I just putting myself out there. I mean, to be honest, I'm wasn't afraid of putting myself out there. The worst that could happen is they ignore me, which many did, because they don't know who this mom in Virginia reaching out about this event that's never taken place before. Like, what? I wasn't surprised. So my feelings weren't hurt, right? If somebody said no, because they didn't even know who I was. But once people started saying, Yes, I mean, gosh, what a thrill. Your adrenaline just goes through the roof. And then once I was able to get even just a few people, like once I had for people who had written books, or were hosting podcasts that everybody else knew in this space, I mean, the cyberspace, it's a small space. So you know, I could name drop, and I was like, Well, you know, I've got so so and so. And then people wanted to be a part of it. So my reach, you know, was significant with the amount of collectively I was using their audience, right, because I didn't have my own. So I was using the reach of all the speakers that attended, and I even had a few big speakers that are so well known in the space. Not enough that they cost money, those ones I didn't, I didn't do anybody who like actually was like, that'll be $15,000 for me to join them. And I'm going, No, I can't do that. But I had a few people who were so big in the space, they wouldn't promote it. And I thought, that's okay, I reached out in your Facebook group. And I was like, what do you do in this scenario?