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Come join us and let's grab drinks Hey friends, welcome back to the podcast. We are excited to have you here for our third episode. So season three of Gilmore Girls in our recap thoughts and everything in between. I'm Haley and I'm Brie.
Oh, I'm excited about this. Yes,
me too. i This is one of my favorite seasons because obviously justice in it for quite a bit of the time.
We needed to break from old Dino boy.
Oh, yes. Yes, we did.
Well, I I am drinking coffee with a sight of coffee this morning because I am not talking like a Gilmore Girl right now. I am definitely talking like me and I need to chug this. What do you drink it over there?
Same. I'm on my second cup of coffee today.
Well, my first that's my problem. I should not be on my first cup of coffee for our Gilmore Girls episode. I should be on the third or fourth.
This late in the day. That's like my first thing I get up. I go downstairs, I start my coffee and I let my dogs out. Like that is my morning. That's my morning routine.
My morning routine era. You know what I love so much. I think it like comes out later in the Gilmore Girls stuff. But like, I love that, like the coffee obsession is not just a Lorelai thing. Yeah, but it's her mom. Like, I feel like it's where it all stems from because like in one of the episodes, I can't remember which season or anything but like, her dad starts like counting how many cups of coffee her mom is having. And Emily is like, excuse me leaving my coffee.
And then he goes to this town with Lorelai. And this like, he starts counting her sips of coffee coffee Have you had? Yes. No. That's so true, though. Like, I also feel like people that don't drink coffee, or don't have a slight caffeine addiction are always judgy because like, yeah, even does not drink caffeine. Like it's just not a thing. He's never been into like Coke or soda or anything.
Nothing and then even like energy drinks or anything.
So he does energy drinks when like if we're gonna go like shopping for all day, or if we
need to guard warm energy for this. Yeah,
that's like the only time and it's like a super clean energy drink. like green tea is the bane for work. No, no, he does not do any of that for work. Unless he's like, unless he is exhausted. And he's like, I need caffeine today. That's impressive. Yeah. So then when I'm on my third or fourth cup of whatever caffeine beverage I'm having. He's like, how many of those have you had? And I'm like sharp, Richard. Not really, I've never said that too. But that's what you're thinking.
It's more So Brandon. And I try to make sure like we're drinking water. Like have you had any water today? It's not necessarily like that. We care how much caffeine we have. It's that are you also drinking water?
Yeah, I am good about water. Like I'm I'm good on hydration.
I am good with carrying my water around with me. And I have my emotional support water bottle with me at all times. But it doesn't always get empty. So it's not good.
I don't know why I've always been a hydrator like I always have to have a drink with me. I always have to be drinking something. Waters not hilarious to me. I've
always been a hydrator
it's just, it's my personality now. But I have
my kid here to Parker loves water. She gets like so excited. She's got her own little water bottle and I even put stickers, right because we're obsessed with the stickers right now. And she I ordered some soap from Tabby Dodd for her. And that little sticker came with that and I was like, Oh, that's cute. But I'm like, that's not a sticker. I'm putting on my laptop. And I was like, Oh, I could put it on her water bottle. So now she's like, like doing your own little stickers.
I love it.
I love so cute. Okay, let's start talking more or I could go more girl. I'm gonna let you kick it off as I let my coffee start to sink in since you were ahead of me on the caffeine. All right, well,
we are going to kick off with the very first scene of season three and it's Lorelai has a dream about Luke cooking her breakfast kissing her belly because she's pregnant. And it's a dream and the dream but yeah, and the dream I think it just like they tell us so early on. on in the series that they're gonna end up together, and I just really like, I don't know if I'm a fan of the dreams that happen in the show like they're always super weird and cheesy like, the Pollenca dream later on that happens yeah. Oh
yeah, that one's dorky.
Yeah, I it's it's very interesting how they set up these dream scenes which there's another one I'll get to it towards the end that I was like, until this season. I don't think I've ever noticed it but yeah, we'll say that for the end because it's like a big moment. But that happens. And as a recap, like Rory has gone to DC for the summer she's coming home. And she's still with Dean. She's writing d letters talking to Dean. Not speaking to just despite the fact that they kissed so, yeah. Jobs back and she confessed she gets mad at Jess, for being at whatever
that is with another girl. Yeah. Which I cannot
remember her name to save my life. I don't think he could either.
I don't think he heard either. Yeah, no. Yeah. Okay, first of all the dream though. I know. They're all wild and wacky and whatever. But like when I first watched Gilmore Girls, I was like, oh, oh my god. Oh my god. Like it like, it really gets you. It's it's brilliant. I think it's a brilliant way to start a season. I love it so much. It's that shock factor of like, oh my god, they got together. Oh my god, she's pregnant. Oh my God, what's happening? And then it's like all dream and you're like, oh, but that would be so cute. Right? Right. Okay, yeah, I agree Rory coming back. That whole thing is just such a nightmare situation. It's just it's just cringe not a nightmare. It's cringe. It's all cringe. It's like,
girl, she was being a little dummy. Get your life together. And then that brings up the whole idea of like the storyline of Chris and Lorelai. And I wanted to talk about the the night that they go over to Friday Night Dinner, and Chris shows up. And I I I have a soft spot for Chris But dude, I hated that was
called for. Yeah, I love this scene. It's very, it's it's strange because I love it because it is brilliant. But it is very stressed. It's very stressful to watch. But I love how Emily steps up as a mom. Finally, like you get it Mama Bear like yeah, he shuts him down and is like you need to go
in such a mom way to that he like had to respect her, you know? Yeah, I love it. And then the, because Lorelai is now single. One of the next things is Kirk.
I'm laughing for hearsay because I'm reading
the notes. Just Kirk asked for a lie out which was so wholesome and cute, and adorable. And she's just like, I don't see him that way. It's Kirk.
Oh, honey. Yeah. Oh, her
poor Kirk. But I do like when she rejects him or like right before she rejects them. He's like, I just want you to know you're the prettiest girl I've ever seen. Outside of a dirty magazine. Wow, that laugh was I don't know why I find that so funny. All right, moving on from Kirk asking Lorelai out. Let's talk about when Emily comes to town to eat with Lorelai at Luke's diner because she's like, going to tell her that she went talk to Chris but just the whole scene of Emily coming into the diner to actually sit down and eat. And like she wipes down everything. She just was so out of place. So funny.
I know. It's hilarious.
Yeah. Have you ever seen southern charm? I feel like we've talked about you not no, no. When you watch it, I just want you to like connect these two people. Emily Gilmore is the TV version of Patricia. Miss Patricia. Like literally it is. So it's a reality show and she's like a real person. But like, they just remind me so much of each other and how they act and like the properness of them. It's so so funny. But anyway, so if there's any turn this up. Yeah, if there's southern charm fans out there, I am brand new to the show. I just started and I'm on the final season, like the most recent season right now. And I am visit like current, is it going? So it's still going On Oh, interesting.
Well, I mean, we'll have to try it because you did get Brandon and I to start watching Jane the Virgin.
Yeah, thanks to Amanda Warfield. She's the one that told me to watch it nice girl. And
hilarious. Oh my god. Okay, so this I know this is totally off topic, but we go to bed last night, and we get in our room. And Brandon's like you'll never have, you won't be able to guess what I have stuck in my head. And I'm like, what? And he's like, so in Jane the Virgin her dad has this alarm, like ringtone thing for his phone. So when he wakes up in the morning, it's like, it's a lovely day to be Roy. Hey, Leo. Braden singing that last night and I'm like, Oh my God. We haven't even watched it a couple of days. And he's like, it's a beautiful day to be.
I I'm gonna make Steven watch it. I think he would enjoy it. Brandon's liking it. I'm like Stephen Hill.
I mean, he was like, ready to give up after a couple episodes. He's like, I just don't know. And I'm like, come on. We need we need something dorky to watch. And now we love it. Okay, back to Gilmore Girls. I'm factoring it back in. So Jess and Rory. The hot mess Express of them like, Oh, are we getting back together? Or are we getting together because we kissed and but I'm with Dean and blah, blah, blah. And they like run into each other at the grocery store. And she like gets all mad at him. The whole thing is just I feel like we should just skip ahead with them to when she finally breaks up with Dean because it's such a hot mess.
Yeah. Like what I liked about the grocery store scene is he's like, Oh, yeah. And what about Dean? Are you still with him? Last I heard you were and she like, can't even say anything? Because
he puts her in her place. He's like, Yeah, I'm sorry. You kissed me. And then you ran away to DC and didn't talk to me. And then you come back and you still have a boyfriend. And yet you're getting mad at me because I'm with another girl now. And I didn't like wait around for precious lore like Rory. And I'm like, good for you. Just good for you.
Alright, let's go ahead and skip to when they get together at the dance marathon. Because
one of my favorite episodes of all Yeah, I mean, it's so good. I think my favorite favorite is no, I think it's in season four. But when you jump out jump, Jack. No,
it's either five or six. What? Yeah, yeah, because I'm currently watching season five right now. And we haven't even gotten there. Like they just okay, that's my favorite of all time you'd like that episode.
But the dance comes in a close. Second.
I like how they set it up to where like, it's so obvious, like, Jess is obvious about it. Or he's obvious about it. And he's like, he pulls his girl closer. And then she pulls Dean in. And Dean's like, oh my gosh, like, I'm so stupid. And I'm like, Yeah, Dean, you are.
I mean, it's such a crappy way for her to break up with him though it like and then she like cries about it. And it's like,
yeah, come on. It was like she wanted her cake. And eating it too. I don't know how to say that in that tense. But she wanted her cake to have her cake and eat it too. That's how you say it. And I just, I don't know, but I do like that after. So after Dean breaks up with her. And she's out sitting on the dock just comes over and he's like, are you indeed done? And she's like, yes. And he goes, Okay, I gotta go take care of something. And he goes and breaks up with his girl. And I was like, that's very, despite the fact that you're, you two are being stupid. It was very respectful. It was
instead of just like leaning over and making out with her.
He's like, Alright,
I gotta go take care of
this. Yeah, which I that girl didn't even care. Like,
no. He could have leaned over made out with her and she would have been like, Yeah, whatever. But I'm glad I made us like him more. It was like, okay, he does have like a good there's, there's good inside him.
I do. I love just this. I feel like there's a little redemption for him. And then he just like, plummets, he has his moments
he really does have his moments where you're just like, Ah, I really love this kid. Yeah, and
if you're in the Facebook group I recently posted an article about why teen Jess is like the only way to be so cool. read that article and you'll see all the reasons I love just to I didn't vote I didn't write it is like just something circulating but it's so good.
Or she didn't write it
should have. Anyway okay, let's jump back in the season. And I want to talk about so this is the time when Rory is preparing for Harvard. At this point, it's still Harvard. Yeah, the plan. And she's like talking to people. And she realizes, like, oh, I need to connect with an alumni and she goes to the Springsteen house, not Bruce Springsteen related thing I wish because that would be less cringy
than this house situation that she went to. Oh, my word, that whole thing. I'm just like, this is like, it was weird and creepy and so dysfunctional. Yes.
I, I almost wish that this whole episode, or this part of the episode was left out like I could have lived without this in the series. Oh, yeah. Like it almost made it look like these alumni families are just really weird. Not wanting to live your part. You
want to go to school with kids like
that? Right? But also, like, I don't like how they said, Oh, our daughter's away. She's doing her own thing. And she's literally in the house.
No, hate it. Horrible, horrible parenting. No, she
was like the Lorelai of that family. Yes,
that's what that's why the scene is there, because they wanted to show like, this is kind of the house that Lorelai grew up in. And this was Lorelai. And this is how she was and it didn't work with what Richard and Emily wanted. It all ties in. But it's still just like, Oh, yes, it may be. That's why they put it in. It's just a reminder of who Richard and Emily are and how she was raised as we go into her deciding if she's gonna go to Harvard, or if she's gonna go to Yale.
I mean, I still watch it every time I don't skip it. Oh, I
don't skip. I don't skip anything. Nope. Okay, let's talk about then. Her getting kind of ambushed to visit Yale. What did you think of that? Okay.
I think with the actual like, going to Yale, no big deal. Whatever, you're gonna see the canvas, it gives you a chance. But then Richard screws it up. By not even prepping her and I love how she reacts. So Richard, yeah. Brings her in to meet with the admissions counselor or something. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, I if you had just told me, I would have worn a different outfit I would have prepared I would have had, you know, I would I would
have taken the meeting. I would have done the meeting for you and pour out my own curiosity. But yeah, ambushed be.
Yeah. Like she's applied to Yale. Um, right, which was later. Yeah,
we didn't find that out yet until later. But, you know, and it's hard. There's a couple of moments that because I think we like Richard so much. But then there's like those moments where we're like, ah, yeah, there's those flaws. And because I think we forget, like all the crap that he put Lorelai through as well. I think so much of it gets put on Emily, throughout the entire season of like her childhood and how she was raised. It's like, so much of the blame goes to Emily. Yeah, but it was Richard too. And there's these moments that remind us like, it wasn't just Emily. And I appreciate that because she should not going to
blame even in this season. It comes out quite a few times. Like we already talked about Chris going back to Sherry, and in the scene where basically lower like tells him or tells them that that's happened. She's like, Emily is like, why is he doing this? He should be with Lorelei. They're meant to be together. And Richard is like, Laurel, I have the chance to marry him and she didn't she screwed up. And so he's doing right by Sherry And like taking Sherry side, which there shouldn't really be sides, but the fact that he throws Lorelai under the bus like she had her chance and she blew it. I don't know. It's just like a crappy. Like, it's not someone you want to be your dad.
No, like, it's not being empathetic toward your own daughter. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. So interesting. Yes. And then okay, I guess if we skip ahead a little bit Jess and Rory finally get together. Lalala. All is right in the world for a moment. Oh my gosh, okay. We have to talk about Thanksgiving. Because I think that comes like right after they get together.
Yes. Okay. So, at Thanksgiving, I wonder my really good episode. It is I really love all like they really put all the characters together. I loved there's two main things that like cracked me up in this episode. Sookie getting drunk. I can like I die laughing.
I've seen this show how many times and I still crack up.
Oh my god. Yes. And then Lorelai at her parents house trying to speak was a friend. I don't even remember it. She asked the man to go to bed. Yes. The wife is like, Oh, it's a song. I mean, she's speaking whatever language I can't even remember the language or speaking but it's gotta be roars like, it's a song it really? Yes.
I'm like, I didn't even know what I didn't know what? Like I've heard the song. I
didn't know what that meant is
I watched Gilmore.
Like, oh, I remember being a kid and like going around singing that song. I know my mom didn't know what it meant. Yeah,
hilarious. Oh my god. Okay, wait,
I want to back up really fast because we skipped over something that is one of my favorite scenes is worry and Lorelai devil agging justice car this is before they get together. Devil leg is my car. I don't know why I love it so much. It's just like, and I'm Team Jess. But there's nothing better than getting stupid revenge on someone by double wagging their car. And they
didn't have that many even and then they're like, oh, for done already. Yeah,
my stupid Sherry not sending us with more stupid share. He Okay, back to Thanksgiving. That night at the end of Thanksgiving, just as taking out the garbage. And he runs in pain. And then threatens him as like, I don't have to back down from you. I can whatever blah blah, blah. And it just, like reminded me of dancing with Tristan. I'll kill you idiot. And I was like, Yes, I don't I don't like and I just
was like getting all West Side Story on me. And I was like, Ah, this kid it made like he just has his moments for like, I love this kid. Oh my god. I loved I thought you were gonna say the moment before he because he's taking out the trash and Lorelai and Rory get there to the diner and they're gonna go in and Rory hangs back for a second and kisses Jess. That kiss is just like, Ah, it's a good. I don't know. It's NDMC frickin Dean. Creepy Dean. Good Lord. He has his moments. I'm like, he's like, serial killer vibes.
I'm like, I'm ahead right now. And rewatching. And I'm, I don't want to give too much away. But I'm in the like, oh, Dean, you're even worse than you were in high school areas. And I'm like, go.
I'm like, Where are your parents? Where are your parents? Who's your who's your mom and dad? And like, why aren't they having conversations with you? Goodness gracious. You never see Dean's parents. Okay, you do. What? Your parents? Mom
is Mom. Yeah. Never his dad. He doesn't have a dad and like, there's no character. It's kind of like Elaine. Her dad's never around. But he's
right. You only see his mom when it's like she comes to the house and she's like, they go into his bedroom to hang out and she like opens the bedroom door.
Yeah, that one. And yeah. The another person you don't see their parents is Kirk. I started thinking about that. Mom all the time and never ever see her. And I'm never see his mom. Okay, the Winter Carnival where Rory is like, come on. You can come or I actually don't even think she tries pushing him. He's like, I'm just not coming. So she goes by herself and then runs into Dean and just is like, No, I'm coming. And I just I hate I do hate that part of just like the I won't do anything that you want to do. Unless I
got a couple times. Yeah, also. I hate Dean's sister.
She acts like she's fine. And she's like 12 Yes, it is so
obnoxious. Can't I'm like they should have made her younger or something like have it be like a five year old? Yeah, definitely. It's a 12 year old acting like a five year old it is like oh my god. I would have acted like Jess and then like, belong to you?
Well, it's funny. In the at the carnival I like I kind of like how just confronts Rory about talking to Dean because dia or he went and got coffee and she never told him and he's like I do Want to know, I want you to tell me? And she's like, Yeah, you're right. And if that had been the opposite, like, Dean would have lost his mind.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. One
thing in this episode this season, about Lorelai, and Luke is Lorelai meets that guy that's opening a coffee shop. And she's gonna go fishing with him. And then Luke teaches her how to fish. And then she's like, Oh, I'm just going fishing with friends. And then he realizes, Oh, I'm teaching her to fish with.
Yeah, so she can go on this date with this dude. Damn.
Why? I could punch her sometimes. But
also, wasn't he with the coal at that point? Or was he night?
i She's in actually don't know if they're together or not at that point. I can't remember the timeline.
Because he did stuff for Lorelai when he was dating other women to that it was like, yes. If I was with him, I'd be like, Excuse me?
Yes. Okay. I have a note for later. But we'll talk about that now is when the fire happens at the end. And Lorelai gives her room at her house to guests to sleep in. And then she's without a bed. So she goes to Luke and is like Luke, let me in. And she goes upstairs and he's on the phone with Nicole and doesn't mention her. And then she's like, Why didn't you tell Nicole? I was here. Because they're dating at that point. And he's like, Well, on our first date, she ordered fries, and I talked about you and then thought that was it. And then I talked about you again, and it's kind of a sore spot for me. And I was like, Huh. Okay, let's go to the flashbacks of Lorelai. And Chris as teenagers, although I do love the scenes. I don't love the either the acting or the actress of the girl that plays the teenage will or light and it may just be the writing because she's like, it's like she's delivering her lines. Weird. Yeah, like she's trying to be the Lorelai. But we know, but she just doesn't happen. I do love how they intertwine them, especially in the episode where maybe it is just that episode where and they carry wide net. And like in the hospital, right.
Oh, is that what it is? She's going to labor?
Yeah, I think it may be earlier judiciary. But I scheduled she messed up. I do love the scenes where it's like, you're seeing Laura lies experience and then Jerry's experience. And that's very different. And like, you can see how struggle or lie is yes.
It's also like just went the scene whenever her and Chris are standing there looking at the babies in the nursery and shatters me. And he's
like, She's perfect. And Laura lies like Rory is perfect. Or whatever. I remember the exact lines and he wasn't there. No. Boy kind of her fault. She didn't tell him. He came later. After worries born and he's standing there with her, but Okay, yeah. But like,
He showed that he wasn't. Yeah, yes.
And the irony of Lorelai actually being there when Sherry delivers is so strange to me. Like, just so weird.
So weird. She was there for Rory. Yeah. Poor Rory. Like I do not want to be a part of this. What is going on?
Right. All right beyond the hospital. Let's fast forward. Emily invites Jess to dinner with her and Lorelai because Richard's away and then Lorelai ends up having plans. And he shows up late with a black eye. And I don't understand why he reacted the way he reacted. Or just like
make something up. You are a creative kid. Make something up? Don't just like of course, she's going to assume you got into a fight. Why at what else would we assume? Yeah. Anybody shows up with a black guy. It's like dang, who hate you.
Right? And she assumes it's Dean and I hate that later on. She goes and asks Dean
Oh, I hate it.
Like oh, mad girl yourself. Do you really trust the northern him you trust? Yeah.
Then why are you with him? Right? Oh, man. Okay, but what happens next, not related to them. I have to jump to the next part though, because it's like in the next episode or something. Is Beach, Paris.
I, Paris as of January, this point is
with Jamie and she has sex with him to verse I'm having sex, the whole thing. And it's at the same time we're everything's happening. Like, this is like a big season for like, okay, we're graduating, we're figuring out what college we're going to it's like waiting for the mail to show up, because that's how everybody wished, finding out that it wasn't an email, it was a letter in the mail that you would get from the colleges letting you know if you got in or not. And Paris finally got her letter. And she didn't get into Harvard, which is the school that she had, like, planned her whole life as well to go to. And she shows up after they had like a speech at the school. And she shows up looking a hot mess. Like she just rolled out of bed. Depressed, like pajamas, long card again, hair a mess. And she gives this speech and she's like, this school sucks. Sucks, but I'm not going to Harvard.
She's probably going to Harvard. She's never heard. I love that scene. And I I almost ever worried like, Oh, I almost feel like if, if you had been 1617 watching that show, it would have put it in your head. If I have sex. I'm not getting into
college. Yes. Right. Like, oh, crap.
Yeah, yep. Also, this is the same time that like, everyone is freaking out about how, how much they have to do to prepare the college like panel happens where Rory is Yes. She's like, Oh, I'm gonna write about Hillary Clinton. And then on the panel, they're like, Oh, those essays about Hillary Clinton. And I'm like, like,
if I have to read one more of those, like, oh, no, yeah. And
then she freaks out. I have a question. Did you freak out that much about applying to college?
Oh, we could have a whole nother episode about me in college in school, because that's just that's a trauma situation.
i Okay. I don't remember it being that. I remember being overwhelming just because there was like so much paperwork to fill out of, but I don't remember being like, okay, it's junior year, senior year, whenever I applied. And I have to like do all these extra things to make my resume look like I'm,
but I also wasn't going to go to an Ivy. I wasn't trying to go to Ivy. I was just trying to go to a local school. So yeah, I went to a private Christian college for a year that they'll let anybody into. And then I went to a jump to community college after that. So yeah, mine
was a it was a private in basically anyone gets in, like your, the way they funneled people out lists through scholarships have good grades, like, like my first year was paid for or first half year. I can't remember exactly. It was my first year was paid for. And then it was full tuition after that. It's how they get you in.
I remember it being a big deal. Like when I switched to a university. Yeah. I feel like it was just like, No, that's where you want to go. And they want to take your money. Cool. Yeah, basically, but again, not Ivy League schools. Yeah. So yeah,
I do remember being like, Yeah, I'm gonna go to Harvard.
No, I feel like I thought about it for a hot second. I was like, Oh, maybe I want to go to law school when I was like, 16, or whatever. And they took this like, law school class. And I was like, Nope, that's boring.
I took media law in college who were advertising and I mean, it was very educational. I learned a lot. Yeah, honestly. It's yeah, but if that was my every day, absolutely not. And my brother like he went to undergrad with the intent of going to law school. And he double majored in history and political science. And he was like, I don't think law schools for me by his senior year, he was like, I'm done with Yeah, I'll take a year off and see how I feel in a year. And he didn't go back. He's like, that's, that's not the life. Like I like the idea of it. But actually being sure No, no,
no, no, Poli Sci in history. That alone is heavy load.
If Yeah, not not for me. I like history now. I did not back then
hated history classes and college. Oh my god. I still don't like history though.
I like learning it in fun ways, like documentaries and movies. I don't like reading about it. I could care less no reading about it.
Yeah, I like a good one. Biography I'm here for a good biography or yeah, what is biography? And then there's autobiography. I'm
currently listening to the Eliza Hamilton book one of them. There's like 15. But I got very curious after seeing Hamilton and so I'm listening on like Spotify in case y'all don't know, Spotify offers free audiobooks. So I'm listening to that. One thing about that. Yeah, I did. I like listened to three books back to back, like use up my credits because you only get a certain amount a month. Okay, and then I had to wait, and then I forgot. And so I'm like, slowly. Yeah, when I think about it, I've been listening to him. But yeah, it's
like the weather is warming up here. And that's when I listen to audiobooks is like when I go out for a walk. Yeah. So yeah, I'm about to enter my walking girl. audiobook era. Yep,
yep. Okay.
We got over there. Jump back on track and what are the I feel like okay, what are like two more things you want to talk about with this season? Okay,
I definitely want to talk about the house party that happens. And probably graduation, like the whole Oh, no, no, no. I have three more things. Okay, let's talk about morning first target. Let's
Yeah, that house party.
So I, I don't know how I feel about it. Because, like, Jess, I don't like how he acted. But it was not about Rory in that moment. Like, there were so many other things if he had just opened up and told her what was going on, because it was right after he got kicked out of school. And he failed. And basically, he knew I can't take her to prom. I can't continue at Luke's house like I'm everything that I've been here for is now gone. And then he doesn't tell her. Yeah. And then she's like,
I mean, it makes sense. Why he doesn't tell her because, like,
I mean, look at his life and how he's grown up. It's not like he's had people that he can trust and like, easily open up to. Yeah. And I also is norm. I feel so bad for Rory in this moment, because she was like, for those that if you're not familiar with the scene, as we are because we've seen it 15,000 times. Basically just tries to seduce I guess is the right word.
He's like, let's have sex at this house party.
And she was ready. Like she had she was she told her mom that she was ready. And he decides to like start kissing and move make moves in a random bedroom and house party. And that's not ideal for any girl.
And no, and I don't think he like if he stopped and think about it, too. Like, he was just going because of emotions and being frustrated with something and it was something to distract him from currently going on. Yeah. And I think at the root of it, he never would have done that. And you see that too. Like, right? When she leaves the room. He's like, ah, gosh, I messed up. And then anything wrong, and she runs the dean.
Stupid Sue and then they fight and the fact that Lindsey stuck around with Dean after he got into a fight with Jess over his ex girlfriend. Are you kidding me? Girl? Are you kidding me?
Are you serious? This girl? I mean, but let's be honest. Yeah, they made this girl character dumber than rocks. Which
is so sad because I love her and John Tucker must die. That's like one of my favorite movies.
Oh, that's where I've seen her. Yeah,
she's like a super smart girl in that movie.
She is not in Gilmore Girls.
But then after that just leaves. And so sad. Oh, I do want to flag this. Sorry. I'm like, I have like 18,000 things I want to say. But I do not like this about the series. And this is all TV shows where they give a backstory and then they change the backstory later because just leaves town to go meet his dad, which we saw earlier. He met his dad very shortly. But when Jess first comes to town, Lucas like Yeah, a couple of years ago, his dad took off. And then it turns out his dad took off when Jess was born, like just never knew is that oh, do they say that? Yes. In the very before we ever even meet just because LAUREL I asked Where's his dad? And Luke says a couple years he took he took off a couple of years ago. So I thought that I don't like when shows don't stick to a story versus when in this season. They talk about Richard being engaged to panel and lot of And then later in the series we see penile unlock come back and they like kept that storyline and I loved that. Like I like when they do that, but when they're not intentional about keeping storyline straight, I don't like it. Yeah. Anyway, but if they kept storyline straight, we wouldn't have Kirk. That's true. That's true. Or they could just have to love MC or whatever it was
Kirkus. Okay, before we keep going with the Gilmore's, I want to jump to lane. And Dave real quick. Yes, we because Dave is like trying to win over lanes bomb and allow lane to like, date him and all these things. And the boy tries so hard. I mean, playing for their Christian group all the time and all these things. And then him which it's totally there's absolutely no way but like supposedly staying up all night, right? And all night long. And reading the Bible, there's no entire Bible. There's no way but it's so precious. And he shows back up at the door the next morning. He's like, I'm so tired.
Please just tell me I don't get how he's like, I'm gonna go search on the internet. Why did he not just type that in? Maybe it was the Internet back then. Not as like robust as it is today. But why did he not just type in what she said and find that it's not from the Bible? I
don't know because it's a TV does he say I'm gonna go check with the internet or doesn't you just say I'm gonna go
do some research he says I'm gonna go do some research check online. I rewatched the scene today.
Okay, check online. Yeah, yeah, cuz
yeah. Anyway, it's
so cute to like he is so into lane. It's so precious. Yeah, yeah, that's really sweet.
Speaking of him, though, real quick. Do we ever know when they break up? I don't feel like it ever says. I know I'm jumping ahead here went to college. Yes, but they're still together when he goes to college. But they know I don't. I'm gonna rewatch before our next episode or season
four we don't they just kind of say like, belong distanced and at work. I don't
even know if they say anything he can. No, I can't remember find out before the next episode. And yeah, have an update. But okay, graduation.
And graduation. Well,
I think prior to graduation is the scene where Rory tells her grandparents, she's going to Yale, not Harvard. And they're like, they're whatever. And then then they're like, get the champagne and all excited.
I'm gonna call my friend. Yeah. She's going to Gail. She's Yeah. Wendy. Gail.
I do really like that scene. I do. But I went and visited Gail.
Did you while we were on our trip? In our RV around the country. That's cool. Yep. I'm like, we have to go see Yale. Like, and we did like a little tour and everything. That's so yeah. It was fun.
It was fun. I've never never even thought about going to visit. But yeah, doesn't mean like the movie. The movie, the TV show.
No, no. It's cool campus though. And you would love this. So the way that they have their dorms set up. It's like they're in different houses. So the girl that was giving us the tour, she's like, you know, like in Harry Potter, how they have all the difference? Yeah, houses. She's like, we do that here. And then we do like games against each other at like, Yeah, that's really cute.
That's so exciting. I love that. All right, fast forward to graduation. I love that. Like the speech Rory gives. I don't know if I've said this on the podcast. I actually took us the like public speaking class and you had to choose a speech from a movie or like a monologue to give and I chose this one and my teacher cried Oh, and I gave it like no that yeah, I I cry every single time like it's such a good moving speech about her mom. I just I'm not blubbered your blubbery love that. They're
all crying. Oh, it's so sweet. Okay,
the last thing back to dreams that we talked about the very beginning of this episode. In the final episode, we see Lorelai go to the diner and tell Luke not to go on the cruise with Nicole. Yeah, well then, immediately after Luke wakes up as if that was a dream, and I've never realized that it could have been a dream until this time that I watched it because the way the scene goes is Lorelai and Rory are silhouette children. And they're going to she's like, come with me on to do one more thing. And then the scene cuts to Lorelai going into the diner and saying that Luke wakes up and then it's cut back to the scene where Lorelai and Rory are still at Chilton engraving things she never actually told him not to go on that cruise. That was Luke's dream. No, yes, go rewatch it. My mind was blown. I like rewound it because I've always thought that the sequence of the scenes was weird because how can Lorelai be it children and then at the diner, and then back at Chilton. Like, how have I never noticed that? I've always noticed that part, but never put it together. That the dream is weird. Go watch it after this episode. Like if you are listening in like, I've never seen that. Or maybe you're like a dog knows that from the beginning. I've watched I've watched Gilmore Girls, every year since at least 2013. Every single for 10 plus years, and I've never noticed it. Never. I guess when I'm watching it now I see things that I like I'm trying to be intentional about watching it. Yeah, go watch it. Okay. Well, I did on I ended on a mind blowing note. I'm seriously
I did not see that coming. Yeah. All the time when we're watching Jane the Virgin. I did not see that coming. And then the narrator has finally started to say it I did not see that coming. And I'm like, Oh, I knew this. If you need something else to go watch, because you're tired of watching Gilmore Girls are you're done watching it for this year? Yeah, watch Jane the Virgin Jane the Virgin. All right, friends.
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