fleur as someone more than what she thought she was like, Yeah, back in fourth year, and all of that. So I love I love that I love them happening upon each other. You know, it's like, I mean, we talked about that kind of with like some Flintwood You know, fit or just a lot of pairings, like you knew each other in school, but it gives you time to grow. And then maybe 510 years later, you run into them again, and you're ready for that person or you didn't know that person was right for you. Because at the time it didn't make sense. So which seems way more realistic than what was said as far as like, you have your boyfriend and then you graduate and then you get married and then you start having kids and that's just how that's just how it works. Like that's, you know, and so I I love the idea of them meeting in some instance and having to connect and work together and then it slowly thawing, you know that preconceived you know, thoughts of either one another or maybe just her mind is, you know, end of things to really seeing, you know, fleurs heart, you know, so,

yeah. And so as you were talking, I was thinking about that scenario, where the memory charm can't be like completely reversed or it doesn't work. And so she goes to flir for help and I was thinking fleurs one has a unicorn hair core. So what if they like I don't know if it's ever specified how long unicorns live in, in the in the law, but I was thinking, what if they happen to find the unicorn that gave the hair and just like Phoenix Tears can heal physical injury? What if like, Unicorn tears can restore memory to people? So they ended up like being able to administer that as a treatment because they work together to do it. Oh,

my goodness.

Just some part of the unicorn.

Yeah. Yeah. Sort of postcard, please.

We're gonna stick with tears.

We're not gonna specify where the tears come from. Going there anyway. It's not like we weren't overthinking it. The only dirty person in this chart unicorns Unicorn tears in inverted commas. Anyway, yes. So so some part of the unicorn can help restore memory. And well, especially because you know, the like, because they're going to be they're already going to be traveling to Australia. So I'm assuming that some sort of exotic or supernatural event has to happen for the the like the memory reversal to properly take place. But then as a consequence of that happening and then working together, they also realized that they have a deep and almost like supernatural love for each other. I just love that idea of those two things. meeting somewhere in the middle. I did not mean to be that filthy, but then we took it there. So that's that though. That's it maybe for the rest of this up. So they should just be whistling in a corner. Just gonna tactically withdraw and let the sensible people with good ideas speak for about 20 minutes. Okay? So nothing wrong with

so I like thinking about the rewrite of Goblet of Fire where instead of Chrome it was Fleur nice, you know, like, like the Harry Potter series that we always wanted that actually was queer. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, you know, we're acknowledging, yes, absolutely. Harry and Draco have a crush on each other and that's why they're terrible. And all of that and so I just think it would be so beautiful for like, she would be the one that Fleur miss the most like she was the one that she went to go get during that task and them showing up together at the Yule Ball and it it being like people being surprised because it's Fleur and Fleur so you know, pretty and could have everyone and like, everyone's still gonna have the opinion they have of Hermione and be like, Why Hermione, like, regardless of it being crumb, or Fleur, and yeah, and I am part and I could see another part of the reason why she's hard on Ron is is literally out of jealousy, like, because she can't like she never told them about Chrome. Like until literally, the when they went to the ball, so the whole time she's either not saying anything, and she's seeing her best friend like all like, you know, Google wide over her kind of girlfriend or whatever. And she can't say anything for whatever reasons and yeah, but I just like I just think they would be so what was it her mind? He technically wore like a blue dress, right? Even though in the movie, it was like pink purple was Perry

wing.

Yeah, yes. Parry wing. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I love the idea of them both showing up and people like like we had kind of talked about like her finally taking the time to like, do her hair and things like that. And people finally seeing you know, superficially obviously, like, how beautiful she actually is and then coming in together and it not not seeing the divide of like, oh, then the nerdy girl and the beautiful girl. It's like, oh, look at those, you know, beautiful women, like, just together and it's I just want to see them dancing together. I would.

I do want to interject lady things TM, but we're talking about not even that way but

the lady TM.

The thought of like, her mind is Perry Winkle dress and I was like, wasn't Fleur wearing like a silver dress? And I was like, Yeah, their dresses. The silver and the Periwinkle and yeah, and they're making out in the rose bushes. It's greasy, oily grease is it and

of course Snape creepily is loving this like just like he's he has to be teacherly and break them up but then at the same time he has to be like hmm Granger Jellico What are you doing? Put your lady things away

you're doing lady things

and then there could be her. I could see her helping Fleur like through the tournament and then her telling Harry like I can't help you because that's against the rules but but she's still helping.

Oh, imagine Harry confronting her after like, yeah, I realized you were helping encourage like Lady things.

Okay, but that would that would be a first for Harry realizing something on his own. Like, that will be a real milestone for how well done how are you realized something? Yeah.

Oh, no. The rest of this episode is clearly just gonna be giggling.

No more intelligible thoughts happening? Because we've all we're all just still, we're still on lady things. Okay. I don't really know how they work. I'm gonna refer to the experts.

So when a lady and another lady love each other very much

does it always happen in a rosebush? Or is that just metaphorical?

He's really a rosebush.

So, a rosebush. Those things are thorny AS HELL YEAH. has to be a terrible choice. Like falling out of a rosebush. You've got slashes all over your face and your arms and

legs. We don't keep shame here.

Well like they were like, how do we make this? Yeah, how do we make this happen casually without seeking out tools

there have to be there have to be spells to like, make things like grow and twist and I'm thinking about like, like short like they're going to want to make sure things are in certain places. I'm just going to leave it at that. But

doesn't involve you know, go to vines

and possibly

go going in. And Lady.

Well, let me put you already mentioned the thorns right. So I was just going off of that idea and thinking well,

what was going off of like pain kink and like,

blood? Oh, and I wouldn't, I wouldn't. So violence was really such a terrible extension of that idea.

I just was unprepared. Fine. All right, we're going to testicles and

look restraint. restraint is a possibility. Devil snare is a possibility. There are any number of permutations that that people could be enjoying in the rose bushes, and maybe that's why they go there. Who knows? You know? herbology

King? Uh, yeah.

I mean, you know, so much has to be happening in those greenhouses. I mean, level is all over it. Like, professors sprouts all over it. Like the quiet ones.

Yeah.

Okay, so since we're in like, kinkiness i My cheeks hurt I can barely. Um, but yes, it's we're in Kiki territory. It can Keke Keke Keke.

Keke Keke.

So because we have obviously two strong, independent women, how would you see their dynamic as far in the bedroom as far as someone either becoming more submissive or vulnerable in comparison to the other? Like, how would you picture them?

Like I feel like it could go both ways because I feel like Hermione could be like real like control freak about it. She's like, I'm the one in control here but then also there's like the switching it around and being like well I'm so like, controlled everywhere else. So I would guess trolled in the bedroom. So I feel like it could work either way. I'm kind of more of a sucker personally for her variety kind of like giving up that control with someone she like super can rely on and like flourish able to be that person and she's like, I'll take care of you.

Yeah, the amount of trust that she's able to like give the person and yeah, I definitely can see it both ways. And like you said like them just taking turns to be the one to just let go. And they you know of all the pressures that they you know, have had in their daily lives or just in general so, so yeah, they have to they have to be just into various things. They're exploring stuff they're doing lady lady veins. They own a lot of Lady things. They interact with a lot of

switching it's a lady thing.

We're gonna have to make PSA.

So you know the way in Grayson, Frankie they go into like the vibrator business. I definitely think if if harmonium flow, were gonna do that they would be calling them the lady things.

Yeah. There we go. We didn't know we were getting there. But we got to Hermione and fleurs, sex toy business and their partners. And they're partnered with Weasleys Wizard Wheezes so they have a showroom at Weasleys Wizard Wheezes in their back room with all their special you know stuff so yeah,

no, I'm just thinking of that Alice did moody line except where it's like the last person to go into the showroom never come out.

Oh, Brendan, clicks and never change. Okay. Before I took us down this very specific business vibrator route. Were there any other serious points that we wanted to make about them as a couple that we haven't touched on yet?

I think another thing you can think about is back to the Vila business if you want to see that as like a mating thing. Where if they have oh, and like her mind is like fleurs mate. That's also a thing I've seen before that can be very fun to play with. I'm always a little bit Have a sucker for like the same kind of thing and creature inheritance meeting business. Yes.

Is that usually like a prophecy tied in with that? Or is that they're more like supernatural things going on? Like is it like? Because I know I'm familiar with like Soul marks from Meg's is likes, but is it? Is it kind of like that, but then it's more primal or how does that usually work?

Yeah, it's very, I think the way I've seen it, it's that type of thing is usually very much like imprinting from Twilight where sort of like you just know or like math tells you or, you know, a soul Mark does appear, it's always something, oh, people do it differently. But there are lots of like creature fics out there where they like realize that oh, that's my mate. It's not just a matter of like choosing to do it, but chosen by magic or fate or what not. So that's another fun thing to play with is realizing their mates either at the start of the relationship, or at some point down the line after they've been together for a while and fallen in love. And at some point, realizing it or even if it is a choice, you're choosing to perform this mating ritual or ceremony or what have you. But really playing more into like the Vela aspect of things.

I think I've read this before, which I think would be really interesting for them is, if it was something that when you came of age, either your mark comes like or you know, some telltale sign shows up when you come of age. But you're the same thing would happen for your mate or partner at the same time. So say that Fleur had said Mark already when she went for the Triwizard Tournament, but Hermione doesn't know yet. Because she's still, you know, whatever, two or so years away from seeing that. And when it actually happens, like how that, you know, oh my gosh, the angst of what if she's already married to Bill, and then they've put in just like this whole thing? And it's just a what if there was something like the Mark was she misconstrued to mean like, Bill when she met Bill or something, but then it actually was her mind II and then the drama and out? No, we can't just be wholesome. We have we got to get some angst in there. We got more, eight. More eight. Yes.

And I feel very sorry for our listeners that are just listening, because they're missing out a lot of the awesome facial expressions that happen when you delve into angst because the hand starts touching the head ever. Everything becomes so dramatic and Oh, no. Okay. Okay.

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yeah and I will say probably a good like 10 minutes of this episode is cut out giggling

now 11 minutes

perfect.

Do we want to say anything else about the Perry

Oh, so Danny you did write a little one shot for cue airy or Pinktober Pinktober Pinktober yet was that your that was your first time writing them as far as like a main rights. Yes versus Yeah, yeah. Versus a side ship. And yes,

that was very exciting. I had a very specific mental image

we have a few of those ourselves as you gathered from this episode.

But the idea is like what was I think the prom was like magical sex toys or something. It was like nice I just had the image of like an a sex shop but I was like, but one near me like has books and they like a really small book section. So I was like, imagine like this SEC shop and remind us just at the books and that's what inspired that little one shot and I was like, I wanted it to be Hermione for the obvious reasons and then I was like, Who am I gonna pair her with? But I was like, it has to be Fleur mighty I love them too much not to have it be Fleur.

So Have either of you seen Parks and Rec I haven't. You have not

I've seen like often on some like random bits of episodes

so that so Lesley one of the main characters they have this thing where the Parks Department hate the library but she has to go to get a video one day for something else. And because the departments hate each other the librarian that there is like oh my god you have a $2 late fee on mysteries of the female

orgasm

that's the same that I was picturing as you were describing your one shot I need that now but I needed that to be to be Flamini

yeah Fleur was like floured working at a shop and coming up behind her and like oh are you the ICU have some interest in yellow blonde her mighty like slams it shut? It is just like board Yes. Oh man.

I think my last thing that was just like an idea for them would be if you're thinking like Minister for Magic Hermione. And you think of her being someone who's very like we're talking kind of strict and very, I guess fussy in a way so if it comes like she can leave things yes. But then you have Fleur there who's not just pretty but maybe more charming. So she can flirt and kind of be like the good balance of you know, taskmaster Minister for Magic Hermione and fleurs with her at events being like the charming one.

Yes, yeah,

I'm gonna be like calm down darling. Hmm, let me deal with this foreign minister because I love you darling. But you're a bit much.

Okay. Okay, so of course, like as we know the listeners the world knows our flag means death is huge right now like obsessed with that show rightly so. So as you were speaking that it made me think of Blackbeard and steed when they're on the what is it the French like boats, and he's like, You need to chill out. These are my people. Let me deal with them. And it just like that is exactly I see Fleur talking Hermione down who's ready to be out for blood? So that was that's perfect. That was literally literally my visual of it being Hermione. I mean, even just the same. I'm like, Oh, the big bushy beard. Just make it bushy hair and the blonde, you know, wig. It's like, oh, just see. I mean, it's just so funny. So there we go. We have a we have our flag mean stuff au for my any of that episode,

or for it? Brian is black beer guests. You didn't know she was the bloodthirsty one. But she is.

Yes, exactly. Oh, man. Too funny. So yeah, someone write that.

I love that, you know, if we're, of course, we're still gonna be doing this in a few years time. You know, at the time of recording. We haven't had a lot of our suggestions followed through on by listeners. But what if, like, someone listening to this, like three years from now is like, oh, yeah, but like follow through on this very specific. Very specific prompt so so like, in our email inbox we can really, really makes what is like being had got to do with my remind me what happened? Like what what's happening?

Oh, man, yeah, it's hard to think about, like, what references that we might make now that like, you know, for the old, the kids 20 years from now that are definitely listening. are like, What the heck is What nonsense are you

people have grown up with Care of Magical shippers podcast in our 60s now.

But it's great, because literally most of like, what we found in the discord and whatnot is like a lot of us are in like, late 20s, early 30s. Like, we're just Yeah, we were the ones who were with the books and grew up with it. And so yes, we're still be the same movie with this project.

So yeah, that means it's never too late to write these prompts.

Exactly. Because we haven't gotten them yet. Like as in this very moment, does it mean that someone listening right now isn't going to give it to us for years?

Thank you in advance you beautiful time travelers.

Well, this was a lot of fun. Once again, I didn't know going in we were very you know, hey, yeah, we're so prepared. Like we always really good. I mean, I had a lot of fun. Like, I definitely am having just finished this, I have to give us more credit with femslash. Like, even though we feel like we just kind of feel insecure with it, because we don't feel as confident. But when we actually decide we're going to do it and do it. It's actually not. It's actually pretty fun. Like this was, this was a lot of fun. But definitely having new Danny with us was was great. It was great to have someone who's really excited about it and give us the perspective of like, I mean, you've read it, read it, and you've written some of it. So you're going to see things and tropes through that pairing that we have no idea because we haven't been exposed to it. So yeah, so this was a lot of fun. Thank you so much, Danny for coming on. And I know that you've said that you're willing to in the future, so I'm sure Danny will be back again at some point. So anytime

has been a blast. Like I am so glad that you've been here for this because I feel like you deserve a lot of the credit for why this episode actually stayed afloat. I were just going with the world vibrators are a thing. Unicorn tears this is what I do. Is my entire involvement in sto just silly I'm eager to derail it. i Yeah, I wouldn't apparently get that I have a nice voice. That's it. I'm done. So yeah, so thank you so much because As you bring credibility to my interesting interventions, it's been so much fun to have somebody with us who is passionate about femslash who knows about Lady things TM I found it fascinating and I can't wait to have you back the next time we do femslash it's got to be so cool or you know just come back randomly for something else that you're passionate about because this was

for our five episode series of Snarry

scary person

will like do like this massive record day and then we'll just like intermittently release our random like, scary episode. Oh, and for people who haven't listened that I know I've talked about it on occasion before definitely go check out Snape chat podcast because like I said, Danny and I will be on there on occasion. It's all about Snape, everything from character, you know, investigation ships, lots of different things. And it's, it's very different, obviously, than what we do. But it's still a lot of fun for anyone. Like even if you're like, what's so great about Snape like, that's a great way to you know, get into it and learn a little bit more as well as people who are hype about Snape great be hype with us. It's great. So obviously, thanks for listening here. But hey, take a look at that. It's a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun with it

that we do.

So once again, we don't know what's gonna be next time, but we'll tell you

but thanks to the editing magic, it's going to make it seem like we do know what we're talking about. So I could just be saying anything right now and it won't matter. It will go out. Except for the people watching this video. Where it is now is the point where you realize how stupid I actually congratulations. I know nothing. What was what was that quote? I couldn't know the flying or do things yes. Oh,

okay, so context. Well, when Nathan and I kind of sort of started like when we first met I guess was like you had a bot written fanfiction that you decided to record when you started doing pod Vic. And it was the mote the crappiest most ridiculous story and it was Harry

it was so it was it was Harry Potter and the portrait of what looked like a large pile of ash is I think the full title. And that were that's a sort of a Bartnik written fanfic, I can link that in the description button it did a whole lot of other ones as well. But yes, I think that was where it was from was hurry saying I can know the flying or do things

that it was like the clothing description. Or was it like hair? Like it was something with the Little Prince? What's in it? Oh, yes. Yeah,

yeah. Harry Potter in The Little Prince. Yeah, it was like and the little prince was Dobby but also Voldemort.

Yeah, we'll have to link to that because that's that is how I was introduced to Nathan right there. Perfect. I can neither fly nor two things. I think your for the first chapter is like five minutes. If you send me the file, we could probably tag it on the end of this

show. That's not something I can do.

So there we go.

It's manic I think Dumbledore appears naked and Harry's bathroom just to give you an idea of of context. As such as it is for the story. Makes no sense.

If we need any warnings, I will enter them now.

What do you mean if the story is just a series of warnings with warning?

All right. So Well, thanks again, Danny for joining us and we can't wait to have you back again. Thank you, Nathan for trying to add to this.

Thanks. I'm so grateful that you appreciate the effort. Thank you so much, Danny, we love you to bits. We can't wait to do this with you again. Yeah,

I'm looking forward to it.

Are we gonna say goodbye or we're just gonna do

Okay, let's let's count down to a buy. Let's try and do a synchronized buy. Okay, ready? 321

Bye

That was horrible, but it was also the best buy we've ever done. So I'm good with that.

So now that you've finished enjoying that episode, a bet you're wondering what we're going to be talking about next time. Will it be a ship? Could it be a trope? What about our character centric episode, editing mags, put the listeners out of their misery. Next time we'll be focusing on

Sirius Black, Remus Lupin and James Potter, aka wolf Starbucks with our very special guest dream quite awful.

So come back to enjoy that, that you're really as possible convenience, but you know, preferably sooner rather than later. Because we do make it so you listen to it, and we hope you enjoy it. Remember, you can call Nathan's advice. Be kind to each other manager Mischeif and we'll catch you in the next one soon.