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annotation to give you an overview of the project to familiarize with it. There are seven sites. However, it's one project and the overview will be followed by a technical presentation to address the various variances that we've come before you to request today.

Okay. Let's take a look at the presentation I'd

like to introduce Bishop Edgar van who was the founder of Vanguard and our community development nonprofit partner in the north and landing venture.

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Can you raise your on your phone please, you find your testimony before the board today's truth Yes, thank

you. Thank you state your name one more time for the record. Please state your name one more time for the record.

Yes, my name is Bishop Edgar L. Van.

Okay. Thank you. And will you be presenting today or

I am going to give the introductory remarks prior to the rest of the presentation. Okay. You have the floor. Thank you. And good morning to all of you. And Bishop Edgar Valle van I am the founder of Vanguard community development and law lifelong Detroit resident with a track record of dedicated service to the city of Detroit. I have done so in a wide multiplicity of capacities and accomplishments. The last 47 years I've been pastor of second Ebenezer church in Detroit, and 30 years ago I founded the Vanguard community development. I have many years of broad array of programs that have gone through Vanguard and services to the community youth development educational initiatives, jobs and job training, extensive work with seniors Fine Arts, and community stewardship. We have developed hundreds of units of housing and today from this world class development team you will hear more about the exciting new development in the north end that we are proposing. The wealth of experience and deliverability that this team has is unparalleled. And second to none and so, I appealed to this honorable body that you would give your full consideration to this major development that will take place in the north end. With that I would want to introduce again Ron McDonald, who is one of the principal developers of this north and landing. Thank you.

Thank you if we could go through the first couple of slides here which actually went along with the bishops remarks. We have assembled the development team, some of the finest firms here in the city of Detroit to endeavor upon the redevelopment of the North Atlantic site. We have a strong contingent of minority firms who we have identified. Next slide please sir.

As you see here, here's our team leadership at Bishop Edgar bam you see Pam Martin Turner, who's the CEO of Vanguard, Darrell Carter, who is my partner, the CEO of ivantage could not be here today. But he is part of our obviously team leadership. Myself, Jason Jones, who is a local minority developer who has joined our team to bring about a very significant component of the development program. Eric stone from Vanguard has also worked in project management for us, Sheila cockerel as well. Who's done our community engagement effort and Lee Carter, who's headed up our design team. All of them are with us here today. Next slide. So next slide. Here, just some of the highlights. The Vanguard, Bishop van spoke of some of the development that has been done, the way the project has come together. Darrell Carter, both Darrell and myself, for Detroit natives were born and raised here. There was a Cass Tech graduate went on to Michigan. I am a USD Jesuit graduate went on to the US Naval Academy. We've known each other for approximately 40 3040 years. We always talked about coming back here to the city of Detroit, and working and getting a project done. And for several years, just because of some of the challenges that were presented in the city economically, politically, etc. There wasn't the proper landscape until we were introduced to Vanguard. Darrell Carter had gone to college with Pam Martin turn to the CEO and she reached out to him and spoke about a project that she had been working to try and get done there in the north end unsuccessfully. And we came and took a look at the project and Darrell said, hey, you know, here's our opportunity, we can go back home and reinvest in our city. So that brought us here and I want to say that was 2018. So this has been a five year endeavor to get us to this point. Very committed to the effort here in the city we wish to ivantage has no go through the slides here. You know $4 billion under management and it is our hope that we can invest a significant component of funding here in the city of Detroit and that starts here with not then landing. Next slide. The next slide. Advantage has approximately 15,000 units under management across the country major minority owned affordable housing provider. As I stated their assets under management number of approaches 4 billion. They're rated in the top six of affordable housing providers across the country worked with 64 different housing agencies and regulatory agencies across the country. Next slide. Approximately 450 employees being it is a national company again with 15,000 Plus units under management. Next slide. Slide represents leadership. Obviously Daryl Carter is CEO very diverse leadership group reflected throughout the ranks of ivantage. Next slide. This is the footprint nationally of some of the markets where ivantage is active. Here in Detroit. Thank you here in Detroit. We began the project again looking at North and landing, about two years in we purchased two properties in the north end, Cameron court and north and village to demonstrate one our commitment to the city. And it is a goal over the next five years that we can increase to 1500 units under management in the city of Detroit. Next slide. As I stated next slide, both of us are Detroiters. I'm an Naval Academy graduate, been involved in commercial real estate for some 30 plus years, worked on a host of projects around the country convention centers stadiums worked for the Walt Disney Company, etc. But again, never an opportunity to be able to do something here in the city of Detroit. Obviously 177 units of multifamily, you know, is much smaller than some of the efforts I've been involved in. But again, this is our hometown and this is a legacy project, which speaks to the five year commitment that we have made up to this point to get this done. Next slides are now about North and landing. Next slide. So this is a footprint of the North End landing site we have 36 parcels which make up our development footprint. 34 of those parcels are vacant. You see the shaded parcels there in red. Those parcels have been set aside for a forced sale development component, which was came directly out of the community engagement effort for the North Atlantic project of the 15,000 units across the country, not a single one of them is a For Sale unit. So this is an unprecedented step that was taken in direct response to a request from the neighbors that there be a form of investment which included for sale housing. Next slide. Our development program is approximately $43 million. We will invest in this project 177 units 55,000 gross square feet 20% of affordable at 80% Ami we will actively solicit section eight vouchers to bring about deeper affordability on the project. We've worked with members of council as well as the housing agency to start down the road of being in the position to offer vouchers. We have 95 age restricted senior housing units and three and four storey buildings, which are located at John Arne Smith. They're at two apartment multifamily units which scaled down to two stories throughout the rest of the project. Next slide, sir. Is an overall view of our site plan. This is our site plan as it is today. As you will see in some of the upcoming slides. This is not where the project began. This again was the result of significant community engagement. So there were major modifications that have been made to the development program, as well as the physical footprint of the buildings here. One of them being as you can see on this slide, the addition of C significant green space that's gone from 5% to 30%, which represents a 500% increase just in the green space alone. Next slide, sir. Thank you. Now I spoke about the community engagement effort which has been extensive, particularly over the last year or so. We have had our community engagement effort, championed and shepherded by Sheila cockerel who has worked extensively also with the Vanguard community developing for in being able to sponsor and champion the Community Development development efforts. She's going to speak to that now.

I do. Thank you, sir. For the record,

my Sheila Cockrell. Good afternoon. Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the of the BCA. It's my honor to be here in front of you and it's also my honor to be here representing the North End lending project. It's been a, you know, a highlight of my career post Council of working with a group of development team like this team. These are folks from Detroit. These are two African American men who are putting bringing back real dollars and real opportunities for people in the city. So it's been a really good thing and community engagement. There has been a great deal of it. I'm going to just quickly go through and 2021 there were meetings held by council president Sheffield, this is in her district. We participated actively in all and many of them we met with many times the north end use Improvement Council Mary Bennett kings organization around the dollar spent at Parc we established a really good relationship with the men of the North End have been involved with them. Subsequently, in 2022. There were multiple meetings with the lower north and black club. This is the origin of the group that the negotiations if you will, that were conducted about making changes around referenced to the plan. That was the organization that we were advised was the group that we should be speaking with. We've done that and then 2021 and 22 I want to spend most of my time I will not be long talking about it is that the development team held over 20 meetings with individual small groups to to get people's perspective on the new the new plan that had been developed. The it's important to note that, as I said, This is President Sheffield's district she has had a major role on conducting community meetings. We have since February, had people come and supported the project speak publicly at 13 separate public hearings that have been held by the Brownfield authority by the Planning and Development Committee of the council. And by the city council itself. It's important to say that one of the hallmarks of this process has been that we listen to all voices. Everybody's voice has the right to be heard. People that we don't agree with people who don't like the project people who will never support this project. I've had the right to be heard, and indeed, some of the suggestions some some folks have made have been incorporated into the plan. So there is so but I do want to note, a couple things. One, that the last community meeting that was held was set up by council president Sheffield and Doris Bennett Park on July 6, we had over 50 people in attendance. The President conducted the meeting was an opportunity for again, all voices to be heard. At the end of that process. The President conducted a poll and in writing poll that verified people's addresses and of the people who responded to the poll. 33 people in the at the at the gathering supported the project. 18 people opposed that that was on July, on July 6. I'm also really pleased to say that when we went to the vote to a vote by City Council for the Brownfield plan and for the PA 210 certificates, we achieved a nine oh vote which to me is an accomplishment of which I am quite proud. But it shows that the community has engagement has been really critical. Members Johnson and waters attended the July 6 meeting that was set up by count the council president. There was again lots of individual offices, Council offices have done their own outreach in the neighborhood north and is well known community in the city and council members have been very engaged with people in the neighborhood hearing the different voices and point points of view. So I think just want to reiterate that we have take community engagement. It's a hallmark of this project to have engagement with the community. And that will there will be continuing engagement. It doesn't stop now. There are as we said seven sites they're going to be developed over time. There will be regular ongoing engagement with residents in the community around the project as opposed to construction. Thank you very much for your time. I turn it back to Ron. Okay.

Thank you, Sheila. The community engagement effort as stated here has been extensive. As I said, I've done this for 30 plus years, and this is probably one of the most intensive community engagement efforts that I have ever been involved with. Community engagement is Sheila said you have people who will never agree. And then you've got a percentage of people who want changes and may not like the project as presented, but once you listen and make those changes, you will have people who come over to the other side. And we've done that here. We've worked extensively to make changes to our plan and our program. And I want to go through some of those now. Get to the next slide.

Get out one more yesterday. Here we are. So here's the view of the project. This scene from the southeast This is the aerial view. The last minute Park is they're located there at the center. One of the most heavily used parks within the city it's received significant capital improvements from the city. Thus you have a lot of people who come to enjoy the park. So it serves as somewhat of a centerpiece around which we have developed, proposed the development of North End landing Next slide please. Here in this slide, you can see our original development program. It's relatively dense as it relates to the absence of any green space. We were here at 5% green space on this particular plan. The community was not happy about the lack of green space. So we removed buildings we reduced building footprints. The buildings are much smaller and we ended up with the net result. Next slide sir, of of a significant addition of brain space, you can see that there's spacing between the buildings there. And also this will articulate the fact that we the larger buildings that are there located to the left located closer to John are those were multifamily buildings when we started. I mentioned earlier that we purchased Cameron court, which is a senior building, which is also located in the north end. It's about five minutes from this development site. One of the things that we noted when we purchased Cameron court was the fact that the parking lot was often you know, most basically sat half full. And in standing there we moved by his partner and Derrick Carter. said why don't we change the programming of North End landing to senior majority senior housing project. So they're 95 Senior units came out of that decision and as I talked about Dolores Park being heavily used, we we did not create a parking problem in the neighborhood. There is one there that exists that we absolutely understood that we could not ignore the parking problem. So one of our major solutions to addressing the parking problem was to change our program for multifamily to seniors as well. We heard from many seniors within the north end, who wanted to remain in the north end they had homes that they did not want to continue to maintain and they were looking for an option to remain in their neighborhood. And that was also part of the decision to make that change. Next slide sir. So four major concerns came out of the community engagement effort. The first was that the project does not address homeownership. The second major concern was the lack of green space. The third was there was a lack of community investment. And lastly, the population parking issue which I've talked about just a little bit next slide, sir. Thank you. So to address the homeownership issue, as I said, we have 15,000 units across the country. We took an unprecedented step of we partnered with Jason Jones of Tecton local Detroit developer, who also went to my high school u of D Go Cubs. And he has worked with us over the last two to three years to bring about the component of the North End landing project which will deliver aid for sale affordable homes. As part of the project. The lack of green space I've touched on that. We obviously reprogram the site significantly reduced building footprints eliminated buildings to go from 5% to 30%. For lack of community investment, we have a crowdfunding venture which will allow residents of the North end to invest directly alongside us. In the north landing project. We're establishing a $100,000 small business fund for businesses located within the north end we have a $3,000 homeowner exterior rehabilitation credit. This will allow homeowners who are adjacent to our development footprint to have $3,000 worth of exterior repairs done on their homes. We understand, you know from a business standpoint, obviously the better we are able to make the entire neighborhood look, the more we're able to protect our $43 million investment in the project during the council hearing that she looked Koco referenced where we received the unanimous vote. She also noted that there were members of council who were very involved in our community engagement effort and one of the questions asked at council was whether or not we would allow $3,000 to be used to be used on masonry fences, fencing versus the fencing that we had suggested in the project and we agreed at council that we would do that. So we will allow homeowners to take that $3,000 and invest in in a masonry fence versus the wood fence which we have proposed. It's an agreement that obviously we made it Council and we do intend to honor we have a commitment to partner with local artists for all of our art there and we have program funding for the North End youth Improvement Council at the last minute Park. Lastly was the parking issue which I have addressed we reprogrammed the development program to include 95 senior housing units. And again, we understand from a code standpoint that does not necessarily satisfy the parking problem. And obviously we're here before you today seeking a variance for that. But again, you know, we believe that we've made an extensive effort to try and address a parking issue that we did not create. Next slide sir. You as part of the home loan, part of the homeownership initiative, it was necessary to establish a neighborhood enterprise zone. So the neighborhood enterprise zone etc is also something that was approved it Council you know and as again as Sheila cockerel stated many all of these different the the entitlements and the incentives that we've worked to bring forward. All required significant public input, the Republic hearings held for all of them. And again, we were able to have the neighborhood enterprise zone approved that will facilitate the development of the for sale component. Next slide, sir. I'd like to introduce Jason Jones. I spoke about him and his involvement in our effort. He is the local Detroit developer, who will be responsible for delivering the for sale component for North Atlantic

the morning you say to name Jason Jones. Okay.

I do. Good morning board members. My honor and pleasure to be here. My name is Jason Jones. I'm managing member of Tecton development in Detroit bass minority based development firm. I also reside in the city of Detroit sin to children at dpscd schools and in love my city. That being said, it is also an honor and pleasure to welcome both Darrell Carter and Ronald McDonald back home. I want to make sure I fully express how big of a deal it is to see successful businessman who are titans in our industry, return home and do projects. Not just that but also create opportunity for developers such as myself, to partner with them and grow my business through their participating with them. It's again an honor and a pleasure to do that. That being said, I'll tell you just briefly about the for sale component that is a community community benefit that has been brought forward. As you will see on the slide, we are bringing aid for sale townhomes to the north end on the corner of brush and Smith. Our vision is for those to be affordable for sale townhomes. Our thought our goal is to bring those to market at a rate of $150,000 or less for new construction for sale townhomes that is very difficult to achieve but is certainly the goal that we are seeking. As you move forward on the next slide, you'll see not only the elevations are modern, but appropriate for the north end. They are also again oriented toward brush Street to again improve the density and walkability within the community. They are on the blog just north of divorce Bennett Park also designed to allow those residents to participate in amenity to the south as well next to each unit is a two bedroom, two and a half bath townhouse that townhome that offers one car garage on its first floor as well as a Zoom Room for meeting greeting and receiving guests. On the second floor you will find a kitchen, living room and a half bath on the third floor. You'll find two full bathrooms as well as two full bedrooms for sleeping. Again these townhomes are about 12 150 square feet. They offer one car garage and are designed to sell to affordable residents and $150,000 or below targeting 80% Ami and below as homeownership. That being said, I think that is all I'm supposed to share with you this morning about that project. We've got the next one, but before we

proceed, Jones can you go back to that first pictorial

so can you go back to slides this 111 before to bed one more yep there we go. Yes sir. In a pretty I like it thank you for any questions. If not,

where you complete? Where you're where you complete with your thoughts.

Yes, sir. Okay.

If that will yield the floor back to Mr. McDonough. Thank you for your time.

Thank you all right.

Thank you, Jason.

Next slide, sir, please our estimated project timeline. The city council approval occurred in July 25. Obviously today we're here at the Board of zoning appeals. We have advanced several of our activities with an effort gressive effort to try and began construction in October November of this year. Obviously we've spent five years on 177 unit project. So from the economic standpoint, that hasn't necessarily been the best scenario but again, it's to demonstrate our commitment to not just this project, but the entirety of our investment efforts here in Detroit. First building will complete September October of 2024 and the last building will be completed in q1 of 2027. Again, you see that three plus year construction schedule. We could probably get that done a lot quicker. But we think we will have much less of an impact on the neighborhood because the buildings will be delivered over time so you won't have 177 residents impact the neighborhood on day one. Again, you have 36 vacant lots. So there's going to be a significant change from the population of 177 people there. And we scale that over time that will be less of an impact both from a construction standpoint as well as the population impact on the neighborhood. Next slide, sir. Here's the approved pa 210 District which our commitment in this project was to do it all with private funding. While we have not asked for any subsidies. Here we are using leveraging the economic development tools PA to 10, the Brownfield and the neighborhood enterprise zone. So we are combining all of those to help feasibility of the project. Again, Pa 210 district was established with extensive community engagement and public hearing regarding that next slide, sir, please. This is the rehabilitation credit boundary that I spoke about. That yellow boundary represents the blinds anyone who has a chase inside of those boundaries is eligible for the $3,000 credit so you can see it's a relatively significant footprint for the rehabilitation credit. Next slide, sir. Lastly, here the utilization of Detroit based contractors. We obviously have a commitment, not just in partnering with the firms who we brought to the table. You know, the Hamilton Anderson's Jason Jones, the our minority environmental consultant, etc. We think that over the period that we are here, we are able to engage significant minority participation on the contractor side, we estimate 200 contractor construction jobs, three to four permanent jobs. Also because of the way our program lays out with the smaller buildings, we think we're going to be able to get some of the smaller minority contractors involved on a project of significant scale that they otherwise would not have the opportunity to participate on. So we are excited about that. With that I would like to transition into addressing the direct requests that we have for the various variances and I'd like to introduce to start that process our engineer we've hired Spaulding to Decker Tricia DeMarco is here with us today. And she will pick up and we'll start us through the request for the variances fishing.

Warning for me testimony for today is true. I do think

All right. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. I'll be speaking today. Can

you state your name for the record? Yes, I'm

Trisha DeMarco, I'm the Detroit market lead for Spalding Decker a civil engineering and urban planning firm based in Milwaukee junction just south project area and a Detroit resident. I'll be running through some of the technical components of the request with variants today. Okay. So we've heard some of the project context. The project area is the North end you can see the seven sites as demonstrated on the slides

the North End neighborhood as seen from aerial view you can see the adjacency to to News Center and the at&t building directly next to some of the and across the street from some of the project areas.

Good morning again, my name is Jason John speaking in support of Trisha as well part of one of the things that from a philosophical perspective we'd like to make sure that we share is that the project is designed as one community with several sites. So part of our philosophical approach, not just to the construction, not just to the community itself, is that it is one community and we are spreading the resources and the amenities and the participation across those sites. One thing that is very important to note, as you're looking at the aerial view, is that the larger densities are loaded toward John are those are literally in the shadow of the 14 story. ATM, formerly at&t building. It's also particularly important to note that both building sites one and building sites two are literally the parking lot so the former parking lots that are currently blighted, they can parcels that were being parked on by those at&t employees when that building was active. And you can see that from the overhead views as well. So again, as part of standard urban planning, we've had tons of conversations and architects are here as well to discuss it. They they have recommended that higher density be loaded toward the transit oriented development on John R but also that that higher density be used as a buffer as we look to step down into the neighborhood as well. So you'll see that

alright, site context, we're within a transit oriented development corridor. We're about a 10th of a mile from the q line and Woodward, two tenths of a mile from the boulevard and you know, right now the neighborhood is highly residential and character with single family and multifamily residential and directly adjacent to some high density commercial border.

So here's an overview of the seven sites one community that we'll be discussing further today. As you've heard from Ron, this is 177 total units with a 20% commitment to minimum commitment to affordability 95 units earmarked for senior housing and that will directly affect how we're looking at variances today. Here's the vision of the community in a in a rendering and then again from the southeast side. So overall site plan, a bit of a closer look. And when thinking about parking when thinking about how these seven sites work together, it's important to remember the context to to Woodward the bid the availability of, of transit oriented rail, the commitment that the city has made, and invested in that bus rapid transit also along Woodward and walkability to the commercial corridors.

One added point around transit already in one backside one slide back around the transit oriented development, one thing that you'll notice from the site plan is that the higher densities are also loaded toward the west, which is closest to transit. You'll also noticed that those elderly structures are also closest to transit, giving those elderly residents the shortest distance to public transit and to the Woodward corridor with both bus and with rail lines available to them. So again, the design was very first I was very conscious that we wanted to load the highest density is toward the west toward the most dense areas of the geography and so we developed a community

actually, if you could flip back the the trade master plan has this middle Woodward neighborhood, earmarked for increased infill development on vacant lots and increased density in the neighborhood. We also know the density is directly tied to affordability and the the future land use designation for the neighborhood is an RLM which is characterized by townhomes and multifamily residential. When looking at the topic of variance specific to parking, I think it's important to look at these seven sites together that's something that we have. We've taken a balance across the project into consideration. So you know, in accordance with the zoning ordinance, we have, we have met parking on a number of sites, we have just two sites are our our sites closest to the transit oriented development that have the opportunity to use parking at our over park sites or park our sites that have more parking than would be required by zoning. But also we know that they're going to have the higher likelihood for mode share. So opportunities for using the cue line using the bus system using walkability and also senior housing. So if we flip to the next slide

also aligning the parking point one of the things that is absolutely critical is that the development has been conscious of parking in the neighborhood we know that the Lord has been a part is highly utilized and that on certain days of the year, certain times of the day, it can create significant burden on the neighborhood. Part of what we have consciously done is designed sufficient parking so that this development does not overburden the already stressed infrastructure within the neighborhood. Additionally, as you will note on each of those slides there are what were the we had the opportunity we created additional spots that supported those those structures and again, any resident and part in any one of those structures if overflow is required additional and lastly, all of those parking structures are access via the alley. So that is not just by our design but also by preference within the planning department. So those while most of the residents that will visit Dolores Bennett are accessing via Street. Our residents are accessing the parking which is alley loaded through the alleyways and again, that off street is by plan and by design and preference from city planning in our more dense neighborhoods of the city, hasn't it? And then since it's on the screen, I can't help it ignore two slides down. I can't help ignore that, as you'll note the density on the John our slide if you can go back one slide. As you'll notice, a venoth owns Cameron court in the north end, less than five minutes away from this project site. Cameron cord is an elderly building, again owned and operated by a veteran. And this is a photo of what the parking lot looks like. It's not that elderly residents don't have cars but the one of the practical matters is as they age, they operate vehicles less than less and that is just part of what practically has been done to program that building again to minimize the parking load that is created at the site. So again, that's just a simple case study, but is demonstrative not just of event its investment in the city of Detroit, but their investment in the North End and what parking looks like at their actively operated projects on a normal day.

Right, so, looking to the next type of variance that we'll be discussing today F AR and density. So we know that F AR AR floor area ratio for these projects in just two cases or our what higher than the zoning ordinance is allowable administrative relief and and that's why we're before you today. But the adjacency to you can see here the 10 storey at&t building the alignment with the city of Detroit master plan, we feel that this this typology is well suited for the areas that it's been selected.

Only point that is important to make sure we know is not just that we think that it is strong it is important thing to do for the geography is provide the density provide the Senior Living provide the affordability, that affordability also is is the density that is brought forth is a requirement to provide affordability. You can't just ask for affordability as we know our city needs and not also supported with the density that allows it to be economically feasible. So again, part of the reason why we loaded that density toward the western portion is because one it can also handle it, too. It also supports the additional affordability, but also three it really is good design because you can't ignore the 14 storey building literally across the street from it and allowing it to step down lower creates a very very stark contrast. And is is not in the best standards and best practices of design. So the way the site was loaded, it's four storey on the west, two storeys literally everywhere else.

Let's break this up limit, if we can concentrate for this for the time being on the initial site 202 Smith, and we'll do the rest later let's let's just knock this one out.

All right. Yeah, so torture Smith is actually a great one because you can see this slide covers contextual setbacks for the community overall. And when we look at setback, the discussion around setback we're gonna be looking at how it relates to the homes directly adjacent.

Alright, next let's

let's address to the variances your question for this one.

All right. So looking at at building one, we're looking at front setback, with a required setback of 20 feet and a proposed setback of eight feet. This comes back to our contextual layout which is alignment with the residential structures along the rights of way side set back is similarly aligned with the context of the residential structures. The floor area ratio for the project required point seven provided 1.6 We've we've discussed how density aligns with commercial corridor directly across the street. That density has been biased toward Woodward Avenue and we feel that it's aligned with the Master Plan and the planning and development initiatives for the neighborhood. For parking spaces 27 required 15 provided this is for building one which is a senior housing development. We know from existing of Anath developments that this this user group has a lower parking need and lower parking generation. We also know that the mode choices with walkability, rail, bus rapid transit are all options, as well as the balance with other sites within the development. recreational space requirement. Again, looking at the balance throughout the development. Buildings four and five really have a nice wide parklet that are designed to provide recreational space that can be used by building one or any of the other buildings as well. And then on residential screening, looking at providing still an opaque screen wall with a change of materiality that that the project team feels is more appropriate with residential character and is the smaller footprint. That's a quick rundown of building one variances and how we think how we feel relief from variances. Would it make sense?

Sure. So again, for clarity on building one we have parking, front setback, Fer recreational space and residential screening that's on building one putting it in context, we'll just jump into the site itself. As you'll note on the site again, as alluded to you can see the remnants of what was previous parking for the at&t building is currently blighted and follow from development. Again our vision is to bring a significant parcel and walkable community from their next slide you will see the actual vision that we plan to bring forward that is a four storey elderly community which is 100% residential there is no commercial space on this access. Again it is on the corner of John bar and on Smith Street, directly adjacent. The building was designed with modes and typology that you see within the North End in Mind, similar materiality, similar heights, similar setbacks, etc, etc. All of the things that you expect from high quality design have been incorporated in this project. Lastly, you will see the actual physical site plan what you'll notice as is typical standard for design, you want the hard corner that is Smith and John are to be activated. Therefore the building sits on that corner and you want parking to be diminished from that hard corner. So parking is access through the rear of the site. Again via the alley. There's both landscaping and shielding from adjacent parcels as well. And lastly, just as is standard design. The goal is multiple entrances to access both John R and Smith to enhance the walkability for those elderly residents. This project again is a 34 storey building on the corner of John R and Smith. And setbacks align with context. We have we have much more to present, but we don't want to get ahead of ourselves.

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Yeah, who's responded to the questions here?

We'll have the applicant respond. Okay. Great.

And I'm gonna go to the department's next at their boardroom now to answer your question, and then we're gonna go into section 54 121 approval criteria again. That's so boring. We're not had a question. Okay, we're gonna wait. Okay, great.

All right. Let's

go to the department stores. Your anxiety this Miss Wilson in the morning, Miss Felson. Good morning

board members. Good morning Chair. I'm sorry. I do not have the site. Plan. Review Letters up at the moment. I'm sorry. I was in another meeting this morning and am ill prepared right now but we did do a site plan review on some of these sites. And we did approve those with conditions that the applicant come before the board today to get those deficiencies wage. I am currently trying to bring on my site plan review letters

Mr. ribride is pulling it up for you

Okay, right, here you go. Jada Overlander.

Thank you, Director. Um, so yeah, so we did a few of the sites we did not do Site Plan Review Letters on all of the sites because they did requirements for site plan review, but all of the sites that we did do site plan review forehead deficiencies that needed to be that need to be weighed by this board. Okay.

All right. And to the board you all see all the deficiencies here. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you, Miss Filson. Any questions for Mr. Felson? Front of board? Right here and on CNN. Let's go directly to there's no report from planning and development. So let's go directly to 24 121 approval criteria.

And I'm going to start with let's start with warmer nap the first two questions.

121.

Okay, this is a question about the master plan is the requested variance or administrate administrative consistent with the Master Plan and the spirit of the master plan

current adjustments requested are consistent with Master Plan.

My second question is if you can explain each deficiency and why you cannot meet the letter of the ordinance and in that explanation, particularly with your parking the the waiver or the variance that you're asking for. If it were to be granted, where would the people park if there was added space and maybe that goes to your plan of the over parking? I thought they said that over parks, there's

an overall that we can demonstrate. If you look at all of the sites, there's an opportunity for shared parking

and with that, what is the proximity of that parking space that over parking space to the units

that can't be shown on the plan? It's the adjacent buildings and across the street.

So I'm just concerned about the senior citizens and others who may have difficulty they have to walk a long way. So anyway, so the question is, can you explain each deficiency and why you cannot meet a letter of the ordinance?

They tied to economic feasibility, which ties directly to the affordability goals. The city one there must be a certain amount of density in order to allow a project to be economically feasible. So that goes to the heart of the density and the requirement for a certain number of units to make the project feasible. There's a difficulty here and responding to the transit oriented development principles which require or state that a density can be tied to the city's already existing investment in the infrastructure to transit there. And it change challenges the city's affordability goals, you know, as it relates, which are accomplished again by density

Okay, for more next two questions.

Good morning. If we grant the variance, what will it do for your business and the site was being built? I'm sorry, if we grant the variance. What will it do for your business and the site where it's being built?

variates will alleviate the tension between the current zoning code existing parcels and the city core and pervert preferred visions for density as well as walkability.

Explain how your business will not cause any adverse impact on other businesses wrong.

Actually, the project will have we believe a positive impact it will enhance the severely blighted neighborhood returned fallow property to productive use and the tax rolls at 177 new residents to the north inner neighborhood and obviously having a positive impact on the population in the city of Detroit. Contribute property taxes to the City of Detroit's general fund. And the $43 million investment will serve as a catalyst for additional development, additional businesses as well as additional services for the residents.

And I just want to ask a question about the parking. I'm saving assuming that there's no assigned parking to this particular building for the I think you have negative 11 parking spaces or 15 parking spaces where there's no assigned parking to keep seniors in that particular building.

No, and as we operate camera court pretty much in the same manner where there is no assignment just a general parking lot. And I think as stated, we find that the seniors do not use the parking spaces that are allowed not just a camera court but in our portfolio across the country, which about 30% of it is made up singers Thank you.

Thank you for being Watson next two questions, sir.

If there are any impacts from renting experience, how will you deal with

the development team here has both the experience and the resources to work directly with the community to address any adverse aspects that may arise as quickly and as effectively as possible?

And what is special about your site, this particular site that is different from the other sites around you so

the site requires adjustments to one facilitate the affordability again driven by density. And again, the ability to locate density near the city's already existing investment in transit. Thank you.

Former Roberts next two questions.

Mr. McDonald when you purchase the property what was your intent or plan?

Plan in when purchasing the property. Our plan was to purchase the property for we purchased the property specifically for the development of a multifamily component that had a significant affordability component for City of Detroit.

And we begin be conducting any other business on the property other than what's been presented here today.

We will not Thank you.

Thank you and former farming Good morning.

Our your request benefit other homes in the area

thinks substantial benefit will be affected by again the return of severely blighted and fallow property to productive use of the tax rolls will result in an increase in both businesses as well as services for the existing area residents.

Is there anything we could have done other than what you are requesting today? No. Is this city owned land or property? Yes.

A couple additional questions.

Can you elaborate

on the city owned land and property?

Yes, the property the property were former land bank lots. We obviously own the property now. But this was land bank and there's a development plan required as part of that purchase.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Any additional questions from the board at a couple more questions? Okay, we're in sermon, Dan. We're not

in regards to the construction of the alley to create the parking lot. How far will it extend? Will it extend behind the three homes that's next to the development on Smith or just that particular corner on John R?

And Smith will the parking extend be?

So in that picture, it shows the throw away the alley, or whatever it is to be able to park in the back? How far will the construction go down that alleyway or is it just that particular corner for your lot?

And this is the alley behind the 202 deals? Yes. As far as will we complete the entire alley? Yes. Is the question. I don't believe so. Jason and Trish, I don't have the plan and prefer

it keeps referring to the impact of traffic. Right. Well access an alley. Yeah. So

it's three homes next to the development. Yeah. So I'm asking, Will the alley construction extend behind those homes as well? Or just your particular unit?

That's my art. Yeah.

As the presentation still no available, okay. So the alley restoration it's a public city of Detroit alley and restoration for 202 Smith Street will be directly adjacent to the project boundaries. So it won't go past 202 Smith three in this case. Okay.

And my last question is regarding the height of the construction, I believe you said it was four storeys. Do you think that that would affect the greenhouse that's across the street? And anyway?

Yeah, I think that we have our architects here today, so I'm gonna look at them to just give me a head nod to confirm but as part of their due diligence, they look at shading and lighting studies and and they have not identified any adverse impacts.

Thank you. Thank you. We're gonna

know I'll reserve my question for the next packet.

Okay, great. And then just the questions. Okay, board and Roberts.

First, I appreciate all the community development that you did as a community organizer, organizer myself, I greatly appreciate that as well as the presentation today. A couple of questions that I have the walking path that was on there, is that existing or is that something that you're doing?

That would be proposed the one at a building form building five?

Thank you. In terms of parking, are you going to be charging your residents for parking?

A nominal rate Yes, they will be charged. affordable units will be discounted, but yes.

And then lastly, you have a description or a visual on the screening that's proposed.

Somewhere you

describe it at all.

What screening

Oh, the screening. Yes. So if you have the PowerPoint, it would be toward the very last pages

of the paper copy.

I don't have it on my

Venice Beach.

Okay, so this can be passed around but what's proposed is an opaque wooden fence.

Thank you.

Okay. And additional questions from the board to the petitioner regarding

when you go to Smith,

yeah. 202 Smith Street. Thanks a lot.

For relaxing. You know, okay, remember what Okay.

All right. Thank you very much. All right. At this point in time, we're going to go to community testimonials. And we'll call you all back up after testimonials. Okay, regarding this matter today at 202 Smith Street. Anyone here in support of this project and you want to hear and support this project? Anyone here and support his project? If you are in support, please come down to the podium.

Mr. Chairman, you have a raised hand also.

Okay, I'm gonna go to them next. our virtual participants feel Talbert next. Oh, out there. Folks here present if you are a virtual participant that is in support of this project, please press star nine by phone option plus y by MAC device by by keyboard.

Please sign up up here.

Alright, if you are in support and you are virgin virtual participant, please press star nine by phone option plus y by MAC device plus wi by keyboard. If you're present please line here. This meeting once again, this is support.

So for the four people that are standing on the swiggy all at same time. Would you all raise your own hands please your phone your testimony for the for today's truth? Yes, thank you.

Okay, can you state your name

and address for the record? My name is Joe Leal Smith, and my residence is 268 East Euclid. I also own the property on brush the corners of rush and you quit as well and I also had bought some property on Mount Vernon in the north end area. So I've been in North End resident for the last 10 years. Came here thought I'd be here for about three years but i i You know, just having the neighborhood grow and what does the city and and other developers and, and community people have have done to bring back the communities. I also bought three houses across the street from Northwestern High School trying to go from light to light. That was my social responsibility part of coming to Detroit and being a developer and trying to bring back to communities. I was I'm impressed with North and landing and and Sonia Mays and all the other developers that have come into that community and made a big difference. We're bringing back that community. I hope to see more projects like the north end. I think this is probably one of the biggest, most significant developments other than the q line that I've seen come to the north end, and I just hope to see it. Hope you guys can approve it and hope we can move forward. Thank you.

Thank you. All right, next person. And let's let's condense this down to one minute, please. All right.

Yep. If

you state your name and address for the record, sir.

My name is Ralph Burrell. My address is 31430. Coach light Lane Bingham farms in

your your community testimonial, why are you here?

Yes. I'm a native Detroiter. I was born on Garfield street near Hastings went to Northern high school after going to full bridge Elementary. And I graduated from University of Michigan Bachelors and Masters. I'm a former business owner in Detroit. After graduating from college, I formed a consulting firm. Just prior to that I was the deputy director for Information Technology for the city of Detroit. During the Coleman Young administration. I also formed an investment management company, alpha Capital Management, which manage assets instead of an assets including some management for the Detroit pension fund. I'm now retired I live in being in firearms. And I'm active in several organizations around the city of Detroit. My interest in the project, my wife was one on Smith Street, a block away from where I live on Chandler Street. My interest in the project is that I know it's been the whole development area has been vacant for several years. My wife lived on Smith Street and knew most of the residents she was born on Smith Street. I moved from Hastings and Garfield to inlet Street. I moved to Chandler and was part of that community and had a paper route a young entrepreneur on Chandler street also. I'm married to a restaurant, Ervin lived on Smith Street, which was very convenient for young dating people that lived in that community. Okay, my wife went to gospel temple. I went to churches in the area. And I am still involved. I've got two grandchildren that are involved in several projects where they live now but earlier they worked with me on projects. Okay. I have a grandson who's doing some landscape projects in Detroit just started a project on Smith Street. So I view the view that the project is crucial for finally turning around this community and as a property owner and former who filed with the school and community. I have seen so many African Americans move and lose their property. And I'm proud to say that I am a property owner to have an opportunity to participate

thank you and you are in support. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. Let's go to the next participant in queue. Thank you. All right. you state your name and address for the record.

My name is Steven Harris. I study at 74 Chicago over in Detroit and Boston Edison. I am my business owner. I'm an architect and a developer in the Northeast. But more importantly, I do have a barber shop and a coffee shop and a couple other businesses in the northeast and lots of different properties. Born and raised in the north end went to Sharada brockmeyer. Went to Northern so born and raised at 8228 brush. So I've been a longtime member of this community born. I grew up on Smith part when it was Smith bar before it was the Lord's been at PARC. She was my godmother. So I have a lot of memories and I have a lot

of personal

value to bring to this neighborhood. And this right here could be a part of this. Well, I'm not a part of it in any way except just being a business owner and being a lifelong residents. I am in complete support of this project. And I'm looking forward to it come to fruition.

Thank you. All right. Just before you leave, you have that Barb is a barber shop in a coffee shop on on Johner Okay, all right. Thank you. How's it going today?

Yes, how you doing? My name is Quincy Jones. I'm a longtime resident of the North end I met 405 Chapter Street. First of all, I'm in full support of this great investment company to the north. And the Northland Community has always been a community for long term residents, where families grandmothers, uncles all lived together. As you can see, the Northland has always been welcomed there since the Great Migration people are coming up to the community having visions having ideas to keep this community going. This project is restoring that legacy that history of the Northeast. We know that there's tons of vacancy throughout the city. This project is filling those vacancies, making the land active, bringing back residents and restoring that as you can see, the North is becoming very, very diverse. And we want to continue that diversity and keep people here but we know that the visions of this development happened way before 2021 Bishop Vanden Michonne that this has been a vision since the early 2000s When Jennifer grant Holmes, Bishop flowers all came together to make this vision happen. So I'm happy to be here, and I'm in full support of this and I ask that you be in support of it, too. Thank you so much.

Thank you. All right, next person. Support Do you

have questions? Please

raise your right hand. Right. Your farm testament Cold War today's truth? Yes. Thank you.

you state your name. For the record.

Peggy Kimbrough My home is that 219 East Batoon right off John are just right in the back of the project that they're doing. My home is directly in the back. Okay. I was raised in Detroit on the west side of Detroit. Oh from Wyoming Schoolcraft area and on Eileen. I moved to the suburbs, stayed out there for 45 years. I know the difference between we're living in the suburbs and in the city. There's a big difference. When I moved back to Detroit, I've been in the home for probably 16 years now. I'm on the home. My concern is when I when I came back to Detroit, it was destroyed. I was very upset with what I saw. I've seen a difference in the progress in that city. I really love what's been doing what they're doing. To the city. In my area, I do want change. My problem is that I'm with me supporting everything that's going on in the city. I support it, but at the same time I don't want it to affect the neighborhood to where the people that's living there are not happy with that area being so high because it's right behind my house. I enjoy my lighting. I enjoy the quietness. I enjoy not having a lot of traffic back and forth. Because of the change of the city. I have noticed that the violence and a lot of things have changed. There are things that we still have to deal with, but with having more people moving in that area with the pride that that the quietness is I'm concerned, I'm concerned about the it'd be right behind my house to where I won't be because I use my alley. I can come from John art and pull up into the alley. My concern is me and being able to pull my car out and not go into a not enough space to go back and forth down the alley. That's my concern. My concern is that because it's straight down my alley is going straight to the park, which brings we do have traffic of people walking through the park. So my concern is me having some kind of privacy if there's going to be a private walk put up so that I don't have to see and deal with a lot of people that's looking directly into my yard or even having the safety that I don't have to worry about people breaking into my home or any kind of interruption to where my privacy is I put a fence up, I put a fence up and I'm listening to the $3,000 that they're saying that anyone because I am directly being affected by this because it's right in front of me. So and I like again I take care of my yard. I enjoy my quiet and privacy and the concern is that I'll be able to pull up into my driveway. I would like to see a fence a private fence there. Okay, thank you

okay, anyone asked for support anyone else's support anyone else in support that's present. It last fall anyone else can support. Thank you. Let's go to our virtual participants Anyone else in support virtually Feel? Feel Talbert. Okay, I want to say once again, press star nine by phone option plus y by MAC device plus y by keyboard. All right, let's go to Mr. Jaubert. you state your name and address for the record and let us piriformis where you went you got to come up noon

establish you're still muted.

Okay, there we go. Okay, you just muted yourself again. All right. Hold on.

Let's try this one more time, Mr. Talbert. You're still muted. He came off and went back on. All right, correct round. Let's go on next participant he unmute. Okay. Yeah, we'll come back to him. The morning Okay, there we go.

All right. Good luck. Good morning. Thank you Your honorable body. My name is Phil Tarbert. I've resided 27 This morning

Chairman.

you state your name and address for the record. Let me spiritual state swear you in

Absolutely. Philip Talbert 2720, ultimate court Detroit, Michigan.

Raise your right hand. Inform your testimony before

I do. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, one minute.

Thank you. I am a board member and representative of North N youth Improvement Council representing Mary Bennett king as well who due to a work issue could not attend. I am in full support of this project. I am a former resident of the north end. I lived at 515 East Philadelphia. I attended more elementary school. I have volunteered with the North End youth Improvement Council for over 40 years. We have worked in that community. It is a pleasure to see African American developers coming back to this city investing their dollars. I lived in that community when it was a vibrant community. And there were businesses up and down Oakland Avenue and I walked to school and that is where we need to get back to was

so I'm in total support of

this project.

Thank you very much. Dr. Brown, next participant Sunita gray Ms. Gray. He come up to me please. Record let me speak for us. Where are you in?

Okay, if you need a Gary. My address is 421 Harper Avenue, Detroit, Michigan. I'm in support initially I wasn't

for me your testimony for the board today as the truth.

Yes, thank you. Yeah, women and male. Okay, I'm in support, because the flexibility that the vendors have really listened to the concerns of the people in the neighborhood and I possibly will be interested in moving in one of those units. Right now. I'm at Milwaukee junction area like a couple of blocks over but everything that I've seen presented it looks like it's gonna be a beautiful aspect to that area. So I'm definitely in support of this project.

Thank you very much Dr. Brown.

Lisa Tucker.

Stalker, the nucleus

Miss Lisa Tucker, Can you unmute please Yeah, hello. Okay. Okay. Record.

First of all, my name is Dr. Castillo. This is not Lisa Tucker. I'm my device is broken and I am using her computer right now.

You repeat your name one more time.

Dr. Castillo

gosh, I love it. Can

you spell that? Please put in my first

name is Bo D I R A in my name is pronounced D er. And my last name is Castillo c a s t e l o lib you and I reside at 550 champions three.

Michigan. This beautiful piece where this gentleman shows

you raise your right hand do you farm your testimony for the board today? So true.

I do. Thank you. Yeah, one minute, sir.

Okay. I am a lifelong Northeastern resident. I am on the Vanguard board. I am president of the Northeast. I am vice president of the North and neighbors mark club. I am in full support of this project. I remember when the neighborhood was full and vibrant. I do like to quiet but it's a depressing quiet now. We have no neighbors you know your closest neighbor might be a half of McDonald. If you have a neighbor. Most of the newer residents, they don't live the landscape of the neighborhood. And they're just coming in and saying what they don't like and it's more of a personal issue. Instead of what is needed for the neighborhood. We're more residents, more businesses would be likely to come around and you know, it will make the neighborhood complete. Is you know, we have wildlife running rampant in our neighborhood because of all the green space. So I am in full support of this project. Thank you very much.

Thank you very much. Next person please. Director brown

II Doherty

Doherty

you come up you please. Daughtery Okay, I think he's driving director Brown. Okay.

No, it wouldn't allow me to unmute it is that the House didn't allow. It wasn't allowed participants to unmute themselves so much sir.

Can you state your name and address for the record?

My name is Evan Doherty and my address is 70 West Alexandria Street, Detroit, Michigan.

Okay, do you prime your testimony for the board today the truth? Yes, thank you.

Okay. Yeah, one minute, sir.

So I would just like to speak in support of this project. After hearing the presentations, I think it is great that we get in black developers that have reached out to the community and done the work. I'm a District Six resident, but I have been following this project. I'm also someone that was interested in possibly being a part of this development and purchasing one of these houses or townhomes that they're looking to build. So also if they could give the contact information of the community liaison or how I will go about being able to purchase one of these will be greatly appreciated, but I just want to voice my support for this project.

Thank you, Mr. Daughtery. Just give you just one word of advice though. When you attend hearings like this, please park your car I know young folks typically think they have nine life we prefer to one you're in right now. Brother.

Much appreciated.

Thank you very much. Okay.

This person Aaron Tate. Aaron, take

Mr. Tate in unmute, please. Yes, please state your name. And address for the record. Miss piriformis where are you in?

My name is Eric K. That's the 27655 Ramblewood drive in Farmington Hills. Our property on Smith Street and I'm in support of the project. Also.

you form your testimony for the board today as a truth.

Yes, I do. Thank you.

Yeah, one minute, please.

I just wanted to say I liked the project. pretty excited about it. I see the neighborhood and I see it needs development and I'm glad it's getting it and I'm totally supportive of the project. That's all

okay, sweetness. Thank you very much sir. AP Sims. Hello, can you hear me? Yes, ma'am. Can you state your name?

Patricia. My name is Patricia house. My address is 7341 Melrose. I am in support of the project, which I do live now and one of the homes and this project has become a divider in the neighborhood.

Just two things. He staked your name one more time, because we were showing Avery Sims.

Yeah, but I'm using someone's computer.

Yes, my name is Patricia house. House. Yes, great keys were in his peripheral.

Did you raise your right hand? Do you affirm your testimony for the board today? Is it true?

Yes, I do.

Thank you. You can proceed One minute please. Yes, I am

in support of the project. I just wanted to say that this project has become a divider in our neighborhood. The same people here today do not participate in a community programs to make it become a better community. They want to fight positive progress on the north end, but they need to help by joining our Northeast Safety Patrol. help clean up the community and stop dividing our neighborhoods and that's it.

Okay, thank you very much. Thank you.

That's it for support. Mr. Chairman,

that's it for support. Just one last call starting on my phone I'm supposed to Why buy Mac device plus Why buy keyboard if you are in support you are in support. Right. Gordon Ramsay anyone else? I don't let's go to opposition. anyone here in opposition? anyone here in opposition? come down please line up here

Hello ma'am, you can sit down so you ready? As soon as I swear you and you have seen? Can you all raise your hands please sir. You will find your testimonies before the board today. Our true. Thank you. Thanks. So you can come right up to him. You can have Okay.

Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to be very brief. I don't want

second please sir. State your name and address for the record. Mr.

Glover. Sorry, I live in 442 champion. Zip code for a 202 and I have lived in on Chandler Street for 38 years. And I'm not totally opposed to the project but it hasn't taken into consideration a lot of the issues that we have faced over there and now we have rodents running all around. The alleyway will be too small for any traffic to go through unless you make them all one way. Hopefully, they think about all these things. It's going to impact every time we have an event that takes place in the park. There's people parking all over the street, and is only room for one car to go down the street. So there's a lot of things to think about. Even though they said they considered all these things the other people have proof that you cannot have two cars going on any of these alleys. And right now the alleys are shut off. We can't even get out of them because of the sewer that they're working on. So these are some of the things that they need to consider. Okay. All right. Thank you

Thank you. Okay, next person. State your name and address for the record, please. Yeah, one minute.

I'm Keith booth 312 Chandler. My house has been in my family for over 70 years. I've lived there for over for the last 14 I'm right on the border line. All the bulk of this is going in on the whole block behind me across the alley. The one question about the alleyways are they going to be paved from end to end? Because there's going to be more than one alley. access through my alley behind my house and my garage and my fence. I doesn't sound like it's all going to be paved. If it is it doesn't appear to be wide enough for that. We're going to have a common dumpster in that that's going to bring on more rodents for us because folks don't handle dumpsters in the proper way that we do our US homeowners do with our core vo cans. Parking is going to be a problem. Very few houses on Chandler and surrounding areas and driveways or garages. So there's a whole lot of on street parking that goes on now and will be even more with the lack of parking in this new project that you're putting in. Thank you. I yield my time.

Thank you. Let's person can state your name and address for the record.

My name is Andrew Aaron's I live at 263 East spittoon Street. I'm right across the alley from buildings one and building three right in between and I am really eager for new development in the city and in my neighborhood. I love some of the development that's happening just two blocks away on Horton and I am in support and in fact i i can support Mr. Johnson's portion which by the way hasn't asked me for any variances. But the variances I think are an issue particularly I'll speak about parking. I believe parking is going to be a major issue. It's actually point three miles from the nearest step to the q line nought point one miles. And I think even if some of the residents are seniors, they're still gonna have cars and they're gonna have visitors there. Currently, they've already got a 33% alleviation from the zone three code because of the proximity to transportation. They're not even meeting on top of that they're not even giving half of the parking spaces at least for 202 Smith, which is more than a quarter mile from the queue line. I actively utilize the LA for my truck and trailer and I'm very concerned. I was led to believe that they were going to improve the entire alleyway but now I'm hearing that they're not so I'm very concerned about that. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, next person you seek to make a record please.

My name is Lisa Bratton and my address is four three Smith Street. I bought my home 10 years ago with my dad and prior to living in Detroit. I was in Austin, Texas and Portland, Oregon, two cities that have experienced rapid growth. This is exactly the kind of development that destroys neighborhoods 95% apartments that's too big and that hasn't been thoroughly sought out for the development of the neighborhood. We're desperate for development. We do need it. I would love to see these spaces filled in. But I would love to see it filled in appropriately scaled homeowners who are really going to be able to participate in our community.

Thank you. Okay, let's person you state your name and address for the record. Please

share. My name is Linda Boyd. I live at 445 Smith Street in Detroit.

So my house is directly across from Dolores Bennett Park. It is very busy park in the summer, little parking I mean sometimes I have to park blocks away. I do have a spot in the back in the alley. The Alley is gonna go through to Smith and then down Chandler. So there is going to be cars from the park already using it as a road. The Alley is caving in so if they're not going to do the alley, there will be a sinkhole cars are going to fall through. Um biggest is green space because a park already is overloaded. Now I have no privacy in the front. My back is going to be ruined with cars and people so I'm not in an affected area so I don't get the fence. But I'm still going to be busy because I'm two houses away from a development so yeah, I'm oppose it and I hope you reconsider. Maybe help like have them scale it down a little bit. Also though, 177 people it's going to be more like 1000 people in the neighborhood because your two bedroom you know places it's not going to be one person per unit. Alright. Thank you.

Okay, thank you very much. Next person, you state your name address for the record.

Yeah. Good morning to everyone. My name is Susan Stewart. I reside at 290 CHANDLER Street and the the pote the I oppose this project as planned. The development is directly behind my alley. So once again, I'm having an issue with the parking and people residing up and down the alley. The the density that they propose to we're going to have probably six to 800 new people in our neighborhood which is maybe two to three blocks in our neighborhood. So all these new neighbors, where will they go if there's not enough recreational space they will be parading around in our areas, bringing their dogs and ever dogs or cats bring with them as well. If they don't have enough places to park where will they park they will be parking in our areas at $35 a parking space which is what I was told. And there's not enough parking to begin with. They're going to be seeking residential parking in our areas. And believe me, if you're a senior and you're live in Detroit, you need a car or if your family your children, your grandchildren come to visit you Where will they park and of course the doors. Bennett parking has already been discussed. We have people especially on the weekends that come and just overpopulate the park by at least 800 So let's see the excessive floor area ratio. Once again, the density of this planned proposal is just too much for the area. We all want improvement in our areas. We want to see our lifelong investments because I've been there for 4443 years. So this is my retirement area. I'm looking forward to having a quiet rather peaceful area. And right now I don't foresee that with the proposal that has been presented in the north end landing. I will also say that during February of this year, we did as impacted residents because it impacts us directly. We tried to through Sheila Cockrell, we try to organize some kind of meeting through our blog club president for the North and landing which is net Roberson. And it wasn't until maybe April or May, closer to deadlines, that we even got a response. So the impacted residents were not addressed properly. There may have been part pizza parties and things of this nature. But there are excuse me, there are still many issues that affect us directly because it's behind us or in front of us. That have not been I look at this as a move for increased wealth, certain places that won't send this money out of the city anyway, it's not going to be reinvested. Thank you for your time.

All right, next person, name and address for the record. Yes, Derek staples at 556 East buffoon. Keep on kind of, you know, hearing about the q line here today. So I want to make a comparison. You know, I like the q line. I think that we can see admit that there are a number of shortcomings here with this new project. And unlike the q line, I think that we need to get ahead of those now and not go down the road of making concessions and concessions and concessions until what we're hearing here that I think's in the eye hopes are no longer feasible. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay, next person, name and address for

the record. Hello, my name is Olivia creamer and I'm at 240 CHANDLER Street. Okay. My fiancee and I bought bought her house just a few months ago with the hope of having a positive impact on the community by bringing her loyalty and passion to the neighborhood. The large four storey building looks directly into what we thought would be our private backyard. When we bought the house the plans were not disclosed. And we are worried that the high population, lack of parking and blocking of lighting will negatively impact our lives. All of the parking for the largest building is access to the alley that is directly behind our home. And we would we would at least like a masonry grain grade fence to adequately adequately block the sound caused by the development and increased traffic. They did agree to what I think is wooden fencing. I don't think that that will block what we're worried about necessarily. We're also concerned about the negative impact of our resale value down the road. Because this will no longer be viewed as a quiet and private property. We understand that the development is needed. However, I would like to see two storey houses and condos for purchase. So the community can be occupied by people who are invested in the neighborhood and plan to be present and active in our community.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, next person. Name and address for the record, please.

Michael Martin 600 East bassoon. Okay, I wanted to note a couple elements of the presentation today that seemed to be inaccurate one we were told repeatedly that all the buildings other than the Smith senior housing are two stories were shown a rendering for three storey building and the presentation. The 30% green space allotment looks pretty clear that that's including all the paved parking lots. What's shown as open and usable space, certainly not 30% of the project site. And my main concern is regarding Dolores Bennett Park. It's been acknowledged even by the supporters, the park is heavily used. Often overcapacity and the project site is permanently enclosing and boxing in the park and prohibiting any future expansion and adding 200 Plus residents that are going to need to use that same park for their own recreation as well. So I'd like to see the park prioritized as a community asset that it is incorporated into the project to expand it or by the city otherwise and really address the overburden that's on divorce print Park. Thank you. Thank you. What was

your address again, sir?

600 East buffoon.

Okay, next person please. you state your name and address for the record.

Yes, good morning if it's still morning, Joanne Warwick 264 Smith. I have some documents. I'd like to submit to you

yeah, it's worth just one minute.

Right. Okay. Okay, um, first of all, I used to teach school in this neighborhood back in the 90s. I remember lots of buildings and children's I worked at the flick school the foreign language immersion and Cultural Studies school. I moved back to Detroit in 2014. I bought my house expecting to be in an R three. area. It never occurred to me that anybody would try and build a four storey building to the west of me. I suffer severe depression. And anxiety. This has been a very ugly process, very disingenuous. Community engagement process. I was not invited to all the meetings and Miss Sheila Koco held. Vanguard had selected members from the community had them sign non disclosure agreements, call them their internal Community Cabinet. And then they sat down for years and plan this and didn't even have decency to include the people who live right here. And Mr. Quincy Jones is selling land. He's cashing in on the deal. And he had a development agreement the city didn't hold him to. So there's also been a false narrative being passed around. Oh, we're all these newbies against development. I've had the race code played against me. And it has my opposition has nothing to do with the color of the skin of the developers. It has everything to do with a non inclusive process. There is a planning study going on finally, so that there are plenty of other locations where this type of building could be built. As you can notice, most of the supporters do not live anywhere close except for Mr. Quincy Jones, who's cashing in on the deal. Please read the rest of my emails. I also don't think it was appropriate to have the present. You have so many people present and we're limited such a little bit of a time, but I know you got to, you know run your meetings and everything. I also brought pictures of how they have structures that have been opened to trespass. Their mowers mow over the garbage, they cut up broken glass, tin bottles, plastic, you know, the traffic in the alley would be tremendous. They would block my light wet by going up and going forward. I mean, do they want to build an accommodation and build me a fourth floor so they don't take away all my sunlight and make me further depressed? I mean, I came here with the idea of planning, staying the rest of my life. So please don't listen to this false narrative that we're a bunch of newbies that don't want any development. We simply wanted to be included. Nick could have done been done in the planning process. We're not the ones creating the community tension just because we're like, whoa, we got secretly Brandon. We just wanted to be included. And I truly believe that we could come up with a better plan together. And I think that this is created by by by the developers themselves they can build other things on these are three lights. Other people are building infill housing, I know there's a big infill housing plan. And so I believe this problem is of their own making. Maybe they got the wink wink from the city. I'm disappointed with city people who were very secretive with us while I know they were secretly planning and just ask yourself, would you like to have your block secretly planned on you and not be included in the meetings? And then they have the rollout meetings, and they call that community engagement and Miss Sheila Capra lonely and invited me to one and when I asked her why she didn't invite me and other people to the meetings are what she said she won't answer my question. Now, I don't mean to attack her. I'm just telling you the truth. And so and then they went to groups of people that live far away, like north and neighbors they claim on their website, their Facebook page they represent the entire north end. No, they don't. And Vanguard claims to be about community engagement, racial justice, economic equity. How is that when Mr. Keith both and some other members were denied side laps?

How was that racial

equity when you have an entire community cabinet? Of all black people? And so thank you, I mean, we can plan to gather, but this is awful, and it would ruin my health and endanger my animals. Thank you, and we can come up with something better and I thank you for your consideration. Thank you, and I'm sorry for my long emails to you but I did write them and say a lot more. Thank you so much.

Thank you very much. Okay, next person, name and address. Directly rise that timer on because

Bonita jars 416 East. Vice President lower north and black club. And as you can see, I have some passionate neighbors. you state

your name and address. But Nika Jones or Miss Jones. Okay.

Vice President lower north and black club.

Yeah, one minute please.

Okay, listen, I don't live directly adjacent to the development but I have been on the north end my entire life all 40 almost four years of it. And I want to see more development. I want to see houses built. I want more neighbors, not more investors. We've been doing that for decades in the city and it has gotten us nowhere. Neighborhoods need neighbors. I want to see more for sale housing for people to move in and live in and say that's what we want. That's what we looking for in this traffic. Oh, my God is about the BMS. I know y'all don't really actually go to this part, but I live directly across the street from it, and it's popping every day. As soon as the sun comes out in the spring until it starts to creep away in the fall. That arc is off the hook. Right now. We are engaged in some crazy Tuesday night karaoke situation, it goes to 2am There is always traffic, there are people parked I had to let my grass grow up to three feet to keep people from parking all my life. I have caution tape to keep people out of my private driveway. There is nowhere to put more cars and they're asking you to give them permission to build more housing then they're allowed to put in less parking than they're required. And we will just overfill into the recreational space that already exist. And that's what they want us to put up with. And you can see why my neighbors are upset. Even though we can hear how excited the investors are.

Thank you very much. All right, next person, name and address for the record.

My name is Tyson Gersh. I'm at 252 Slash 254 Smith Street I'm the property abutting the 202 Smith Street address that we're discussing. Okay. So I'm gonna run through this real quick. For me, this is a matter of zoning the FA R on this project proposed is our six says in our three neighborhood. This is not consistent with the intention of R three zoning, which states the regulations of the R three low density residential district are designed to promote and encourage town and terrace house development. Courts and garden apartments It is intended that this district primarily be used on local thoroughfares thereby encouraging suitable in a suitable environment for family life. Pretty sure that there's like for two units out of all 177 These are all studios in one bedrooms these are not this is not family housing. It's also inconsistent with the master plan. One of the engineers referred to the RLM. That's the low medium residential density designation and the master plan. Do you know what the definition of that is? They should have an overall density of eight to 16 dwelling units per net residential acre. This lot specifically that is like over twice that they're trying to provide less than half of the required parking on top of the brake they're already getting. They are also trying to provide a quarter of the required recreational space even by our six standards which is what this project is. They're trying to do less than half of that recreational space existing park does not give them an F AR Park bonus. It's too small. The park needs to be two acres for them to receive an AR bump so they do not have that in the park is beyond capacity. As it is. This is a matter of zoning as in people who bought bought homes, we had a reasonable expectation that the existing zoning laws will be upheld. That is a form of security for our investments. I have a four story building with a roof terrace, two windows staring into my house, a rooftop terrace staring into my house all the parking lots by the way are only accessible through the alleyway. I don't know if you guys connected that. So all of that traffic has to go through the alleyway directly behind our houses. We did a simulation last weekend. You cannot fit two cars side by side. They're going to drive on people's properties. This is the logistically this plan makes no sense.

Okay, thank you very much. All right. Let's go to our virtual participants. Julie.

Julie.

Yeah, one minute, state your name and address.

My name is Julie ranky. I live at 445 CHANDLER Street.

Beautiful keys. Were Miss julienne.

Did you raise your hand please inform your testimony for today's truth? Yes, thank you.

Excuse me, I am against this development, not so much the develop development in the neighborhood just more so against the fact that there are so many abandoned buildings and homes in our neighborhood as is that need attention. I would like to see those to be redeveloped more than brand new construction at the moment. I think the biggest thing too, next to that is the infrastructure in our neighborhood as is can barely with with held or with a stand. The residents that have moved in over the last couple of years. There's constant sinkholes, water main breaks everything. My next door neighbor has water in his basement still to this day because of a water main break from last week or last month. Sorry. So I would just I don't think that those things have been considered having all these people move into the neighborhood. These four storey buildings. I just don't think that that's been considered and the infrastructure of the neighborhood just cannot stand it.

Thank you very much. Next person,

Avery Sims.

Avery Sam, I thought every artist that was a different

name, they came under a different name.

My name is Bernice Olin Jackson. I look at 7338 male roles. And I was

Carson. Jackson, the Holy Spirit focus where misdirection do you find me?

Yes, thank you my name is Bernie Solum. Jackson a little bit 7338 Melrose. I've been on the street ever since 1969. And I was caught I was calling about let you know that I need lighting in the back is trees. I'm something I'm supporting to this program. And I need lighting in the back the trees in our back growing up back in the alley. I can't get in my head of department Cockos I'm afraid of this dark at night. Okay, thank you very much for supporting and I'm supporting this project. Okay, thank you. Thank you

very much. All right, so XO we

Yes, since dawn fish. That's my my daughter's name.

Okay, can you state your name and address for the record? Ma'am?

My name is Dawn Marie Fisher. My address is 420 champions Street.

Okay, Miss Griffo.

Would you raise your right hand? Do you affirm your testimony before the board today? Is the truth? Yes. Thank you.

You have one minute ma'am. Yes, sir. I am for and against the project. I think the project needs to be at a lower scale. The the project one will project six is directly affected directly. It's literally next to my home. Part of the I guess it's back where the bathrooms would be will be towards my daughter's bedroom, which is not a good idea. I'm going to have issues with I guess the lighting the alley access to the alley, which I am a post. I'm asking for a gate that really needs to happen because I really don't do not want traffic going through that alley. It's going to be a mess. And then also it's going to be a rodent problem because of the trash cans and where they're going to sit. So I am totally against the project. I think it needs to be at a lower scale. Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Richard Grundy. Mr.

grandey. The unmute, please state your name and address for the record

Yeah, done mute. Okay,

can you hear me? Yes.

Hi, I'm Richard Randi addresses 20932 Inkster Southfield, Michigan.

Farm your testimony for today is the truth.

Absolutely. Thank you.

Yeah. What a minute, sir. All right.

So I'm the founder of journey. We're organization focused on empowering young people to take education entrepreneurship training. We've empowered over 5000 Young people in Detroit since 2016. We facilitate about 50 paid internships, to high school and college students Detroit. I'm 1,000% for community I'm 1,000% for development. However, my mother owns one of the houses directly next to the four storey. When I first moved back to Detroit, I was taking care of my grandmother, so I would go to her senior facility before she moved in with me every day. I know that 1515 parking units, even for the visitors is not enough enough parking units. Anybody who's who has loved ones in senior communities understands that you have to visit them. So that's one thing. The other thing is for stories. I know that's been brought up by some of the residents directly next to the facility and I don't think it's been addressed. Or I would love to hear what the what the responses have been to those requests for the for the for story. I don't think anybody's against development. I think it's specifically tight and, you know, protecting their investments.

Thank you very much, sir. Thank you.

All right, the phone number in the 763763

the unmute please. you state your name and address for the record Miss beautiful Can you swear

your rings a idea to fight a myth? And I you know,

you affirm your testimony. Do you affirm your testimony before the board today is the truth? Yeah, thank you.

Okay, yeah. Women amount.

Yes. I, you know, appreciate your changes and your efforts. And the project. It sounds great. It's, it's just that location is not going to accommodate it. It's not accommodating. You know, just imagine being one of those three houses with hundreds of people all of a sudden living around there. You know, it's just not the right location. It's just not going to accommodate. It's about you know, I'm gonna tell you, no one put themselves in the position, put yourself in the position of being right there. In that location. It's, you know what it feels like it feels like all of a sudden you're in a volcano that's about to erupt. So, like I said, I think the project is great. It's just that location is not accommodating for it. I think the investment you know, and your investment should be more on single family homes or even duplexes or whatever, you know, that would work much better. Just it's just going to be a chaos and disaster. And that's not what you're looking for. That's all I have to say. I really opposing to.

Okay, well, thank you very much. Today ZM Jay Z. you state your name and address for the record. You know, you're on mute. Your device is muted. Zoom is unmuted Zoom. Zoom is unmuted but your device is muted. We cannot hear you

still cannot hear you.

You're given lip service right now. Can you call in? Thank you very much. Let's go to the next person director Brown, Michael and Mr. Herman. Yes. Just for the record. Miss beautiful was were you in?

Yes, good morning. I on the property at 320 Horton which is about a block away from the proposed development.

Can you hear me? Okay, are you okay, great.

So from what I heard from the the applicant is justifying the variance.

You had to sworn in first

place. Do you find the testimony for the board today? It's

true. Yes, I do. Thank you. Okay, so what I heard from the applicant, he was justifying the variances for two primary reasons. One, the elderly housing component. So my first question is, are there any deed restrictions on the land to make sure that the elderly stay there that this isn't going to be a bait and switch where they're saying this today? And then in three years, it switches and as a board members, you should know that answer? I don't know it. I've asked and no one's ever given me that response, but that's very critical. If they're asking for a variance. The other thing that they're saying for the reason for the variance is economic feasibility. Well, I'm a developer also. And what that means that means profit. So this out estate developer wants to make more profit and take those profits out of stick. So if you approve this, that's okay. I just want to make sure you understand what you're approving. You're approving profits being made in this neighborhood going out of state. And the third thing I want to point is this could easily be solved if they just stayed within the the zoning code. How could you do that? Reduce density, if you reduce the density, you won't need as much parking and I don't know what the exact number of that is, but it's certainly could be calculated. So again, you have a choice as a board and you you better hopes or I hope there's some type of deed restriction on the elderly,

like very much. All right, Director Brian,

Michael Willard,

Mr. Willer Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. He said your record was pure force. Were you in?

I am at 3003 maple wood Royal Oak, Michigan. 48073.

Raise your right hand. Do you farm your testimony for the board today as a truth?

Yes, I do. Y'all I vehemently oppose this development. I volunteer at the Michigan Urban Farming Initiative, that brush and cluster and what I believe what they're trying to do. I'm not against any development. I've been volunteering at this organization, nonprofit organization for eight years and I've seen it change over the past eight years, which is fine. But for this mass density housing, it does not fit the residential neighborhood where I reside and Royal Oak. They put another senior we I come into a neighborhood that has multifamily housing duplexes. Condos, etc. They actually just put a senior housing project close my house in a couple years ago, but the piece of land that they put it on was about five times the size what's proposed in this, this development in the north end, I think it's gonna cause a lot of issues with the high density and there should be more green space in the north end in this neighborhood. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you. All right, Director Brown, and the other participants. That's it. That's it. Thank you very much. All right. At this point in time, I will allow the petitioner come back and address some of the concerns heard from the community. He didn't call back in now. I'm not sure what was going to address some of the concerns from the community

Okay,

you want to address some of the concerns you heard from some the community participants here? I'm not sure if you want to, uh, you have some representative to do it for you.

Um, I think we can go through the perhaps the technical issues. I think I can speak from an overview standpoint. Rodents were one of the things that were mentioned. I think, you know, a van is a world class property manager. So beyond just the development and ownership of the units, there is a very significant management component, very highly regarded. We work in extreme urban communities most many of our properties and urban communities. Rodents are not an issue. So that is a management component there. That's not a problem. That's going to be a problem here in the city of Detroit.

Okay, there was some discussion around parking have a hard deadline as well. I mean, I know you guys get the presentation, but you may want to reiterate some of that concern. Some of the ways you're gonna alleviate that. I'm not sure if it's extra parking lot or whatnot, but and also addressed. I heard concerns regarding the alleyway and the use through alleyway. So if you guys can address that as well.

Yes, the alley is a technical issue. So I think we'll speak directly to that. Yeah.

So starting with with the alley, the extent of the alley that's being repaired is in response to the requirements from city engineering. So where over 50% of the area adjacent to the alley is being being impacted. There, the full Alley is being restored, so not in the first case that we're reviewing. In the first case, we're impacting less than 50% of the alley, which is why the area directly adjacent to the property. So extent of the alley that's being restored, is indirect response to city engineering directive on how we should manage that. You know, we don't the alleys not anticipated as a thoroughfare it's 20 feet in width, which is a standard alley with 18 to 20 feet. It's not intended for two way traffic all the time, just like any of our our alleys in the city of Detroit. If you have a trash truck and a car coming down, you know, you slow and you yield. And there is enough space for two vehicles to pass without having to exit the alley. But but you're not using this as a new roadway. And I think that really meets the intent of what a lot of the residents actually were communicating is that they don't want the alley to be a new thoroughfare behind their residence. And so I think it's important to note it's standard alley with its city of Detroit right of way still, and it's meeting the city. of Detroit right of way requirements. Of course.

Okay, question from Boardman Watson

concerning this alleyway. Your proposal is to repair as opposed to redoing the entire alley servicing your

so for the case at hand which is building one the alleys being restored for the extent of the property, the area directly adjacent to the property.

She, like director Ron stepped out for a second. Or Watson. Me mean, we're not. We have a question. Oh.

Okay.

So I know we're doing 202 right now. Yeah, but considering overall project in the same related alley, right? So you're gonna have parking and everything. You've got a building on appointment, you got parking and extending the left of the alley. And it would appear we don't have enough as testimony. We don't have enough width to have two way traffic. And the proposal is not to repair or repave that whole alleyway but just the immediately in in rear of 202. Is that what you just said we're doing?

In the case of 202? That's correct,

was considered an overall project.

So there yeah, there are multiple alleys being impacted. The one adjacent to 202 it's the area directly adjacent.

So considering 202 There is no more of your buildings concerning this one alley other than what's behind 202.

There no building four I think it is is also is also adjacent to this same alley, but on the opposite end, and a much smaller impact. So okay, thank you.

All right. Remember that?

Yes. What was interesting and hearing the comments is, I thought they said that all the traffic must go through the alley to get to the parking spaces for your development, is that

that is correct. Yes. And and so following city of Detroit, city engineering division requirements, the project would have a maintenance indemnification which makes this development responsible for maintenance of the and liability within the alley. Which is which is the standard process that is in place for the city of

Detroit. So the 20202

mystery that's

Is this a it's not a house it's a part of our entire project apartment. Like a fort.

Smith Street is senior housing is the senior housing building. Yes,

I guess what is confusing me is that you're you're saying that all the traffic must go through the alley to get to this tool to

I not through meaning from one end to the other, just through meaning? That's the primary. Yeah, it's on the corner. So that's the primary

so there's our ally to get there. No. They

would only drive from the corner

John R. And Smith. Okay. Let's move on from the ether because the former at&t parking lot and they will come in through the alley. Also join us on demand.

Okay, any additional questions from the board? I believe Okay, for remember more.

We have other questions. Other questions?

Now, this is time to get all your questions out.

Well, I'm curious about how you contact the people that are really responsible to home owners, the people that have been there for years and I understand that they haven't they were not included or inclusive of your your meetings you had.

Yeah, I will speak to that. I mean, there have been various means of outreach. From you know, door knocking going door to door from the meetings that have been held directly in the neighborhood. From the notices for all the different public hearings that have been held. My partner and I would fly to Detroit. You know, he's in California. I'm in Maryland. We'd fly to Detroit and we'd meet with just about anyone, so everyone had our phone numbers, they had our emails. So beyond the organized effort to notify people is our grassroots efforts, so to speak, where we would meet with people in coffee shops, where there's two people, five people 10 people, in addition to the organized effort that was led by both Vanguard and Sheila carpro. So we've, you know, we know a lot of the people, some of the people who came here today to oppose were involved in our planning process. So some of the things that you've seen, the green space and some of the others are as a result of direct engagement with some of the opposition here. SARP project has actually been made better by the engagement with many of the people who are still in opposition to the project. The advent of for sale housing. There a lot of things here that we did not necessarily put on the table. Initially, there's a crowdfunding initiative. People talk about the dollars that went out of state dollars. Many of those will stay right in the north and people will be allowed to invest directly. With us. There's the $100,000 small business on excetera. So for there to be any perception that this is profit and a lack of investment within the community. You know, I totally disagree that as our list of community benefits, again, are an outgrowth of direct community engagement. That's not a list that we necessarily started with. Those came as a result of meetings and interactions with the people.

I want one more now. The $35 assessment fee I think you said for parking. Yes, that's for everybody. That's for everybody understood. The young lady said that she would have to park blocks away to get into the sea. That's what I'm not clear on I've never lived in apartments. I don't know. $35 for somebody parked that does not entitle or can park or have to fight to park. I just Well,

those. I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you. The $35 are for the residents of the developed they have parking in the development so those people will not be parking on the street. They will have parking within the project.

Those are the people who live in an apartment complex that they're proposing to build

that first one are the All seven ones, all of them, all of us,

everyone away all of the units have parking. They all have parking and it's all behind the units.

Is there a sign are their assigned parking spaces is that

they will not be assigned the parking spaces. General parking for the buildings. We have a parking management plan again where we are short in certain buildings where people can park in an adjacent building. And there again there are buildings where we do have an abundance. We have an overage of parking at some of the buildings because of the way it's spread. Out. And all of the different sites. You know, we have a surplus in certain areas and we have a deficit, obviously, in a couple of buildings, but it's community parking plan.

All right, any additional questions? From the board? Board Chairman.

Good morning. Can you elaborate on the crowdfunding that you're speaking of like how does that program work?

Yes, the crowdfunding initiative will allow anyone who is a resident of the North end to invest directly within the project. We, again that was an outgrowth of the concerns that there was a lack of investment. We it's somewhat unprecedented. It's not typical for developers to do that. You know, we have gone through the lifts, of getting our legal team to look at you know, the legal requirements that are necessary to do that. So to ensure that it was possible and feasible. It is and it's something that we've offered and publicized for the last two to three years. As part of our project.

How does the residents get involved? Will

it'll be direct solicitation will Information wants the funds established, will make the information available on our website. So there will be direct line of communication and means for the public for not just the general public, but for those within the north end to participate. Thank you.

Thank you. We're not

yes. So two questions, one for your parking. Is it going to be gated and they'll have a key card to get in? Because my concern is that if you just have to charge people $35 And you don't have enough parking, well what people who didn't pay actually take the parking spaces of the people who did pay.

Yes, he will have to gates to access the parking. Okay. And

then my second question is in terms of your community, again, engagement around the surrounding community. What were those What did those notices look like? Were they a combination of door? A mailing that you did, did you borrow list to mail to the PRS

email, phone? Calls and all of the above Vanguard, CDC has been in the neighborhood obviously, for decades. They have a list you know, extensive list as as far as residents in the neighborhood. We left things on doors they people walk door to door canvass residents directly by going door to door. We engaged with different block clubs, lower north in block Club, which, you know, was the main block club that we engage with, again, participated in the restructure of the entire development plan. So all of those things that you saw in the plan that I put forward, initially versus where we ended up. Those were from direct input from the Lord North End block club as well as others we've met series of meetings throughout the summer of 2021. to totally revamp the development program,

but my concern is just you know, is it that the community members in the immediate area if they did not get the notice, or they could not attend the event, which are two very different things. So, some,

right, and I mean, you know, someone just said not invited, and we've had 100 conversations with the comment that just came,

we're not gonna we're not gonna do the back and forth right now.

So we've, we,

yeah, so people have been taught to it's just you get to a point where you have disagreement and agreement. We're very frank and candid as far as the things that we could do, and allow the project to continue to be feasible. And those answers weren't always what people wanted to hear a certain group segment of opposition had very substantive changes that we embraced and were able to make because they did not make the project unfeasible. The addition of the for sale housing, for instance, took us almost a year of legal work to structure around that because we have 15,000 units across the country. Not one of them is a For Sale component, but legally, because of the way our fun in order to have a For Sale product. There's a lot of liability that can come back because of homeowners versus rental. But we did all the legal work to do that to allow the development of eight for sale houses in a 16,000 unit portfolio. So we have made exhaustive efforts to address the concerns that have come forward from the community and we stand on that and we stand on our record of being able to do that across the country.

Well, I thought one of the community members had mentioned something about I thought she said she wishes that there was more housing or condominiums or something. And I do remember you saying that there are for sale homes and a certain percentage of those homes would be affordable. And then the other percentage, is it market rate.

They're all affordable. The intent is deliver all of the homes.

Okay. Okay, from Roberts, I'd like to make a motion. Okay. Not a motion.

We're only discussing this with trying to get more information out of Petitioner here that we got to have a discussion amongst ourselves and then the motion needs to be made. Making sure all the board members are okay with the questions. And statements coming in from the petitioner. Yep. You've seen a little bit uneasy there. We're not. Yeah, some of the questions to ask the petitioner. I do have another question. You stated there's gonna be eight eight townhomes. For sale at $150,000 or less. I believe that was one of the statements or part of your presentation. Is that what you're referring to? Yes.

Let me turn from like, I was raising that point because one of the people from the community they seem to think that there was no for sale housing. Okay. She, I don't know. It just seems like she thought maybe it was all

they want more. But obviously, you know, there's a limit to what we can do. And the fact that we don't do it anywhere else in the country of 15,000 I think speaks volumes. To the fact that we're we've taken exhaustive effort to deliver it to here in whatever capacity that we were able to do so. So we think we've met gone a long way to try to meet that concern of the lack of foresail housing as part of our project.

Okay. Having additional question what city departments you all were approved by so far?

You say which ones are we?

Okay, but I thought some brownfield agreements.

We have a Brownfield, we've every approved brownfield TIF we have an approved pa 210. We announced by city council yes city council has approved the neighborhood enterprise zone they approved the Brownfield. They have approved the PA 210 So all of those by unanimous vote okay. And then fed the planning and development design review. We've obviously gone through PE DC those were all public hearings, I think stated there's something like 15 public hearings where we've gone through

approvals for all of those and then you're approved by building a safe which led you here because of the conditions. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. Any further questions for the petitioner from from the board?

Mr. Over parking, I want to go back to that because what I also heard from the community is their concern about the traffic but not only to traffic, the parking, I was over there yesterday and saw the event at the park, whatever they were doing at the park and so I'm wondering if if there is some type of incentive or when you're telling people okay, you cannot park here because there's not enough space. We instead have this other lot in park into is that also going to be a gated lot or open

or they'll have access a residents will have access to those? Yes.

Okay. They'll just have to park further away which is why the building next do not have to okay, right bark in the building next to the bill. How many spaces does that a lot for?

I mean, our overage versus what we are because you know that number.

So, it varies. We have seven project sites in total. So I think it's building three that has the largest surplus and that's six or eight parking spaces. It's it's in the presentation although I don't have the number. There's only eight parking additions at that site specifically.

So you have 177 units. And you're saying that you have a parking space that's an extra parking space, basically that people can go to in that extra parking space. Only has eight spaces.

Oh no, no, it's in like 59 Yeah spaces. The total parking lot is 59 spaces.

So 59 spaces is a lot it for that particular building. How much parking is a lot at four building three or whatever building that is. So what I'm trying to find out is it's a surplus of about what it is things a search was for that particular lot that you're calling the over parking lot is only eight spaces. Six or eight spaces on average.

So to clarify, it's not a specific independent lot. This surplus spaces are in development sites across the the community, so

each parking area will have extra parking spaces,

correct? Well, each each parking area is open for parking. Some of them that are before you for variance have a deficit. Some of them have a surplus. I think it's two that have a deficit and two that have a surplus, and then two or three that are even

Alright, I want to remind you guys where it is 202 Smith Street, this is a 35 unit, SR building. I believe we're 15 spaces provided. So that's where we're at with this one here.

And I just want to address the question very specifically, across the site. There are 100 and I'm sorry,

what's this? Yeah, I got I just want to take this one by one by one. So this is what it was delivered to us. So

so just to the point across the community, there are 135 requested parking spots and the development is providing 130 across the community. And so if you cannot park if you do not have access to one or the one lot is full, you can drive to the adjacent and parking it. They are all secure and only available to residents of the North End landing community and they are gated and secure, as unfortunately is a necessity and

just repeat that one more time. It's 130 parking spots across the development that's correct. Okay. 130. All right. Hopefully this close out our discussions with the petitioner was kind of exhausted right now. Everybody got their information, enough to make a decision here on this 35 units, SR complex with fitting spaces provided Yes sir. Okay, let's go into discussion and emotions always thinkers.

Want to say that I was contacted by the couple of the people working on this project. So I just wanted to put that out there was in listening mode only. But I was contacted to kind of to hear from them and hear them explain what they were proposing.

Okay, schedule breaks,

or more.

You know, I have my reservations about all this. I mean, it was a wonderful presentation. And I thought it was very informative. But after listening to the community and listening to people I have my druthers I'm concerned about the homeowners that I've been there forever. And big businesses has a habit of ignoring people that have been in places forever and ever and they want to do what they want to do. I have concerns about them not being contacted. And I have the seniors there's a problem with the seniors and parking for the seniors and I'm assuming myself and I don't feel like right now I'm looking for a parking space. The Alley is my issue. So they didn't take a lot into consideration. And that's not my little drama.

I think when Roberts Yeah, I think actually their their public engagement has been significant. Understand that it's also not required by this board. Right. We've we've worked that during our our education process a few weeks ago. But you know, given that and I understand there's there's a potential that some of the community wasn't engaged enough for properly but it certainly seems that there was significant engagement. When you have a you know, a developer that is not required to necessarily to do community engagement. And then they not only do it but they do it and they voluntarily agree to you know, some at the at the community's request. They agree to you know, for sale to build some for sale units. They agreed to increase their green space. They agreed to buy the community to put in senior housing. The parking situation, if I'm allowed to make a motion or add onto a motion, as far as a parking situation goes either I would put a condition on that they are not allowed to charge for the parking. It has been my experience in my neighborhood that when developers charged for parking, there's a certain percentage of those people that aren't going to pay and they wind up parking on the street. So I would, I would like to see a condition put on it. There's no charging for for the parking. They they've done the crowd, crowdfunding the small business that $3,000 For people for their to upgrade their facades on their residential units. I mean, I think I think that's a tremendous amount of engagement. And attendant, you know, a tremendous amount of give back to the community from a developer. So overall, I'm I'm in favor of granting this petitioners request,

and we're discussing points

where I have the, for me the stumbling block is the parking requirements. And I would be in favor with this proposal. As a condition, that additional parking by the petitioner be provided. We have to alleviate one of the major concerns of community as was demonstrated. We try to get some kind of parking arrangement to suit everyone.

Any other discussion points? All right, I will state that I would be in support of this project here to minority on I know dealings with minor on architects, minority owned developers. This has been a five year endeavor, starting in 2018. The bill initially was 182 units, and they condensed it down to 177. What they're missing is 100. Well, they're missing this 30 Something parking spaces they're providing 130 parking spots for 177 years. They engaged in community over a five year timeline what two year timeline was a three year now I think they started in 2021 or something with 20 engagements it looks like they've been approved by city council, the Brownfield Development Authority receiving a TIF funding. Planning development and building a safety. I understand the parking issues. It's not the first time we've come across this conversation when developers developing in neighborhoods. We've got the same problem in Woodbridge not to say that we want to bring our problem to this community. But we've we've had those we've addressed these types of occurrence nurses concerns before this is nothing new. I will be in favor of actually approving this project. I did also which they didn't have to do. The eight additional townhomes for sale at $150,000 that for sale component to this was pretty encouraging. On top of that $200,000 For the small business in the north end to support that. I'm in support of this project here and this particular one is 35 units. With 1415 parking spaces provided we have to address the other ones throughout the rest of the day. Once again, this project here at tool to smell Street is a 35 unit apartment complex for senior citizens with 15 parking spaces provided I will accept the motion.

I'd like to make a motion that we approve case number 2923202 Smith Street because they are consistent with the Master Plan they've met the requirements of general acceptance 50 dash four dash 121 So we're looking at a variance for parking deficient recreational space screening, front setback and floor area ratio. I would like to put a condition that the petitioner is not allowed to charge for parking.

Okay, it's a motion on floor is there a second? Is there a second to the motion? I'll ask time was there a second to the motion? I will second that motion was put it to vote

no he added to condition already we're voting on separate we'll get we've already started.

We will put the vote. Okay. Dr. Brown Okay.

All right. All in favor of supporting this project at 202 Smith Street. 35 units 15 spaces provided. say aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays?

Roll call? Okay. Well, Mr. Chairman.

Well, Mr. Roberts, I will remember more.

No. Well,

I'm not I will remember Watson. Hey Jeffersontown. Tom. Mr. Chairman, you have four Yes. To Nose The motion carries three domestication. Mr. Chairman, procedural matter because of the time we are Miss appear for is going to read all of the cases in and show the pictures. Then the petitioner is going to come up and show his presentation

and after that abbreviated

accurately abbreviated because he already has a presentation itself. Additionally, we're going to take a vote on each case separate. All right, so we've got a short sentence in time. Additionally, when petitioners come up to speak and identify yourself, please identify the address that you're speaking to, so that the board knows what to address if you're speaking to multiple, identify those multiple addresses if you're speaking to one identify that Alright, so Mr. Chairman, we will now go to you have to be acknowledged not not in the middle of nowhere now, ma'am. Easy peasy a case 30 Dash 23. Building five. The petitioners the same for all of these locations 309313319 and 331. But between John Armbrust and our three district Ronald McDonald request dimensional variances for 10 unit or a 10 unit proposed multi family development. The subject site is within our three low density residential district. BCA case number 31. That's 23 buildings six, location to Nana 303307313319 and three to five Smith and 7719 Brush between brush and John are I did that when I just did that. I'm reading all of Ronald McDonald requests multiple dimensional variances for the proposed development construction of a two family two up to two multifamily buildings to provide six units building three A and 10 units building three b respectively, for a total of 16 multifamily units and an RS three zoning district. BCA case 3233 buildings six the location is 404 through 410 CHANDLER between brush and John r and n are three low density residential district. Ronald McDonald request variances for 10 unit proposed multifamily development within our three low density residential district. PCA case 33 das 23. The location is 203259276271277 Smith between brush and John r and n are three low density residential district. Ronald McDonald request dimensional variances for a 10 unit proposed multifamily development within an OD three low density residential district. PCA case 34 Dash 23 buildings seven a and seven B, the location is 501511519 by 25529 by 35545555 and 561 is a spittoon between jhana and brush there are three low density residential district. Ronald McDonald requests dimensional variances for the development of two buildings seven and seven a and seven B with seven a containing 14 multiple family units and seven B containing 10 family units and an R three low density residential district. PCA case 3523 location 282290296302306312 Smith, between John R and brush and our three density our three dense district low density residential Ronald McDonald request dimensional variances for the development of a 10 unit multifamily development and in our three zoning district we will now hear from inspector Sheriff boy not just I got them all and

I'll start with

I don't just go straight to

oh no, no, you have to be

here, right. Go ahead. Yeah.

All right. So we're on pace 30 Dash 23. Again, the properties are 309 to 331 Batoon. We're hearing this case because the Board shall be authorized to hear dimensional various requests for matters that are beyond the 10% administrative adjustments for various minimum setbacks. The deficiencies for this case are deficient front yard setback, deficient recreational space efficient rear setback, and trash enclosure that cannot swing into the alley that needs a DTE clearance requirements. Here in this case on the section 54 131 Six permitted dimensional variances and 54 121 the approval criteria here in this case under the legal description attached our attorney will assess ownership for all the cases when it comes back up. This property has no previous history before the board this case was heard by was reviewed by BCS plan review and their comments were to please provide a copy of the BCA grant for deficient front setback 20 feet required to be provided 10 feet deficient recorded with the Wayne County Register of Deeds and petitioners before the board for those various two dimensional variances, right setback, recreational space rear setback and the trash enclosure that can't swing into the alley.

These properties are located on Batoon between brush and John R is a view of the vacant land and is one phone number closer to brush. Long view looking down the frontage of the subject property properties on the left of the screen. This is Black opposite. I'm sorry that is the same side we're looking to the north west down zone. This is block opposite of subject property

the vacant land slightly for the development this is block opposite their residential properties directly across the street. Long view looking down the subject site looking towards a brush Street. Looking to the rear of that site again I'm on the front edge of brush but then on the street. Again, this is a site slated for the 10 unit development looking towards brush. This is Black opposite residential property and a lot of you looking down but don't looking to the west. And this is the corner of brushin but don't just fronted off of brush but the property's address our bitone This is a view from brush looking down with them. This is that park that was spoke up and it's located on brush block opposite on a brush and a view of the subject property again located on Batoon at the corner of brush. I am now going to case 31 Dash 23 and the properties again are between 299 through 325 Smith and 7719 brush. The cases are before the board for deficient front setback for buildings for both buildings because there are two buildings building three A and building three V they both building three A has 10 units and three B and it was total of 16 units building a has six. Building B has 10 there before the board for deficient front setback for both buildings and deficient recreational space for both buildings and deficient side setback for building three b We're hearing this case under Section 54 131 Six permitted dimensional variances and 54 121 approval criteria. This property has no history before the board the BC Site Plan Review letter dated January 30 2023. stated that the current use of the above address is vacant land approximately 25,658 square feet. The proposed development consists of building three a two storey 4650 square foot building six unit three V is a two storey 8207 square foot 10 unit multifamily building. project areas zone are three under Section 5874 for multifamily dwellings with fewer than 50% of the units in the structure. Being efficiency units are permitted by right in our three district plus a special land use hearing is not however under Section 53 113 applicability, as more than 12 multifamily dwelling units are being proposed 16 are being proposed site plan review is required prior to issuance of a building permit under Section 5014 34 household living as the multifamily development is located within a half mile of book of bus rapid transit line which is what we're BC can reduce off street parking requirements for the proposed 16 unit dwelling to zero point 75 parking space 20 off street parking spaces including two ADA accessible spaces are being proposed. And this building has no deficiencies. Following variances are needed by the BCA prior to issuance of permits for building three a deficient front yard setback 20 feet required 11 feet five inches provided eight feet seven inches deficient front yard setback efficient recreational space 99 990 square feet required in a provided building three beat efficient front yard setback. 20 feet are required. 11 feet five inches are provided. Eight feet seven inches efficient front setback, efficient side yard setback 12 feet three inches are required. 10 point 43 inches provided one foot 77 inches is deficient besides setback, efficient recreational space for this building 99 990 square feet required now provided

which

again these properties are located on Smith and the corner of brush 7719 Brush

31 Yes

this is a view of the vacant land slated for two buildings three A and three b one has six units one has 10 units long view looking down Smith. Again, this is Smith Street at corner brush also which close the address of 7719 brush. Long view looking towards brush subject sides to the left on the screen. A long view of the vacant land against later for the two buildings three A and three B.

Vacant land against I'm looking down Smith looking to the West. This is a view of the subject property on this home is part of the development NEC plays a vicious but this one is mostly vacant land on that side. We are on case 33 Dash 23 those properties at 203 through 277 Smith again to you heard 202 which was the first case this has landed directly across the street from that we are hearing this case today because of deficient front setback maximum floor area ratio deficient parking and efficient side yard setback for a 10 unit multifamily development. This case went through Plan Review and exon June 26 stated please provide a copy of the BCA grant recording the Wayne County Register of Deeds was various for deficient front setback, maximum floor area ratio, efficient parking and efficient side yard setback.

Visual front yard setback 20 feet required eight feet provided 12 feet deficient front yard. Efficient parking 58 parking spaces required 49 are provided efficient side setback 14.2 feet required. 8.2 feet provided six feet efficient excessive floor area ratio and efficient recreational space

oh you know what? No. Yeah. All right. Let's just read well

you know, I just read there.

coming up in a share

all right again, this is 203 through 277. Smith again is directly across the street from the senior living center. It's on the corner of Smith and John our street. This is a very corner of John R M. And Smith Street. view looking up towards John our streets subject sides to the right on the screen. This is the block opposite which is 202 Smith. Long view looking down Smith Street looking to the east subject size to the left on the screen.

frontage of that subject property of view from the subject property looking towards John R.

This is a long view looking down the subject property looking down Smith Street. And again frontage of the subject property closer to John our street. That's getting towards the east end of the site. And again, this is a long view of the subject property. I'm looking towards John R Street. This is Black opposite. And I found out that as a private garden for the neighbor whose house that goes to all right now go back to very to school. These are properties that 404 through 14 Shala, which is building six petitioners before the war for a 10 unit multifamily dwelling development. They are here for the fishing rear yard setback, the fishing recreational space, efficient side yard setback and it's crashing trash enclosure that can't swing to the alley and the residential setback for parking landscape and adjacent from residential. Here in this case under Section 54 131 permitted dimensional variances and 54 121 the approval criteria. This one again was heard by the was was reviewed by the plan review of DC on June 26. And their letter stated please provide a copy of the board of zoning appeals grant for deficient rear yard setback recorded with Wayne County Register of Deeds with variances of rear yard setback and efficient recreational space and basically all those variances that I read before but their report didn't actually show those. The following variances are needed from the BCA prior to issuance of a building permit building six has deficient rear yard setback 30 feet and part 15 feet provided 15 feet deficient rear yard setback deficient recreational space ratio deficient side yard setback, residential setback for parking trash enclosure and landscaping adjacent residential. Again these properties are located on Chandler to corner of Chandler and brush

this is a view of the subject property slated for the chin unit development at the corner of Chandler and brush street view looking down brush looking to the south. Again if you have the last lady for the 10 unit and closest residential property to the east you're looking down Chandler at the corner of brush. Looking down the frontage of the subject property down Chandler looking to the east black opposite corner of brush and challenge residential property. Again, have you looking at the last layer for the 10 unit looking to the south

this is Black opposite residential properties. subject property looking towards brush Street and the closest residential property immediately adjacent to the site on the east side

and a view looking down channel looking towards brushstroke 34 Dash 23 which properties at 501 through 561. A split zone. This is for two buildings building seven a and seven B containing 14 multifamily units for seven eight and 10 units for seven b We're hearing this case because the Board shall be authorized to hear dimensional various requests for matters that are beyond the billing departments 10% administrative adjustments were various of minimum setbacks for our building seven eight which is 17 units they are deficient front setback, building seven V which is 10 units. They're also deficient front setback. Building seven a and seven b both have deficient recreational space. Here in this case under Section 54 131 permitted dimensional variances and 54 121 the approval criteria. The BC site plan review which was dated June 23 2023. states the current legal uses of 501 519-520-5529 535-540-5555 and 561 East Baton is vacant land the current legal use of 511 East Batoon is a barbershop with an with upper dwelling unit under permit 58368 which was issued August 8 1955. To development shall consist of two buildings seven a and seven B was seven eight containing 14 multiple family units and seven V containing 10 multifamily units. All of the parcels are zoned R three the proposed use of multifamily dwellings is permitted by writing our three zoning district, however, is more than 12 units are being constructed, which is 24 units under Section 54 5014 113. Site Plan Review is required prior to issuance of building permits under Section 5014 34 household living as a development is within a half mile of bus route which is West Grand Boulevard 18 off street parking spaces are required 22 are proposed included two handicap spaces thus fulfills the requirement. After reviewing the site plans they met the requirements of the ordinance and they were approved with the following conditions for seven building seven A which is 14 units deficient front yards 20 feet required 13 feet proposed seven feet deficient. recreational space 1425 square feet are required none proposed. Building seven be front yard required. 20 feet proposed 12 feet eight inches 12 feet I'm sorry, eight feet deficient and recreational space 985 square feet required none provide and these properties are located on East Potomac properties at 501 through 561.

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Okay, so this is all started about is the view of the vacant land which starts the project it's gonna have Beaubien in the zone and it's gonna go towards the east down but then this is a view of that park at the corner of Bolivian and Fatone. Again, this is the start of the project 501 For those of you looking down the phone this building it was a barbershop with the upper living. This is a long view of the site to the left on the screen looking down but don't look into the East. There's a church directly across the street on this corner of brush and but then looking to the west down but on the view looking down brush street looking to the north. In the park directly across the street on Batoon and brush. This is the east side of the property. I'm sorry, the west side of the property at the corner of Batoon and brush long view looking down in front of the property. Long view looking down rush looking towards West Grand Boulevard or East Grand Boulevard and a long view looking down brush I'm sorry but those street okay 35 Dash 23 a property's located at two through 312 Smith Street building for that is a proposal for a 10 unit multifamily development. They are before the board for deficient front setback deficient recreational space and the Kratt trash enclosure. Here ended under Section 54 131 Six permitted to admission variances and 54 121 the approval criteria. These cases have no history for the board. This was under VCs plan review and their comments on June 26 stated please provide a copy of your BCA grant for deficient front yard setback. 20 feet required 15 feet provided five feet efficient and efficient recreational space and a trash enclosure Yanis is on Smith Street between brush and John R Street

is a view of the subject property again this is on Smith Street. On the south side of Smith Smith Street view looking down Smith Street looking towards brush street

subject site is to the right on the screen. The frontage of the subject property located on Smith Street

Longview looking down Smith Street looking to the west. Long view of the vacant land slated for the 10 unit multifamily development

this is Black opposite and that results visuals. So we went through the follows what are the deficiencies as a petitioner comes up, you're going to address him and he's going to speak towards the deficiencies for each of the subject properties. Although we kind of broke them into everything at the last hearing but you will make a motion separate for each case. And then we'll heal community again

and hopefully be done.

Okay, so

this is the right one.

Yes. Yes

in the interest of time, I will try and make our comments brief. What you see before you is the site on the corner of this candle one slide before

go 52 Two Yes. 52 is these 5151 5051

That one? Yes sir. That's the beginning.

Yes. So on this side, we have the corner of Smith and brush. This is buildings three A and three b There's one site with two buildings on that site is in need of both front and side setbacks. Those again were designed around contextual setbacks. So those are in accordance with the expectation in the north end neighborhood, as well as in alignment with buildings on that street and on that corner. Specifically, the recreational space is an additional needed variance. And again, our approach to recreational recreational space has been discussed previously, in which we are using the community based approach for that recreational space with the significant amount of green space that has been delivered next slide. On those slides, you will find photos of the follow on vacant property there. I do want to make a point of clarifications. The entire block behind buildings, two and three and three A and three B. All of the entire alley will be resurface behind this block. So that entire block from John our toothbrush will be fully resurfaced and rebuilt. So that's a brand new alley behind that entire geography. Again, you see a photo of that alley in the top left hand corner, that is impassable and undriveable. You'll also as part of this project be looking at the majority of new sidewalks as well. As a street and curb investments as well onto the actual physical structure. On both three a next slide is elevations for three a again you will notice a very traditional structure that is two storeys in height designed to be absolutely compliant with expectation. It is designed to look and feel like a small home it to fit very squarely within the expectation and design motif for the geography. Next slide on building to be you see that same materiality apply to cost again to story structure with Pete Roos, but also bringing in some interests with the flat roofs as well for texture and design motif. And lastly, on this site, you'll see the full site plan again with Smith Street and breath street corner being activated by the building there you'll also see passageway between the two buildings, participating in traffic and then you also see the parking lot which is off of the alley, but also obstructed from sightlines by the buildings themselves. So as you walk it creates a walkable environment that is unobstructed by the cars.

This is the 16th

unit. So the Spanish words right

so the buildings people want to get

to yes

two buildings 110 one six, yes. A total of 16 or 20 parking spaces provided?

That's correct. I'm building three. Site three

for this one, yes. Okay.

So we got two buildings we're calling

two buildings here. 110 166 21 he parking spaces provided for this one,

and we're calling this building three A.

Mr. Jones? Yes.

We're calling this building three a, three A and three

B and three B thankfully, a and three be site number three has two buildings on it. For

game three being okay. Are you completing a presentation? Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Do we I don't think we need anything from PC anymore. Are we ready? Let's go directly to 54 121 has to learn right let's start with boredom not first two questions

we're gonna do land use questions.

So okay, is the requested variance or administrative adjustment consistent with the Master Plan and the spirit purpose and intent of this chapter?

Yes, the current adjustment requested adjustments requests that are consistent with the Master. Thank you, sir.

Okay, the second question is to x. I want you to explain each deficiency and why they cannot meet the letter of the ordinance. In other words, why can you not meet? Why are you asking for a deficiency or variance? And why do these deficiencies exist

in order to develop the buildings at a scale that meet the affordability goals, which are accomplished by density, economic feasibility, as well? As difficulty and corresponding to transit oriented development principles. Okay.

Thank you feel free to ask any additional questions along the

way. I think we've Why can't you meet? Why is it that you are not and I've seen this in a few of your, the information that we have the recreational space requirements. And a lot of times you are deficient?

Yes, you don't. One of the anything.

One of the things we've done if you look at our earlier overview presentation is we significantly reduced the size of the building. So you saw all of those buildings shrink. When we toggled back and forth where we added green space remove buildings. The green space is contributing to our recreational space. So we took the footprint of the buildings and reduce them. And we're looking to accommodate that through the addition of green space.

Is that in the parking lot? Or where is

the green? No, it's green. It's just pure green space. though. Okay. The buildings were where buildings were removed, that is now green space. Okay, so building footprints, larger buildings became smaller buildings, and that additional space became green space. Okay.

Okay, we're more than an extra questions.

If we grant the variance. What will it do for your business and the site where it's being built?

The variance will alleviate the tension between the current zoning code existing parcels inner city core and preferred visions for density and walkability.

Explain how your business will not cause any adverse impact on other businesses around you.

The project will have not have an adverse impact but will have positive impact by enhancing a severely blighted neighborhood returning fallow property to productive use, adding 177 new residents to the north end neighborhood contributing property taxes to the city of Detroit to general fund and a $43 million investment which serves as a catalyst for additional development, additional establishment of businesses and services for the residents. Okay,

we're gonna watch the next few questions.

If there are any impacts from this realm, how will you deal with

development team has vast experience and resources necessary to work directly with the community to address any adverse impacts that occur and to do so as quickly as possible

and what is special about this site.

The site will be affordability again, which is driven by density, the ability to locate the density near the city's investing investment in public transit. Thank you.

Thank you Warren Roberts. Next few questions, please.

Mr. McDonald when you purchase the property, what did you purchase the property for what

property was purchased for the development of multifamily with an affordable component

Do you think that being any other type of business I'm a property other than what you've spoken about presenting today? No, sir.

For me, Sherman if you do less to please.

Our your request benefit to other homes in the area.

The benefit will be the return of severely blighted and fallow property to productive use in the tax rolls. The net investment of $43 million in severely blighted neighborhood resulted in the addition of additional businesses and services for the residents and will serve as a catalyst for additional development.

Is there anything we could have done other than what you are requesting today? No. Is this city owned land or property?

Formerly city owned property? But which was purchased from lambing Thank you. Okay.

And just for questions from the board. Questions. Okay.

Let me see. Yeah.

Let's go to the community. Now yet okay.

Which which, Okay,

the next property?

No question was possible.

Well, we can go that way. Let's do it. Alright. Any other questions regarding this? The rest of these units as a whole. All right. I do have a quick question for you. I'm looking at building number five the trash enclosures. Have you guys rectified that? Can't swing in an alley?

Yes.

The trash enclosure will not be a requested variance. We're going to address that administratively. I can't you're going to the trash enclosure will not be a request of variance. We will address that administratively. During the BC plan review process.

Okay, so that's

okay, that's fine. So that's not a concern. All right. Any additional questions from the board I've seen most of these are Yeah, just Tynion 10 unit complexes. What eight parking spaces provided for each one of attenion. I have in this one. It's 49 parking spaces provided. Not sure how many units are part of that complex. 277 Smith 3323. I want to just parse this all out for someone else. I don't want to drag this conversation long. How many units are part of that? units 10 units before the nine spaces provided? Excellent. Yeah. Look like it was a little bit off there. You guys know

well it's 10 units they 56 is required 49 as well like? Yeah.

Yeah, but it's only 10 units. That's what I'm trying to Okay, this one right here. All right. So this a lot with overage? No, it can't be because it's 46 is provided requires 2049 and is provided.

If you're referring to a site to a or to a and to B those are shared parking spots building. Number one has 62 units building number two has 12 units. Gotcha. And they both share the parking spot that is visible on slide 16

Gotcha. That's why you have 50

spaces remaining. Gotcha. Okay.

All right. Good. Work. It just a question and so right. I see one we're not

okay. I have two so I want to know so we talked about the green space and the let's see, what is it the recreational space rather? And how you using that throughout your facilities or establishments, but I want it to know first of all, provide more information in terms of what that looks like. And if that green space also being accommodated through the impervious space that you are required to do and what does that look like? Yes. And my second question is going to be around parking. I want to revisit that again. With your deficiencies in parking. I'm concerned about the visitors. So we have parking for the residents. But where do the visitors Park? I mean, how will they do they park in the same lot that is allocated for the residents or how does that work?

So first question that you asked about the green space can be found on slide 16. That's, yeah, you can see my

look at that slide because I've heard of several questions. Regarding green space. Slide 16 Director round

I didn't notice 100 slides here.

Okay, so this is the green space unit burns in.

So it's controlled space.

If you can hit Control L you'll see the full

Okay,

can you zoom out? Please

There we go. So as you can see on this slide, all of the areas identified in green are those green spaces. Those are intentionally landscaped and manicured, designed to be outdoor recreational spaces for the enjoyment of the residents. As you also see that there's a specific and clear pathway designed to connect the residents all the way through the community as well. So short answer to your question is all the green stuff is is exterior recreational space.

So people can sit their chairs out there or their enjoyment

at their leisure. Absolutely.

Okay, any additional questions from

that? We also have precedent images of how that is designed as part of the appendix that's on slide what? On slide five zero so this is what that those spaces will look like for the enjoyment of those residents.

So what you see on the left is outdoor landscape areas with pavers and other components. There's also rooftop terrace in both in the building too as well. So you you find that the residents will have what is known as a good time.

Then the parking

and the parking question

you restate this specific question.

Yes. So the parking that you have we understand that it's gated you'll need a key fob or something to get in but how will you handle visitor parking?

Oh, okay. So in accordance with the zoning code visitor parking isn't required to be separated or signed, but it is you know, in the overall pool of parking. So there are some some instances where we have parking outside of the gate. In other instances access would be provided through the gate and they would be part of the overall parking which is how it would normally be handled through the zoning code. There isn't a special allotment or requirement or if it's for parking or it's all

combined, okay. So with the deficiency and parking which may present an issue for the residents and then they're visitors which could further complicate the parking issue. And yeah, impact on the residents

and and the understanding what the market demand is for parking is less than what the zoning requires so since there is a significant amount of senior housing in building to a, the anticipated parking generated is lower than what the zoning code requires. So we still expect that there'll be unused parking spaces even with the variance and relief.

Yeah, because some senior homes which is you know, can be certainly problematic. Have they may have their children living with them or their grandchildren living with them and so, although they may not have a vehicle the people who live in those units

so just to clarify, I apologize for the interruption. But just to clarify in the seniors community. Those non senior members are not live in the community. There's a fit you in order to live in the home. First it's mostly one and two bedrooms. Two, it is 55 and older only. So it is exclusive to those seniors that reside there. Unfortunately, it won't be a multi generational household but again, it's an apartment. And so for this type of resident it is their preference and as typical. They don't have the money.

That's, that's good. And it's important that that's closely monitored, because you know, I'm sure you know, that is not the case in many senior homes.

Okay. All right,

any further questions. Any further questions for the petitioner? All right,

let's move on.

Community comment. Oh, are you still dealing with the face? No,

we're done. Okay.

This is community comment one last time for the board.

Are we sure no more community no more conversations. With the petitioner at this point. Thank you very much. We move on. Alright, let's go to the community. Anyone here in support of anyone here support anyone here support? Anyone here in the audience in support of this petitioners request? Anyone here else here in support? Please come down. I don't see anyone. Okay, I do see one

could please could.

Miss cockerel Can you come down to the podium please? And just because we heard to you introduce himself earlier. He just takes a name one more time for us.

Sheila cockerel. I just want to make the point that I supporters were were here earlier. Folks have been attending these meetings for a long, long time and just could not stay the whole time. So I would want to say for sure that the people who spoke in support are supporting all of these projects, not just 202

Yeah, duly noted. Thank you very much. All right. Anyone else's support anyone else's support anyone else's support none for an audience. Let's try our virtual participants. Anyone else in support, press star nine by phone option plus y by MAC device plus y by keyboard. Anyone support this project? Press star nine by phone option plus Why buy a Mac device plus Why buy keyboard with our virtual participants. Director Brian Do you see anyone?

No I don't Mr. Chairman. Okay,

let's go to opposition. anyone here in opposition? anyone here in opposition? Okay, I'll see to you please come down here. Please. State your name and address Well, I don't think it's necessary. Yeah, just yeah, just address this. Just take your name address for record. Yeah, woman

Tyson gearshift. 252 Slash 254 Smith Street.

You get the floor. Great.

Thank you. I'm not sure what point there is speaking today. It doesn't seem like any feedback you guys get, or any public servants in this city care about existing residents, which is really frustrating. I'm not sure. I haven't heard you directly reference the approval criteria. I've heard you ask questions sort of related. And then the developer just gives you an answer and you just believe it. I mean, is it consistent with the master plan? We are RLM low medium density residential. That is the definition eight to 16 dwelling units per net residential acre. This is not that it is more than double that. So just because somebody says it's consistent with the Master Plan, doesn't mean that it is. So I don't understand. I feel like this is and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I feel like this is you guys's job to say, hey, here's what the master plan says. We're not seeing that reflected in the plan. But you're just sort of taking it at face value. Section 50 dash four dash one to one point D the requested variance or administrative adjustment will have no significant adverse impact on the health, safety or general welfare of the surrounding property owners. You received over 30 letters with detailed explanations of how it would harm the adjacent property owners from 30 Different adjacent property owners. Those were not all the same boilerplate template. They gave you specific instances of how this would harm them. You did not acknowledge any of that. I don't know how much of a point is to speak anymore, but on behalf of 420 CHANDLER where I do not live, you do have a bathroom window 6.8 feet directly across from somebody's living room window and windows facing into teenage children's bedrooms. 10 separate units that is not appropriate. You should really request some form of change for the 404 through 410 CHANDLER properties. What's being done to the adjacent property owner is egregious. You should be ashamed of yourselves if you approve it.

Thank you very much. All right. Anyone else in opposition? Anyone else in opposition? Yes, you want to? you state your name and address for the record?

Yes, my name is JoAnn Wallach. I live at 264 Smith. I would like to thank BCA board member Miss Moore because it was so rare that I hear anyone listening care about the people who live right there. And this all could have been avoided and we just played together. I was told they were going to do a planning study in 2015. But oh no. Now I know all this secret planning was being really good. All these false narratives were being passed around. We get requested by our property all the time. This was not needed to rebuild the north and it is a false narrative. I'm not convinced the water infrastructure can handle this. I think this process violates due process because we did not get a copy of everything you got. I imagine you got a grotesque misrepresentation of this so called community engagement that was done let me remind you this was planned in secret was several selected people by being do say non disclosure agreements with most of them didn't even have the decency to include us. So please deny this. We can do a planning study. include everybody, this is just faith in the city. People wonder why I still live here. And I keep spending the rest of my life. My father grew up here. And if it matters to anybody, my great great grandfather Adelphia Josiah Easton fought in the Union cavalry, or the Union soldiers to end slavery got injured and ended up at Harper has first Civil War people are just sick and tired of people playing the race card. This is now where Dr. King's dream was supposed to be about a thank you again, never easy to be inclusive of everybody from the start has already be so. Everybody. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. All right, one last one is Smith online. Okay. For our virtual participants in opposition lawanna Smith.

Hello, my name is lawanna Smith, and I'm representing Miss Smith

spoke girl she did was okay. No, I don't think she did.

No, I never spoke

before I remember that. Your testimony

for the truth.

Miss Smith. Yes. I do. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Hi, I'm so I am representing properties 272 and 306 e spittoon. Those properties or residential properties located right between John are and brush streets. But before I present any opposition's I want to give thanks to the community members who live or work had businesses right in the median meet excuse me right in the immediate area where where the development is being proposed. I know the community members are doing an awesome job with caring for their properties, the community. There's beautiful homes on the slides that I saw in the area. The residential properties that are in the community are beautiful. People take pride they care for their properties and their neighbors, people pick up trash so I heard a comment that people are not assisting with community cleanup. I see that all the time myself. I'm on every week. I'm picking up trash and paper from the park from users at the park. But my I'm gonna go ahead and address my concerns. The first one is parking on Batoon street between John R and brush. There is only one side of the street where parking is allowed and that is on the north side of the street. There are multiple properties residential properties on that street on that block. That are are where there are people who actually live and use the properties. There are only a few driveways so there is no we're already for individuals to park, people who live in the homes and visitors so we have one side of the street the north side where parking is allowed the south side of that street there is no parking. Okay, we do have some parking that takes place on the lots where it should not be happening. Another thing that I want to say is about the park the park is heavily used on the proposed corner lot. It's right there on brush the corner lot of north north brush Street North. Excuse me, it's the north side of Batoon and it's the west northwest corner of Batoon and brush streets right across the street from the park. That is where park users they literally Park on that lot. We could have 20 to 30 cars on that lot where there's a proposed 10 unit development so what will happen to the parking for those people who use the park what will happen that park you will disappear which it they should not be parking there. But my point is the park is heavily heavily used. There is already no parking for the individuals who use the park and most of the individuals aren't even residents of the immediate area. Okay, and the North End extends a mile a mile and a half out. Out of the people who represent the north end they aren't immediately impacted by that. area. And that's what I'm not seeing. Okay,

thank you. Now we're in the 763 I believe she's

six three spoke. Let's let's entertain 763 you state your name

763 I don't

this is lawanna. Smith.

Okay, not not okay. 763 was one minus one is Smith. Okay. I'm

done. Okay, yes, I guess.

763 you're unmuted.

Time 763

I think that that may have been the one of them. No,

it wasn't it was a different number. Okay,

but that she's not speaking they're not responding. Anyone else? Director Brown.

That is it. Mr. Chairman. Thank you very much. So, Mr. Chairman, for we want to take each case beginning with 30 das 23. So before we

do that, let's call a petitioner one back when so. Once again just to address the concerns from the community.

Sure. Again, I will be brief commissioners, I want to be very honest and very clear. Change is aren't it is part of what development is it is at the root of the business. This community is obviously passionate. That is part of reason why this developer chose to engage over the last three years in a extensive process. Frankly, there is going to be change and we want to manage that change responsibly and effectively. Part of what you see before you is a plan that is not only designed to bring forth change but has adapted to the requested changes of the neighborhood. I want to be very, very clear that change is hard and that's part of what we do again as a Detroit resident. This is part of what we do this is awesomely also part of what our job is to react to the request emotions the desires, the wills the history of our community in a expected and desired way to honor these people and their wishes. I think that this development, although not perfect, does that and I want to make sure it is clear that that is our intent and our vision to bring forward a development that moves the city forward. There were a couple of very specific points around windows on the Chandler address. If you have this I plan it's on 16th the Chandler addresses the one at the top of the screen. On the far right hand side. I just want to point out that on the elevation in question, there are no windows because there's a bathroom there and there's a bedroom there but again, because that wall is close to that resident there won't be Windows on that elevation. There is a parking lot and then there's more distance so I think somebody said it was six feet to the window it just won't be Windows they're in that's just a building code required. Yeah. So point remains there again also around parking. It is important to acknowledge that the park is utilized that as you have heard, the residents are using these vacant lots to park them that is an inappropriate use that is blinding those structures. And frankly, that's not a development issue. That's an enforcement issue. It is through the tax dollars that we generate, through projects like this that we will have more police on the street to affect those code enforcement and those issues that are causing of concern in this community. Again, we can talk and answer all the questions that you may have regarding the physical and technical components of this development. But at the heart of what you have heard from the constituents is a matter of change. I want to be very very clear that this developer can and will continue to honor those and continue the dialogue continue to press forward and continue handle the change that development creates responsibly and effectively.

Okay, thank you very much. All right. Just point out any questions from the board? Or no? We're not has a question for the petitioner. To the petitioner. Keep in mind, please. All right, I got two questions for you. We're not Ben Sherman.

And this is probably for Sheila cockerel is well, no, we're the people are some of the people who attended the community meetings required to sign an NDA non disclosure agreement.

No, I we've never we've never held a meeting or anyone to sign a nondisclosure agreement.

Okay. Yeah, our meetings are. Well, she's, yes. Joanne.

Excuse me, sir.

Please. Yeah, I need to know the full story. So what is going on? That's going to be very important for me to make my decision.

There is no story regarding non disclosure agreements. As far as our history with this development, there's been allegations about non disclosures made with some of the bad blood between residents and Vanguard CDC but for the record, we've not had any involvement whatsoever with any such agreements.

So there were no NDAs that were required. Absolutely

not.

Yes. And my other question is, so I saw the the renderings, and it looks like there's going to be the rooftop is open, obviously and people can sit up there. But Will people be able to have parties on the rooftop and how will your management or will and will your management company, prohibit those type of activities?

Well, the rooftop

of the I'm

sorry, those are the singer's buildings where those rooftops are so there will not be parties there. No, ma'am. There may be events for the singers that are held up there, but those aren't going to be party spaces. It's a 55. And, I mean, it's an age restricted. We know we're not going to allow we will not allow parties maybe more directly to answer your question. Okay. There will not take and all of that will not be allowed. No, there won't be loud music and I mean, it's a management issue, but those will not be spaces where I think you're concerned about disturbances to the residents in the neighborhood. No, in general, that will not be allowed for any of the buildings beyond the rooftop terraces. It's not a characteristics that's consistent with any of the communities that we own and manage across the country.

We're working for right now not. Alright. That may have been

the NDA though. I mean, they're saying that that did not happen.

Immediately. The community stated that there's a there was some type of NBA I'm not sure what it is, but fiercer. Indicated there's not one.

I blew it up so that they know Okay, who is the president? All right. Let's see. Any more any more.

Any more questions?

I think she looked cockerel Can you address what they're saying? They're saying that there are it was been is

there have been no kind of nondisclosure agreements at all with with on this project from the time that the ivantage Corporation got involved with this. There has been there have been allegations that have not that have been denied by Vanguard that they have non disclosure agreements around this project. There is there is some kind of counsel that Vanguard has a Community Council that is not specific to this project, but is specific to their overall work in the neighborhood. I don't I don't believe that. I've been told that there are not nondisclosure agreements. They've told me that, but I just don't have any personal you know, I don't know that personally. But I know that these allegations have been made and they'd be met been made consistently and they've been refuted time and time again. And it is an there has been a small group of people who have had a different agenda from the beginning. Some of the folks want to keep want to keep the north end as a Agra hood want to keep it as was an agriculturally based focus. There are folks

Ma'am, ma'am, we can't have these outbursts sideways.

This has been this has been characteristic of the entire process. In fact, my view is as somebody who does community engagement, there are people who don't want to participate very much in the process because if they speak up, they get yelled at. They get named called, they get threatened by tech. So this this project by Vanguard, who's been in this community for 30 years, does not have non disclosure agreements. And there's absolutely nothing that this project with ivantage and my son and I've been involved in that would have any kind of non disclosure agreement. What are you not disclosing? What is the what would you not disclose? I don't have any idea that there are no non disclosure agreements.

And Vanguard is that Reverend Vance Bishop bands okay. I thought it was this event presented something.

Bishop van is the founder of Vanguard. Thank

you very much. That was a connection there.

But just to clarify this, again. Everything you've seen here today that has been totally planned by the companies have vanished RMC Tecton everything that's been before you in this plan is totally the void and and unattached to any of the discussion here about non disclosure agreements. As far as we're concerned, those are neighborhood rumors that have had nothing to do with what we have planned as it relates to this development. We've had no interface whatsoever with this, whatever community cabinet or whatever, none of that has been involved in the planning of what you see before you here

today. Oh, anger.

Okay, guys, sit. All right. Any further questions whether or not you pretty much any other board members. Thank you. i Right. At this point in time, let's go into a board member discussion with board members only amongst board members only and that motion is always

put for the record you're taking a vote on each case separately. Beginning with BZ a case study das 23 building s building five I'm sorry. Okay, which one we're gonna start with first Rody das 23. Building 530 23

Okay 3023 Okay, attending in its

propose

that is 3093 3319 and 331 East but don't they have 10 units proposed with eight parking spaces provided discussion points

I know that the developer said that they're gonna work administrative leave me on a trash enclosures, but it's still it's still before us. So

I think this is no longer before us. The trash enclosures so

if he says no longer an issue that it won't be on my decision in order if this case is granted, it will not be a variance given on my decision or which means when he goes to submit his plans to BC he has to have the required trash enclosure.

Okay. Thank you.

Any more discussion points? Okay,

we're watching and the only variance for this particular location is that's a question. So there's

this particular case 30 Dash 23. There's a front yard setback, efficient recreational space and a rear yard setback.

Parking focus that one's

Mr. Chairman, base based on everything we've received so far on this particular case. 30 days 23 I make a motion that we approve the variance as requested by the petitioner since they have met all the criteria of 50 days, four days 121

Is there a second?

Second that's been moving properly. Second, any questions? Any underwriters All in favor indicate by saying aye aye nay, eyes have IT director Brown.

I didn't hear anything anybody say nay no one said no Chairman you have these a cake. all board members have voted unanimously BZ a case. 30 Dash 23 building s Ronald McDonald five building Thank you

Ronald McDonald requesting dimensional Baroness for 10 unit proposed multifamily development has been granted we now move to BZ a case study one dash 23 buildings six

Okay, any discussion points on building six as 20 as 299-303-3073 13 319 and 325 Millstreet as well as 771. Now, some points from the

board would like to know deficiencies. No, go ahead.

I'm looking at deficiencies right here. So Oh,

buildings three A and three B have deficient front setback and recreational space for both buildings. And building three V has the side yard setback, various

discussion points.

Most is always encouraged.

I'll make the motion that we accept the petitioners request for variances for case number 31 Dash 23 buildings six. Three a for minimum front setbacks and building three V for deficient recreational space and side setbacks.

I second it's

been moving property a second. Any questions any unready is all in favor indicate by saying Aye Aye Aye. Any nays eyes have a director brown

unanimous easy peasy a case study one desk 23 buildings six model McDonnell requests multiple dimensional variances for the proposed development construction of two multifamily buildings to provide six units three A and 1023 B has been granted. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, we now move to BCA case. 32 there's 23 buildings six

okay 3233 23 building six as 404 through 410 CHANDLER Okay, so another 10 unit proposed a parking space for writing. You want to read the deficiencies and it's beautiful.

This is really our setback fishy recreational space the fish side yard and landscaping adjacent residential

it's got some points from the board.

I just have to so we're not we're not doing the trash again. So I just want to be on on red trash closer is no longer part of this right. And parking is so I would you know whoever makes the motion. I would ask that there be that condition of no charging for the parking.

Parking is on this one. Parking is on which we have parking on this.

No it's not on this. Oh,

I'm sorry. It says residents backyard practice recurring.

I'm not sure.

Okay. I got you. Okay. You have an out of pocket.

Okay. Okay, guys. Audience again,

by virtue of the fact that petitioner has met all the criteria 50 Dash for this 121 I make a motion that we accept the bear and allow Petitioner the requested variance

there a second.

Second from the board. I'll second the mover property. Second. Any unreadiness and questions? All in favor indicate by saying aye aye. Is the nays any nays eyes have a director brown

unanimous DCA case 32 deaths 23 Ronald McDonald requesting dimensional variances for 10 unit proposed multi family development within our three zone has been granted these EAA case 3323 Mr. Chairman,

thank you Director Brown. Okay, start at 323 as 203 to 59 to 67 to 71 to 77 Smith Street.

Deficiencies for this are the seven space deficiency parking deficient front yard, floor area ratio and side yard setback which is

six feet efficient.

And there's a first appointment. I think there's parking on this one.

This was parking 4656 parking spaces require 49 provided you're deficient seven spaces.

Again, I'd recommend a condition of no charging for parking.

Okay. Duly noted.

Is there a motion?

Is there a motion on the floor?

Yeah, can I can make that motion. Okay. I recommend a motion to approve. Case number 33 Dash 23. Having met the conditions of 50 dash four dash 131 as well as adherence to the master plan of the city for front setback minimum for space, parking deficiency and side yard setback.

So move apparently second and the unreadiness any questions? All in favor indicate we're sitting out okay. Here's a question NASA board member

more. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. With the condition and no parking. Yeah.

Okay. That condition has been met. All in favor, indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any nays? eyes have it. Director Brown

is the case. 33 would not win. I'm sorry. 33 days 23 Ronald McDonald request to mention advances for 10 unit proposed multifamily development has been granted BCA case 3423 Mr. Chairman buildings seven a and seven B.

Okay. 3423 that's 501 511 519 525-520-9535 45 by 55 and 561 East for tone 10 units propose a parking spaces provided. I think you already mentioned the deficiencies

for both buildings efficient front setback and recreational space.

Okay. discussion points most has always encouraged

I'll make a motion regretted having building safety planning to develop already having passed on this I grant? I recommend we grant petitioners variance based on that back having met 30 days, four days 121 criteria.

Is there a second? Second,

it's been moved and properly seconded. Any unreadiness any questions? All in favor indicate by stating Aye Aye Any nays? eyes have a director brown

DCA case 3423 Ronald McDonald question. The mention of Venice is for the development of two buildings. 14 months multifamily units and our three that has been granted Mr. Chairman, BCA case 3523 3523.

That's 28290296302306312 Smith Street between John Arne brush

efficiencies our front yard setback and recreational space.

Okay I see is another 10 unit proposed a parking space was provided discussing points on the board.

Again Mr. Chair, I make a motion that we grant the variance based on the prior considerations that we grant the variance for case number 35 days 23 Haven't met all the criterias of 50 days for 121.

Is there a second? Second mover probably second, any underwriting is any questions all in favor indicate by saying Aye Aye. Aye. Any nays? as having

the ZA ks 3523 Ronald McDonald requesting dimensional variances for the development of a 10 unit multifamily development has been granted. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Board members.

Thank you. I will stay

you