Nice to be with you again. Like last time when I had to record it, because I was out of town. Well, one more time. So here I'm back in my little room with my fake plant. Do you guys like my fake plant behind me? I love it. I don't have to water it works for me. So before we start let's just take a minute to acknowledge what's happening right now in Ukraine and Russia. It's really I think it would disingenuous to not do that and just not connect to the unbelievable atrocities that are happening there. And so perhaps what we could do just for a minute, is if you know the practice of Tong Lin, do that. If we can just rest in silence for a minute and just connect to ourselves into those over there just as a way to set the stage that what we're doing here hopefully isn't just this sequestered, spiritually elite, and therefore potentially escapist thing that fundamentally what we're doing here can be of some benefit in one way is to connect to what's actually happening in the world around us right now, which is really it's unbelievable to me. So let's let's just pause for a second with eyes open or closed and either do a minute of tongue land or some recognition, some gathering some silence for what's happening. In the world today.
Wonderful thanks it's amazing. I think perhaps it goes without saying we forget how incredibly fortunate we are. And how really this little bubble of relative security in our country is is in fact just that. I mean, my parents lived under the in Eastern Europe under Hitler coming one way. I mean, my mom risked her life to save a wonderful Jewish woman who became a really renowned surgeon in Chicago. My father was constructed by the Russian army of men defected, never saying goodbye to his parents and so is early as my own parents and their generation, you know, the unbelievable suffering and hardship that we in the West have been, at least up until now you never know Right? Relatively protected from and so I think it really one of my big riffs over these last couple of years is what are we really doing here with the so called spiritual thingies, right or is it just a refined version of our own comfort plan? Spiritual bypassing? Or are we really doing something that can fundamentally be a benefit to the world? And because if it if it isn't, if it can't be of any benefit, it's irrelevant. Really. It's irrelevant. What are we doing? It's just philosophizing. And so I'm always working with my own stuff. I read these esoteric highfalutin kinds of things and if they have no bearing to reality, I'm not interested anymore. So I'm always reminding myself about that, just so we keep things in perspective, realize how unbelievably fragile this experiment called democracy is it there's no guarantee here, right? So just that acknowledgement to raise our gaze to connect what's happening in the world.
with this stuff, even though it's a two part gig, you can still sign up for that and catch up by listening to the first weekend. So that's still available. But some really cool things. I had a two hour interview yesterday with Dr. Anita tectum. Tom, who's a, I've been trying to get this guy for over two years, finally happened, because I wouldn't give up. He's amazing. He's He's a Tibetan physician, and a real dream yoga master. I first became familiar with his work, in fact, our program at Med law, and I was blown away. I mean, I just took so many notes. I said, My God, this guy is the total real deal. Here's a real dream yoga master. And so I had a really fun and Rob with him yesterday for two hours talking about all kinds of stuff. You'll see. So that's coming up. I just have to edit it, do the usual things. So that's on the docket. I also have I'm in contact, some really cool things happening I'm involved with I think I might have told you this kind of scientific Adigun academic study group. We get together once a month. These are big hitters that come to this Tom that's in your Evan Thompson. I mean, Rupert Spira we had group inspire on this week. Actually, I'm in contact with him as well. And if you don't know of his work, I'm going to try to pose to you he has in one of his books, this unbelievable chapter if you're not familiar with his work called consciousnesses Dream, which is the single best kind of commentary on the dream analogy since what's called the medulla carica, which is the other party which is the classic Hindu texts using arguably one of the principal who punish odds they want to kill Parishad talking about the role of the dream and the dream analogy and Rupert's chapter and as it's bloody brilliant. And so we had him on this week and I'm in contact with the secretaries tried to get him like three months out, but I think there's a pretty good chance I can get Robert on board, I'm going to try to send to you all. So link, I can extract that chapter send it to you. It's mind blowing. Also been contact because of the science group. I've made friends through with a cosmologists, a colleague of Stephen Hawking's amazing, we're not a car I look him up. He's like, amazing, genius kind of guy. And he's agreed to do an interview with me and I can't wait to talk to this astrophysicist, cosmologist about the relationship of inner space, outer space and I'm just a ton of really cool things. So I'm super psyched. There's a lot of cool things happening more, but that's enough for now. So we left off last time page 77, I believe chapter six, a fundamental meditation. I think we did pretty sure. So as usual, I just read away and if something catches my fancy, I just stop and just spontaneously riff, which is why I like these sessions so much. Okay. One big difference between lucid dreaming and Dream Yoga is that typically speaking, there are no meditations involved with lucid dreaming, there's no real yoga. So with the meditation in this chapter, we're stepping directly into the world of Dream Yoga. The core meditation for Dream Yoga, and I talked about this with Dr. Anita yesterday, you know, he said same thing he said, a lucid dream was a mind full dream. nondistracted dream or recollected. dream a dream when you know that you're dreaming. Acquire meditation if your dream yoga is also the most accessible, so practice mindfulness. Excuse me, even if you elect to never practice in your dreams. Mindfulness Meditation is just here will help you have more lucid dreams. For sure. Studies have shown this. Every time I do a program, I do a little poll. How many people here have had a lucid dream hands go up? How many people are meditators, hands go up. direct correlation. Meditation will also help you remember your dreams. And make them more clear and stable. But before we describe how to do the mindfulness meditation, listen for the view behind it. So obviously, you know right view, when I did my presentation with the middle group. That's what I come focused on the right view of the dream at the end of time, the death of death. Fundamentally. And so right view is really pretty solid as a reason. It's the first and arguably foremost of all the eightfold factors to the path of enlightenment right view is everything.
Okay, so the nature of mindfulness, right mindfulness is the art of keeping your mind whole. I forgot to tell you this. Well, this is the other thing is happening. Holy crap. So much is happening. Right now. So just last week, I got I finally got my two book contract. I'm so excited about it. But here check this out. This is hysterical. I have to throw this in. So here's here's the story behind these two books, right? So totally forgot about this. This is kind of big news. It's hard to get a one book contract now little on two books. That's not easy. So I'm really really pleased about that. But here's so I did the pitch to the publisher. We had a zoom thing everything. And they were really into it. And so I was ah, this is awesome. This is great. So here's here's what how these two books came about. So I was halfway through last last December. Not December 21. But December of 20. I was halfway through this one book. And I realized one morning I said, Hey, wait, I gotta write. I have to write a prequel. I have to write a book to situate this particular book. So I dropped that book. And I spent a better part of last year writing this is pretty cool. But okay on mindfulness, the okay on mindfulness workbook, exploring the wonders of the mind. And so I wrote that whole bloody book pretty quickly because materials pretty familiar to me. And and then so I figured I had that book two pitches, a completed manuscript, and a draft of the second one and so so here's the kicker, right? So they come back and they go, yeah, we'll give you a two book deal. But we want the second book first. And I was like, what I mean, the whole reason I stopped to write the second book was to situate the first book. And so now a little bit of panic on this one, but I think I can do it. On the book that's done. I have to put that on ice. That's not the second book and I have to scramble to finish the first book. I think I thought I had a year and a half to finish it. Now. I have to finish it by July. So anyway, the good news came with a little asterisk. It's called stress deadlines. But in order to get the two book contract, I kind of had to do it, which is fine, puts a little bit of healthy pressure on me. But anyway, that's kind of cool. I'm excited about it. So the the the second book, which is now the first book, is a whole book on the reverse medications, practice of open awareness in the practices that situate this, I think this is an important book and I think they wanted it because it's completely applicable for dealing with everything that's happening right now in the world. All the hardship, the pain, all the crap. These meditations are specifically designed to work with those and that's why they said I you know, let's get this out there. Right now, so I should Okay, so anyway, yeah, I wanted to share that with you, your first people. I'm sharing it with good news for me anyway. And of course, it's all about me. So what's good? Okay, so here we go. Mindfulness is the art of keeping your mind on the present moment. Instead in contrast to mindlessness, which is when your mind drifts away from what's happening, we all know this right? Mindfulness is virtually synonymous with distraction and mindfulness mindless, mindless ness is virtually synonymous with distraction. The mindfulness is a synonym for non distraction the three stages Yeah, this is from my main teacher katg or Khenpo tsultrim. Capoeira, he describes three forms of mindfulness. This is really helpful to me. The first is deliberate or effortful mindfulness with practice law, this level matures into effortless mindfulness. And then effortless mindfulness has two aspects exoteric outer esoteric inner, and the exoteric level, mindfulness gets easier and eventually effortless. You find yourself being more and more present. The esoteric aspect is that effortless mindfulness is associated with awareness of the true nature of mind. We'll see why this is important shortly. With sustained practice, effortless mindfulness matures into spontaneous mindfulness and you can move my I have a new computer and it has a new keyboard that is on a cable on a battery. And if I lean against it, like I'm prone to do, it'll shut me out. There we go. With sustained effort, practice, effortless mindfulness matures into spontaneous mindfulness. Some of you may have already noticed this, it just happens. More spontaneously, right? There's the fruition a level on the exoteric level. This is when you're mindful all the time, you're never distracted. On the esoteric level, this quality of mindfulness is never distracted from the true nature of mind. We start with effortful mindfulness, which is a relatively coarse level of mindfulness that dissolves as we fall asleep. They also dissolves when we die, but it's the starting point. We start with a more entry catchment, the gross entry level practice with practice is level refines into the effortless and then spontaneous stages which do not dissolve that's no small thing.
To connect to a quality of mind that does not disintegrate, that actually does not dissolve that you can take refuge in when you die the dream at the time or every night when you fall into your nocturnal dreams. And this is at one level this is the the some fruition away to work with awake initiated lucid dream where you bring awareness with you right? You actually bring your lucidity with you this practice is the best way to do that. It's not easy, but you can definitely do it. Actually how guy potentially I'm going to be interviewing who who claims to do this regularly. We'll see. more of that later. This means that these are more advanced levels are qualities of mind that you can hold on to when you go to sleep and they keep you aware of what's happening with your mind. phenomenologically phenomenology is basically just the study of first person experiences that you've experienced all together big fancy, fancy philosophical term. Imagine a fireman's pole, the ones that they would jump on to and slide down to the race to their truck, right. The old iron outs pole is similar but with a twist, a canonical twist so to speak. It's conical in shape. Why did the top Anthony out at the bottom? This is what veteran on Iron slide down as they descend into consciously. Ever full mindfulness is the widest image that you jump onto it and you grab onto it. Like a big teddy bear kind of thing. Ever for mindfulness is the widest and is what we start with is we lay down to go to sleep spontaneous mindfulness is the narrow earth right? It's what we end up with is we drop into sleep so then it goes from really why cone like to like a filament floss Mental Floss, mental lucidity floss. The taper Paul of these three stages of mindfulness gives us something we can hang on to as we slide from the world of form into formal sleep. In other words, deliberate mindfulness starts with bringing awareness to some form, this case body breath, Mantra, whatever candle and evolves until we become aware of Formless awareness itself. So this is also where blends into this practice of open awareness which is like my big main favorite practice the present these days such a powerful meditation these three stages of mindfulness also have an encouraging practical application for meditation in general. When we first start to practice mindfulness, it takes effort. But remember Jay called manual labor, it takes work to reverse the tide default mode network to reverse the default mode network from distraction really back to presence. Now it takes work. When we first start to practice, mindfulness takes effort. We're starting to turn against the enormous tide of mindlessness distraction. If we just go along with the usual stream of minus which which most people unwittingly do, we don't feel it's enormous pole. We're going with the flow. But the minute we sit down and begin to practice mindfulness meditation, the torrent of mindlessness is fully felt. Have you noticed this, right? You sit down meditation, it's like wow, this is no fun. My mind was never this crazy. Well, yeah, it was you never saw it, right? That's when you really see the force. Of your mind what happens when you stop or try to we start to twitch and eventually to go stir crazy as we wrestle with the forest have a lifetime of distraction, come up or mature. One of my other main teachers says really interesting statement, where he says it's really our addiction lust for movement is the primary addiction in samsara. It is really interesting, or addiction to movement. Very interesting because movement, literally in vegetariana language thought is referred to as movement of mind. So we're all thought junkies were addicted to the display of our mind. And also, we're just addicted to action karma. That's the word for karma. Tibetan is Les le H transliteration, which means action movement. We're addicted to it. Don't think so? Try sitting still for a couple hours. You realize how addicted you are. That's what I discovered in the first three months of my really long retreat. I think I write about this in my book, first of all, power and pain. really felt like a detox center to me, because I was so confined. So restricted. And it was really difficult, like all these avenues for movement distraction, were totally taken away, and I really felt it was so painful for me. I finally figured out it's like, holy crap. I'm in a detox center here. I'm really being detoxified from my addiction. To movement was really powerful and really painful.
But the more you practice, the easier it gets right. Instead of constantly cutting the groove of mindlessness, we begin to fall into the groove of mindfulness. Our attention naturally starts to flow in that healthy direction. This is when effortful mindfulness matures at the effortless mindfulness. So most of the effort meditation does, in fact, come upfront. Having this you can encourage us to sustain the practice, especially at the outset. It's like this loading dose thing you have to kind of really go over this primordial hump, and then pay attention when first time I heard Pema children decades ago, talk about this stuff. She mentioned this. You know, pay attention to how you live your life and realize how often we're just feeding. We're just continuing to spin that samsaric prayer wheel keeping it going keeping it spinning, some service prayer, keep it moving, keep it moving. Every time we capitulate to distraction, nine lucidity, mindlessness, that's our default. That's what we practice all the time. It may seem like we're training the mind we're directing the flow of our attention to mindlessness to the mindfulness. This is provisionally true, but on a deeper level. Mindfulness is the natural state of mind. And this is really important. I write quite a bit about this and what is now my second book, which I thought was gonna be the first book, The two types of ways the two ways of looking at meditation. You've heard me talk about this. If we just leave the mind alone, it would always be mindful, leaving it alone properly is the art of meditation, doing nothing, right, just learning how to do it. Well. This is what it means to say the effortless and spontaneous mindfulness or mindful of the true nature of the mind, which is always naturally mindful. The mind of a Buddha is never distracted, always fully present or awake to what's happening in here. Now this is one reason why they all their dreams are lucid. If they even have them at a certain point, even dreams cease. But until they until they do if they have a dream, it's always lucid. Why? Because they're awake, mindful lucid to the contents of their mind always 24/7. This means that the only thing we really have to do is just to realize effortless and spontaneous mindfulness to simply relax right open. Just relax into the true nature of your mind, clear light mind and you will be forever present and awake. Deepak Chopra said this was decades ago, when he said all this effort to learn when all we really need to do is remember all this effort to acquire Qi when all we have to do is really relax. All our effort meditation culminates in the ability to relax precisely what happens when we die. Forced relaxation, right? It's like when you get on the planes, right? Try to relax. That's an oxymoron. Right? But that's what happens when we die. It's a forced openness. It's a forced relaxation, literally resting and ultimate peace, right? Yeah, usually the untrained mind can't rest in peace. Because it goes stir crazy. And it's our inability to rest in that absolute peace now and at the moment of death, that will it continue us into the cycle involuntarily spinning the prayer wheel of samsara, the wheel of life, coming back into form thought to thought day to day life to life. So this process works with the phenomenology of reincarnation, absolutely. Your inability to rest in peace now the word peace comes from a root that means attached fixate to the present in this case, how interesting is that? So we say Rest in peace, but most people can't rest in peace. If there's nothing to do. It's too boring. I got to do something. Well, okay, you want to do something? Let's take another life right, involuntary this is all connected to the Bardo stuff. At the highest stages of the path, you don't have to do a thing. That's what makes it so hard. Well, I just finished reviewing today. This is the other awesome things are happening. So my dear friends is V or Shalom. I think I've been sharing some of his amazing work over the last couple of years. Dear friend of mine. Right author of the Kaduna experience of primordial Torah Jewish mysticism at its best. He just sent me his book. I just endorsed it today, called the primordial light, which is actually a more user friendly version of the kudu my experience, and I'm going to talk more about this later because I'm going to bring it back on but he talks about the five paths, passive contraction, relaxation, integration, vastness and freedom. And the path of freedom. The summation of the path of freedom is so profound. It's so interesting. And really, on one level, it's unbelievably simple. Just relax. Everything You Always could ever want look for is always already present right here right now. And he writes about this in a really incisive way using kabbalistic teachings post rabbinical teachings, and this could do my stuff, which was really really cool. So yeah, that he told me that that probably will be out by the end of the year short book on 25 pages or something. But those of you who have interest in Jewish mysticism, this guy's a rock star.
You finally become a true human being instead of an insatiable human doing, I've come to realize that you can't be a Buddha before you become a full human being. And I've actually think pretty well, somewhat convinced that actually being a human being fully that actually is Buddha. So don't try to be a Buddha try to be fully human. Try to be here. Right now. Fully 100% of ROM das had this 50 years ago. If you do that 100% That is the Buddha. So these entry level practices these are also fruition Oh, man, they go all the way. These practices go really fire, mindfulness and lucidity to fully understand the power of mindfulness we need to expand our understanding of lucidity is just codeword right code language of what it means to be awake and present for what's happening during the day or night. In an expanded sense, lucidity is virtually identical to mindfulness or even bigger literally awareness. A lucid dream is an aware dream. So lucidity is a code word, not just for mindfulness but also for awareness. Mindfulness is therefore a way to practice lucidity throughout the day, for sure. It's a way to wake up to become lucid to what's happening right now. Be awake now and you will be awake during sleep and dream what computer set of death applies here. What is found now is found that you want to know how you're going to die. Look at the way you live. What is not found now is not found them disappear mechanics causality almost like physics level stuff. What is found that is found out what is found now is found in other words mindlessness is a moment to moment expression of being asleep. And mindfulness is a moment to moment expression of being awake. The Sufis proclaimed that anything outside the present moment is a dream. Ah, I would I would even correct that. I wrote this, you know, what, seven years ago? The notion of this I think is provisionally true. But it's actually even much bigger than that. Like my favorite running definition. Now dream is just manifestation of mine so I think it goes even farther than the Sufi proclamation. And a song of realization called a Doha called the awakening of dawn I mean awakening at dawn from the sleep of ignorance. Written by the 19th century Tibetan master check your link bow there's a verse that says quote right now the beings of this be realms and mindlessness they all are asleep. Awake, they roam in their blinded states, and quote, this ties in totally, there's so much tied in here, right? Remember the whole the wheel of life the baba chakra that I always have up behind me. The first link that actually causes death, blind grandmother ignorance. So awake, they roam in their blinded state. So this is an allusion to this blind grandmother. scientists talk about inattentional blindness, which is when you fail to notice something that is fully visible. Because your attention has been directed elsewhere, inattentional blindness sometimes actually also called just attentional blindness, I've heard it both ways, is the more intense form of distraction or mindless this that can literally kill. I mean, how many times I would I mean, I used to cycle I used to be a cyclist. There's no way I would ride my bike on the side of a road anymore. I know people friends have been hit by cars and in the ER, read almost daily, especially in Boulder where I live. There's lots of cyclist. People are getting smacked all the time that people get distracted boom. Other forms of inattentional blindness are really at play with everything that's happening in the world now. Distracted people don't notice things. So the stuff that may seem like oh, this is so sweet. This is this little meditation thing, isn't it? Isn't that nice relegated to these little things. It has tremendous explanatory and prescriptive power to what's happening in the world today. 100% you can reduce all the vast crap show that's happening to these fundamental reducible irreducible spiritual principles. 100% absolutely healthy form of reductionism. How many times have you been distracted by something and then bumped into or even crashed into an object right? Studies of inattentional blindness revealed the visual perception is more than just photons hitting your eyes and activating your brain. To really see you must pay attention. Oh, I talk about this so much right in the book we discussed last year dreams of light part three, the whole large part of parts reading the science is about exactly the stuff
is easy to extrapolate from the studies and say that natural perception is more than thoughts or images hitting your mind's eye and activating your brain. In fact, so many studies now are showing this. You know, we have this again, there's so much to say here. This is completely ridiculous notion that most of what we see is coming in representationalism. Light comes in we perceive things well, so many studies have actually shown it's the other way around. Most of what we see is actually going the other way. Most of what we see is actually a projection from the outside in. I mean from the inside out, and in the in the deepest, most esoteric teachings of what are called toggle. This has unbelievably profound implications it literally from the heart center are these channels of light. That literally that when you open your eyes at the speed of sight, you project for the entire world stuff is mind bendingly profound but that's for a different books to really see and therefore become lucid in your inner MindScape. You must pay attention right? You must be present to win. So attention in this training is at the heart of lucidity. Mindfulness Meditation is a part of this training. This is where we need to remember this sleep is a park of ignorance. This is a normal ignorance like not knowing anything, this is what's this is my rig bot rig person knowing wisdom. My rigpa that's the first blind grandmother the first Madonna that's the type of events we're talking about being ignorant about the nature of reality. This is the ignorance of the Buddha awaken from look back upon from his awakens perspective and then saw everybody still trapped within everyone in the world is asleep. You don't think so? Okay. Let's do a state check right now. Look up look at the world around you. Do you see the room around you? Do you see it is relatively solid, lasting and independent. You think it's out there? Yeah, everybody in this room or honestly would raise their hands. Yep. Yep. That's the way I see the world. You're asleep. That's the classic dream sign that you're still asleep in samsara. You see the world in this way, which is axiomatic. This is the way the world is no, it isn't. No, it's a product of ignorance to see the world as reified, solid, independent way the world is not that. So you want the most immediate instant instant dream sight. You want to know if you're asleep? You see this world may separate from you the people in Ukraine separate from you. You're sleeping. So how can you work with this fundamental ignorance? How can we like the Buddha wake up from it by counteracting it's moment to moment expression, which is distraction, this is the way you whittle away at it. Every time you come back to the present moment. Every time you're mindful, that's a mini Buddha with Lama, Dr. Anita said yesterday, it was so cool. It's a mini Buddha. Every time you act with kindness, generosity, every time you're fully present, you're you're momentarily awake your momentary mini Buddha in that instant so you want to become a big motor. Practice many Buddhists all the time many Oh, this is nice alliteration, right? Many many Buddha's right. That's the practice. In other words, we can wake up by practicing mindfulness meditation and so sorry, as samsaric beings are sleepwalkers, we return this is so interesting, like, you know, we're going through the series, by the way, join us next Wednesday, like with Dr. Ed. We're really kind of ramping up the sleep doctor thing. He's going through this little riff on parasomnias it's really interesting. There's over 100 And I don't know five, six or so sleep disorders. It's really interesting to look at some of these sleep disorders parasomnias not only from a clinical biological, psychological point of view, but also metaphoric spiritual point of view. Some of these sleep diseases are really mirror they're exaggerated instances of the sleep of which we don't even know where afflicted is samsaric beings we return repeatedly to any level of sleep, whether it's nighttime sleep, or daily distraction, because it recharges the samsaric minds. This next thing is so important. Distraction as the expression of ignorance is the sustenance of samsara. Let me say that again. Distraction is the expression of ignorance is the sustenance of samsara. This is how we go to sleep and become non lucid moment to moment to moment. Every time we capitulate to distraction. We're practicing samsara. This is what sustains the non lucid trajectory, the samsaric trajectory, and that is our default mode network. That's what we do all the time. That's why we're so good. At being asleep. We keep practicing it. When we get lost in the sleep of ignorance lost in thought distraction, your dreams are samsaric lights are Fred. We hit the refresh button on confusion.
I remember this so well. I have to show the story when I first did my first day. My first we done it when I did my first 30 day retreat Kaupas ago decades ago. I remember so clearly, you know it really intensive practice all day long. And I remember I write about this in my power in a book I think. I remember going to sleep every night and just like oh just gorging just feasting on the Cinemax of my own mind. I was like, I'll do this meditation stuff all day. Okay, I'll tough it out. But when I'm in bed, I just let my mind is like it was like I was just at a big feast. Like an orgy of some sorrows. I couldn't get enough. And I didn't realize it at the time because I was just trying to survive, you know, it's like, Ah, yes, I need to take refuge in my stupidity. And my distraction is only later that I realized oh my god. I have to go back to that space to i to soak in that mindlessness. And that distraction is the kind of samsaric refuge from the blistering practice of the day. It was really revelatory experience for me. So I'd hit the refresh button on samsara. Every time I'm distracted. We do it all the time. With mindfulness meditation, we're working with ignorance that sleep as it manifests and it's most common in immediate form, which is distraction This is the big statement. The point is this. The distractions in daily life in the unconsciousness asleep are two faces of the same ignorance. Let me say that again. The distractions in daily life and the unconsciousness of sleep, and now lucid dreams are two faces of the same ignorance. It's the same phenomenology thing happening at these two levels. So again, we're practicing it as our default mode of practice. We're practicing samsara confusion, distraction, that lucidity all the time. No wonder we're so good at it. unrecognized discursive thought is just the way we go to sleep moment to moment. Estimates put the number of these thoughts at around 70,000 per day. I mean, the estimates go all the way over from 8000 to 80,000. Who knows? As we have seen Buddhists don't sleep at night. Nor do they sleep during the day. They're never distracted, they never forget. So forgetfulness is another way to address this important topic in this regard mindlessness, with an emphasis on the less is actually a primordial form of primordial forgetfulness. That's why the Roger region said so beautifully right. Amazing statement. The essence of spiritual practice is remembrance. We constantly forget to be present. Mindfulness with an emphasis on the full isn't the expression or practice of remembering literally re member to rejoin in many ways, the essence of spiritual llll and we go when I say here yeah, in essence, the essence the ship, spiritual practices remembrance, remembering to come back to the present moment to the practice of mindfulness, remembering to be kind, compassionate to practices like low John the mind training of bodhichitta bodhichitta. We've been corrected by a translator. He wrote to me after I use a wonderful French scholar, he said, Andrew, Andrew, it's not an enlightened cat. It's not a bodhichitta we've been saying this for 40 years. It's not an enlightened cat. It's bodhichitta these translators, they just get such a bug up there. But you know, I mean, if you don't, I love them to death. Don't get me wrong, but it's like if I say anything to these people, and I mean, they call me on it. Andrew, don't you realize oh, no, I didn't sorry. Thanks, sort of body Tita. Remembering to be kind, compassionate, remembering that you're already a Buddha. Do these deeper practices like deity yoga Maha Mudra Xhosa? The basis of samsara is just this we forgot. That's the fundamental difference between a sentient being and a Buddha, sentient beings have forgotten that they're Buddhists but is never forget. So zen like conclusion. Again, Zen like and Deepak Chopra. Like all this effort to learn when all we really have to do is remember
the Tibetan word for mindfulness is Trungpa, which means to recollect to remember that's all central This is the word memory itself goes back to the Latin more, which means mindful makes sense. If forgetfulness is a problem, remembrance is the solution. And the practice of remembrance of waking up starts with remembering to come back to the present moment with mindfulness. This simple practice has monumental repercussions. This is the other thing when I talk to Dr. Anita yesterday, I was so thrilled to hear him say so many things that were completely resonant with what I've been sharing with you all. Basically, the preliminaries are more important than the main practice and he talked so much about the importance of diet for good sleep and good dream. Fantastic. As a physician, he really could talk about that. And then he talked about the unbelievable role, the importance of meditation, for Dream Yoga. So again, exactly the same thing we're saying here. And the practice of remembrance of waking up starts with remembering to come back to the present moment, mindfulness for simple practices, monumental repercussions. The spirit of re memering starts with mindfulness that ends with Buddha. Practicing remembrance, so I don't I don't remember this section. This is kind of cool. It's fun to read a book I haven't read since I wrote it. That's kind of fun. forgetfulness, mindfulness, dismembers memory remembers during the Last Supper, Christ broke the bread and said to his disciples, this is my body, which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me. The forgetfulness that we manifest moment to moment is just a daily iteration of the primordial amnesia that occurs when we forget our true nature, our clear light mind and stray from this Christ consciousness with them. The return to Christ or the Buddha within begins when we return to the present moment, we start to heal the primordial fracture, the dismemberment, the fracturing away from the psyche, of the psyche, from the clear light mind that results in duality. Every time we come back to notice this is this cannot be overstated. So non duality Yeah, maybe someday in the future when I'm lucky. No non duality right now not to come back to the present moment. That's a mini Buddha. That's a moment of non duality. You break away fracture and destruction. That's a moment of duality. So these drops out up, you want to practice non duality, practice being present and fully now. Oh, yeah, here I just said it's about that. Non duality, which is the sentiment for alignment for many is an abstract notion. We don't realize that non duality is something we can practice. Every time we come back to your breath or whatever in mindfulness, or to the present moment. You are practicing enlightenment and healing the primordial dismemberment. dismemberment that continues to reverberate in the many dismemberment that we call. Not even sure that's a word, but you get the idea that we call mindlessness. You're taking a step on the spiritual path heading back to the Buddha or Christ within you. Every time you stop stepping away from the border of Christ. And stop stepping back to the present moment. You'll find a bit of hiding within this very moment in mindfulness will introduce you to him how am I doing? timewise okay. Just like tiny drops of water can eventually become an ocean tiny moments of remembrance can eventually heal this primordial dismemberment. The practice of moment to moment non duality eventually results in non duality. We may think that enlightenment exists somewhere in the big future out there and then but the key to actualizing it is right here. And now. This is really important because it empowers this and also instills a sense of responsibility, right? You want to wake up, it's your choice. Non duality seems so distant only because we keep walking away from it every time we break away and just remember, from the present moment without mindlessness, we're taking notice step away from who we truly are and what we really want. We're unwittingly we unwittingly keep distancing ourselves literally distract. Literally topologically means to pull apart. Oh, interesting is that distract, pull apart. So every time you're distracted, you're pulling apart from the present moment and then eventually from the nature of mind and reality itself. May major point here we're stuck in samsara because we keep practicing it or default. We're stuck in duality because we continue to exercise. So good Rinpoche said to end distraction is to end samsara. The Tibetan Book that it says do not be distracted. This is the dividing line. We're sending budding sentient beings. We're Buddhists and santim beings are separated. It said in an instant they are separated and in an instant, complete enlightenment. So by practicing non distraction, we're going to wake up and samsara this is exactly the same distraction that makes us non lucid to our dreams.
The following mindfulness meditation is therefore nothing more than the formal practice of lucidity. So here's what I'm going to recommend we do. This stuff is is pretty repetitious repetition for us right I'm gonna skim this I mean you guys know all this stuff. Um Let me just speed through this real quick and see if it's something's we're saying here. Yeah, this waking down thing but this you guys don't know all this stuff. So this is I'm going to skip some of the stuff is just really we know this. But there are a couple things here that maybe we're saying this waking down thing. Philosopher drew letter. This is page 84 writes almost all spiritual traditions use posture and gestures a means whereby we enter in relation into relation with the divine. This bodies roots reached down into the soil of an Oregon organismic vitality, where the consciousness where the conscious mind cannot follow. That's good. Our body is a direct link to reality, right? This whole notion of waking down which the psyche the most superficial aspect of mind cannot take into relating to the body is not merely simple minded, it's trans minded. It leads you beyond the conceptual mind and to the truth within deception cannot follow you into your body. This is what we talk about or what I talk about. Remember the three wisdom tools sharing, contemplating meditating, and just I just metabolize, access to filtration and purification purification system. Concepts can't follow you into your body. Perception can't follow you into your body. And that's why we're not talking just about this outer body. But when you go to the innermost truest body what does that what does that innermost Jewess body called body of truth? Truth body Dharmakaya. So this is why the whole notion of waking down into the center of your central self key. This is for lie detectors, which takes subtle changes in the unconscious body or the conscious mind is chattering away. Consciously you can lie but unconsciously you cannot your body like your dreams is a truth teller. You're the psyche may be speaking your truth but your body speaks another. Remember that the practices of the night are about going deep into the mind which means going deep into the body. This is the body phase. This is why the body phase of meditation is so important in many ways the both the ground and the fruition of the path. Waking up is a synonym for enlightenment but it's just as valid talked about waking down the other person I mean, possibly going to be in contact with his name is handle bond or some of you may know him. Oh, you could say he coined this term. Oh my god. 30 years ago, he wrote this book. I think it's actually by that title, waking down. So that's the first time I heard this term like three decades ago. Since then it's become almost as common and I emphasize it as much as waking up, waking down, so I might be in contact with him to get him on as well. Phase one of the technique of meditation invites that awakening long chunk ba the great Zen master, supreme primordial wisdom abides in the body in Sri Aurobindo echoes the work of transformation is about the descent of the Spirit into the flesh, embodiment more than transcendence. So again, the rest of the stuff I we really do know this so I'll go up to the waking up stuff you guys know all this meditation instruction stuff. PAGE 86. Waking up when we say thinking is also labeled right and meditation. We're actually saying, wake up. We're waking up to the fact that we've strayed from our body and breath. Thinking is simultaneously a recognition of non lucidity or detection that we've drifted off into a mini non lucid daydream. And it is the practice of lucidity and waking up from that drift. Get my drift. I can't help myself. Somebody told me I'm a Gemini Geminis. You're supposed to love wordplay. I guess that's true. I love to play with words. Once again if we become lucid to the contents of our mind now we will do so when we dream and when we die. It's exactly the same process. We get hooked into those dreams in exactly the same way we get hooked into thoughts. It's just non lucidity happening at two levels. This is a really important statement. Some scientists say that we're less we're aware of less than 1% of what goes on in the mind at any given instant. In other words, we're not lucid to 99% of what's happening inside. It's no wonder we're not losing to our dreams. See for yourself. How often are you fully present? How often are you distracted with practice advanced lucidity practitioners can reverse these numbers instead of being lucid, just 1% of what's happening. We can become lucid to 99 and then 100%.
Lucid dreams then become a natural and common occurrence. I'm sure you've discovered this. You do a meditation retreat. I mean for me, directly proportional. The more I meditate the more lucid dreams I have. To just this important point another way every time we unconsciously follow a random thought we're practicing non lucidity. So whether we know or not, we're always practicing. We're always becoming better or increasingly familiar with the very word in Tibetan calm to become familiar with either mindfulness and mindlessness lucidity analysis, that's why we're so bloody good at it. We practice it all the time. That's why we're so good at non lucid dreams. There are many other benefits of meditation or mindfulness or lucid dreaming. For example, once you're lucid in a dream, the stability of your city is nothing more than the stability of your mind. There's no pre existing dreamscape in there that you're popping into. So if you're complaining about fractured sleeting unstable dreams Wow, what is that a representation of fractured fleeting, unstable mind. So meditation also increases those qualities of stability that until you get to the point right, where you can't tell the difference. Not saying day and dream is deferring. This is as meditation as it can be Milarepa not only does mindfulness meditation, spark more lucid dreams that also brings about increased stability and clarity of those dreams. Therefore, once again, dreams are truth tellers. Your mind becomes more stable, clearer and less fragmented. In meditation, your dreams become more clear, stable and less fragmented. They're also more easily remembered the stability and clarity of your dreams is nothing more than the stability and clarity of attention mind itself. Last paragraph, this tenant these tenets lucidity played out in my experience when I go into retreat and all the worldly distractions are removed my mind slowly transitions from mindlessness into mindfulness. Because I'm practicing mindfulness all day I gradually find myself more aware of my dreams. Eventually, my non lucid dreams are replaced with lucid dreams and finally they become more clear and stable. Instead of the colloquialism what goes up must come down for the Dream yogi. It is what goes down during the day must come up at night. Oh, that's so clever. So you want to be lucid at night, meditate during that day, double, triple exclamation point. Okay, so let me mark this number nine and we can have a little q&a I have a 730 commitment. So I've got 20 minutes to hang and chat and I'm going to answer one question that did get piped down. And then we can have a little live discussion and I can also chat the chat column. So let me pull up this one that did come in
Okay, metal Hi. I'm a psychic very cool. When I go deep into meditation, I see sacred geometry and divine being sending me light. Is this another illusory world I have created? Well, yes and no. So you know, a couple things here. Nice question. Is quality being psychic? It's actually just a not just not a negative statement. It's a it's a consequence of just being open. So psychics are just people who are more sensitive, more open. If you're open, you become a psychic. If you're close, you know you don't. So, psychic capacities are either spontaneously brought about two degrees of openness or can be nurtured through practice. It's gotten really the practice of what's called relative city relative power. psychic powers are part of that. But I go deep into meditation, I see sacred geometry that could be a ton of different things, too, but there's so much to say just not that. Fundamentally the sacred geometrical forms, these are these are part of what are called toggle visions. And so if you really want to explore this battle line, that particular tradition has a lot to say about the kind of sacred light geometric forms that are the matrix of reality really deep stuff. You see divine beings. Fantastic. They're everywhere. Sending me light I love it. They're all over the place. These divine beings are everywhere. We can tap into them. Is this another illusory world I have created? No, not in that level. And so this is what No, it wasn't yesterday with Dr. Anita is this is with Rupert Spyros. So he said exactly what I write about in dreams a light book. When we use the word illusory, it has a very particular meaning illusion has a very particular meaning. It doesn't mean things don't exist. It means that the status of their existence is not in harmony with their reality. In other words, things are illusory and in terms of what they really are that's what illusion means. So illusory is another one of these kind of get multi valid terms. You're not creating that you're dis covering that. That's something that's a consequence of openness. When that when you talk about illusory world, another illusory world that I've created that seems to intimate that you're creating an illusory world well, yes, on one level you are and what that means is you're creating imputing constructing your version of reality based on all these things I talked about so much in my book dreams of light, and therefore you plaster fundamentally your image of yourself your reality onto the world. That's what it means to create the illusory world doesn't mean to you're actually creating like the new age thing. I create my reality. No, no, no, no, you don't have that power. But what you do like a child with a coloring book is you color it in and all the things that you call her in is illusory, that it is not it that these are called adventitious, defilements. They're not inherent to the display. That's the illusion, right? So we have to be quite careful when we start talking about things like this, the subtle granularity of language. It's really easy to get tripped up with words. And so therefore, when you use something like illusory and illusion, it has a very specific meaning in this business. So hope, hope that addresses your question. Okay, my life so if there's any others, I'll check the chat column.
I haven't seen any in the chat, but we did. Trim with his hand up so Okay, muted. Fire away.
Let me check the chat column. In the meantime, go ahead. Prem.
No Sir Andrew. excellent discussion. As always a question a toward the beginning of your comments today. You mentioned an author who had a chapter consciousness as dream
consciousnesses dream, right. I'll see. I'll send you the link. I'll post it on the next. I'm sorry,
I didn't catch the author or the Rupert's fire.
Are you PRT? SP IRA. If you don't know him, he's worth looking into. He's he's really I'm a big fan of his actually.
What's the title of the book?
Ah ha, ah, I can't remember.
Oh, look it up on Amazon. This is the spiritual practices remembrance.
This just shows you how much I forget that there's a chapter it was the sea chapter for science discussion this week. It's it's really really brilliant. deep exploration of the dream analogy, and exploring non duality to the demonology. So if you don't know Rupert stuff, he's he's pretty remarkable. And again, I think hopefully, fingers crossed. I have contact with his people. Hopefully I can get him on and interview him. I think three months out they said sometime in May or June, but he's he's pretty deep thinker, very smart guy. And he held when we did this thing with all these, you know, there was some really hardcore physicalist scientist types there and he held his ground very, very nicely with all these approaches. Anyway, it's called consciousnesses dream from a book that remains in the Dharmakaya for me at this moment,
Okay, sounds good. Then you also mentioned that phenomenology is the study of first person experience well,
if phenomenology is again, this this term, I cut you off, continue. Let me let me just see where you're going with it.
And so then I thought, Okay, first person experience. And then I sort of tried to put it in the framework of the skin those and my, my when I experienced things, what arises in the framework of skin does is feeling right. I have you know, and then that then percolates up into thought, or interpretation or whatever. Right? And so as opposed to like how scientists would study a phenomenon in which they they don't want to study the their first person feeling of, of, you know, what's going on in the Large Hadron Collider, they want actual data or whatever right? So, so, if you have any comments about you know, what is phenomenology, you know, I mean, specifically, is it is it, noticing the feeling and Is that Is that what it means to be lucid
Oh, well, yeah, there's lots thrown out here. So, on one level, yes, being aware of the phenomenological display, you could say that's a moment of lucidity, you're aware of what's actually happening. Science doesn't deal with phenomenology in this regard. phenomenology, as as a philosophy is categorically dismissed as any kind of a method. In fact, that's why I cite a lot of scientists like don't pay much attention to the classic phenomenologist Husserl on the others because there's there's no there's no really there's no particular method. And rightly so phenomenology, as a thought is a is a philosophical tradition. And you can look this stuff up. There's, again, it's one of these terms that there's a whole school of thought around it and there's phenomenological you look it up in the Oxford English Dictionary, how it's defined and all the different ways besides just per se are not interested in that sort of thing. You could say on one level, they're interested in phenomena. That's what they studied, but they're not that interested in phenomenology because that is that is super subjective, and scientists profess to be objective, which is bullshit Pardon? Pardon my language. They're not objective. I mean, give me a break. They think they are some level replicability, reproducibility in a light, but objectivity, no way. So I'll pause for a second there and see, you know, how do you want me to relate this to the scandal? The scandals are basically the Buddha's description of the phenomenology of the construction of the self, right. So that's the way they use that term.
But when I experience a phenomenon, you know my first experience of it is perception. Then feeling then thought form
feeling perception, mental mental
formation. Yep. And so, from the framework of the scan those that would be phenomenology, right, that would be well,
that experience. It's it's one way to describe the experience of the Self sounds right. So in relationship to that, as you know, the five skandhas describe the heaps aggregates, they're the first turning Buddha's description of what constitutes the illusory sense of self. So it describes again, phenomenology as a process it describes that
I guess what I'm trying to get at is, is understanding what it is What does it mean to be truly lucid? Does it mean to be aware? Oh,
that's a good question. Feeling my
perceptions and then my mental formation is there, right?
Well, again, they said it occurs across the spectrum, just like lucid dreams occur across the spectrum. So you could say ultimate lucidity is Buddhahood. So really depends on how you define it on one level, provisional lucidity is what we talked about today. Coming back to the present moment, you're being lucid to what's happening here now, but that's not full awakening, otherwise an analog would be would be awake. Because an animal is locked into the present moment. We think we don't really know. But they're not Buddhists. They're not awake. They're in an animal realm. So just being in the present moment is not Buddhahood. That's why mindfulness I'm on one level again, I don't want to probably go there. But full lucidity comes across the spectrum degrees of awakening from that entry level. All the way to the full stability, lucidity of a Buddha, which is when again, that's the describe what that is. That's a really kind of a big deal, seeing the world constantly in a non dualistic way from wisdom instead of confusion. So, moment to moment coming back. That's a moment of lucidity. Being kind, compassionate, expressing that awareness that's a moment of lucidity. And then all the way up to full stabilization of Buddhahood. Right. Do
any of your books discuss and describe this spectrum of you know, of lucidity where there's basic lucidity and the ultimate lucidity.
Ah, I mean, it's estimated even in this book. Do I write about it overtly somewhere? Um, no, but if you want to know more about the scandals, and my take on them read read power and pain. I have like two chapters on that stuff is there you might really groove on that. It's actually that those chapters have been excerpted in us the university courses. So it's it's a pretty rigorous look at the Skanda approach to the self sense in a way that because you know, we keep studying this stuff, and you might want to take a look at that. I think it's possibly an interesting contribution. For
my last comment, then. I'm taking the course on the Dharma aluminium bar. Oh, yeah. With that. Cool. So maybe if you could sprinkle a little bit about the spectrum of lucidity because again, I'm trying to hone in on what you know if my goal is to be lucid. What exactly is that? That?
Well? Yeah, I mean lucidity. Right. So acidity is a code word for awareness. Right? And so awareness runs the gamut from over the counter colloquial awareness. That's a moment of lucidity all the way to awareness as Rick but so that's another thing like awareness is another one. Of these multi Balan terms just like lucidity is. And so really on one level from the spectrum of lucidity, you could actually say that's what you can talk about that in terms of the 10 buoys using the Mahayana language. You can talk about anything that talks about progressive stages of meditation on emptiness, that's those are progressions of lucidity. And so because it's not a multivalent term, I think you can absolutely positively kind of stretch it across these different disciplines and look at it as the maturation of the path all together. What constitutes your wakening all together. So it's peppered all over the place in my writings. I don't have a particular place that I can think of where I write about it very overtly. But yeah, that's what comes to mind. Very good.
Thank you, sir. Welcome.
Welcome. Welcome. Okay. All right. I'll read this until something if nothing comes up. Oh, yeah. The nature of consciousness. Yes. That's the name of the book. Thanks, Susan.
Yes, that is the name of the book. Yeah. It came in. Okay.
Oh, yeah, right above Susan. There was one from Tim and one from Elaine. Okay. All right from Elaine, can you give some tips for practicing non distraction throughout the day? And off the meditation cushion. I make the intent to practice mindfulness. And quickly forget. You're not the only one. Yeah, it takes effort right. Tips for practicing non distraction. One of the ways is stay away from distracting things. Honestly, it's that simple but simple. Listen to easy. Stay away from this is part of what to accept and what to reject the classic Maxim on the path stay away from situations people that gets difficult, that distract you. I can't make that call for you. You have to really take a look. And you know, this is a very interesting practice because it will reveal to you like I mentioned your lust for distraction from mindlessness. Ego feeds on this. So one of the best tips is going to retreat. Look at the parameters. There's a reason why tweezer retreats are secluded isolated whatnot, to whatever extent that creates this non distracted environment and so those would be my tips is look at all the waves like ever whenever you have an impulse to do something. Catch yourself. You're going to reach for your damn phone, which I do. I don't know how many times a day it's embarrassing. I pause Wait a second, if I capitulate to that that's the moment of distraction every time I reach for the radio or get in my car and turn on the radio or turn on the TV. I'm not saying these things are bad. I'm just saying pay attention to what you do with your life. And notice how most of our lives are actually designed to be levels of high levels of distraction. That's what creates samsara and so when you really start to look at this, it's actually really kind of painful. It's really revelatory. It's like holy crap, my whole life is designed to keep me distracted because that's what keeps ego and samsara alive. So those are the main tips is just open your eyes and look at like one problem we don't see it is because it's like everything. I mean, everything we do is an exercise and distraction. That's our default. So those are the some of the parameters that I would play with. Go into retreat. If you haven't done a formal retreat with a group of people. That discipline is involved around that that can really teach you a lot. And then you'll come back and when you feel yourself kicking and screaming against that straitjacket. But you'll learn a lot and then you come back in and you extend it to your life and you realize, Hey, do I really need to go to that dinner? Do I really need to do whatever Do I really need to hang out with these people? This is where only you can decide who is it in your practice in your life. That's going to support you if they support you and curse those relationships in this regard. If they don't, Oh, he did take a look. You might want to release that because otherwise you're going to distract your entire life away. You're just going to whittle it away piss it away. And at the moment of death, what a thorough say so beautifully. I went to the woods, because I wished to live deliberately. The front only the effects of essential facts of life and see if I cannot learn what to have to teach and not when I came to die. Discover that I had not read Thoreau Walden Okay, Tim, Hi, Andrea. My meditation is fairly consistent, cool. Yet my lucid dreams vary quite extensively. That's super normal. They often seem just to come on their own accord even though I keep intending them any thoughts? Yeah, keep going. Again. simple but not easy. Yeah, just keep going. Because even though we Yes, we're more mindful, absolutely, positively. We still have this vast unconscious mind this massive reservoir of unconscious whatever's going back not just from this life, but from if you believe in this stuff, countless previous lives, ghosts forces the dark side, or CO conspiratorial out there the ones that keep you non lucid. So even though you may and I'm not doubting it, be working, working working. You still have this iceberg underneath. That's just stuffed with all these seeds of distraction. And that's why they're, I mean, why are there more Buddha's running around in the world? Because there's, there's this colossal iceberg of unconscious non lucid processes. Excuse me, the forces of the dark side as I call them, they're right. They're always ready to pull you away. So the most important thing my friend like the Dalai Lama says, Just never give up. Again, the older you get, the more you start to look at things you start to realize what really matters and what doesn't, the more you simplify your life,
and perhaps you'll discover that the only thing that really matters is working with your mind. That's it. That's the only thing that's the only game in town. And so you just the distractions just fall away, your friends fall again, you know, friends that are not healthy. The recidivism friends, right? They fall away your life becomes simpler, clean or pure. I mean, my dear friend, Emma children. I mean, her wife is incredibly we would say from the outside really austere, but she knows she she's got it. She knows what this is about. So she spends the vast majority of her life in retreat down the road and Crestone. So she knows what's important. And so, as I get older, I try to emulate masters like heard and others is like what's really going on here? What is life about what it's working with your minds about waking up? Then that helps me realize all the ways I put myself to sleep. And this is not easy. I mean, it goes against society is it goes against your traditional frameworks. And that's why this is sometimes called a warrior's tradition. You know, deep, deep, deep dive practitioners who you're going against the grain of so much this there's nothing unless you're in a deep, strong spiritual community. There's nothing to support this journey. Everything is designed to rip you apart from it one colossal that's why this is such a dark age. The Dark Age The principal signature signature, the Dark Age is this epidemic of distraction. It's killing the planet. Really, it comes down to this thing. So what do we got here? Yes, I can maybe take one more if there is one if there isn't, I actually haven't 730 thing.
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Oh, good life is good. Cool. Thanks, everybody. So I always fun to see everybody's face here as I start to check out nice to be with you again. I climb through all my friends and enemies Okay, so I will be here Monday. We're gonna release the Dr. Anita thing after I edit it really wonderful time I spent with him. Next Wednesday is Dr. Nw with him. And then Thursday is a q&a thing. So if that works for you, I will see you on one of those platforms and otherwise everybody take care of yourself. To whatever extent it works for you. We talked about earlier and one of them but Monday meditation sessions. Dedication of merit, whatever value we may have have done accumulate during this day we send it to the world in particular to all the people that are really suffering and Ukraine right now. It's really really, really tragic. So best to you all stay in touch, so to speak, and I'll see you next week. Bye bye.
