So So I think an important part is to look at the system and realize that most people are so the people often go to university to get a job. And the workplace in the companies sort of define what they're looking for, which then defines what is being produced. And so I think that you can't look at the educational system in isolation from the workplace. And, you know, and I think that, you know, if to be able to survive an alternative education system, you have to have very brave parents, and you have to be somewhat privileged to be able to drop out without your parents getting upset. So I think that in the My mother was very supportive of us. So I think it's, it's not it's very difficult, you know, and also, I think that you have a little bit of survivorship bias. I think, Audrey me and Vitalik got lucky. But I think for most people, it's easier if you have a degree and you get a job. And so I think that you can't you shouldn't design a system where it causes too much pain and risk for everyone. It's not sustainable. So I think that was one thing. It's important. And I think in order to do that, I think that we need to change the workplace. And we need to change how assessments occur. We need to change the diversity of the workplace. And I think one of the things that's key is, and this is a longer term project, but like whether it's the assessment process for the working style that has changed before we will see the universities changing the way that they do degrees and assessments. So assessments is one path and I think there are some interesting movements around qualification frameworks and around instead of doing testing is the other way to model what people do and what the capabilities are. And I think that, again, is related to web three and accounting and AI and so so I think that's an important area to do. Having said that, I think that you know, there are people and institutions and workplaces that are kind of alternative and for the people who are going to not fit in the system anyway. So like, for me, I was really not very good at university and so I didn't have any choice other than to make my own educational system and for those kinds of people, I think we can create alternative paths. I think media lab was one of those places. I'm trying to create that kind of thing at CIT. There's a field that my sister helped develop called connected learning, which is the idea that a lot of the work that you do is outside of the school, but can you connect to the work that you do online, the work that you do in a museum or in, you know, computer club, and for credit back in the main system, and how do you sort of express what people are learning outside of the system and how do you facilitate sharing of credentials and knowledge? And I do think that the credentialing badging systems can help people with informal education get credit for the work. And I think the other part that's important is fear learning. And so the web three class that we did at CIT recently, we issued a token. But what was interesting is we incentivize people to help each other to teach so actually, you got more reward for teaching than you did for learning. You know, and I think that creating an environment for learning is actually probably more important than creating a competitive environment to teach yourself. It's kind of and I think this you guys seem to be doing this quite well. I think this book club is very important, but like if we were to take this book club, and if I were to try to hack it. Now, what I would probably do is to attach it somewhere to a formal educational institution that can provide credentials for people who want that and I'd be happy to discuss maybe we provide a credentialing process with CIT or maybe work with a university in Taiwan and I know that how and the Tao team on our side machine is working with you guys about kind of using D IDs and NF T's for credentialing but see if we can get some companies to formally recognize that credential. Figure out if we could do some formal publishing. One of the things that I wanted to talk about at some point was I was talking to Amy Grant, who runs MIT Press. And when I was at MIT, I created a journal called Journal of design and science. But after I left it, it stopped. So she said she gave it to us if I can find the publishers I've been thinking about restarting it, and maybe we can do it as a collaboration between Taiwan and ncid. But if we can put together education, editorial board, if we can create an academic publishing platform, so some sort of hack to the API's of academic publishing academic credentials, those job credentials, and then using the kind of peer learning, I think that that's, that's also a thing that we can do. And I think this project that we're working on right now, I think would be a potential thing. I'm trying to create a graduate program from 2025, which will be interdisciplinary program master and PhD. And that could be another thing is if we could find a few people in this community who wants to do a master PhD around some topics, that's it, maybe we can design it to be more participatory, and we I've been discussing with several academics about why we can't have multi author dissertations. So maybe we could try hacking, and creating a multi author, PhD dissertation or something like that. So So I think these are some things we can try hacking and I think you have the critical mass to do it, so I'd be happy to discuss this.