I grew up in a place called Pilani. And there I actually lived in a campus. My father worked in an institution, at CSIR lab called C entral Electronics Engineering Research Institute. All my father friends and colleagues are all scientists, they were all building electronic systems. So this was my journey from age zero to 16 when I entered college. So it was very much like I enjoyed looking at what they were doing, they used to have annually an open house where they will sort of throw open and all of us will go. Of course, not when we were very young, but when we have definitely turned 7-8 years. We will see what are the type of things they are making in the lab. Finally, I ended up studying Electronics at BITS Pilani. And after I graduated, I had a chance to join IIT Delhi as a scientist. And that was a very important part of my journey, which actually finally took me to assistive technology. Though this lab that I worked on, was not an Assistive Technology Lab. So primarily this lab was working on defense, mostly on naval defense equipment. They were trying to indigenize many of the equipment in defense, which they were actually importing at that time, from Russia, UK, and so on, so forth. But I started my career not just by building prototypes, but actually building systems and which we had to install and show that it actually works on the ships very difficult environment, both working in ships and testing them on ships. But this was part of my PhD journey. And that gave me a very different outlook in life. So I always like to do things which finally start working in the field. How did I get into assistive technology was a very, very chance meeting with Dipendra Manocha. Dipendra met me and at that time, he wanted a screen reader for Emacs. Emacs screen readers at the time were not available. And initially, my journey was very sort of not really direct involvement, I just used to get some project students and introduce them to Dipendra and Dipendra would actually give them some projects. And my job was to just to broadly supervise them, give them the grade so that you know they are happy, and they work on the projects. But the smartcane change all of it. So these smartcane, on board and dot book, these three, in principle, have the potential of being revolutionary.