And it was so much fun, because that was our first time doing a pop up podcast booth activation, which I'll talk about in more depth in just a moment, because it ties directly into the focus of this bonus episode all about how we use our to live events to jump up on the podcast charts. And then so we were there, you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, flew home Saturday, I got to bring Andi and Sabrina on my team with me that was our first out of state trip together via plane at least as a team. So that was so fun to have them at a conference there with me because usually, when I'm just speaking at conferences, rather than also acting as a sponsor, I am traveling alone. So it was lovely to have the two of them with me. And then on Sunday, the very next day after I got home, we also were the presenting sponsor for the upper left ladies summit mini in Portland, Oregon. So my husband and I drove up to set up for that. And that was a completely different activation, which again, I'll kind of compare and contrast the two different live events that we did, since we were a sponsor for both of them, and then talk about how that ultimately helped support our goal of utilizing these live events for podcast worth.