All right. You know, Danny, I think we need to shift the order of this, you know, because I have to agree with that already. What I would, what I would say is, as Maria said, is a no brainer, yes. multistakeholder. Another analogy, if you permit me to think about the human body, we can survive, if any of the organs or the essential organs are missing can be there. So we can survive without with they do play a role. But again, the whole point of the human body, the doctors, the medical doctors may not agree with me, it's really to keep the brain moving. But the brain can't do anything about the rest of the parts. And early, right. So So this is where we talk about that issue of you know, you're thinking intellectual exercise, as it relates to, as has already been said, What is in it for me? Why, why am I in this? What do I stand to benefit? And and in answering that, as Maria also mentioned, and Peter also mentioned, you really need to think about what is the common goal, you can't think about everything in the bucket, you have to think about the drops that relate to you. I don't want to go into mathematical visualization with Venn diagrams, but you don't always have overlapping interests. So it's really key to focus on what is important in that respect, and to sort of throw something else out there. In terms of unexperienced over the last few years, any minister would have mentioned that. I don't know how many of you were familiar with the hot tea tea exercise, that that came out, it was really about a collaboration, I would say multi stakeholder engagement involving members of the public sector, the ICT community, private sector, particularly in terms of crafting the terms of reference, and in mentoring, the next generation tertiary level institutions. And between you and me, I really wanted secondary school as well, anytime maybe even primary school, but you know, it was a pilot. Also government ministries, divisions and agencies were involved because they had the problems. It was about a year it took about a year and change, just a dialogue to understand what are the things the different actors want to get out of it, and maybe not all actors were included in that, that that pilot, but the the success to me was in the fact that the students got mentorship, the government agencies got proofs of concept on digital services and I'm reappointed to the bigger picture in terms of why but get into that it you know, the activities like this could funnel into into that sort of activity. At the end of the of the activity, the students will recognize these students hadn't had the intellectual efforts, rewarded and showcased. They are currently being piloted to different degrees within the different recipient ministries, divisions and agencies. The minister referred to employ TT those that was one of the things that was looked at. Additionally, there was benefit I believe, I started getting Directed. But in terms of the initial discussions, a lot of the mentors from the private sector, it is known about, you know, corporate social responsibility. And we cannot feel nice in the morning, they got a hidden CVS of these students, they got to see what they really could do, they got to see that there are opportunities to draw on these students, maybe by interfacing with academia, to solve some of their own problems to do sort of collaborations. And I think that's something that you see a lot in many developed countries, and I wish that we could see a little bit more of that in in, in, in all parts of the world as well. So Danny, I just hand it back over that. But I think that's what it really sets out to me in terms of what's the recipe for