So we surrendered this meaning to you now as Jesus name we pray, amen.
Amen. Man, thank you. Thanks so much. And it doesn't know the condition.
recording in progress.
Chairman Brian Ferguson, your district one vice chair and he holds submitted an excused absence Commissioner Willie bell for some district for Michigan Linda Barnard
attorney Linda Barnard district to welcome everyone.
Commissioner Willie Burton. Commissioner Lisa Carter, Commissioner Hernandez on fire Hazel Fernandez. Commissioner Jim Holly. Commissioner Ricardo more indicated that he will be joining us late. Commissioner quantas Presley here Commissioner Cedric banks.
We do have a quorum. Thank you. Great. Awesome. I like to have the approval for the agenda for May 4 2023. Second, any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. All opposed. That agenda has been approved. approval for the minutes for April 27 2023. Second, any corrections or any discussion? Hearing none all in favor? Aye. All oppose. Those minutes are approved. Madam Secretary introduction of the OPC staff.
Thank you Mr. Chair for the OPC staff. We have cheap investigator Jerome Walker with us, along with Mr. Robert Brown. In the streets of Boston. We have attorney Adam Saxby with us as well as parliamentarian Dr. Francis Jackson. This Kansas Hayes VPD HR director Katrina Costello is joining us via zoom. Our sign language interpreters are Misha pada and Jackie Thompson. handysize is our court reporter. Media Services is providing the video and Sergeant Alan Quinn is providing audio. Thank you.
I'll see you sitting in who's who Yeah.
Good. Afternoon, Deputy Chief Mark Willis.
You have a student
from the department. I have a special project and policy liaison, Marcellus Kibby the second and I believe the rest of our union officials. And
thank you, Madam secretary and elected officials President orange.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have Mr. De Butler community relations president for second precinct. This summary overall of state rep has benefited Tyrone Carter's office, Mr. Bobby Lawrence two assistants to the state Speaker of the House dotate. We also have District Four CAC members Scotty Bowman, Ron Thomas, VP of DPLA. And former Police Commissioner William Davis.
Awesome. Yeah, yes.
Like what an honor I'd like to make sure that the union representatives are recognized if you don't mind.
If we can have as you introduce yourselves, if you can please step up to the microphone. So that we can hear you as well please.
association with me, I
have Keith Baker from the Grievance Committee. The Vice President command Officers Association.
Awesome as it gets, Mr. Chairman. Chairman, yes. I like to listen to Bobby Lawrence to stand up as the speaker said Oh, eight was the first African American Speaker of the House, the state of Michigan. And I just want to recognize him again, that the Speaker of the House is represented by Mr. Lawrence, thank you so much for joining welcome.
Thank you. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker, the house. She'll
be here one day. Next week. We'll get them here. All right. Fantastic. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. That's it. All right. My report had already been sent last week. And I'm gonna echo those sentiments from last week. I'll need to really get into it. Alright. Just be respectful. That's all I'm asking. That's all as bold as heck. That's what the citizens are asking. That's why my phone right here is blowing up with texts. I read some of these. Unbelievable. Are we on the right path? This board is on the right path. But once again, be respectful. We already know what we did wrong, but we're trying to correct that's what we so please help us out with constructive criticism. Please, constructive criticism. Right? So we can help if you if you have something that we did wrong and tell us how we can do better. Bring it on. On the stand we ask the citizens to write down five things. I hope that person send them in so we can have the five things that we're doing wrong and then we can do I would love to see it. Now that we have a resolution for Oh wait. Um, I want to say welcome to our new Chief Investigator, Terrell Warfield. We're gonna hear more from him. So we're gonna try and have a board secretary in place. We have our chief investigator in place, and we have eight investigators, new investigators. And I'm trying to get to more. And listen, once we get our board says, board lawyer, law department lawyer will be complete, along with a couple of staff that we really need. But we're working hard. I heard your cries and I've been pushing this board, make those cries wipe away. That's what I've been trying to do. Alright, so now we have a resolution for Sergeant Willie slipped the chair,
a resolution honoring Sergeant Willie Smith, whereas Willie Smith was appointed to Detroit Police Department on January the fall of 1994. Upon graduating from the Detroit Metropolitan Police Academy, Officer Smith began his career at the 13th precinct. And whereas Austin Smith spent several years at the 13th precinct Metro Division and robbery Task Force. Officer Smith spade displays tremendous knowledge and leadership skills as an officer and was promoted to the rank of investigator on August 11 2000. Investigators Smith's assignments included a special response team and headquarters surveillance unit. Investigator Smith was promoted to the rank of sergeant on May 4 2001. Sergeant Smith's assignments including narcotics central district investigative Operations Division, fifth precinct detective unit, and prisoner processing unit at narcotics. And whereas Sergeant Smith was a deserving recipient of following awards for the NFL, both for the recognition award Rosa Parks general recognition award the LD All Star baseball Recognition Award, inclusion of the conditions of confinement consent judgment award for fireworks celebration awards, whose chief unit awards and several accolades from within the department and from other agencies and citizens causes professionalism and expertise and whereas Sergeant Smith has tirelessly served the Detroit Police Departments the citizens of Detroit and its neighboring communities for 28 years. He has served the Detroit Police Department and the citizens of the city of Detroit with loyalty, professionalism, integrity and dedication and it is widely respected excuse me, and it is why was respected throughout the law enforcement community as the consummate professional now therefore be resolved at the Detroit board of police commissioners speaking on behalf of the citizens of the great city of Detroit recognizes and honor the long lifelong contributions and commitment of excellence in public service as Sergeant Willie Smith. He displayed of courage his display of courage and unwavering community spirit has improved the quality of life for the citizens of Detroit. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. We thank and congratulate you starting Willie Smith. Chair I move that this resolution be accepted as read in place in the records of Detroit board of police commissioners.
Second, all in favor, aye. Aye. All those Oh, that will be already embedded into our records. Job well done, sir. Police Department and take it from here. Thank you, um critical incident debriefing. Will that be as commissioner
will do the first one?
Commissioner president on tag team. Thank you.
This week, ladies and gentlemen. The board was invited to a confidential debriefing by the Office of the Chief athlete debriefing I attended both do briefings. The first debriefing relates to the Greektown incident which many of you saw on television. The second debriefing related to quarter was his first first, the young man who was shot when I'm sorry, shot multiple times who had a knife in his hand a small knife 3.5 inch blade by five police officers. My colleague is going to report on on that and I may, I may provide some backups as well. But in any event, his parents are the critical incident he breathes that I want to share with you. The briefing was held on May 1, two o'clock in the Chiefs Conference Room. President or myself, our Vice Chair Miss Holt and Victoria Shaw our board secretary. This is what our understanding is what was verbally communicated to us by VPS leadership. And as I said the Chief was there and several of his deputy chief of course with legal counsel. This is what happened in Greytown that two groups began to fight for an unknown cause during which time a suspect in wave hands you have to remember there's two suspects here. One grey pants and one in purple pants. So right now we're talking about grey pants. wave hands produces a handgun. A person in the opposing group, they were just coming out of a restaurant first and the opposing group attempts to take the hands on from the suspect to neutralize the situation. But another suspect in purple shorts, who was the main group as the suspect in grey pants steps forward with another hand gun and fires multiple shots. fatally striking the person that was attempting to take the gun away from from grape pants and also shootings to bystanders? I guess multiple was coming out of Buffalo Wild Wings here okay. Except the person that lives of course they only killed by purple pants on you by officers who were all over the scene. I actually as you've if you've been on a Greytown you know that they're police officers everywhere. You hear my officers respond to the gunshots immediately. You can hear them ever no silencers or anything like that. And they was chasing the suspect and purpose she was into a nearby parking garage. Suspect in purple shorts. His cover behind a parked black Mazda, with the driver inside and pointed the gun at the approaching officer. To me it was the most dramatic scene of all the video that we saw. Officer was standing I'm gonna just show you with his with his legs open like this with his gun like this. At the at the assessment you're getting into them either on the other side of the car. The car is here. Officer here. Suspect getting into the car on the other side. His legs are wide open his gun is clearly aimed at that point. He did not he did not shoot the suspect. Yet. The suspect had a gun as well. Another officer shot the suspect in the arm coming from the other direction and the bullet went from his arm into his thigh. So he was I guess some sort of like a flesh wound. Anyway, the the officer who decided not to kill him at that point, of course then he's he's going to other officers. The black miles chased off down the road. He he then the driver in the black Mazda who appears obviously to have been with the guy in the purple shorts. Drives immediately to the St. John's Hospital. Where he gets here he gets that he drops this guy off. The Bat has been shot purple shorts and you speeds away. We found the Mazda later but it was like a stolen car or something and that was what happened. But I want to at this point, just pause for a moment to congratulate the officer who really could have shot him multiple times and he didn't do it. And obviously we waited another helicopter over here so we knew exactly where the black Miles was going. We saw it go to the St John's Hospital. So the stuffs back in great pains is followed by officers into the garage. Under this is the other one other guy and it's apprehended in a Kia Soul. A 40 caliber handgun just recovered from the back of the Kia released it. It's fine 140 caliber casing at the scene so legally he believes this gun was fired at least once a 40 caliber gun can stop and elephant as their big heavy gun that used to see you know and in movies and stuff. It's a huge gun. It's not a nine millimeter or anything like that, obviously was later found a Mazda abandoned on a Detroit street with no weapon inside. There's two bystanders have been treated for their injuries released from the hospital and are recovering. No officers were injured in the accident. The suspect in grave hands was on a federal supervised release and is now facing a felon in possession of a firearm warrant by the FBI by the US Attorney's Office. The Wayne County prosecutor declined to issue a warrant on the suspect and purple shorts. he relayed DPD says Wayne County prosecutor is synonymous with the identification. If he is contrasting as they say this was the suspect with fire the fatal shot. They could make out who it was the arrest is done by the inmate. We couldn't distinguish really whether that was the correct person, but the chief is leading this fight it was with him where these officers just tried to show them the same information that we have obviously and to get a warrant issued for that person. The as I said the bystanders were conveyed to the hospital prosecutor we're really just trying to issue a warrant for the officers DPE citing no policy violation EPD preliminary Administrative Review anticipates no policy violations by the officers. In other words, we create the policies for the police department. And so an officer officer is subject to discipline by us by the sheer fact they violate policy. That whole video demonstrated zero policy deviations by our by our police officers. Our next steps are to monitor when he citizen complaints filed in relationship to the incident and I'm sure there will be some to request an official report from the Wayne County prosecutor regarding the warrants decisions on the officers and the suspects. Because we really want to know why. I there's some you know some confusion about really what happened when I was really on video and there were there was no warrant issued because a second suspect. We want to share more information, including visual aids with the public and the LPC receives them. And then finally, we welcome any questions from the public that we can that we can follow up on as we contribute to as we continue hardly need to follow the sense today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you. You mentioned the person.
Thank you as has been stated this is the critical incident debriefing on the quarter bursts. officer involved shooting. Now we have had three of these deep briefings and it may seem that there is a continuation of officer involved shootings. But let's be reminded that this one is actually from October of last year, but as a result of community concerns and concerns lifted by the commissioners, the Border Police Commissioner we were invited to a debriefing with the sheet to review the video again and what we were able to observe visual aids that were the videos from various angles in edits to show the raw footage including the shooting, and our distance and time are calculated. We understand that some of this information may seem daunting or repeated what it has already been provided to us publicly through the sheets press conference, but again as a result of what has been requested to public comment and from commissioners at our board meeting, we were shown the remaining footage and the blog wants to share with the community up to this point all that we know and what you should expect next. So 20 minutes prior to arriving on the scene. A DP had approximately a 10 minute conversation initiated by the family where it was explained that Mr. Porter bursts was having a mental health crisis and had been violent, slashing his brother's tires and was armed with a knife and that the brother had the intentions to have just a burst petition that night. When officers arrived on the scene. Just the work was slowly pacing in the middle of the street. With a knife in hand. For Crisis Intervention An officer led the discussion with Mr. Burke with discharge and also speaking to Mr. Berg occasionally CIT officer and just starting at Mr. Burke's repeatedly dropped the knife. It was shared as a column high DPD that they asked a number of 14 times for Mr. Burgess to drop the knife, but he declined. Like they also asked him not to walk closer to sit down. They offered him help and told him that he was not in trouble and Mr. Burke's did not comply and repeatedly responded that he would like to hold the knife and that he wanted to go to DRH and wanted to rest. There was a lot of talking that can be heard in the area and on the radios including orders to the units not to approach cetera as a sergeant is heard saying that he is going to get his car and that was assume because he wanted to put the car has a barrier between Mr. Berg and the officers as a tactical exercise. The sergeant walks away from the scene of behind the officers towards the car and is that that moment as he is walking towards the car, which is about five minutes and Mr. Bursts first starts to walk further away from the officers and then turns and starts running towards a CIT officer with a knife. By this time there were a total of seven officers on the scene. Plus the sergeant one officer deployed his Taser which did not take effect while five officers fired their weapons. Charging a total of 38 rounds in 11 rounds from this it officer is just the birds was struck by 19 rounds based on DPS calculations. Just the Burke was 40 to 30 feet away from the officer running from starting to run to the last shot fired is took three seconds you're gonna want to make sure clear from the point that he started to run. So when the last shot was fired was a total of three seconds. Mr. Burke once you fail, he reached approximately five feet in front of the officers so he started off what are the 30 Excuse me 40 to 43 feet away. At the moment that his body hit the ground he was only five feet away from the officers. Officers immediately rendered medical aid. However Mr. Berg succumbed to his injuries and no officers were injured in this Lane County prosecutor declined to issue a Werthers EPD citing no vital policy violation for the use of force and BPD preliminary administrative review as completed, anticipating the force was used and things with the policies, but they are now awaiting approval and review from Chief white status of the footage release and always been asked a number of times that the entire video we release but body worn camera footage of events leading up to when the first shots began was actually released to the public on October the fourth two days after the incident. At that time the edited videos for the purposes of calculating distance and time were not yet developed. All footage will be released per for your request. After administrative findings are fooled by she excuse me apply she faced DPE estimates one to two weeks or DPD for courage has not been released so far because it is part of the evidence in the open investigation, including the edited videos used to measure time and distance. The border police commissioners next step is obviously to continue to request the immediate release of the full footage to monitor for any city complaints filed in relation to this incident to request and an official report from the Wayne County prosecutor's office regarding the warrant decision and to share more information including visual aids with the public as the board of police commissioners received them. We also welcome any additional questions or comments from the public eye that might aid us as we continue to follow in this incident. That's the conclusion of the report.
My dad this incident happened in October six months ago. I personally asked questions at the meeting. And my colleague knows that I am totally distressed if you will by the fact that this video footage should have been released to the public. They have a right to know every major city in the country where there has been an incident of a person being shot by the police that any incident contain video that video has been released to the community. We are the citizens we have a right to that information. It is not for a conference room and and upstairs in the police office that is wholly in my opinion inappropriate and a violation, quite frankly, of most of the department and and the Board's policy regarding transparency. Furthermore, for me and I listened to the whole thing I think that the guy that was from CCI, or whatever it's called Venture had like a real strong command and control voice. You will have to drop the gun. I mean, it was not the kind of tone another guy had a better tone and you know that's true in terms of addressing someone in a crisis, it was like pushing and it was apparently authoritative, way, way, way too strong in my opinion, to coach somebody to give up give up the guy and then finally five to one. And so this boy shot 19 times is unacceptable to me. It's unacceptable. To me that that level of lethal force had to be used to disarm a person with five people even if it was five girls and one person does I don't accept it, my colleagues.
Thanks chair just by my observation. Again, you know the loss of life. It's always unfortunate, and we tried to do our best as a oversight board to ensure that our officers and police departments are operating within policy and procedure. I just want it to be noted I know that he's been said that the video has not been released. But as his report suggested video was released two days after the incident. The video that we saw in the press conference from the sheets sapped at the moment that sort of Earth's receivable and dropped to the ground. This is a video that I didn't interrupt the video that was shown to us in extinction, if I did some calculations did for police department actors to ensure stunts that was was the only additional footage from the body worn camera the very same body worn camera footage that she shows two days after the incident because the very same body worn camera footage that we were shown in this critical debriefing with the exception of allowing us to witness the Mr. Burke's fall to the ground.
Absolutely. I saw the same exact thing. And the public saw it and I saw the detail part about it yesterday. So Commissioner Presley is correct. The public has seen this video. Yeah. And that's what I've been doing. Are we gonna move on? Chief Deputy Chief?
That afternoon? Yes. I'm going to start with some notes for the for appointment that will come shortly after. I don't believe that it's on the agenda. But it is in my my handouts. So I'd like to move forward with it after. So I'll first start with an update on our engine members. We currently three members of the department who are disabled and recovering at home due to an injury. One is the police officer from the precinct. One is a police officer from the seventh precinct, and one is a police officer from the 11th precinct crime data. As of May 3 homicides you have 80 years to date as compared to 79 at the same time in 2022. That's a 1% change. Non fatal shootings. Currently we're at 226. Last year we were at 217. That's a change of 4%. Robberies this year rent for 33. Last year we were at 410 for a change of 6%. And then final total Part One violent crime year to date for 2023 We have 3864 to last year's of 3646 was 6% increase overall. Moving on to the drag racing, drifting enforcement that we had April 28 through the 30th. We investigated 33 people. We did 33 traffic stops. We issued nine traffic citations. We investigated three vehicles. We impounded two we had two felony arrests and our total stats year to date for the drag racing and drifting enforcement since March of March 24 2023 At this time you have 221 people investigated 142 traffic stops 82 Such traffic citations issued 159 vehicles investigated, eight vehicles were impounded. One stolen vehicle was recovered. We had 10 felony arrest, two misdemeanor arrests and we and we recovered four weapons. At this point we on to the mental health related calls for service for the last seven days. We've had 361 mental health related calls for service. The total calls for service year to date is 5331 as opposed to 2022 1661 According to one that you've reached out early homicide update on the doctor. On Sunday, April 23, officers were dispatched to the 150 block of West Boston to investigate a call to service or a wellbeing check. Upon arrival at the location, officers observed evidence to cause concern with the occupants well being. Officers made entry into the property and discovered the victim's body hidden in a crawlspace wrapped in sheets. The victim suffered a gunshot wound to the head. Texas from Homicide Unit arrived at the scene and began the investigation to stop date. The detectives collected evidence and followed up on investigative leads related to the case, enabling them to make an arrest on April 27 2023. The suspect was investigated and released pending further investigation. The Detroit police department is asking the community for assistance with information regarding this incident. Anyone with additional information is asked to contact Crimestoppers at one 800 SpeakUp Incident Number Three homicide I fatal stabbing on Wednesday, April 26 2023. Officers were dispatched to the 16,000 block of Dexter for investigate a call for service or a person stabbed. officers arrived at the scene and observe the victim lying on the porch semi conscious with a stab wounds to the chest. Officer the admin administered medical assistants until medics arrived. The victim was transported to a local hospital where he was immediately rushed into surgery. However, the victim succumbed to the injury. Officers interviewed witnesses at the scene and it was determined that a large fight occurred at the location and accumulate coins a suspect a female family member of the victim stabbed the victim in the chest as a suspect was arrested at the scene. Taxes from the homicide unit submitted a warrant to the Wayne County prosecutor's office for review on April 27. However, the warrant was returned for additional work to be completed. The homicide unit is working diligently to complete the requested task to reissue the warrant. Anyone with information regarding this incident is asked to contact Crimestoppers at one 800
SpeakUp
it's the number four so homicide one fatal and one non fatal. On Sunday, April 13. Officers were dispatched to the 8000 block a smart to investigate a call for service for shooting. On arrival at the location. Officers observed a female lying in the street suffering from a gunshot wound to the chin. The healer was pronounced dead at the scene by medics. Officers received information that a second female was shot but left the scene before they arrived. The second victim was eventually discovered at Beaumont Hospital and pronounced in his temporary serious condition with a gunshot wound to the right shoulder. He had visits from the homicide unit arrived at the scene and began the investigation and received information from witnesses that a large fight occurred involving the victims and a female suspect. After the fight the female suspect to see destroy vehicles retrieved a handgun and shot the victim's suspect left the location and a black SUV after the shooting shortly thereafter, the detectives received a call from linkin park police dispatch, dated seem to call for service from a female space she was assaulted on smart street during a fight and fired her weapon in self defense. Check those determines a suspects location with Linkin Park Police and arrested a suspect. On Tuesday, May 2. He's from the homicide unit. We're preparing a warrants to be submitted to the Wayne County prosecutor's office for review. The Detroit police department is asking anyone with additional information regarding this incident to contact Crimestoppers at one 800 SpeakUp
isn't it five fatal shooting.
On Sunday, April 30. Officers were dispatched to investigate a call to service in the 14,000 block of Greenlawn for a person shot. officers arrived at the scene and observe the female standing on the porch of the location. The female stated to the officers that she shot the suspect after he attached her during a domestic dispute. The officers entered the location and observed the victim lying on the ground with a gunshot wound to the chest. The victim was declared dead at the scene by Metis. suspect was arrested at the scene on Tuesday, May 2. He texted us from the homicide unit. We're preparing a war to be submitted to the Wayne County prosecutor's office for review. The Detroit police department is asking anyone with additional information regarding this incident. To contact Crimestoppers at one 800 Speak up. Additional information on Tuesday, May 2 And Wednesday May 3. She sought us met with the board with the BMC board secretary and if you commissioners in regards to the porter Brooks shooting and efforts to continue the department's transparency again this was what was reported out earlier by the board
positas
Walk a Mile Wednesday police Fourth Precinct on Wednesday May 3 Chief white along with the fourth creasing how to walk a mile Wednesday, attendees gathered at 5:30pm at the Detroit Mexican international Welcome Center located at 2835 Bagley street, and they began the walk at six o'clock pm Walk a Mile Wednesday represents the department's obligation to fitness and is instrumental in maintaining the relationship between law enforcement and the community and your day of community prayer event. Today, May 4 at 11am to destroy police Chaplain corps held the day of community prayer as the Detroit Public Safety headquarters prayers you know 1/3 Chief white members of DPW Chaplain corps and local clergy spoke at the event and said a prayer for the city of Detroit. The event was streamed on dpbs Facebook page
reinstatements.
On Thursday, May 4, three reinstated officers were sworn in by Chief white. We now have a total of 32 officers who have returned to the department from various agencies Yes, interfaith memorial service. On Friday, May 5 DPD. Chaplain corps will hold the validity of interfaith memorial service at Old St. Mary's Church located at 646 Monroe Street event, which will honor the lives of first responders who made the ultimate sacrifice while serving their communities will begin with a presentation of hollers at eight o'clock AM and the memorial service will begin at 9am. speakers at the event will include sheep white VPS, Chaplain corps members and local clergy. Practice following the service will be held at the Del Mar Detroit Sports Bar located at 501 Monroe Street. And that is my briefing. I know it was a bit long, but I wanted to make sure that the board got every bit of information
on these events. Okay. Always always want to say thank you.
I just got a few.
I'm hearing about the Chicago Police Department cat and a lot of criminals right, but only for them to be returned back into our our
neighborhood. Because Wayne
County prosecutor's office we're gonna write it up right about
this. How about
asking the Wayne County prosecutor's office? Okay. Do you want us to write this stuff so he can check that? Because obviously, what you just told me why wouldn't I want to prosecute after that? I mean, you just gave me the last one all in paper, but you just told me that ain't good enough. So let's maybe let's ask them what do you guys need from India will you do check all those boxes? panettone no more? Yes. Sir. I mean, certainly that would be pretty simple for them because all the paperwork you guys write up but it would say nope, I'm not good enough. I'm like, What do you got on Washington? You know, so it's got to be some holding their hand. Right? Um, the second one cars. In reports, can you have them? Find out? How many cars that got towed away and how many of them are repeat offenders with the same car back out on the street and the ones that we empower? How many I mean, I know that you get
them back. Wow.
That'd be some kind of repercussions towards that, you know? Because it's like a slap on the wrist. When you're doing that. And then you get caught doing that making something like that dangerous street shouldn't be allowed to have that cop that when you didn't have one, but not that one. Um, that's all I have.
Thanks. Oh, yes. Deputy she certainly was here. This year. Every she listens to your deputies. You see a warrant needed to be returned back to the prosecutor's office because the lack of information in the prosecutor, someone's just saying the prosecutor is given his the worn out information that was enough all to Detroit Police Department, and what needs to be completed without warrant without warrant was not a complete, completed what needed to be completed with a warrant? Are you allowed to say that Deputy Chief through the chair
so I'll unpack this a little bit more. Because our our investigators do a phenomenal job. And they put wonderful warrants together. But that doesn't mean that every time a warrant is submitted that that we check all the boxes. Sometimes there's additional questions that, you know, maybe a third party would ask because we're still involved. With the investigation. Don't dress or don't put in there. Or maybe there's something that he just didn't think about. And I think that's what's good with that is that we have somebody else this to kind of look at and say, you know, did you look at this did you look at that. So it's not necessarily negative like we left something out it could be that they're just requesting additional information in order to you know, just to substantiate the warrant even more. So I don't want the board to think that it's it's something negative. It's back and forth communication, and I firmly believe that it makes a stronger investigation and overall, a strong case so and when it comes to exactly what is missing. Each investigation is different, and I wouldn't be able to exactly tell you what it is, because it varies. So but I can I can definitely tell you that warrants that we submit are thorough, and we've tried to run all the bases on on everything. We've got probably the best investigators in the state of Michigan, if not the
nation. They're pretty cheap. I just want you to know I didn't I didn't mean it wasn't meant in a negative way. I just want you to give me a little bit more clarity and understanding because when a prosecutor issues a warrant out, you would normally think that everything is up to par. I'm all set. Mr. Chair, go ahead
and record a record. I'm going to state that mission and Burton has entered the meeting. Unless you have
no questions of course
that was a good laugh. You know. I guess the public is eating popcorn right now. Right. But anyway, on on the behalf of the citizens of the Schrade sheep I'm requesting to see though the portable video next week Thursday at any at any available time that the department is can set that up for me. Am requested to see not only the video but I'm also requesting to see here the audio so I like to see that like your audio along with the video. Gonna be half as great and wake up every day in poverty.
And
I'm available either in the morning or afternoon at any time that the department can make
that available. Thank you. For the record.
All commissioners got that invite, correct? That's correct, Mr. Chair. So all the commissioners got that invite that critical incident video, every single condition again. So everyone should have been tackled
commissioners. Point of order, Mr. Chairman, I'm requesting to see it at a at a date. That's convenient for my schedule. As a commissioner, this isn't 100,000 People that live in history. I am flexible with the department or I'm thirsty. If thirsty doesn't work for the department. Then I will make myself less supple. For Friday I will clear my calendar I'm requested to see the video along with hearing the audio.
We'll make that happen. We make that happen, sir. Well, Mr. Hawley I don't have faith in you, sir.
The citizens of Detroit have a few requests that I'm making to the sheet sauce
thank you so much for your report. Ended up being able to just to go over this but the doctors body found because it take him from the bottom to the attic or was it found like he started adding
to the share? I would really so there's some points of the investigation that we're working through. And I would rather keep it keep it to the investigation right now as we move forward on it, but I'm sure at a later date that information will be released to you and the Lord
will have the same water probably indicates she had been
requested
a lot of things that barbers know that she tried to get in and nobody and nobody fathered up. If you want me to help you with that, I'd
be happy to do that. Through the Chair please.
Yes. Let me ask you this. I have not been really no no. No blame on anyone but I want to know this whole thing about if you get caught with a gun, you get two years. I did ask him this board for about a year. So where are we with that? Because like to me that a lot of this discharge this gunplay is the people do not have license to the guns. And at some point or another we used to have a strong advertisement in terms of the consequences if you get caught with a gun, and it's legal to yours and I just feel like you know we got an alien on the size. We right where we were a year ago, which means we're most likely the night and then January the first we'd be right where we were a year ago based on where we're going. Because when you talk about and there's balance all over the place all over this country. But but I've never seen it in Detroit where we talked about multiple women, children. Not just not people just coming back from prison, but basically children and women. I just feel like I need to know if I could do this to the chair to the secretary. I need to know where are we with this. This campaign about when you get caught with a gun illegally. What happens you do you put on a talent is that enter somehow some kind of way we got to address this. And I'm not saying that. I don't want to be I don't want to be a broad brush. But as a minister and a person that this oversight and all this other stuff that we say we are it's just it's done the acceptable to go on day in and day out. When you wake up in the morning but to tell you and the first thing we hear is multiple shootings. And I'm just asking you, do you sit you here in the chair and through the chair to the secretary? I like to know where are we are all reporting or where we are in terms of the pick up the pancake. The Count. Thank you so much campaign in regards to the consequences when you get caught with a gun illegally.
Who to cheer. And I just clarify, Commissioner Holly's request are you looking for a report that shows the rate at which an individual is arrested for a weapon the rate at which they are that were they're being convicted?
Is that what you're you know I'm I'm rebel emotions now. So let me just say anything this base is going to help me to explain to the community and to my Congress, that what we're doing to to have some effect on going back and I just feel like main thing is we were just putting tellers on them and they shouldn't work the teller are we basically are they going to jail? I don't hear nobody going to jail for violating them again. And I know in this period of time that the many people feel like this is it's not it's not good for poor people. Not good for African Americans not good for the inner city and all this kind of stuff. But I got 80 homicides here at and and we put a lot of this with at least opposites killings will be going on we'll be we'll be going through the roof. But I got three computation with police officers, which is something I don't like. I really don't like ad homicides in my community and growing. I'm just asking you whatever you think I want in lead. That's why I voted for you to be the secretary who helped me
who's chair I'll work on that. So
let me let me see if I can help Help. Help. Here a little bit. A while ago, there was a campaign going on about
drinking and driving.
Because it got so out of hand. If you saw this commercial, it showed a young man going to the rooftop to get ready to get in his car. And when he got in his car thing. Officer pops up. Better on tow truck driver pops up. Later on. The lawyer pops up right after that showed exactly how much money he was gonna be out of. Just because he decided to get in his car. Said I showed everybody getting paid. I'm telling you right now curriculum didn't slow down didn't stop without big time. We have people driving you home yet. At the time models and lift it was Uber I think came to pick you up you were at some of the bars will take you home as you got too drunk. Right? I had a bus he used to take you home we'll take
you to a place you can call it somebody drinking and driving. Slow down.
Yes What could showing that commercial you ever seen that commercial sense?
Because it was working? Part McLean.
She put something together. You got caught hijacking. You got five years right off the RIP with the gun. And then because it was a violent crime with the car jack and you had x money years with that
any ran not together.
So after you did five years with the gun, you're gonna do X amount of years because you tried to take somebody's car with that guy. carjacking? Oh,
you look at the numbers.
I've talked to says they say when they caught somebody in the car with a gun and drugs. They all cop to the drugs. Those are my drugs. They were almost fighting over. Any mother knows my drug because they know for the drugs and when it can go a little bit of time before the gun they go on five years right off the bat. So I think what Reverend Holly and I'm trying to say is we need a campaign. We need to flood the airwaves. We need people to help us. You actually need to notice your house when I was growing up. The news is going thing kind of 11 o'clock. You know your
children will All right. Let's get back to them.
I don't mind you reporting out the news. You say you got shots today overall. Let's go X amount of time. Let's get back to that.
Let's try to see if
that works. And maybe they'll think twice
about doing something. This is me.
And I think that's a Harley. Listen The car has entered the building welcome
Commissioner Carter listener
in response to what has been said Mr. Chairman, you and Reverend Holly, I'd like to point out and even put on a photo of our boys center that 80% of homicides, those 80 people you're talking about? The people who know each other well, husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, mom and my man is that kind of atmosphere but you know what? You make mad so then I've decided that I'm going to shoot you so isn't anything that can be done. In my opinion as a lawyer in force face. I don't have any stake that label to stop homicides. They are done as sometimes your officiously sometimes when they're swinging you can poison a person or sometimes with a gun or with a knife. So homicide is part of human nature to kill your enemy or who you perceive is your enemy who you because you've lost control now we've we've dissected it as a community, I'm very happy about that, because of the emotions that are involved in terms of mental illness that may be involved all of these things, but only people who really know each other very well. As you said, Mr. Chairman, prosecutor and and I guess I take some umbrage to that, in the sense that the prosecutor is an elected official, they have a job to do. They prosecute cases where the facts weren't clear that there has been a violation of the law. That is not a determination made by the police, that the police's job is in their lane. They enforce the law according to our policies and attorney to the statutes that are on the books. When when the police right up it then it goes to the prosecutors, just like government really have three branches of government. You have the legislative branch, you're getting executive branch, you have the judicial branch. Anyway and when the particular makes the decision to prosecute or the past few years officers, five of which a person and sat COVID-19 made him Swiss cheese, they made that decision. Now, we all know that but when they made the decision to not prosecute a person in the community, they should also be respected for that decision. So I mean, we this is an emotional topic. This is emotional for me. It's emotional for everyone in this room like we're all citizens, but I also think we have to we have to be cognizant of what our role is. If the prosecutor said there's no case, there's no case, that's not our job to evaluate the bullet holes, the best of that, decide if there's a case. They said no, no case. So you know, sort of data on them and all the final points on this issue of guns and I'm gonna call this your attention. Deputy she a 21 year old harming last Monday, as he was another guy on the phone another kid that I know, and he said he had been arrested with a gun. Okay, well, that's the word of God. He's never had any trouble. Oh, my mother never had been in trouble. They never did anything wrong. She told me actually call me about this. This two separate cases. I'll tell you the first case the first person to call me was a young boy who's a fighter. He's well known. He's He's well known in the community. He said he was going to his sister's birthday party didn't have as hard as always, who's walking into it? well dressed and everything we had on cardio glasses with a little diamond on the nose. And so he took him down with him because he didn't want to get jacked on the street for his glasses. And I clearly this kid was eligible and could have gotten a permit to care. Nobody said no, no, no police encounters no foul. And there's another case number two, the one that call me Monday. 21 year old boy works 12 hours a day. has a gun. He said in his neighborhood. There have been three shootings in the last three weeks, two weeks, whatever. You think that he carries the gun to protect himself. Lovely high school graduate eyes kid works 12 hours a day. I don't know why he does that. Anyway, he said that when he called to go and get his license to carry like any of us in this room hoods. The office was only open from nine to three. They have no weekend hours or anything like that. He said, I've tried to go good, but I couldn't. And I couldn't do it because of my work and because of my work schedule. But so that particular day, he's the one he's going to want to work and he gets stopped by the police. I forgotten what the process was, was a stop. I might even show the head probable to stop him or investigate him. But my point is this is that one we need to address the needs of the community to be able to register their guns get permits to carry other than lying the three letter writing because that works for business people maybe but it doesn't work for laborers. who also want to have beef, who also wants to, quote carry legally and people who have had no previous encounter with him. I was just afraid. Evidently the guy that I was talking about that was the boss three the little guy was that a welterweight or something and other guy is a little. I'm just saying there's real life. These people, even some people who carry just a real life situation. So hopefully we can do something about those hours. And it's hopefully we can get the word out to people that if you want to carry and learn, like many people in this room do carrying us is get the permit, and we're gonna make it easier for us to get the permit. You don't have a phone case and seven, at least one day a week. I mean, something we have to do here to help the community million compliance if you don't always have to just put our foot on
it all I like to do but I just feel like this is not
me you have the floor. Yes.
or No question. You
don't have anything. Okay. Michelle, want to say something real quick about you. Okay. Yes, it took about 15 minutes goes two minutes. Oh, oh, long today to talk. Oh, here's to your heart. You made progress on the administration. Okay. You've followed your heart. I've been watching you almost one year now. You've made progress on the administration here. Okay. positive progress. Hold that to
your heart brother. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much.
All communications
without a mic
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.
We currently have
nine speakers. I'll call your speakers as in attendance and the three of Butler followed by Mr. Minister, followed by Miss Bernie Smith.
Chairman Carson
I still want to just bring it to your attention that we do have a
appointment. I'll just bring it you know. I'm just excited that I
understand it. Understand it now Mr. Chair,
parliamentarian, we approve the agenda. And so to add this to the agenda, does
that require any motion?
As the appointments? Yes. As the appointments coming in under the Chiefs report? Yes. Is the department is coming into the report. There was no need to add to the agenda. It's all
part of the chiefs report and
went ahead. Wonderful.
Maybe one second, I think we've got a handsome sample which cheap. Let's take a
little history. So I'm very excited about this appointment. Because I'd like to do was present Captain Eric passkey for the recommendation of the appointment to the rank of commander. There's a summary here for her captain passkey. But I first want to start by saying I've known Pat and asking for for years. For years. He is an asset to this department. He they wonderful command officer. He's been a wonderful officer throughout his tenure here. And it's great to see him up in front of you. But what I want to do now is just give you a summary that Katherine Harris ASCII is a 27 year veteran with a Detroit Police Department. As Oscar he worked at the third precinct, central district gaming unit and NorthWestern district precinct as the sixth precinct when Paston offski was promoted to Lieutenant he was assigned to NorthWestern district. He was also assigned to speak to a precinct in October 2013. past and past he was appointed to the rank of captain and assigned to the crime intelligence unit and was later assigned to the third precinct. In April of 2016, Captain pastor was appointed to the rank of commander is assigned to the sixth precinct as the commanding officer. On September 14 2017, then commander task he was appointed to captain is his current rank and assigned to the investigative operations unit. It was later assigned to this pen precinct is his current command. Captain Classic is bachelors of General Studies, a Master of Science and criminal justice, and a Graduate Certificate in Business Administration, along with Captain after education and accomplishments as a Detroit Police Executive. He has also completed several programs such as FBI National Academy in the ocean and leadership program on negotiation at Harvard Law. The police executives and new sheet school by the brought together by the Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police, Executive Leader Program Center of Homeland Defense and Security and the Michigan State University School of human resources and labor relations as a and as classified as a certified labor relations leader.
Yes Oh, yes.
I'm excited about this too. But I think you have to realize something on this level. You want to give us at least a few days to look at it. On it, so that the community will feel like we all decide and we're doing our responsibility. I am excited. I do feel like with no disrespect of one Commissioner, I think we have to be obligated to look at this recommendation. If there's no more than, what eight hours. I really feel like I based on the placed upon the profile, but I still have obligation to really but this recommendation that you that you're offering that's just a no disrespect. It's just I gotta be respected by the community
to the chair. And that's yes, you know, actually actually agree with my colleague on on this awesome subject matter. I like to make a motion that we that the board does his due diligence to vet this and bring this back for action. In the Met in a matter of a vote by next board. Pete
Spearman,
yes, there really is no need for the commissioners motion, right. The commissioner, stage to you as the chair and to the commission. Whatever it is, do you think the due diligence would be there is no motion to adopt the Chiefs recommendation at this time? Right. So it was discussion of the commission was crushed to the chief's office consider this matter.
All right. All right. We're talking to
us right. All right. Sir.
Yes, we're gonna do this, but we're gonna do it right. Okay, so can you give us
another week? Okay,
can you like
chairman, other instructions to I just, I'm trying to be responsive to Commissioner Stern, because he asked to certain specific things. And he instructions to the chief's office needs to respond to what is the commission wants that office to provide in order to act on
this matter. Okay. Can you provide us with some of the recommendations you ran off to listen to the board secretary? All right, and then she could pass on out to all the commissioners.
Commissioner. And wherever in Hollywood, Memphis, he says we need the information that you were reading that had just that, but we also need to see his disciplinary history. That is a very significant point for the community right now. And also our calculators and so forth, that that's written.
That's what we're getting. To share. So,
yes, real quick and brief. You know, we we as commissioners are very familiar with the work of, you know, Patton talsi. But it's very important that we vet this process because we just got this today. And so you know, and it's so we can we can hold off on this bushes today. So we can have a week or, you know, or so to prepare, you know, for our office to be able to do his homework. You know, that's what our that's what our community wants to see. From this board. They want us to do our homework. They don't want to just to to uproot emotions. And so I actually agree with my colleague Jim Holly, but also very familiar with the work of happening talsi You know, done a great job so far that I know of with our community. We have to do our due diligence, to vet every promotion that comes from the chief's office. Because we signed up to serve, and it's part of our fiduciary responsibilities.
Deputy Chief Can you give us a week on Laura here? We just
indicate Cheechoo all the path, protocol or command motion, simple as
that. Just share, just share. I can just provide some additional information for the commissioners. So we get the board's office we receive this recommendation in the office this week. We are analyzing that and it's not ready to pass to the commissioners today. We received that as a hardcopy on Tuesday. And so we can certainly have that analysis ready for the board to review by next week by next Thursday. Keep in mind that next Thursday, May 11 is a community meeting normally we don't have promotions during community meetings. We certainly can't as an exception, if you'd like. And if not, then the next date that we would that the commissioners would look at this will be for May 18. It's up to
the board to share real quick and brief this is what I'm talking about here. Please. You know when? When things come from the chief's office to the Board Office, it's never time stamp. Commissioners are never in the loop of these type of things. We should have no it's something like this came came to the board's office. We should have known about it right away.
We should not be looking confused today. We're not looking
confused. Sir. We are we are looking confused. Because guess what?
This came in office. We don't even know about it. We now learned today about our pop up about a promotion. This arrived to the office to Boris Austin a boy have not reached out to the commissioners. She has been put together. Yes. She just told you what we should have known that the communication have
reached the board. But it's not
on the agenda. Just the chairman
is yes, go
ahead, Commissioner.
This is impractical. We know it's not in order. No, no, mostly the proper. We're gonna do this next week. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do this next week. Okay, so look inside your packets. Check your emails. It's coming out because it's waiting to put it together. correctly. Right? wasn't on the agenda. So Alicia is looking into your emails, which should be on
next week. We should have known that this communication has changed to the board's office. We should know what's been worked on was not sent right to our emails send it this communication reached the board's
office. We're gonna go on to communication. Although this does not I don't know. We'll see you next
Good afternoon. Good afternoon.
Seven family has elected official working on our behalf and his work will affect this entire city of Detroit. Awesome. New Hall is holding seminars educating the citizen on various areas of government. We have been educated we will vote and make better choices. I attended his third session which was on the charter. Yes, work with the City Council to pass four additional ordinance ordinances that addressed the oral issues in our communities. And I am grateful. I have raised this issue many times. Dragons district meetings. It has been a long time since the year 2010 Asking for help. And I refuse to give up. Commissioners have done more to address issues that affect the quality of life in our city. Along with the work of our outstanding neighborhood police officers and Councilman Fred Hall are doing. I hope all of our elected officials will join in the effort. I am looking for young people and others with the courage of Justin Jones and Justin Pearson infinity Aven Bragg and Letitia James in New York and funny Willis Rogers to stand up speak up and do the work without fear is our time we have the power to make change on this. Wow.
Good afternoon board. America. This is Eric block from Sacred Heart Catholic Church. This department plays this board. It's Trump's. They know you they've got you under their finger. So they come to you been rushing you about anything they want. Knowing that not normally. You play along and rubber stamp whatever it is they have to say. You can miss you know Holly, either here or a police officer misconduct to hijack this meeting about crime and incidences. The prime is just a disservice is this board mission but but the law should have interrupted you like you interrupted her because she clearly questioned the police department in an effort to help her legal services to apply it. That was it.
That was it
on point of births as we thought what do you feed away? 30 A shot shot 19 times but he's still able to run. Did they shoot him in the fingers? When was denied no longer with Mr. Burse this story still doesn't add up. And I'll go back to her cane littles 10 where the video was released within four hours, I read articles and another city was also done the same. I'll also go back to my experience with Neko there. Conference national conference here is 2019 at a session which clearly demonstrated how videos can be adjusted to present a pat on the back to look like a punch. So if you don't release those videos right away, we have reason to believe they are being adjusted. And we have examples of that. Commissioner Bernard again, it's hard to trust you. Yeah, you talk about poor water births, but in between now and then you offered your legal services to police officers being promoted. Since says we still don't know the name of the officers. It very well could have been that those police officers are the ones you were offering your legal services. To. We have to stop this
madness.
Commissioners
afternoon, afternoon had a meeting. I cannot believe that I'm sitting here listening to all this garbage. They have a commissioner that set out for 15 minutes outside because of someone to come in and he comes in late and you say welcome in why she should have had his stolen here at three o'clock like everybody else. I'm in district five and I am so sorry that I moved into that district two years ago because he does not represent me. I know means he comes here and he gives to confusion constantly. So he's not even worthy for me to talk about anymore. I'm glad to see you here Warfield. I know you're disappointed in what you're hearing today, but don't worry, it's gonna get better. You Commissioner Holly. This is gonna be alright baby. It's gonna be alright. Because you know why you're mad at that. You will in my other ministry over there. I want you to believe in what you preach. Because you know why it's gonna work out. And the bullies what they're doing. They're saving lives. Everybody's bad, especially down here. Greytown I've been here I've been exposed down there last year you actually used to sit and watch what the police were doing. I saw what the public was doing. I even stopped to have it bad. Carried on his body. I called him to my clients that come here. Why are you down here with a rifle on your body? Oh, well just reserve it. No, it's not. You're down here to eat and have a good time and drink. You do not need that right but going across your body. And what did he do? He just smiled and walked away. So you see when we got the public to walk around with guns and rifles on him. It's not necessary. If you're here in this city, enjoy the city and we got a darn good city that you need to enjoy. You don't need to be shooting and going on off and the people that can't sell your arguments you're fighting all the time. It's unnecessary, and you should make sure your children do not carry any gun.
I raised five fine
children from carrying guns I demand this.
Thank you. This. Next three speakers will be Mr. Reuben Foley followed by his brother he'll come back Chris Yama, he'll
follow Kevin Kevin Samuel,
Isaiah white.
Isaiah white Tanisha comb Tanisha Coleman. Three common sized murders that have been labeled tagged classified as suicides about a homicide unit at the Detroit Police Department. Additional investigative efforts presented to the Wayne County Medical Examiner to change the scientific medical determination of lottery cases. That's three of them. I don't know what's going on with this city and these people to come down and praises department this department is covering up murders and now it's a went all the way up to the tip top. The cover up of the cover up of murders. Now Porter Burke's those four officers they shot him 1939 Shots fired. Totally ridiculous. This homicide unit Captain Derek may Michael McGinnis Eric Decker, Lieutenant Marco prestart and covered up murders. Tanisha is now her five year old daughter asked me Mr. Rue. Can you help me with my mom? I've tried everything I can think of to get this tag took off her mama because that's what she wants to white. Don't want to have a conversation with me. Because he know I know what I'm talking about in the Detroit tapes, outline and pattern of corruption in the city of Detroit. That's unheard of precedent in my 40 years moving and doing in the city of Detroit. So I'm saying it's you Commissioner Ferguson. Actually crime will recommend to you to call in an outside law enforcement agency now you talking about legal department telling you you can't do it. You got the right to do it. Called an outside independent law enforcement agency to investigate all three of their murders Tanisha Coleman, Isaiah white Kevin Samuel
it's good to hear.
Good afternoon. And I thank everybody who's doing the good job on this board. I agree with Mr. Blonde and I thank him for all that he's doing that this is a venue for police misconduct and policy. I know last week was called several times but I had to leave that Reverend Holly said what can we do to help? I said no to ShotSpotter ShotSpotter has not saved one life. $7 million plus, we could be putting that into increasing pay for the good officers. We could be using that for programs also what is what crime says facial recognition? I said no to that to people who come to this board every week said no to that. You all approve that policy. All it has done is violated our civil liberties over and over and over again. But we've not gotten nothing for our money. The outcome have not saved one life. This should be a contentious board because they're getting information about bad officers. And you all are following up with bad policies. I don't mind you arguing and we get to a place to where that we got the best police department out here. But we go and it shows. Reverend Holly said we're right at the same point. We weren't yet last year with homicide with violent crime. I'm going to our plead you all do better. Thank you.
Chris key over here.
Hello.
Yes, we can hear you. All right. Thank
you. And hi, I'll keep this brief. My name is Chris comer Hill lifelong resident of the second district. So firstly, I'd like to echo an issue that was brought up in a previous comment. This board is not here to rubber stamp the actions of the police chief of the mayor of anyone else your job is oversight, as you all know that and I'd like to thank specifically commissioners burden and Bernard for pushing back against the like pushing through specifically of promotions and about some other motions and for actually acting on behalf of the people of Detroit and raising these concerns that these things need to be looked at. I got to remind the entire board that everything that comes before you needs to be given due consideration. Ultimately, you don't work for the police department or if the police chief, you work for the people of Detroit. We've already seen based on past news reporting very recently, that the police chiefs recommendation just can't be trusted when it comes to these promotions. We know that he isn't doing his due diligence and as a result, if you as a board need to take an extra week to review these promotions. The police chief should just have to deal with that. That shouldn't come before your obligation to the people of Detroit. For review everything that comes before you and make sure that nothing is slipping by. I'd also like to specifically point out that there are several important policies before the policy commission, and that it's important that every member of that commission attend the upcoming meetings. I can say that we will simply be paying attention to who was able to attend the next few meetings. But I'd like to specifically ask chair Ferguson to fulfill his duty as an ex officio member of that committee to attend and make sure that quorum is met so that business can be passed and thanks can be brought before the entire
committee.
Thank you
I yield the rest of my time.
Speakers we're dealing with lower costs, followed by Mr. Jeffrey Coyne.
And it's hard.
Yes. All the sight of oversight oversight. Number one, the board of police commissioner's meetings should all be held in the community. Also Porter Burke's Porter box was shot at times. That's an overkill. We need to know where these officers are working at now. If they're still employed, and what are their names the citizens of Detroit need to know their names. Also, board of police commissioners should not be ex police officers. They should be citizens of the city of Detroit, not retired officers, not retired county workers. They shut off the citizens of Detroit with no police affiliation. That's part of the charter. Oversight oversight oversight. Nope. The policies are not working for us, because you guys are not making sure that they're working for us. So we need to make sure that the citizens of the city of Detroit, get all of the information that is needed so that we can get this board functioning. Also the community wants to know why pastor Mo is doing what is he doing representing the police department regarding the shooting at Greek town. And is he a spokesman for you guys. That's what I need to know. And the citizens of Detroit would like a response for each and every one of you.
Thank you. Calling
Yes, good afternoon. This is Geoff Cowan. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can hear you
well, I've heard a lot of criticism today. And I want to just thank everyone, for meeting and thank everyone for this conversation. Conversation is the only way we're going to ever end the war in Ukraine and everything down to the problems that our neighborhood so I'm grateful for each one of you for your service. Grateful for our police department. I live on Virginia Park Street. I was a friend of Dr. Divan Hoover as well as his neighbor and I'm calling in today to just offer community support to DPD in the homicide unit. Our doors are open our phones are turned on if we can be of any support or service please don't hesitate to touch bases. With me directly or any neighbor in our community. Lastly, how can we get federal assistance for the investigation? Many of us believe it's a hate crime due to the heinous nature of the multiple gunshot wounds to his heads. And apparently a man carried him upstairs into the attic. And
Devine was gay. And
everyone who knows divine knows divine it was gay. And we believe it's a hate crime and want to know if the federal resources can be brought to assist our great team here in Detroit. If at all possible, please let us know how we can help
thank you because we're dealing with Marguerite Maddox, former commission rates man
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I'm good. Thank you. Thank you just cannot be heard. Yes, we can hear you.
Okay. I like to start off by saying that for a year before I was elected to do after four years, I was on the board and since I've been off the board, I have not missed a meeting. I don't think not a single one of y'all can say that. You know, Reverend Holly raised some questions that sounded questionable to me, because at least I did read all of my cases. I did read my email. I did read everything. And unlike some of y'all, I actually voted against a number of promotions, because I actually read and understood what I was reading. Off. I think it's an injustice to the taxpayers of the city of Detroit, the Jagang two people suspended with pay that should should have been fired. You know, all during the time I was on the board. I kept suggesting that we need to hire a board secretary we need to hire a chief investigator but we have some people sitting right there that you know wants to make sure that friends and what happened with taxpayer money. You know, it was questioned like said what could you do better do your job, you know, do what you're supposed to do? Understand and understand that you should not advocate and support people with bad records, you know, does not matter what happened? I do do this and they still end up being promoted. Y'all should take a stand. If somebody has a bad record, bow them. No vote now for people with bad records. Have a good day.
This year, that was the last week. Okay, let me say a couple of
things. Are Here you
whatever happens to respect and trying to get respect on this board since I've been here? Alright, well, as soon as I say it, goes in one ear out the other and next thing you know, anarchy happens again. I can only ask for respect. You can't demand
it from anybody.
Because you're going to do what you're gonna do. This was Maddox was referring to what happens to our respecting each other's opinions. This is what she said. Mr. Chairman, for the record, you were the one that made fun of mismatched knots before in previous liens is shut her down when she was speaking to on public comments.
Thank you, sir. That's all
on the record, that is false is true.
Most suspect Miss Madoff
Ash is eyes to pasture.
Public comment?
Let's keep it moving.
Let's keep it moving. Moving.
I said that is not in my character. Not in my DNA. That is not what I was brought up to do. That is not what my mother father taught me to do.
I've never been
like that. Ever. Or is again on wheels, making fun of
blogging every week.
And that's what we've just finished saying
respect. That's what we say.
We expect people just don't like to hear it. When you hear your
hours like that, that's what you hear. That's what you hear.
I'm sure yes, somebody benefit of the public, particularly around misconduct. doing our very best to try to feel our role in one of those functions is our community complaints. And as I'm reviewing them, and not to put the burden on those who are filling out the complaints. I've got our investigators often call to verify the report. And when they are unable to get in person who filed the report. It really makes it difficult for us to be able to adjudicate what has been written and so I'm just asking that those who submit complaints, if at all possible, to make yourself readily available so that when our investigators do call that we can get the most information to be able to adjudicate your complaint.
Thank you and record a record. Make sure no more has entered the building. Commissioner. So oh, we have a new report coming out. That would be from the chief investigator, Chief Investigator Jerome Warfield your report, sir.
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and because it's on our board, let me first of all say thank you for appointing me to this position, because it's my hope and my prayer and my desire that we will continue to work with this important office, and we will make significant improvements as we move forward on behalf of the citizens of the city of Detroit, certainly to all of you who are here in this room and those of you who are watching online, our lines of communication are always open and at the end of my report, you will certainly see a phone numbers and my contact information so you can contact me just about any time in your folders under tab number five. You will see a copy of the report. And I will first of all want to thank senior investigator Hiller but actually compiled the report for me and my request. And we have a great group of talented passionate investigators in the office of the chief investigator and they do an outstanding job day in and day out. Whether under resource or not. They come to the job every day looking to make a difference in the city. What I want us to do today is just give up almost like a 10,000 foot overview of how we process the complaints that are filed in our office. Next slide
please.
The mission of the Office of Chief Investigator is literally to fairly effectively and to objectively receive, investigate and make recommendations regarding complaints concerning the police department. I want to make one thing very clear though. Our job is not to meter out discipline. Our job is not to recommend discipline Our job is not to recommend acid. Our job is simply to look for the evidence that either supports or gives definition to the complaints that are filed in our office. And once we file our our reports as relates to the facts that we're able to find those relates to that specific complaint. We turn that information over and we go on to the next complaint, but we are working on behalf of the citizens of this great city. As relates to our staff. We were structured to have a chief investigator at this time. Re supervising investigators, seven singer investigators 15 investigators and two clerical personnel. The Office of citizens complaint serve as the investigative staff with its honorable board of police commissioners I said some of you before I believe it is actually the heart of this board. That without his board, I think without the officers Chief Investigator investigation that this board really lose a lot of his luster to be honest, because it is through the Office of Chief investigation that we're able to follow up on the citizens complaint and literally be that line of demarcation between citizens whose rights are being upheld versus those citizens who may feel that their rights have been infringed upon. All citizen complaints are forwarded to OCI no matter where they are taken in and we will give notification to the citizens of their complaint. They will get a number of their complaint that's assigned to their complaint and the name of their investigator and it OCR determines that an allege actions are criminal in nature, that case will be forwarded over to the professional standards to division one investigation. OCI does not investigate criminal investigations. periodically. We will respond the citizens will receive information on the status of their complaint until it's completed so they will get updates as you move forward in the investigation process. And the findings are then reviewed and approved by a member of the Board of police commissioners. After the approval by the board the Office of the Chief Investigator would notify our citizens in writing of the investigative findings whether or not disciplinary or corrective action has been taken. Next slide please. So how do you file citizens complaint? Well, who can file it? Actually a victim of alleged misconduct can file with a parent or guardian of a minor? A witness an organization an agent that represents the one who was giving the that is victim of a complaint or an anonymous complaint even to anonymous complaints as well. Here's one thing that's very important. No one and or should be turned away from filing a citizen complaint. Our job is to investigate every complaint that comes into that office. So how did you file us as citizens complaint? Well, one of the things you can do, you can file it in person at our office or at polling precinct in the city of Detroit. You can file it by letter, by telephone or by fax. You can file it online, or you can actually scan the QR code right there this on your screen. You take your phone and take a picture that QR code, it'll take you right to the complaint form and you can do that right now. There you have the information for the Office Chief Investigator. Our address is right there. On your screen. The telephone number to the office is there 313-596-2499 Our office is open daily, from eight o'clock AM to four o'clock pm is right in the middle of beautiful Karmakar and again, we do not turn anyone away anyone away who wants to file a complaint as relates to misconduct.
Next slide, please.
When we look at the various allegations that we investigate, there are several allegations that we investigate one is arrest. If the complaint feels that the arrest of a person's Liberty was improper or injustice, we'll investigate that demeanor. And let me just first of all parse out some of the more common complaints that we've received in the office. Certainly the meaner procedure is ours and service are some of the more popular investigations that we do demeanor complaint in regards a members earrings, gesture and language or other actions which is offensive or doubtful. Since I'm sorry, social propriety, there's force complaint that complaint with regards to the use of force against a person. There's also the complaint against an entry that a person that the police may have entered a building or a property that was improper. Then there's harassment complaints that we receive that complaint is that the method of police action was predicted upon factors irrelevant under the circumstances to get law enforcement decision making, and in other words, it was race, it's tied to sex age and things like that. We also have investigated procedures, complaints regarding procedures, complaints regarding violation of policies, procedures, training, or the law enforcement code of ethics, and then search people who complain that the search of their person or their property was improper, and that it's in violation of established B LPC and police department policies and procedures. We also investigate complaints as it relates to property. Sometimes complaints come in regarding property or loss of damage, especially if it's a car a vehicle that has been towed while in police custody or confiscated through some type of police action. And then of course, we investigate service complaints as well. And that's regarding the lack of tardiness or the inadequacy of police service. We investigate all of those.
Next slide please.
This is one of the most difficult slides that we produced because unfortunately what we cannot do is put in a slide format. The complexity, I wouldn't investigation goes through the various steps of an investigation. Here's what I will say that our investigators, their full investigation is extremely thorough. And we literally leave no stone unturned. When I was visiting Lake Cole, and when I was dealing with other cities around the country, our investigators were one of the investigative units that did one of the most thorough investigations of citizens complaint about the whole country. I don't know where that stands now. But I know back in the day, that was certainly the case. And I'm gonna leave room investigation for a minute because I'm coming to talk about that in more detail. But here's some of the other investigation that we do. We do summary investigations. What is that? Well, in certain circumstances and only with the approval of the supervising investigator. The requirements for certain interviews may be weighed when the existing evidence leads itself to a definitive conclusion. Let me give you an example. If someone complains that they were mistreated and an officer cursed at them, if we look at the video hammer and see that the officer cursed at them, then we can literally sustain that based on the information that comes in. Again, we look for facts we're not trying to put our emotions in we're not trying to put reasoning in we look for the facts that support the complaint, administrative closures. That's one of the things we're going to change the word to that because the ministry of closure does not mean that that just paperwork and that's it. No these are actual investigations and the administrative closure is an investigation that deals with a duplicate complaint. So there's a situation and you have two or three citizens that are complaining about the exact same scenario. And so what we do is that we provide an overall and that's template letter an overall investigation. That deals with all of the issues concerning that. And so this helps us not have to do separate investigations for the exact same incident, and it's transferred to the appropriate outside agencies and the complaints against former members and our three or four members if they're retired from the job. We can, we cannot guarantee them we cannot question them. And so it fall under this category. When you look at the next category of of complaint closure categories is informal complaint resolution. And this is the resolution of a citizen complaints that allege only inadequate service or the complaints and incidents of a charge. And so we deal with those two. Next slide please. Yes, I want to deal with I want to deal with the flow and investigation. That's why I want to get clear, hopefully. Full Investigation is the broad umbrella that covers the other three that I just mentioned. And with the full investigation, once that complaint is made, whether it's through a DPD precinct whether it's through online, we always contact the citizens. So no matter what that CCR says we will contact citizens and hear directly from them. Why? Well, first of all, because we know that translation that sometimes communication is lost in translation. And so we want to get as many facts as we can, in an effort to make sure that we are investigating the right thing we'll contact the witnesses many times are investigated for blockage canvass the area I remember in two training classes ago, one of our one of our two of our investigators, new investigators, they were it was trained by supervising investigator Sloane I believe at that time and they were given the instruction is to go out and look and canvass the area because there were some materials out there and when they wouldn't canvass they've sought out a wallet that was related to the case. So best type of hard work, we'd go and look at cameras. So we'd go into those areas when we can see them houses going to businesses, if there are cameras that might add to our investigation, because again, we're looking for the evidence that will allow us to make a good decision at the end of our investigation. We look at all the electronic evidence. We guarantee officers when necessary and when needed. We've talked to a number of witnesses. We even look at additional information that right now that's not part of the initial complaint, but we call it additional findings. So if we see something that occurred that breaks policy, in that incident, we will make a report of that as well. And we will make a recommendation what our findings are, and we'll pass those findings on to the board. And this is just a sample, just a sample out of a whole report. But just a couple of pages of the report that you'll see here. There are pages there are some reports and investigation that we do that are 4070 pages long. And that's how thorough our investigators work.
Next slide please.
Now we're gonna have our findings and these are the four standard findings or conclusions that we come to at the end of the investigation. exonerated and that is where a preponderance of the evidence shows that the alleged conduct did occur, but did not violate the Detroit Police department policies, procedures or training. And we do know that that happens sometimes, because you know, we see the reports. So just because the app happened, that does not necessarily mean it violated police policy, unfounded. That is where the investigation revealed that no facts to support that the incident complained of actually occurred. What that could potentially mean there was no evidence that we came across either the body cameras weren't working, or the witnesses wasn't coming forth. We want to get in the club cooperation. But we as an investigative unit, could not determine that the action did or did not happen based on the fast I mean, based on the evidence that we investigated, because what we cannot do, we cannot sustain someone for something that we can validate. Here's what our investigators doing. Here's my mantra. My monitor is that our investigators and our cases always have to pass the microphone test. What is the microphone test? Many times in the past and maybe some of you know or don't know this, some of our cases end up in court, or some of our cases end up in disciplinary hearings, and the investigators to sign off on these reports. The supervising investigators leaving the chief investigator I have to go into the thing that this investigation so we're very careful to make sure that whatever we're putting in this report is backed by evidence for us is the evidence is the evidence is the evidence. Another finding that we have is sustained. And that is where the preponderance of the evidence shows that the alleged conduct did occur and that the actions of the officers violated these great police department policies and procedures. And we don't make the recommendations how that should happen. But we do forward it on to the necessary entities and that's taken care of on that end. And then finally, our final finding is inconclusive, and that is where there is insufficient facts to decide whether the alleged misconduct occurred in the first place. Next slide. Please. In the board of police commissioner's.
I'm sorry that that address right there. I'm not sure that's one of the places I'm sorry. That's one of the places to have addresses one of the places where you can go and make your reports and you also can go to again our office right there in Palma Park and make your report as well. Again, our numbers are right here for you. 596 2499 If any comments questions or concerns certainly would like to read this to answer those and thank you for listening.
Awesome report, sir. I just got one No, I just scan the QR code, right? Yes. And it worked. Yes. Awesome.
As that was brilliant.
Oh, can we streamline
the online complaint?
I looked on it. That thing is so long. As it makes me go nevermind.
Um, this week, I have held several meetings with staff, from our administrative staff to our senior investigators. We are looking at our overall operations, how we can more effectively streamline what we do, what I was taking away from the effectiveness of our investigation. So we're looking at everything top to bottom and that's one of the things we're looking at. And we'll come to you fairly soon with the report first of all on the state of our office where we are because we got to understand who we are and how we got here. No wants to show you or or indicate to you where we believe we can go and how
we can get there. And looking forward to that.
Thank you, Commissioner. Thanks. Yes.
I'm gonna share some lessons to you faster. What category is that? If officer pulls over a resident and he cuts it curses that resident? What category
is that? Typically to cause them to demeanor but it could be more depending on what else happened in that call. But typically, that's demeanor.
Okay. Mr. Bern,
thank you. I just want to say this is an excellent report from our chief investigator. Great job
and welcome aboard.
Thank you, sir. Oh, yeah. Congratulations on your promotion. Chief Investigator. Condition.
Thank you, Mr. Warfield, welcome to the board. We'll see you in that capacity. I just want to say my nine years on this board demeanor, audit by the scent. Oh, complaint is demeanor. No other agency in this area held the main complaint like we helped them in mind, if you will know from your experience with the Commission. Certainly. And I have spoken to cheap quick cheap white about this. I haven't added confusion in terms of we need to identify these officers and what impact can we have on each officer in terms that they go forward? And you will know we recently voted? One would all type of come in I have heard from our LSA president. Mark. You don't care about civil complaint, but I care. As a officer as a citizen. I have always cared. And I think we should make an impact in terms of the outcome of our complaint. demeanor. I understand it's a seizure of young department, but the mean I just don't get it in terms of how can we conduct ourselves. Not proper in terms of professional officer. That's something and I know the ins and outs about being a police officers you will know and I have worked in an office for five years into by noting in OCI. I think we need to have an impact was she weighed in two main complaints so we can have an impact in terms of identifying the thought and what are the income these officer unknown by the commanding officer of demeanor. So I just want us to focus on that. Thank you,
sir. Thank you Commissioner through the Chair if I can just for a brief response. We are in the process and structure our staff to give us a frequent flyer list of those officers that we know are notorious for demeanor or other complaints that we see in in a pattern that is handed dangerous. Thank you,
Mr. President,
no chair, but I do want to say, commendations to you and your leadership in getting us a extraordinary chief investigator and extraordinaire, Secretary. I'm very encouraged by what this board can do now with very little capable staff. Thank you.
I have my way we had this done in November.
We mentioned the more courses literature.
I'm just gonna Holly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you so much for the report. Chief, thank you very much. Can we at least give some accolades to Carmen? Well? Yes, absolutely. You just come up and say thank you.
Yes
sir, you he's a little embarrassing, but I want you to know how grateful we are as commissioners, for the leadership you've given in the photo. I want you to know that I've obviously had reports that I do, and how well they've done. I think it's important for us to at least say thank you. Thank you for your leadership, knowing that it was temporary and knowing that eventually someone's coming because you worked diligently and responsibly and I want to say on behalf of the board and behalf as it's cheap about President that we thank you so much.
Thank you, well, wasn't wasn't an interim job. It was just helping me with the day to day
lives. You come back. I just think the board should also be aware in the community and the fact that you have been stepping in as the leader of OCI for the past 18 years that you've been with us just 18 years. So you know, a PA that's congratulations to you. Everything you just are remarkably a remarkable, man in a remarkable professional. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
Can I do my
Yes, go ahead. Thank you, Premier. Me to do that. Chief. Mike, I just see in the report and maybe how we interface with the community report, because that was to make the report whether to first of all, let them know that we are we have not concluded it but maybe the process of it. And then when this was concluded, will they be notified? And if so how the second thing is listen to the secretary, and you asked him for the last week before you got started. I really want you guys to look and see the technology that's out there in order to get these to how you are getting close. To the Moon and Mars and architecture, intelligence. I'm sure that we can find a way to get things done quickly, efficiently, and you get it down. And I just feel like the technology is there. I don't know I've got a track mentality wise, but I'm just saying I just got a feeling. They're just out there. Asking if you would please try to see where the ACT found the question as to how we can do this. And we'll see we'll find the money for you. But other things said about how we replace it with the citizens in regards to beginning to the end.
Yes, sir. And through the chair. We absolutely follow what with the citizens after our initial conversation with them every, like 10 days, depending on how long the investigation is we let them know when the investigations are concluded as well. So we stay in constant contact and if the citizens call in the midst of those periods that we get back with him. He certainly answered their phone call or get back with them to try and communicate the progress of our
investigations to share
Yes Just quickly, excellent reporting. And please tell the staff person I think I don't recall her name, who put us together who obviously knows a great deal about the department. Well, I want to make one comment on your pages of OCI allegations. Just start with the rest. I'd like if we could there are nine different things here that you that you reference, in terms of what we investigate. I think leaving before an arrest I think the issue of why am I being stuff Why am I being detained? I mean, is it because I have read it because my pants are sagging? Why are you saying anything to me? People have a right to be free. Of the police interference in everyday life. And I think a lot of the most of the complaints we've got some people call demeanor I don't mean at all. I call it it's an intrusive nature of some police officers that just automatically say when they see for me like Man Are they gonna stop the car? No, it isn't done in it. Somebody in there has has an outstanding arrest warrant. Something is up. I mean, it's what we call driving while black was example. What was the reason that you stopped me in the first place? Why are you talking to me? Why, you know, why am I being interfered with I think that's a separate category and I would create it as a top or detainment complaint. Yes. My
only comment. Thank you again to the shear Commissioner that actually falls under harassment. And so if citizens felt like he was driving and being pulled over because they were black, cause that falls under harassment. So it's it's kind of under the categories. Yes, man.
Thank you. Questions. All right. I mean, I'm sorry. Shaw your
report please share.
I wanted to win.
One wants to other commissioners up by payment,
get his chance to get his chance. So back and forth. I'm sorry
I missed you know you just say on the Detroit grassroots. We want to personally thank Casey crownsville for holding eight and for holding Austin chief investigators office together at a time that was really crucial and on and waiting for the arrival of our new chief investigator who was highly praised years ago for his service for putting together the format for OCI for building infrastructure in place from the DOJ at that time. So I really just want to thank AC crowns well for this service. And also I want to congratulate once again for the rival reviews Chief Investigator who's going to turn this office around that's going to make this board shine and and blamed back the morality back to the OCI and the board. Office.
Okay, sure. Enough you get two years two years. Give me a couple of your goals. What are some of your goals, you can know some of your goals, what you're trying to accomplish the next two years. I'm wondering if you can tell
me tell us I will open it up. I have to go in greater detail than we really what I wanted to do tonight, but I'll tell you a couple of things. One, is to restructure really organize the process of how we intake complaints, how we investigate complaints, to make sure that we are uniform in our efforts that every investigator is investigating these these complaints in the exact same way. No matter who you work for. That all would do that. And then finally that and this is probably something that explains more that that was going to greater detail later on. I promise you we record out on this, basically is to remove the toxic environment that's in that office. Our investigators are indicators and I'm not over exaggerating, okay. suffers from PTSD from working in that office, which is PTSD, post traumatic stress syndrome, okay. And I'm not joking. I'm not being I'm not being. I'm not being hyper static in my statements. I sat down and interviewed several of the folks who work in that office, investigators and staff and all of them have a question. We're going to work they are committed to going to work with they wants to do what's comes to work. They literally want to come to work, have their talents, their skills, their abilities, be appreciated, be able to communicate with each other work with each other to where the citizens of the city are literally enhanced and their voices are heard at levels that it hasn't been in a while. And so to build that camaraderie is a major deal for us. And again, that may be a little controversial to say, but I always speak the truth. And so so those are a few of my major goals are getting it done. And so I'm going very methodically, meeting with everyone in that office to see how can all of the talents that are in that office be represented at some level there and they can be honored
as they do. Their work. Wonderful. And those are some major goals to get in tastic out of an organization. So wish you the best chief investigator, you seem like a tenacious
young man that didn't really get after it. Here Yeah.
Let me clear a couple of things up right away. One is not a two year plan. I mean, he's gonna be here as long as he wants to be with Travis. And the second thing I want to say is he is not a clinical doctor. So that was his opinion on PTSD. Okay.
Just for the record,
I haven't I'm a gold customer.
You have my I have my degree in counseling. Thank you
I got one
more. Now. You said he won't be here many more years right now is
contract he's put two
years he doesn't have a public contract. He's an employee it will.
It'll have a contract. And the Secretary was was
two years. No.
Two years. Oh, okay. That was the intro. Okay.
Oh man. He explains
to explain this to me. Okay.
Finally.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. And through the chair, because the secretary report today commissioners you do have on your agenda, your incoming correspondence, and I will reference those as necessary. It's Teresa bossman. I had an opportunity to meet with Dr. Rocha from Wayne State University this week to get an update on where we are with that partnership. And as part of my secretary report, I would like to pass it off to miss Lawson for just a moment to give some updates regarding that partnership.
Auto Body through the chair. This is the update on the Wayne State University, Wayne Law partnership with the board of police commissioners and 2021 as part of the ongoing commitment to the Obama Task Force recommendations. The board leadership approved staff to work with Wayne State. That work resulted in a report identifying areas of advancing oversight and transparency through better technology, data, dashboards, public friendly reports and other measures. That collaborative report was distributed as steel posted at the West site in December 2022. The board voted to add our Wednesday collaboration to our Wednesday collaboration by having us partner with law school and benefit from weighing laws participation with the American Heart Association, ABA legal education police practice and source yum. That consortium is committed to understanding and addressing legal issues and and policing and public safety. Most importantly for us, it also looks at public oversight of the evolving and challenging nature of police work. Vice Chair Holt and police commissioner Carter. You join with staff and late December to work with Professor Robert Dodd to decide the key policy areas for law students or ABA fellows to examine and kind of study and to earn class credit and produce research papers. The board's suggestions were to look at policies around use of force, facial recognition, and an autumn Vedic gunfire detection systems or ShotSpotter and the outcomes with those policies that the professor listed for law students and ABA fellows and Kayla Armstead are Dosch Wayne Kelly and David zensar. Sorry, cancer. They agreed to study the policies and public information for use of words you've got spotter I want to stress that this whole just on public information given to the board and the public each week is only available at the city's website. A core goal is to make sure information is available and as easy for the public to find and understand when it comes to transparency. And police accountability. The professor held a biweekly meeting with her fellows, and I periodically joined to answer questions or to hear possible research leads. We did extend invitations for the professor to meet with the policy committee. Commissioner Carter has spearheaded this effort with the board when she was chair of that committee. The professor remains willing to come anytime to the committee's at the community use me at the committee's convenience or at the pleasure of the board as an update. With the semester now over. The professor shared with BOARD SECRETARY Shaw and myself it's wait that one topic was completed. And that topic was on ShotSpotter. The professor is currently reviewing that paper now and expects to have a final draft or the bo PC in June. See also here they will use this semesters experience to restructure the education clinic for the fellows in the fall. Because this is an ongoing collaboration the focus is on effective research and outcomes, not just paper production. In closing, I want to again extend the board's thanks to the professor, the fellows and the collaborative nature of the project. The fellows have been great to know and work with. I want to add gratulations for graduate, David and Mikayla nobody that Mikayla who was a let the fellowship early for a fantastic job in entertainment law. We have to be the OPC server with all the students continued success. And we look forward to taking up the collaboration again in the outcome in June and then taking up the collaboration again this fall. Thank you honorable board.
Thank you Miss Lawson. And honorable board just to continue the secretary report. I'll share my screen here just show some wires that are at the table. These are in preparation for the public hearing that will be taking place next week on May 11. At our community meeting, and we will be looking for the community's feedback on the new police surveillance specifically around the expanded use of license plate readers and so leave are a few of the informational materials that are in your packets as well as on the table for the community either also being distributed through our various electronic channels on our website as well as to our media partners. And we ask that the community review this information in preparation for providing feedback to the
board next week.
Based around budget, so I have requested the final approved item itemized budget for Bo PC and BPD and we'll share that with the board once received. What I did receive was leave your PC adopted position budget for fiscal years 2024 which shows the position that the board voted to approve on May 16 have not been approved by city council. You can see a copy of that in your packets behind me have number six the currently approved position but it only allows for 35 total staff positions rather than the 37 that the board approved and it does reduce the number of investigators that we can staff by two. This isn't being appealed to city council as these positions are important to be LPC providing effective oversight on behalf of destroyers updates regarding open positions. So as several have have congratulated today we have onboarded Chief Investigator Jerome, Jerome Warfield who started on Monday five one and I'm looking forward to the partnership and the value that he brings to the Office of the Chief Investigator. For investigators we have the five appointment of candidates they all started on Monday five one and they are in training and in addition, we have 52 New Investigator candidates who have applied to fill additional investigator positions. The applications for all 50 schools are distributed via email to all commissioners on May 3 All 52 candidates are with the chief investigator Warfield for screening based on qualifications. In addition we have an opening for supervising investigator we have one supervising investigator will also be a magical who was hired this week of effective the third position is being posted for internal promotion requisition is approved and with recruiting for posting our executive manager position for fiscal operations. We have received 20 candidates that have applied and applications for all 20 were distributed to the commissioners on five three and I'm currently screening those based on qualifications as well. In regards to the open attorney and legal assistant position, the appeal to corporate Corporation counsels decision is still being drafted. Based regarding committees at this time no committee meetings have been scheduled for me as of yet. The following are matters that are before the board and you may want to you may consider having these handled by committee, budget disciplinary BPD administrative requests and when there are no items at this time for personnel and training. This is the committee chaired by Commissioner Hey Soos Hernandez we still have two DPD applicant appeals that needs to be addressed Jaylen Johnson the second and Rashid Hickson just citizen complaints chair by Commissioner Cedric banks we have the citizen complaint appeal process used by city charter section seven dash 809 resolution of complaints. Currently the staff is reviewing the standard operation procedures and developing recommendations to take to that committee. Finally the policy committee chaired by Commissioner Willie Burton. We have the license plate reader specification report, which is going before the community on next week for public hearing and then said additional policies that are before the Board staff will continue to review and schedule public hearings to get public feedback for the full board consideration. Last item from my secretary report, I will provide a base regarding the status of cases with OCI. If we can bring that slide but please.
All right here.
All right. So for citizen complaint
updates. So for our
recent improvements in initiatives, supervisors are continuing to coach investigators on managing inventory management strategies to drive more consistent production while maintaining thorough investigations. And again, just really happy to have Chief Investigator Warfield on board now to provide more focus to this and I'm looking forward to the improvement that he'll be making with that team. Well, I'll see i admins are back in the office gladly and the front end back end processes are back on track. We can go to the next slide please. And we can skip past this slide. These are just definitions and clarification or process. All right. And so as far as our total open cases by age, we do have still an increase from last week in the total number of cases from 545 to 561. And we are holding steady with the number of cases that are aged 91 days and older. And we do have additional cases that have come in and into the lower category of zero to 60 days. Next slide please. We have 25 closed cases that are currently review of commissioners we are expecting those back today. Some of you have turned those in and we have 20 closed cases that are being distributed today for review. Next slide or 2023 performance so we have added the performance for April. And in April we did receive 131 cases and the team calls 81 cases. So again, we are understaffed at LCI right now, we do need to start to close more cases in the month then we're receiving in and we're not at that point yet. So looking forward to the additional five investigators that will be coming out of training in the next couple of weeks so that they can start to assist with inventory. We can go to the next slide. update regarding the 2023 cases though so far in 2023. We have had 463 cases received and 178 of those cases are closed. 122 of them were closed in 60 days 48 were closed between 61 and 90 days and we had eight that actually closed over 90 days. We did have an update to one case, where the case had to be opened again some adjustments made and closed at a later time and so it has moved from one bucket to the other. But overall we are seeing that we are closing more cases in the allotted time frame. Next slide. And then as far as our cases that have been received in 2023 that are still open, we have 25 of them are aged over 90 days, and 40 of them are approaching 90 days and so the team is is putting extra focus on last cases to make sure we do not continue to contribute
to the backlog.
And
that is all from my report. Mr. Chair, your court
Okay.
Awesome report. I'm the Policy Committee. I've been asking and I've been asking people if they want to be on a policy committee with the chair, which is Commissioner Burt is not there was the chair and the vice chair to beat only two people on our policy committee to help her out. She's just not there. Right, an extra Shinano I don't want to micromanage anything. I want you guys to put it last week. That's what we're gonna have to do moving forward because no one is getting with permission to hurt and to lend their support on that policy. But we got to move forward. So this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna put out the policy that's before us. When the DVD give it to us. We will send it out to delivery dogs and other media services, whether it's the news or whether it's anybody and have the public come here and review that policy when they get it and have them weigh in on this changes. They want to see something that they don't like, right? And then when they do that the
full board
is gonna make the recommendation on how that should go. And that's how we're going to have to move forward. We
can't keep holding this stuff up point of order. Mr. Chairman,
volunteer for the community. That's one
that's one that's one. We have one person do we do? Can we have any more that want to be on the policy committee?
Yes, to share even though I wanted to tell that last week lien was just received something about likes and place readers. We haven't got a lot of information about it, but we did receive something for the first time as of last week about the license plate readers. And now, this is going to be something that's going to be gone before the meeting of the whole at our community meeting. The policy committee have not reviewed this. This has not been a discussion in our committee was as of yet because we just got this as a whole board as of last week. In addition to that, the policy committee will be leaving on Tuesday, May 9
At three o'clock
and that's where we're going to be meeting again on Wednesday May 10 At three o'clock so the main night is emergency Legion and so I want to put that out there we have a look we have looked at awesome while shooting policy. There was some information that was put together with that policy committee, which that committee at the time thought a lot of those information were good bars recommendation but when it was time to vote that out of committee for some reason we just didn't have
the bodies at the table
to vote that matter out and and chairperson purchasing you can attend every other
every buddy else's
community. But when it comes to trying to get some voted out of the policy committee, you have no show. I did receive a letter or one commissioner
who
who went by it the right way or is resigning from the committee staff because they couldn't do the work is because of you know, they have you know, they have a lot of responsibilities and I totally understand it. And and I respect that Commissioner for going by it the right way. But this committee has been trying to get things out awesome ball shooting policy gunshot detective policy. There's a policy that this board has voted on voters to create a policy on what the police department can receive or not received from the Department of Defense, whether it was the 1030 program or the change 22 program. And this was something that we voted on a few years ago that policy have not been graded. In addition to that we have a policy director have not been present. Because that person I guess, taking some leave or or whatever is going on, have not been here so we don't even have so we don't even have the Policy Director or or or anyone to help with this. What's his policy? Body parts can be the committee has done some work or as citizens complaints. policy. We have reviewed laser recommendations. I can't get it passed without you being present as the ex officio of this body. Thank you. So there's policies that we kind of review this week. Let me clear some of that life itself. Because to you you say you can't be there either day.
Thank you.
The previous committee meeting that we had a great speakers that came and gave great presentations. John hires, the third was at the most recent committee meeting for policy brought in nine page document. Excellent presentation on on officers use of force and mental health.
I really have to move. I really gotta move really
properly from Chicago. Truly Oh, they gave a great presentation. Yes, sir. Policy Committee. Officers body worn pastor. Thank you for Bernstein's report. Presentation. I want to get something done and move out
of policy. Okay. Thank you, Shane. Thank you. Thank you. So for the board at 330. That's my heart or our meeting. That's what it was. Um, yes, it is certainly something. I indicated that I couldn't be there. My Calendar got Oh, I cannot be there. Remember every time he can never
have the floor ever be there to share the
boards. Sue's me
Susan
mother bunnies are the Bernese you're just
you're doing you're helping. I know.
That's okay.
It's okay. Well, the Bernese or the Bernie says okay. All right. Okay.
I've been hearing it I've been hearing it.
Hold on. Gonna record.
He did send me email and I responded in seconds. I can't be there. My calendar was for those two days that I came up with this plan. The public is gonna be able to come forward. I think that's fair. If I can't get you to come to his meeting, and I can't get there. So remember, I said I don't want to micromanage anything. I want the commissioners want to be involved in helping craft a policy to be on that committee and if they don't make them right so only thing I can do is have the public help craft the policy by coming forward with your public opinion and then go ahead and do make these policies.
And I think that's fair.
Yes. That since these policies are primarily legal policies, again, since we don't have a lawyer for the board, Can we perhaps share the policies directly, perhaps with the ACLU and maybe another organization and get their feedback? Because I mean, you know, it's very important that we really hear from the experts.
Everybody. ACLU,
you have been invited to give a presentation before the policy committee. On for for for Tuesday, May 9, and may 10. For those days are scheduled for 3pm and ACLU has been invited to give a presentation reached out as policy chairperson of that committee. And Mr. Chairman, do approve 2.0 attorney commissioner to the policy committee so that we will have a quorum to I can't make it. Well, I also we also have any hope
also indicated she couldn't make it to
me. The committee will
meet my experience. Sure duty on this board. Policy.
You have a fair
you have a fair
quarter days a week, hours, whatever it is. They, their job is to help us with the policy. We have time. I don't care what commissioner says. I'm just here to you as you're doing the best you can with your time we all appreciate that. We have a staff. My second tip, we've always had this head give it to the committee or they've done the meat or the work and we push it up. We polish it up please. We polish it up and then we vote on it as a committee.
That's always good. We don't have
the staff but we got we got
we don't have a policy person. We don't have a lawyer. Those are the people who
as the problem is pending, I need to make a clarification so I don't want anyone to be confused. As Chair of the Board of police commissioners were asked to switch to all committees. ex officio by definition means you know you have the right but not the duty right. Who was 10 committee need
to leave. If you attend
a committee meeting, you have rights to vote to make motions and to participate because the Quorum of a community can never be dependent on you.
If you are there
the Quorum of a committee can never been dependent on your presents. So even if you show up at a committee meeting, and they say okay, now we have a quorum. No, they don't. You are not part of that form for the committee. So ex officio gives you certain rights but you're not required to under the right cause after duty. So any committee is because x a quorum and you show up, it still does not have a quorum. It has to be a regularly appointed member of that. Committee. And in terms of the LMA, I'm pretty clear and trending fast. We can help. We never can have a quorum of a commission make up this committee, then that's a violation of Open Meetings.
Thank you, sir. Before I know she's smarter and tutor I want to publish what I had to say I'm sorry. Okay, I'm just playing with you. We have a fair. We got a law department. We got people that volunteered to help us with all this. You got some of the best here. And the people we have here. They were going up in Detroit. They're the best that we have. from Detroit it was example I'm just here to determine your pain do everything we asked you ever take a stab taking bring people in to help us with this and polish to polish it up with Linda that people like to know because that's what they do. It's gonna help you with this policy thing. Even if I don't mean no harm, but even with with the average people with extra degrees all on Earth, but I still don't know nothing about what you're talking about. And I don't want to go over there. Probably loosely loose. I'll just say to these people because our to do lists work for us. And then I'm asking Mr. Chairman, for Mr. Warfield, and lists, Secretary so they start from the bottom up, not the top down. We'll we'll get on them. Oh, we got to get these complaints now. I didn't bother you Sure. I didn't bother you sign them all. You got to be better than me a little, little way way. Sure. At first I'm spoken to you again. Leave it alone since you want me to hurry up. I'm just saying to you again. This is the way we need to stay. We've had these people and I'm asking you to recommend what we're gonna do with these complaints because the city council ago giving money to the mayor's not gonna eat with us all because they're mad about so then I'm asking you less. Let him work with the Wayne State University. We have the they want to work with us and helping us to Burton Commissioner. Oh shit, didn't vote on it. I'll leave you alone. That's the best in my experience here. The second time I
want to say is that years ago, I you know I had the opportunity to work for county commissioner and one of the things I help them with their office words policies on the on on the county commission, in addition to that, along with working with them on other issues too, for that particular Commissioner. But but in addition to that, as to share this policy committee, I have review those policies have asked my colleagues that serve on that committee, or
recommendations
we put into time. I can't tell you how many hours that I've put into looking at each one of these policies. That's before us today. But what I can say to you is that whenever this policy committee decides to ease to vote something
else
you know, we just can't get it out of committee because we don't have those tenants there. We had great people that were reached out to reached out to us to share to to come in and give a presentation before our honorable committee. And what a great presentation that they have a given as well as a lot of notes was formulated based off their presentations. Okay, this week, I do have the ACLU coming in to speak to the policy committee, whether we have a quorum or not. The citizens of the sraight are invited to attend the meeting. So open to the public, that the presentation from ACLU is, will be given and it will be received, as well as Commissioner Bernard, who also suppress her concerns and eager to join this committee. I won't be happy to to to have her on this committee. All right, but I need I need one more person. You will
need to need to lobby for another
commission. I want to rubber stamp something out of committee. We're going to do our due diligence. We're going to plug ourselves to give
an input because this is this is this is
we serve for the citizens that
we are going to have to speed this up. So what do you need to do you need to lobby for some water conditioners to be in your committee. So because if you do not have a quorum, you will be violating the owning right? So you won't be able to lead. You're gonna have to get somebody else to be on there because you need three correct at least three unique theories. So you got one. So you've got a petition. Somebody else to be on that committee was
to the chair. Yeah. For clarification. He needs a majority of the sitting members of that committee. So whatever those numbers are, that's what you need, Commissioner and we should not meet. You cannot conduct that meeting without
a quorum present.
What is the quorum call him majority of the members, members on that committee?
Members, please.
Commissioner Bernard is present then we have a meeting. That's correct.
That we will have
correct How many members are the majority of that committee so there's three members then choose five.
That will be that will be commissioned. And
and if there were only three members
on two members and the members of this unanimous is still unanimous. You only have a two member committee.
It still would need to be two because it needs to be. Alright, so
we're going through announcements,
announcements, Michelle.
Thank you. Our next meeting is next week, Thursday, May 11, at 6:30pm. The eighth eighth precinct will be hosting at Carlisle recreational center 16630 Lhasa Road in Detroit, and then that will be our community meeting. In our community meeting for June will be Thursday, June 14 at 6:30pm and the second precinct will be hosting and the location is forthcoming.
I conclude the announcements. Fantastic. No unfinished business nucleus, closed session. Oh session.
It is. Mr. Chairman,
looking at this budget, I'll
buy an item here or
for one When he started, I'd like to make a motion at this time to eliminate to two positions. So we can hit add those two positions. I want to make a motion at this time to eliminate some of the positions. So we can add orange to new investigators which is very was very needed at this time for the office its chief investigator, so I can make the motion
that we amend this budget
by eliminating two positions, those two positions are since Yeah, yes,
analysts
and also adding a fourth person was just stated on here for administrative assistants we eliminate the four administrative systems that they plan to bring going as well as GIS. Analysts eliminate those two positions and shift two new
positions over to OCI
as investigators when I was a second for many of my colleagues on that or do anyone needs clarity,
share mad just clarify something about the record that's in
front of the board today and let them know our plants. Thank you. I think there's a motion on died about it. Which
is to clarify the budget document that's in front of the board today. This is the budget that was that has been approved so far by City Council. This document does not reflect the budget and permissions that this board will need to present to city council. So this what you have in front of you does not align with what this board said that to city council that it wanted for budget, but this is what has been approved so far by city council and so we are appealing that decision to go after the position that the board requested, which includes two additional investigator
positions. Sure. Yeah. So yeah, just a quick FYI, under announcements, you may have a 14th birthday with a central request. There's going to be a second precinct June 8. The third is June 8. That's the second Thursday of the month, when our agenda has June
14 We'll make that correction June 8. All right. I can
recall section
two section eight A of the Open Meetings Act MCL 15.268, a the department's request for board to center administrative leave without pay, but metal but with medical benefits for
police officer Rihanna. cambiando. That's number
2806 assigned to the second precinct to Earth roll call.
Mr. Chairman,
we know you get a little small
recess.
When we're going to close them out.
We're going to close the door. Thank you. Step Ahead of me.
Always. And be called session pursuant to section eight A of the Open Meeting act and c l 15.268. A the department's request for the board to consider administrative leave without pay with medical benefits or police officer Dana Sears bass 4171 assigned to the second to third Roll Call.
Vote required.
Mr. Chairman
so moved together
the whole thing to do to the chair each each motion needs to be voted
on separate Gotcha. So we're gonna vote on on closed session. A or, which would be the closed session or Brianna Fabriano as number 2806. Is there a motion
calling a closed session? Report? Any discussion? All in favor?
Aye. Aye.
All opposed? That motion as
Carrie so
chair if you need
a roll call. Roll call vote. Okay.
Roll call vote Mr.
Chair, Brian courtesan.
Yes. Commissioner Willie Bell.
Commissioner Linda Bedard.
Yes. Mr.
Willie Burton.
Yes. Commissioner Jim Holley. Yes.
Commissioner Ricardo more.
Yes Mr.
Cedric thanks.
Yes, motion passes. Mr.
Sherr? A Yes.
And no nose.
So do we have to come back in and do the cold session again?
That would be the most that'd be the most
advisable. Okay.
All right. So give us a few minutes. So like to recess for recess for five minutes, just five
minutes. We're doing it that way.
And the reason is that you're voting one motion, the motion is to close session. Now you're in closed session and you can vote again in Eclipse Does that make sense? So words
