Job Search Angels interviews Simon Lau (Otter.ai)

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    The Job Search Angel and creator of this community. We started out with five of myself to encounter Russo harleny Vasquez, the amazing Jessica Williams and Jess Smith, and the angels come and go, depending on their schedules that myself and Jessica and just have remained staples in this room, I think we are coming up on probably 1520 weeks of doing this room and having amazing conversations with thought leaders like yourself that add value to job seekers and career changers, I own a company called Career BFF, and I am a job search accelerator coach and career coach, and I am just happy to be here every week to support the community, Christine and Adrian Andrew Jessica Shannon, Lynn, thank you so much for being here over to Jessica Williams and then we'll have, Simon, you give us a quick introduction and then we'll jump into the q&a. Sounds great, thank you so much and happy Wednesday, everyone. My name is Jessica Williams I am the CEO and founder of James W career consulting, I'm your resume Vanessa job snatcher. I feel digital products for that job seeker who can, or who wants to go after their positions on their own, and I am in some amazing rooms. Wednesday's always my favorite thanks for Anna Tuesday job today.

    Sunday I do a finding your voice, women in corporate that is definitely something that's my passion and I cannot wait to talk with you today, Simon. Thank you so much. I can't wait to hear from you.

    Thank you Anna. Thank you, Jessica. Hello everyone, welcome to this room. My name is Simon Lau, I'm the VP of product@otter.ai and audit AI if you're not familiar, is an application that helps you record and transcribe all your meetings, interviews lectures clubhouse rooms basically any type of conversations so that you can go back. Listen, you can search on the transcript. You can also share with your colleagues, so it's very very powerful tool that is very useful in many many ways. So today I will be talking about some of the use cases for job seekers like how you can use the audit tool to up your game so that you can land the job that you want. So I'll pass the mic back to Anna.

    Amazing. We're so excited to have you hear just a little added networking opportunity. Judy fox came up with this idea to connect us on from clubhouse to LinkedIn, and so I have created a socio tap link on my Instagram profile so if you'll follow along and click my face in the top right hand corner of your screen. Scroll all the way down and click the Instagram icon, and just under career opportunities on my profile, you'll see a clickable link that will take you to a landing page, and the very first option is join the JSA chat on LinkedIn, and this way you all can have conversations in the direct message, take notes, add questions, and continue to network and bring the conversation kind of full circle from clubhouse to LinkedIn. So, please, you know, jump into that chat, we take great notes, especially because we honor AI, which helps me capture gems and amazing insights that are shared and I can copy and paste and sometimes put them in the chat for you all. So Simon I would love to hear about how otter.ai came to be. And then we can talk more about the productivity hacks and how job seekers can use this application.

    So all the thought AI as a company was founded in 2016 by CEO and co founder Sam land, and also co founder Yun Fu. And so we a bunch of technologists who built a nifty little app that Transcribe Recording transcribe your conversation using artificial intelligence, we basically built our entire technology stack, pretty much, so there's no reliance on any third party. Speech Transcription technology. And then when I joined in 2017 I was really really psyched about this particular application of AI. And so helped build out the product and eventually when we launched, we started out as a, as an app that is completely free. We made it an iOS, Android and web applications, all three channels, and later on we added a premium version. Now we call pro auto Pro, and then later on we also add a business edition so auto business for teams SMBs and larger enterprises so that the entire team can be effective and more productive in your meetings. So fast forward to today, we have already done some really key integrations with Zoom In fact, we have most recently launched a feature called Auto assistant for zoom so you can schedule up to seven days ahead of time, all the meetings that you want auto to automatically join, and take notes and share the notes you're all the meeting participants. So it's very, very powerful, very convenient. We've also done an integration with Google Meet so that you can, through a Google Chrome extension so you can once again record transcribe and share your Google Meet meetings, and share it with your colleagues, so. So just to sum it up, we have iOS, Android and web standalone applications, and we have done integrations with Zoom and Google Meet, and we're looking forward to build this out and have more integrations for our platform so that you can, wherever people are having conversations otter is right by your side ready to transcribe and take notes, actually one more. We've done a collaboration with club deck and so that with club deck and auto you can transcribe your clubhouse rooms as well. For more information you can go to my clubhouse bio bio for to check out the links and download club deck.

    Sounds amazing your are moving fast with advancing, all the different options and the different ways that individuals can leverage the value that comes from recording these conversations. And for me personally I have noticed that when I have utilized the platform that I am able to be so much more present and focused on the conversation without having to Mad madly scribble on a notepad, and I also love that it's hosted and saved, you know in an organized fashion on the platform, because you know I've been known to write in six different notebooks and then I go back to find it. And I'm flipping through, you know, 1700 pages of notebooks trying to find one conversation. And then also having recorded some recent webinars, when I looked back at the text I had such an aha moment that the things I was saying audibly, were the things that I should consider incorporating into content and or my teaching modules, essentially, and it just opened my eyes to how different sometimes we communicate via written text or typing, and then verbally, so that has been some of the benefits I've experienced and then also using it, and multiple person meetings where I feel like it's a ping pong, trying to follow people's requests and expectations when I record the conversation I can go back and.my I's Cross my T's and triple check my part, or my responsibility in this conversations. Jessica, how have you used otter, up until this point. So I'm over here flashing like crazy because otter AI has really been a game changer the last couple of days for me. I made it a point to really sit down in the app and figure out how I can best help me with my consulting and all that good stuff, I've been able to really what's cool okay so what's cool is I can take these notes and transfer them to my calendar.

    That has been a game changer for me because everybody knows my memory is like trash. So having these notes to go back and compare on my calendar to my clients when our conversation has been amazing. So this tool is not just for job seekers it's for entrepreneurs and business owners to like my either. I was like a kid in a candy store. So Simon good to bomb,

    mate. This is amazing. Yeah, these are such great use cases, what I'll say, what I'll tell you and everybody in this room is this otter has also transformed my way of doing product management as a product leader, I need to talk to customers I need to talk to my teams I need to talk to all the stakeholders. I really want to focus on the conversation and not worry about scrambling to take notes and or delegate it to someone and in that case, they are not be, they won't be able to focus on the conversations, either, so why not have otter, do the heavy lifting of taking a verbatim transcript, and as well as the recording so you get a synchronize recording and transcript so that when you go back you can easily look for the key nuggets the key decisions the action items, and hold myself accountable to what I promised the stakeholders or what I promised the customer prospects that I talked to, right. So everybody leaves the meeting on the same page and not really having to worry about taking notes, but if you want to highlight some key moments you can just use a highlight feature within one click, it will just highlight the last two sentences, or you can even be very selective and drag and select a sentence, so that way when you go back a 60 minute meeting turns into a five to 10 minute summary that you can both read and listen. So then, you know, super powerful.

    Simon, that is awesome I have a quick question is for new users job seekers, what would you suggest their first movie. If they're just now using otter AI.

    I have so many tips though I'll go one by one. So first of all as a job seeker. Let's say you what you are preparing right you you're preparing for a job, you might want to brush up on some, some skills you might be listening to some podcasts, or you're watching a YouTube video or you listening to an audio book. Well, a very efficient way of doing that is to actually either import the recording if you have the audio file, or just live record and live transcribe it, then that way, once you have done that first step, you can actually playback in two 2x speed or 1.5x speed and honor. You can even search, maybe sometimes podcasts are pretty long, right, you might not have enough time, you might not have time to listen to like a 40 minute podcast, so you can just search and jump to the most important moments that you want to listen. Right, so turning any sort of educational content that you want to you want to brush up your skill set for your, for the job that you're trying to apply for otter, turning it into an recording transcript that is searchable makes it very efficient for you to jump to the portion that you want to listen to. And on top of that, as you're listening and you find some really key nuggets this really good to come back and review, you can do to highlight, you can add annotation, take some notes. So then that becomes a very efficient learning experience as you're preparing for before you apply for your next job. I'll pause for a moment right here.

    Amazing So Tip one utilize resources for research in preparation to record audibly, listen back, you can search for certain topics within that content to go back and refresh, for example you will, I'll let you keep going on tips because now my wheels are turning What's your second tip Simon.

    Yeah, so just to recap the first tip is, listen and learn faster, whether it's for podcasts YouTube videos you can take advantage of the playback speed, you can take advantage of search highlight and keywords. My second tip is now, now that you are, you have to learn listen and learn enough so now you're ready to do a mock interview, you really want to practice and prepare for the actual day. So what I often recommend I actually jump on other career development or job seeker clubhouse rooms and, and there's, there are a lot of moderators that provide really great tips so some of the great tips I remember is that you won't really want to go through a mock interview, it could be with a friend. It could be with a trusted colleague, it can be with a career coach, a mentor, right, you do your research and go on some websites. In fact, I think there's a website. Let me check my notes. indeed.com just put out a recent article called 125 common interview questions and answers, with tips. Right. But I'm sure if you just do a Google search. If you want to go for more specific interview questions, you can do your homework and find those questions, then you practice a mock interview with a friend. so pull out your honor app, if you're in person with your friend with your mentor. Just use the otter mobile app on our web app. If you are doing this remotely through zoom and Google Meet, as I mentioned, you can use the Zoom integration, and Google Meet Chrome extension for otter, and just record and transcribe the whole thing. What you will find is that as you come back and review, and listen to your questions. Figure out and see if you are answering your questions, concisely. Is it really addressing the question, and you can share that recording with your mentor with your friend, and also ask them, ask them for some feedback, they can highlight a certain portion of your answers and provide you feedback through comments right so that would be my second tip. So you do a mock interview, and practice your speaking skills. Using otter, but practice it with somebody else. I'll pause right here.

    Yes, and that's where I have recommended my clients can use other AI as well, so I can craft questions, they can answer them through the app and send them to me, and I can visit, you know, visually see the text and hear how they articulated and their energy, how they pause how quickly how slowly they speak and give feedback in that capacity. So,

    my jaw just dropped and I do not mean to cut you off, but that is brilliant for mock interviews, that is a heck of a gym, I never even well it's one thing to interview with your clients but to have them do it and then to send you the transcript game changing, And I did not mean to cut you off. Oh no,

    please don't apologize, you're my co pilot here so amazing. Okay, Simon, so do you have a third tip I mean, you sound excited you had lots of fun things to share. I'm like, on the seat at the edge of my seat,

    I do, I do have a tip number three I think Tip number three is a combination of a lot of little tips so but I'll try to keep it simple I don't want to go beyond a list of three. So, in terms of whether you're doing a mock interview, or you just recording your session, maybe you have a career coach, maybe you have a mentor, maybe you're just practicing speaking, I highly recommend that you leverage otter, to pay attention to your speaking style and improve your speaking skills. Avoid excessive filler words like the US, likes, you know goes by, and that will be something that you want to go back and listen for ways to improve your speaking skills, maybe sometimes you're speaking too fast, maybe sometimes you're not taking a breath and really thinking about it. Maybe you have a lot of filler words. Maybe you are rambling. Right. And so those are the type of things that either you can listen back and and provide yourself a constructive feedback so that you can practice again. Or you can also share it with a trusted friend or colleague to give you the feedback so that's some more general improvement speaking skill improvement that you can utilize otter for.

    Absolutely. I feel like I am the queen of arms Oz in your nose, and through my experience, hosting these clubhouse rooms and recording myself in various scenarios. I feel like there has been a heightened level of awareness, to try to minimize some of those filler words that are often caused by nerves, but that is especially valuable for job seekers and career changers that are practicing their 32nd to one minute pitch, or how they answer some of those interview questions that we may find on that indeed article or other places that provide great interview questions so that's amazing feedback. What are your thoughts on job seekers are recording the conversation when they have an interview with someone I know we had spoken briefly about this on our one on one, and I'm curious from an ethical standpoint, what is the right thing to do, and those types of scenarios because I have in the past used my voice note feature to record myself in you know in a review, and then just listen back to it to critique myself, and I did not let the person know that I was interviewing, or that I was recording the conversation. And that might be terrible of me but I am human, and I did not use that recording for harm or ill will in any way shape or form, it was simply for personal and professional development. So I would love your thoughts around that.

    Yeah, this one is definitely very tricky so I'll tell you this, regardless of whether it is the actual interview or meetings, from, from a legal standpoint, you there, you do have to have consent of the other parties, especially for 11 states, if you're in the US 11 states require the consent of every party have a phone call conversations before you can make the recording. But more generally, as a rule of thumb, it is still polite to make sure that the other people in the conversation, are aware that they're being recorded. Now, so having said that, Right, so now you understand the legal implication. Having said that, if you can position this as, this is something that I want to take us to take notes on, and it is an app that will record and transcribe it, It is something that will help me to get capture capture notes and capture the conversation and remember, remember better and make sure that I can. And I can also be open to share it with you. So whether it is for an interview use case, or for meeting use case, it's, it's really creepy if you're recording and keep it a record for yourself, but not share it. So that would be an approach that I would recommend in a situation where you are, not necessarily for a job interview, but just in general, If you want to be in a situation where you're meeting someone and you want to use auto to record and transcribe it will be great to share because then everybody would be on the same page, and they would appreciate the power of being able to make sure that everybody on the same page so that nothing, nothing is left to the imagination of our memory, right, we, we have memory loss, we don't remember everything that's in the meeting. So having a record that people can collaborate on and add notes and summarize, so that there's a continuation beyond the meeting.

    Fantastic. So I've been creepy in the past I won't be creepy in the future. So thank you for our nation. Jessica before we go to Shannon, I'd be curious, as a recruiter, if I started out a conversation with a candidate that I was screening, and we, you know, got the pleasantries, out of the way. And then they said Anna is it okay if I use otter.ai to record this conversation. So I don't have to take notes, this is what it does, I would be happy to share it with you. I feel like it would be well received in that kind of container. Do you agree.

    I do agree it's all in how you deliver the message, I liked how you presented it, it's, you know you want to make sure that you're showing that it's for your benefit and so that you can get better as you go. Just don't come out and say well I want to record this just in case. There's so many ways that you can split this out so long as you deliver it with a nice bow, I think it can be received very well from all parties

    involved. There's one more use case so so for example if you are doing a, an interview as a journalist, or you're doing an interview as a, as a qualitative researcher, right. So, I remember there was a professor of journalism that was teaching his students about how to use otter, and the way to phrase it is. May I use this app to record and transcribe, to make sure that I Don't misquote you. Right, so, so there's, it's not left to the subjective filtering of how you wrote it down right if you actually record and transcribe it, then it makes it would help the person conducting the interview to minimize the possibility of misquoting, the person who said something, there is the context, there's the intonation. So that would be another way to position this in a interview situation, not necessarily a job interview, but just a more general interview use case.

    That's a really good point. I mean, just depends on the context of the conversation and what it's being used for right point out.

    Welcome salmon to the stage. Do you agree to be recorded today on clubhouse on otter AI, with the job search, angels at 6:26pm on the 16th of June.

    I do. Now we're married. Okay, so I have been working really hard not to be creepy.

    At any given time, it's tough, but I haven't been trying to I've tried something a little bit new or different with with otter when I've been practicing that works for everybody. I've been using it for a couple of weeks, mostly in the interview stage, and so I can't get out of the habit of taking notes while someone's talking, it's just, it's just something I feel like my hands have to do in order for it to demonstrate that I am paying attention and hearing love, so I keep doing that, but I still find a lot of benefit in hearing myself, so I started doing it, where I'm on my computer and maybe using headphones to hear folks, But my phone is still recording just my voice. And so I feel a little less creepy with that. And the piece that I just wanted to kind of share how I have been using, how I've been using and benefiting from it is that I go back and because I know I've taken notes on what the other person has said I know what questions are coming up, and I'm listening to myself back. And I'm being able to pick up on my tone and inflection and any areas where maybe my answers weren't as thorough in an interview, and then I'm taking that information and using that to put in my follow up emails or follow up communication, just to make sure I get that thorough look on those things, I feel like maybe I didn't represent entirely as well as I wanted to. And I don't know I just feel like that's add a little extra

    to the follow up. I'm shooting events speaking. Shannon, That's a great point, it sounds like it can be a confidence builder as well. You think so, being able to go back and look and then re fresh what you said. Oh, I think it's I think it's huge, it makes me feel like I don't I don't worry so much at the end of the interview if I forgot to say this or if I forgot to say that because I know I'm going to be able to pretty concisely come back and say it probably in a more powerful way because I'm going to use words that I'm writing in I think about from instead of having to just react.

    Shannon is a fantastic share this is such an I'm going to add it to my, my tips vault, and share that, that's fantastic. I'm so glad that you're finding value to be able to leverage otter to up your game. Thank you for the share.

    And not be creepy. That's like yeah, that's right. Yes, absolutely, and I do like the way that you have kind of circumvented the creepiness with having the, the other people in the conversation, essentially muted and only capturing your responses which is very, very smart. And, you know, with working with you I know that you've used the tool to really hone in your peak career moments, and making sure you're more concise and telling or answering situational interview questions as well. And also the PDA is that the application times you or you can see how long you've been speaking as well which I find to be very helpful as a serial Rambler so catches the rambles really well. Exactly, exactly. So if anyone else has questions, you're welcome to join us on stage, and Simon, we'd love to hear any other case studies. One someone mentioned in the chat about how valuable this could be for students, and I would be curious, the demographics of students that are utilizing this platform today.

    We have a lot of higher educational insecure students so college students, university students using otter, essentially for the purpose of making sure that they can go back to the lecture and study. Right. And also, another key use case, I mentioned earlier is journalism, any journal journalism students they love to use the otter app for transcribing their interviews. There's also PhD students who are doing they're doing the research, dissertation. So, they are able to interview the subject and be able to go back and work on their paper, or just anybody who wants to write and get into a writer's block, sometimes it's just a lot easier just to talk it out, instead of staring at a blank, blank screen on your word processor, you can just speak it, and it might come out more naturally. Sometimes people even say that the tone and the, it just sounds more natural and conversational. So that's another tip for anybody who's doing work for authors and writers. You can also use otter for that purpose. But yes, We definitely got a lot of asks from not only higher educational institutions, but also K through 12 There are a lot of students who want to want to be able to study their courseware and be able to practice and listen back to the online classes. So yeah, it covers the entire range.

    Yeah, amazing and actually Jessica Laura had mentioned in the comment of the post today that she does best when she talks things out so if she's in state on, you know, you're welcome to come up, Jessica, but we have Adrian that has joined the stage, Adrian. Do you agree to be recorded by us in Otter AI this afternoon.

    Yes. Thank you. Um, I'm really happy to be here, as usual, and thank you for everything that you've shared, Simon. Um, I also, I haven't used this particular app. I started just using another app called noted, have you ever heard of it.

    Yes, no, that is. Yep, it's an iOS application I think.

    Okay, so I was curious as to whether you knew if, like, you know, there were benefits over other AI, other AI over noted. And then I was gonna ask about like, so like if, for example, like now we're on, we're using, everybody's using like their phone. And if we were using the otter AI, it would be like, I guess just kind of how that works for degree like able to record still on the phone or would it be having to record from another device like. So, if you could maybe kind of address that and then also I just wanted to say that using this sort of app has been really helpful for me in terms of like what you were saying about practicing to try to prove like not use the arms and all those sorts of things, because that's something that really still need. You can, yeah, but my original question.

    Adrian thank you for the questions, I will try to answer all of them and if I missed any of one of them. Let me know, okay. All right, so, so first of all, otter is really a multi platform multi device application you can access it from your phone. Earlier I mentioned iOS and Android phones you can access it from your tablets, you can access it from your computer, laptops, through a web browser is integrated with Zoom and Google Meet at this time. So, everything is saved in your secure otter Cloud account, it's saved in the cloud. So that's one key differentiation. It's also meant for, not just for personal note taking dictation. But as for multi party conversation it transcribe every single word. So rather than tapping into a recording and typing in the notes like and note it, it auto transcribe the entire thing so instead of typing, you're highlighting the words that are already automatically typed by otter. So that's one thing. Second thing, let's see. Second thing is, there's a lot of collaboration and sharing features earlier and and Jessica and myself were going over all the different use cases. So, let's say the recordings, not only just for yourself but you're taking meeting notes and you want to be able to send a comment to somebody or you want to highlight a few sections and add mention Jessica and say Hey Jessica. This sister portion of the meeting that I want you to take a look and maybe you can share the deck, afterwards, and maybe I can also paste the link, because during the meeting. I don't remember the URL but after the, after the fact, I was able to find, oh here's the indeed.com article that I was mentioning earlier, and here's the link, so that's great, you can go into otter to add it as a, as a comment. And to insert a clickable link, and also at mentioned, Jessica, and Anna, and therefore they will receive a notification, and people click on that and then see the additional information. So it's just very comprehensive very powerful system for you to take notes and collaborate from any devices. Did I answer all your questions. Yeah, that was very helpful. Yeah, it just, it gives me a much better idea, it sounds like what you said is just much more interactive and collaborative so awesome. Fantastic. And one thing I'd like to add is that, you know everybody has different learning styles and different note taking, habits, definitely don't want to say that all that replaces everything that you do, just like what Jessica was saying earlier, yes. Or actually, the other person who came on stage earlier, was saying that, you know I still find myself wanting to take notes, that's perfectly okay, but just know that you have that full recording transcript so that you can go back and refer to and listen to what you said or listen to what the other people said. So, think of it as an augmenting your existing habits, but adding more value so that you have the option to go back for more details.

    Very good, very good. Awesome. So, Jessica is joining the stage and do you agree to be recorded by otter.ai this afternoon here on clubhouse. I agree. Welcome. Hi everyone thanks for having me up on stage. And yeah, I was really excited to kind of hear and learn about otter, Because I had mentioned to Anna earlier in the day, just different thoughts on content creation so kind of hearing everything that you all have been saying and just your response to Adrian, I mean I'm already having thoughts of, you know I can be in bed or something, reading an article or reading some LinkedIn thought piece and I can just talk to myself like I normally go and talk all my thoughts out and then highlight and use that to post later on that would be so helpful. So, that, that sounds awesome.

    Go ahead, Simon. Absolutely, Jessica, so this is otter it's also great for content creators, whether it's drafting the information, you know, drafting, what by speaking like you were saying, but also when you actually speak in public, when you do public speaking, when you do coaching sessions, when you do podcasts when you do a live stream. I want to encourage you to also record yourself with otter, because you can turn that into subsequent content, you can repurpose a content that and turn from turn a live stream into a YouTube video, turn a YouTube video into a podcast turn a podcast into a blog post. There's so many ways that you can reuse the things that you are speaking, whether it's in a draft setting or in an actual public speaking settings so I highly encourage you use all the content creators to use otter for repurposing content and driving extending the reach of your audience by making one piece of your speaking work. Multiply, and be distributed to other channels.

    So quick question that can you repurpose in an otter recording into a podcast.

    So otter lets you highlight a paragraph or nugget of information and share it as a snippet. So let's say, Okay, in this session right here that we've done the recording, and actually I forgot to mention, I have tweeted the live transcript of this room right now. So if you go to my clubhouse bio, scroll down to the bottom and click on my Twitter profile. You will should be able to see that the first tweet. Underneath the pinned tweet is the live transcription of this room. So what you can do is that you go back to the transcript, and let's say there's a nugget of information that you can, you want to share, then you can highlight that portion and then click on Share link, and then you can repost that as a little snippet. So, a little nugget. So oftentimes for a podcast or maybe you're interviewing a guest, and there's one really good nugget of information that you want to share as a teaser to drive traffic to your podcast to listen to the entire episode, so that would be one method that you can use within otter.

    Oh, we might have to test that out it's from today I might have to circle back with you on exactly how to do that. That is amazing. I'm so excited. So Christine welcome to the stage. Do you agree to be recorded here on otter.ai Today, I do ama Thanks. Welcome. Thank you.

    So I am a job seeker but I am seeking a position in corporate training. So I am super excited about this because, again, there's a lot of conversation in my interviews about taking existing content and transferring it over to video. So, my two questions are the first one is, is this the transcript like easily translatable that say if I wanted to take it and bring it into PowerPoint and edited and create speaker notes one, and then the second. Can I use it to edit my timing. So say I had a, you know 20 minute module, and I was at 23 minutes and I needed to cut three out, you know, is that a way that I could effectively use that to you know to cut down my timing.

    Christine Can you repeat the first part again.

    The first part was, is the transcript like easily, you know, downloadable and transferable if I wanted to turn it into speaker notes and then paste them say into PowerPoint, where I had already a pre done slide presentation I wanted to put those notes into there.

    Yes, thank you for repeating that, yes, absolutely. So otter with the basic plan you can export to plain text, and with a pay subscription, you can also export to PDF. Microsoft Word doc, docx format. You can even export as the SRT subtitle format so the, so that you can combine it with your video content to provide closed captioning. So for anybody who has so that's fantastic. Exactly, because you know for courseware right you want to provide assessable accessibility for your, for your educational content, all the videos that you post online, so you can really utilize audio to be able to export to all these different formats to continue to workflow, whether it is for combining providing closed captioning for video or to edit further now for your second question is something on the roadmap currently auto does not provide you the ability to crop and edit the audio the recording itself. It lets you edit the text right so you can edit it, or more, you know make making corrections, because basically Auto has a verbatim transcript. So that, but that's something in the future that we were looking to support so that you can also edit a content. So the workaround is what I suggested earlier, if you are able to grab one content continuous segment, what I call a clip or snippet, then you can certainly do so by grabbing that snippet link, and then sharing it, But if you want to actually edit the audio, what you would have to do is export the audio as an mp3 from otter, and then you can do your audio editing using your favorite audio editing software. Okay, Great, thank you so much. You're very welcome.

    Amazing question Christine welcome Lisa, do you agree to be recorded today on otter.ai. You can unmute Now, Lisa. Thank you so much for that reminder.

    Yes, thank you. I do agree to be recorded Thank you Anna. I just have a quick follow up question to Simon an amazing tool I'm learning so much today. So as with otter AI is integration with Zoom or say clubhouse. Is it also transcribing the chat, the typed chat thread as well.

    Not at this time so currently otter is transcribing, what is spoken. So whatever that you can hear within the Zoom meeting, or whatever you can hear from the clubhouse room that's it. It does not include any of the chat, we are the Slack channel of all the chat messages that is not automatically included in the conversation.

    They do know, so that just as a reminder to save those chats as we normally would. Thank you.

    Absolutely, absolutely. Thank you for coming up, Avita welcome to the stage. Do you agree to be recorded this afternoon. Hi Anna I do welcome so glad to have you.

    Thank you. So I actually have been using otter, I don't remember how long, but I've been using it. I also use it for, you know, different types of conversations. And what I was wondering is, can you record, this is one thing I haven't tried or done but can you record. If you have, if you're not using the speaker. If you have a headset or if you're using your iPod, can the application still record without any issues.

    That's a fantastic question. Aveda. So yes, with the recent integrations with Zoom, and Google Meet that that would basically allow you to wear headphones, and still be able to record everything that you can hear from the Zoom meeting, and from the Google Meet, including your voice as well so all parties that are in the Zoom meeting and in the Google Meet meeting would be recorded and transcribed by leveraging the sofa zoom, you would use one of these otter integrations to zoom, we actually have several, but the most recent one is called otter assistant for zoom, and for Google Meet, you would go to the Google Chrome web store and search for otter.ai, for Google Meet, and you should be able to find the Chrome extension for

    just a moment of clarification of veto were you asking if you can use otter AI while you're on a phone call because I don't believe you can do that right Simon.

    Yeah, so not for regular phone call, but if your phone call hap, happens to be, you are dialing into a Zoom meeting or dialing into Google Meet, then you can most certainly use. Use headphones airpots because the otter is integrated with Zoom and Google Meet to take the audio directly from the meeting room itself.

    Okay, so, yeah, I think that helps clarify between a call, and, and the Zoom meeting so that does help to know and then the second question is and I think you answered it. i It's been a while but I think I tried once, trying to use it for a call that I had and the application said, you know you can't record, does that have to do with some of the legalities, we discussed earlier.

    That is a limitation that's imposed by iOS and Android themselves. So basically any type of phone calls, can not be recorded by another app. So it's not just otter app. Any other mobile applications running on iOS and Android, would not be able to record the phone call directly. So the work around that makes sense. Yeah, so the workaround, there actually to two workarounds. The first work, work around I mentioned through the direct integration with Zoom and Google Meet the second work around, if you're willing to not use headphones or air pods or earbuds, then you can put the phone call in loud speaker mode, and then just use another device to run otter, whether it's another a tablet, a desktop, laptop, and just press record, So that's what I call side by side recording, so using two devices one device for the call. But then, the caveat is that you won't be able to use headphones for your call.

    Right, okay, that's a good tip. So cash I lost my train of thought. Through the zoom or, you know, for those apps to do that you can record in the meetings, do you have to do anything to set that up or the applications automatically going to recognize your zoom call with our most recent

    integration integrations call auto assistant for zoom is a very simple setup is probably like 3030 seconds to one minute setup. Within otter is part of our auto business plan, it can basically join any zoom meetings that has a zoom link from your calendar event. In terms of other setups for Google Meet for example just download and install the Chrome extension, again, it's very simple. If you have any further questions or need additional help on setup, feel free to reach out to our support team or send me a DM I'll be happy to help you. Great thanks Simon, you very well

    done. You're welcome. Thanks for joining us, and that's what I do side by side so I'm on my phone, but my phone is resting on my laptop that has the other application opens so it's worked beautifully for me in the past, Miss Claire welcome to the stage one of our past, angels, do you agree to be recorded today. Oh absolutely, yes. Thank you so much for having me up here, I love your rooms. We love you, how would you say it's going great, I had to jump in here what I saw Simon was me here,

    Simon Hi, I'm Claire Davis of attraction resume, calm, and I help sales leaders land roles that they

    love through resumes and career coaching. So in that vein, I'm wondering if someone were to start using otter today in their job search, what's the first thing you would recommend they use it for.

    Welcome to the room Claire. In fact I share. In fact I, nice to meet you. So I've share three tips, earlier in this room but happy to summarize it for you. And since we have already ordered and recorded this conversation. You can go to my Twitter profile and listen back as well but I'll give a shortened version of my tips. The first tip is to summarize. That's right. So the first tip is, as a job seeker, that wants to do your interview preparations, you oftentimes you want to listen to podcasts and YouTube videos and whatnot to learn and pick up this skill set and make sure that you brush up your skills before you go into the interview. So you can use otter, to listen and learn faster, how you can, if you have a an audio file of the podcast or YouTube video, then great, you can input it import it into otter transcribe it, and then when it's done, you go into otter playback to x speed. My or one 1.5 or whatever the playback speed that you can breeze through the entire podcast, or you can do search, you can search to specific points, because sometimes the podcasts are really really long, you want to jump to the specific portion so it really saves you time, and as you're listening, you can highlight the important moments, so you can go back and refer and review and practice and listen again. So the first tip is listen and learn faster by importing your podcasts and YouTube videos. The second tip is to practice using otter by doing a mock interview. So you research, go on the website, go on Google and search for any of these common interview questions and you practice it with a friend, so use otter to record yourself, this entire mock interview, and go back and listen to see which interview questions you were able to answer succinctly and which new theme questions you're kind of ramble rambling, with real real long answers. So using otter for mock interviews is my second tip. And then the third tip is just to use otter to improve your speaking skills, pay attention to avoid excessive filler words, one or two thumbs up, might, might be okay, but if you say, arms and and likes and you knows every other sentence. That's something that you want to be aware of as you're listening back and be able to get rid of that and minimize that so that you can up your game in your interview, speaking skills. So those are my three tips.

    Awesome, thank you so much. Also you are a very accomplished speaker, and I noticed you rarely have any other audio so thank you. That's amazing, and I appreciate you. Give me the quick summary. Thank you so very much. Thanks for having me up here guys.

    Absolutely, always a pleasure to have you. And I know Simon that has back to back meetings and we are at the top of the hour. So we are going to close this room in the next four minutes and Simon I'm so incredibly full of gratitude for you taking the time to join the job search angels to be of service, and all of the education, insight, and value that you shared with this room this afternoon. We greatly appreciate your leadership, your voice and your service to inspire, motivate and help job seekers and career changers to be in a peak performance standpoint and use amazing tools like this that really can help accelerate them into amazing opportunities so thank you very very much.

    You're very very welcome Anna, it's a pleasure.

    Absolutely. So, just a little bit of housekeeping notes I brought Andrew up to the stage, because myself and a couple of the JSA community members are going to be testing out at two can, which is a digital virtual meeting space for potential future conversations networking opportunities, so I'm going to put the link in the chat so if any of you that are here tonight. Want to join us, we will be testing that out tonight at 715, or 415 Pacific Standard Time. And next week, we do not have a speaker so it's just going to be the JSA angels, and we are talking about doing a brief clubhouse room maybe 1530 minutes, and then hopping over to to Cannes, to basically have a summer solstice hangout party, you know, in lieu of our traditional rooms so more details coming for that, and Jessica did you Well Andrew, do you want to pipe in about to camera real quick.

    Sure, thank you. I did just put the link in the chat for anybody who is in the LinkedIn chat right now. So it's just like to plan dot events, slash job search, angels, I know a lot of the people that are in the room right now, including Claire and Jessica and others have already checked out the platform so it should be a pretty easy transition. But if anybody has trouble with it, they can definitely, you know, write to me through the, the chat that we have going now with today's JSA clubhouse room, and I can try to help them make make the jump but that works right inside the Chrome web browser, you don't need to download or install anything. And you can even sign into the platform with your LinkedIn account, or with a Gmail account, so it's pretty easy.

    Just make sure you remember which email address you use Simon Have you heard of this platform before.

    I think I have in fact probably we were featured in one of these like top apps for one of the last couple of years so nice to meet you, Andrew.

    Awesome. Awesome. Well perfect Jessica Williams Do you have any parting words as we complete yet another room of the job search angels here propels absolutely thank you Anna Thank you Simon so much for dropping those gems for job seekers entrepreneurs and business owners. It's definitely been a game changer for me so I hope that other job seekers, and entrepreneurs take full advantage of this platform and utilize it well. Great, great room. Yes, everyone makes sure that you follow otter.ai on, on LinkedIn, and any other places or exciting things that you want to let the crews know about Simon that you might have on the books moving forward.

    Well, so I have an offer and I have a gift for the people who stayed the entire time for this room so if you click on my clubhouse bio. If you click on my clubhouse bio scroll down to toward the middle, DMD trial, so send me a DM through Instagram or, or LinkedIn or Twitter. And I will offer you a free trial for otter.ai.

    Thank you, fries are so amazing. So friends, make sure you take advantage of that generous offer. Make sure that you make a post on LinkedIn or Instagram and share about your experience here tonight, And we will see you here next week, Wednesday with the job search angels 3pm Pacific 6pm Eastern and we are always super appreciative of your support your attendance. And with that, this room is complete. Thank you so much, Simon.

    Thank you so much for inviting me to this room. I have a lot of fun. Thank you everyone for joining. Bye.