Hey, everyone, thank you for joining things committee space and being here with us. Really excited to see you all, I feel like it has been a while. So it's a good time. Glad to have you here. Glad to be a part of it. I'm going to pull some folks up with me. And we're gonna get started. There's a lot of fun stuff to cover today. And, and we'll keep going from there. So I'm gonna find Evan Evans here. And I see Jack, I don't know if Jack's joining but either way, sent you some invites, very excited for this. And hello, it's been a while. Are you? Good. Everyone else Evan and I met for the first time in person, very recently at South by Southwest. And it was brilliant. Very, very exciting.
It was, it was wonderful. It's great to be able to see people I work with closely in real life, it's even better in many ways to see them in the glamorous location of South by Southwest.
Be sure. And we got some a couple of folks who use spaces in person. So if you saw us there, hey, if you didn't see us there, we'll find another time to chat and connect. Hey, Danny. Hey, Jack.
Hey, guys, how's it going? It's been a while been a while since I've done one of these. I know.
I guess we'll kick off then guys. Welcome. Welcome, everyone. excited to have you guys join today for our community gathering and share with you a little bit of what we've been working on. And also your house basically going for you not only feedback and q&a at the end, but the types of spaces you've been attending and ones that stuck out to you. And of course, how we can make the product better as well. We have some exciting stuff today. We will be covering everything, we'll be covering a way for hosts and listeners to share the best bits of the space. So excited for him to talk more about that. And Zarya will cover a little bit odd and seeing who's spoken in space. And so you don't have to search for him later. Because that can kind of be a pain point as well. And then a sort of knee she's joining but she'll be covering a bit on how to be a part of the conversation without even being on stage. Oh, and Jack's here. We love Jack. Hey, guys. So yeah, we'll kick it off. Remember, guys, we can't get to everyone during q&a, but we're going to try our best. But you can always reach out to us via DMS or use the hashtag spaces, bugs for any issues or bugs that you're experiencing on spaces and hashtag spaces, research in your tweets for any feedback, concept ideas, just even thoughts around spaces. And we respond to all of those, but we are checking them and take them into account. I'll pass it over to Evan, you want to take it away, man, introduce yourself.
Sure. Hello. So I talked about this a few weeks ago. But we are very, very excited to be releasing clipping the next couple of days. Clipping is a way to capture 30 seconds of audio out of his space and post it to your followers. We think it's incredibly powerful for hosts to you know, break down interesting ideas from a larger space and post them to your followers. But then also, it's a new method to consume interesting ideas for all of Twitter. So it's a new way to bridge the gap between audio and text. Jack who's on the call has done an amazing job of designing a new experience that combines audio and their transcriptions in a new mixed media format. And that will be making its way to your timelines in the coming days. We are releasing it to a select group of spaces hosts. So everybody who had access to recording will also have access to clubbing as well as a number of other folks who have been selected for this beta test. Anybody on iOS will be able to view those clubs means that basically everyone It who creates a clip will have their clip seen by anybody who has an iOS device. And we will shortly be following up with Android and web. And that will be coming in the next couple of weeks. And we will plan to open up the funnel to people who have access to clipping very, very soon, we want to make sure that we have a level of control over clipping so that we're not opening up to a huge amount of people very, very quickly. So we can learn about how people use it and where we might be able to improve before everybody has their hands on it. But yeah, I think this is incredibly exciting, not only for spaces, but for Twitter, I think it's a really amazing way for us to get into the bloodstream of Twitter being tweets, I think that the more people see audio, the more people will use audio. And the experience will be better for everybody if folks who don't have headphones in and see what's happening in a space, and go what's happening in the world. So I don't know if anybody else on this business team would like to speak to this. But I'm happy to take any questions at the end in the q&a, and hope to see some very, very clips as we release this in the coming days.
I'm gonna jump ahead and have a question. And Jack, what's been the biggest challenge so far when it comes to building this? On the spot,
I think this is actually a very technically complicated feature. Shout out to Adrian row, and Arvind, who are on the stage team and all the engineers who've worked on this. But getting the taking a clip out of a piece of audio that's been recorded, and then it's a piece of audio that's live is actually really, really tricky. And I think nailing that from an engineering perspective was really, really hard. And then maybe Jack, you could speak to some of the issues that we've had around how we design for transcriptions and creating a great experience there.
Yeah, I think you kind of hit on some of the pain points we've been having it, transcriptions have been tricky to make sure that they they make sense and they can fit in there, we have some limitations with the ways that transcriptions are already implemented in Twitter right now that limit the ways we can use them for captions, inside clips, but we're working on making them better. So bear with us, as you start to see them in there. We're hoping to improve them lots of time with technical limitations there. And then it's the other side is like making sure we're health conscious. For a feature that pulls portions of audio out checks into the timeline. I think that is, I don't know if I'd say challenging, but a thing that has been stuck in our mind that we keep going back to
law, love it, love it. As with all things spaces, guys, you already know, we're really excited to get out there, and we're gonna do our best to learn as quick and fast as possible and improve. So really, really excited to get it out there and great work guys.
Can't wait. Yeah, super
excited. I hope you guys are gonna clip what you guys just said right now, too, right?
I just sent a clip. Who knows if people are able to see it yet, but that clip will be viewable in the coming day. So
we'll try and see if we can fit it in here. Love it. All right, I'll pass it over to Zarya, you want to take it away?
Sure. Hey. So awesome to see here. I don't know, see once we pulled up but you know, text me, you know, get you on stage, you can talk about this together. But earlier this week, we actually launched an experiment for spaces where you can now see kind of all the people who have spoken in the space and who have co hosted all in one area. So we know that it's difficult. There are a couple times that you may not actually know who all was there trying to understand trying to follow people do you heard something really good MySpace, so we're trying to make it all easier for you. One, you might encounter space card after it's all said and done and be like, wait, I want to follow people here. But like, how do you know who was in the space? How do you know what was going on. So now if you encountered ended space card, you can click it to see all of them spoke the co host follow people there, get some more context and know what's going on. And then also, if you stay to the end of a live space, it should also just show up for you all so you can kind of get that information all in one place. I know for myself, sometimes I'm going to space and either like my phone's not actually open or I'll miss someone coming onstage and offstage and I'm like, Oh, wait, they said something really good. I want to like follow up with them, follow them, things like that. And so that should make it easier and 100% really excited. People should already be seeing it now. I mean, not at this exact second but like maybe a decent newspaper Some of y'all will see it, and we have more changes coming soon. See, you want to add anything to this?
Yeah, so this is one of the first steps that we're taking to improving the experience of what happens after a space is over. So um, you know, we have recording now in recording stick around after a space, we are now introducing the speaker list on all platforms so that you can, you know, create connections or create connections with other people after a space is over as well. And more to come is more analytics for the hosts after a space. You can see, you know, clips created from the space, things like that. Yeah.
Yeah. Awesome. Cool. And I see Nisha jumped on stage. Nisha, give a little sneak preview on what you're working on. Oh, for yourself, as well.
Yeah, everyone, I'm Nishi. I'm a PM. Also on Spaces work really, and very closely with Zarya, Evan, see Jack and Danny as well. We're working on thinking about how we solve the issue of participation in the space where you might want to reply to the space itself or reply to a tweet and talk about aspects of the space send questions to the hosts directly within the reply thread of a tweet. And so you will probably be hearing some more about our space entity work next week, but just here to teach that as something that we can look forward to.
Really, really excited for that work. D she covered a lot of it there. It's we hear so much in researching the challenges of having a great space wanting to be a part of the conversation, but you may not always want to be on stage. And so that plus some great work happening with newer emojis come in the Jackson, it's gonna be awesome. Cool, Jack. Oh, go, you know, go for it go for is
the only thing else want to make sure we just say this every time. But if you're like, I have not seen these features yet. And I think I should. Please also make sure you update your apps to the newest version on iOS and Android. That's how you'll see it. So that's the heads up on both, especially if like you want to see some of the clipping that's been happening, that either it's pending via Evans suite, or you can seize it. Via Jack's to me all those things. But yeah, make sure you update your apps. Sorry, Danny.
No, you're good. You're good. And also tell us all about it even from what you see. And when you use it. Yeah, yell at us in your tweets. You know, we don't we don't get offended. We hear the passion and the excitement of social audio when we read those. And so really excited to build together with you guys. And before we jump into q&a, let's see Jad is joined us. Hey, guys, how's it going? Maggie, you could do a brief intro and tell us what you're working on.
Yes, sure. So I wanted to say hi to everyone in the community. My name is Chad. I am the community manager based in London in the UK. And I've already met a couple of you guys. But I just wanted to sort of introduce myself say hello. I'd love to kind of meet you guys, and get to know you and build a relationship and see what we can build going forward.
Awesome. Welcome, Chad. Excited to see what you do in the UK and with our creators over there. And I guess we'll jump into q&a. Anything else you guys want to cover while we bring folks up?
No, I don't think so. I think we kind of talked about all the big things this week. And we're just excited to hear from folks. It's been a while it's been a second
you know? All right. So it has folks connecting we have Vince and Dr. Kimmy, Dr. Kim, I see Vince is up here. How's it going? Good. Hey, going? Well, how are you? Good, good. How's everything? How's bass going for you by your mouth and your mic? Sounds great.
Oh, thank you. Yes, bases are going great. I'm really enjoying it. And my question is I just came in at the tail end of your introduction. So I don't know, maybe you covered this. But on I do a game show room where I have a lot of participants that come up on onto this into the speakers slots. And there's certain points where there's a high demand and I wish I could add more speakers. And I feel like some people get discouraged and and leave my space and the way I've format my show. It's conducive to having, you know, maybe a dozen or more participants at once and I'm wondering if there's any Any plans in the future to expand the number of speakers on stage at one time? hellos?
That's a great one. Yeah, sorry, I was muted there. Great question there. That's something we have thought about before. Right now. And from our research and the data we have, we've learned that this makes sense. This is most manageable for most spaces. But that doesn't mean that it's set in stone. We do plan on in the future, exploring ways how to make them even more intimate, even smaller, and also ways to expand as well. So definitely stay tuned for that. Great, thank you.
I think Next is Dr. Elizabeth Bailey. up on stage? Yes,
thank you so much. Zarya, and hello to you. And Danny, thank you for hosting this space. Twitter, I've been an active user on clubhouse. And Twitter is so easy to use, and it's very functional. So I thank you for making it very simple to use but very powerful at the same time. My question is, do you anticipate I guess I'll come from it from my own kind of perspective, I've hosted a few rooms, which had been wonderful. There's also a desire to open up and and record, like a teaching. And then just really for the purposes of replay, to just kind of, you know, build just solid content, and keep that on my on my Twitter feed? And is there maybe an opportunity for for Twitter to create maybe a private room for people who just want to kind of teach for a half hour? And then post it? Or do you do anticipate that Twitter is very much communal by nature. And the best way to use it is to be hosting rooms where people can be very interactive, and complete. Thank you.
Yeah, thanks for your question. I feel like maybe Misha. And I can like both touch on this. Because there are some things around here that I think we've had a lot of conversations on. Tons of people I think are looking for ways and desires to like have spaces be a little bit more private. And I think Nietzsche was to be best to like that aspect of it. On the recording side. Definitely things that we're continuing to work on. And I've tweeted about this as well is that making recordings like indefinite and lasts forever. So if we can keep these assets for longer is in the works. And but right now, the way that spaces is really used is really community oriented and having it be interactive. And of course, it's always up to the host decide whether they want to pull speakers up. So you could always do one where it's essentially whoever the teachers are having just the conversation amongst themselves or going over the content. And that could be its own thing, and then just keeping that as well. So that is an alternative. But I will maybe let Nishi speak to some concepts and ideas of more privacy, privacy,
absolutely happy to speak to some of the work that we are exploring around this concept of limited audience spaces, we are definitely hearing a lot from the community that there is a desire to have the ability to either control who gets to join or speak in a space, or to have more intimate type spaces where you can have more of a curated conversation, to your point to be able to teach, or to be able to speak more openly, without feeling like your privacy might be impeded by the fact that most faces are public. So we're trying to do that, while also making sure that we are keeping at forefront in mind health. There's a lot of ways that users will be able to abuse this concept of a limited audience space. And so the last thing we want to do is roll out something without protecting users on Twitter. And so please stay tuned, we're absolutely going to be launching some concepts that we'll be testing in the coming months, two months, hopefully. But we also want to make sure we take the time to think about the health of spaces overall.
Great, thank you so much. I'll drop myself down back into the audience. Thank you.
Thank you so much. Thank you for sharing and pass it over to Dr. Kemmy.
Danny, thank you so much for having me. I'm in Nigeria and it's approaching seven o'clock 6:50pm here. First I want to say hi to everybody in since I moved to Nigeria about almost 10 years ago, I spent 32 years in Philadelphia, Baltimore and of course, Atlanta. For the last 10 years, I've always done radio as a journalist. I'm also a doctor of pharmacy. So I'm a pharmacist, but I don't practice pharmacy, Nigeria, I do a lot of health shows on radio. Now, I was about to sign a deal with a radio station, or podcasting and a live radio show when I cancelled it because of Twitter spaces. I don't have to leave my house, I don't have to even dress up, you know, I can lie down in bed into a space and I love it. Now, as you guys know that Twitter was suspended in our country for seven months, so a lot of us were using VPN. When I decided to join the VPN wagon in September, this was June to December when I decided to join the VPN wagon in September, and I discovered spaces my very first space now they call me a controversial journalist. And it's because I tell a lot of truths. And I'm kind of open, I always compare myself to Rush Limbaugh. I mean, he was one of my mentors, I say it all. So the very first space I did was very viral. There was like 10,000 people in there. And all I was talking about was my ex boyfriend slash BB daddy, and all that stuff. So at the end of the day, everybody was there. So I gauged this thing, and I discovered ticket ID spaces. And I talked to it a business last week to help us in Nigeria, my spaces are five to 10 hours each. Everybody comes in my space journalists from around the world. My whole space looks like verified accounts, lots of people. So at the end of my space, I'm seeing 10 17,000 20,000 listening. We want to monetize spaces, I'm talking for 10 hours. I mean, let me just say this, Danny Tareekh in a sheet is like maybe I'm after him when it comes to the longest faces. So my dad was going to be 87. He's a high ranking politician in the ruling party, but his old now but dad still talks. So I brought my dad into the space by calling him on another phone. That space was so viral. And it was 10 hours. We're talking about the history of Nigeria. So I brought my dad in our number four. Everybody commended the space. Everybody tweeted it. It was so nice. But I didn't make any money. And I said, Why have I been wait listed on ticketed spaces for all this time? Are we allowed to power our spaces with adverts? Because people are calling me I want to advertise my business on your show? Are we allowed to advertise? That's my first question. And the second one is really short. Can we have a space tab? In other words, you see that spaces i Dad was on it was 10 hours, I can't find it. I have to scroll forever. I found four of my spaces. But the one my dad was in February, early February. It's like I can't find it. If we have a space tab. Like what Jack in C seven said, if we have some kind of tab? Like we can just go and look at our own spaces. I know there's a tab at the bottom. So spaces going on but our own spaces. That'd be easier. That's all I have to say. ticketed spaces. I've been waitlisted since September. And can we actually run ads on our spaces? Can we mentioned people's adverts? Can they pay us? Can we monetize that way? Because I really need the money. Rather than you know, I left a radio station for this and I love it. So I've been waitlisted for so long, please accept my waitlist. And also we need a space cap.
Thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna start on this, partially because I have been having conversations literally all week about monetization in spaces. And with the team that works on one's vision right now. Also, Alex is here I met Alex in person, which is really exciting. And I understand that like need, especially for hosts are putting in so much time and hours to be able to be able to have an income based off their work, it takes a lot of time. And a lot of effort. For those on the call who don't know ticket spaces is a way in which you can sell a ticket to your space for a price that you determined people buy the tickets, you can take the profit for that and host your spaces. It's a great way for monetization. And if folks haven't applied, please do apply. I can see what's going on in terms of applications that I need to I there's a lot around it, that I'm still learning myself and getting on boarded to to get that moving forward. But do know that we know monetization is a big deal. And there are a lot of things in the work to make this more possible and get it to people there. Secondarily, on the point of like, can I see all of my own spaces, this is part of the work that we're doing to also make recordings last on the platform for as long as you want them to and so that should be coming to you all soon as well as part of this. I've been working with C and Jack on this. We've talked about this a ton for a while now. So we'll let them add anything there. And the third thing is like can you let Advertising happened on faces, I will be honest, I do not know. That is something that I would have to check. And I do not want to say anything definitively on that without me, verifying what it is. Since I can't give you a direct answer, but I don't want to, I don't want to lie to you, you know? That's me. See.
One No, on the tickets, spaces availability, so it's only available to hosts in the US right now, which is a it's a very frustrating limitation, I'll be honest, the only reason that it's only available to us house right now is because I don't there's like legal tax issues, or something, I don't know the details. And again, I wouldn't want to lie to you, or misrepresent the limitation. But it's it's purely a matter of like, you know, paperwork, bureaucracy type stuff. We really want to make sure our international hosts who are pouring so much time into running amazing spaces are able to get the rewards and the money that they deserve. So stay tuned. And well, like as soon as it's available, like trust me, you'll definitely get access to ticketed spaces.
Big agree here. And please do know that we all are also all internally talking about like, how do we make sure we get to all the international markets and recognize the work and effort that's happening here? Very top of mind, I think everyone who's on here on stage from the spaces team has heard me talk about all of our various international markets and what we're seeing there, and how do we connect more and make sure we think supported? So please know that we're thinking about it and working hard on it.
Jack? Yeah, just wanted to add on the monetization side, we are working through there's concepts floating around around different ways of monetizing spaces that is being worked on nothing definitive yet, but as it starts to become more solidified, we'll share that when we're ready.
Some awesome. All right. Thank you so much, Kimmy, and make sure give yourself rest. Ah, 10 our spaces. That's a lot. I see my letter has had her hand up and then we'll close it out with ready.
Hi, thank you so much for having me up here. My name is Violetta I'm, I'm an Italian singer, songwriter. I work in the NFT space. So I use Twitter spaces, pretty much all day, every single day to cultivate the NFT community and the community around my NFT project music NFT project. I'm minting in April. And right now I'm in the process of you know, preparing and doing the marketing, and I've had a problem with Twitter spaces for a week to 10 days. Now that has been pretty frustrating for me. I've been trying to get in touch with Twitter support, but there's no like, real question that I can ask in the presets. So I thought I'd come up here and ask you guys, I cannot see Twitter spaces in my home feed at the top. They are there in the morning when I live in Europe. So I I basically work with the American timezone. So in the morning, when nothing's happening in America, I see spaces then throughout the day, they just disappear. And I don't see them again until I wake up the next morning. And I really struggle with that. Also, I don't have the spaces button at the bottom of my Twitter. And I've been trying everything to fix this issue. I don't know what to do. i It's getting pretty, pretty annoying because I work on Twitter spaces every single day. And I just have no idea what to do. So please help. Thank you.
Hey, Violetta. So for the spaces area at the top of the app that only shows up when someone you follow is in a space. So it is possible that you aren't seeing that area at the top of the app because maybe just like folks look into that and ask for the spaces tab at the bottom of your app or the one that you don't have access to right now. It's only available I think if your phone is set to English language. If you know someone on stage, keep me honest here. So if your phone is not in the English language, try switching that around in your phone settings and see if something changes. If not, just tag me, and we'll follow up on your specific account. Thank you so much for all your work.
Thank you. Thank you so much. I actually yeah, my phone is actually set in Italian so I I'm gonna go ahead and change that to English. Thank you very much those very helpful, but I follow for almost 4000 people. And I know that, you know, I see when people are on spaces because of the purple circle around their profile picture, right. So I know there are spaces going on, I just don't see them. I'm not sure what's going on. But that's for that's the most practical thing for me to hop on spaces, and I really, really need that. So please, just what can
I do? That definitely sounds like a bug. And, well, let's follow up over tweets about this. Okay,
could I DM you or tweet you? Just tweet me? Okay. Thank you. Amazing.
Thank you.
I was I was gonna say this has come up, I think no prior space. And I think there's been ongoing work that the team has been doing or when problems in this space. He talked about this. So hopefully changes should come soon. That should resolve this issue for folks as well.
Thank you very much. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Thank you. Let's see, Remy? Yeah, you want to close it out?
Gotcha, Danny, appreciate y'all putting on the community gathering. As always. I'm doing great work. And ya know, I always love having discussions with you. Especially, you know, around how y'all are thinking about the progression of the product? Yeah, big fan. Okay. So question. Anybody who's been on spaces for a minute, is probably well aware of the nice little delay that we have between us that are talking everybody else down there. Particularly, I've just realized, as I'm posting spaces, I will close them out. And I will start, like sending emojis. I can usually send 10 Before people before when I said goodbye, reaches the audience, and then you'll see them also send emojis. Sorry, from that. So I had one question around if there was any progress on potentially either Well, at least shrinking that one, and then to how that would work with clips, which is particularly why raise my hand because the gap just being there is whatever but if how that would affect clips is particularly friend of mine. Because if the audience clips, and it's clipping at the rate that they hear it would be fine would be great. But if we clip on the stage, do we clip what the audience is hearing at that moment? Because especially if it's only clipping 30 seconds, it could get kind of dicey. So I was wondering if that was on the radar?
I don't think just jumped. But I can actually do I got it. I can't do some of this. You know clipping and I can go the actual like delay issue. So you can start clipping and I'll jump back.
Sure. The clipping, I don't know that there is that particular issue that you're seeing. And if there is, we haven't been seeing it just yet. But before we get further with it, we'll definitely be looking into it to understand if that is something that we need to have a concern about. With class. Thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah.
And on the delay front, this is actually a thing that we like continually work on, and it does shorten. And then like as we release new features, sometimes it lengthens again. So you should know that this is like a constantly fluctuating changing situation here, as we like work and build and work and build. And we're like to
start funding or captions plus effects plus processing all of that just to get some your audience's cumbersome on the processors. Yeah,
and so that does happen. And to the best of my knowledge, I think with the way that clipping also happens, that delay is it like as much of an issue and what it captures here for folks. So similar Jack, we have not seen yet, we will definitely keep an eye out for it. But if you are hosting speaking up now there is a little bit of a delay. So sometimes you'll say goodbye and usually plus end, but for listener, like cut you off mid sentence, so you might want to give a little extra time after saying bye before you leave button. Just so everyone hears your last thoughts.
I would Yes, please. If you're hosting spaces, please. Oh, it's happened so many times in the last week and I'm just Oh
all right. Oh, see, did you have some?
Oh, I was just gonna say for the time travel thing just to explain to folks in the audience who may not be familiar with what's going on. So the speaker stage is like a couple seconds ahead of what the rest of the audience hears just for better sound quality and for stability reasons. So, you know that that time period, that period of time travel does fluctuate depending on like some, you know, ongoing stability improvements that we make. And so clipping should not need to be affected by that. Like it should be relative to whatever you are hearing at the moment, but we'll keep a close eye on it as the future rolls out. So, thanks for the Thanks for the reminder me.
Awesome, awesome. And I think we'll wrap it up there guys. Thank you so much for joining everyone. Appreciate all of you guys, and the great space is happening. As usual. Reach out to us with any feedback or hashtag spaces, research, hashtag spaces, bugs. We want to hear how spaces are going for you and how we can also improve as we build together. Appreciate Vince Dr. Bailey duck me, Remy Violetta everyone joining us on stage sharing your experiences and we'll talk soon guys. Go and be safe out there.