So I would actually say that that started in childhood, it, it's amazing how you know, the things in your life, you know, we look back, everything kind of contributes to getting you to that, that point, or to this point. And I really don't even feel like I'm done with, you know, adding things and learning things and expanding even more, but it definitely started in childhood, my mom was very big on, you know, taking holistic, natural approaches, whenever we were, you know, sick, we, you know, she gave us cod liver oil and an orange produce almost every morning and we weren't very, you know, sickly children, I remember my grandmother telling us to eat onions, you know, if we were feeling you know, a little ill, and then by the next day, we will be fine. So, I've never really been introduced to, you know, take a lot of medicine, you know, go to the store, buy medicine, or go to the doctor, take this prescription, my mom was very, you know, she didn't even drink alcohol, when we were growing up, she was very, you know, let's just eat properly if you eat a certain way, because, honestly, this is just how I was raised your medicine is your food, you know, the things that you put into your body every day, those are really the things that are supposed to keep your immune system up, and to help you keep up, you know, just a healthy balance. And so, you know, as you know, everything that we eat, it impacts us in some way. And everything that you eat has, if especially if it's from the earth, and its natural form, it has healing properties that come with it. So yeah, I, you know, started out that way, and then just going into, you know, academics, and just really trying to figure out what aligned with me, and what made me feel good. And I remember while I was getting my doctorate, and um, we had the intern during my program, I decided that I wanted to look at integrative care in an allopathic and a naturopathic clinic and to see of the two settings which did I prefer, which did I think, you know, more so lean toward that integrated approach? And what I found was that in the allopathic setting, which was, you know, which was great to work in great experience, worked with wonderful doctors. It just was, it was different. I felt very restricted. I wasn't able to, you know, do a lot of, you know, I think you should meditate, you know, I think that you should, you know, look at you know, let's talk about what you're eating, because they're the approach was, you know, oh, well, you have an ailment, okay, I'm gonna write your prescription. Oh, okay, this came up, okay, I'm gonna write you a prescription. And I've just never felt like that aligned with me, but when I worked in the naturopathic clinic, which I want them interning in, and then also staying on as a behavioral health consultant for about two years with them. She that that specific doctor she bought in a chiropractor, she had nutritionists come in, she had a sauna in her office. You know, it was just a different approach. And it that that felt more like home to me. So I would say that I've just always been in that space where, you know, really teaching people that, hey, everything that you need is around you. I do believe that, you know, God has given us everything on Earth that we need for us to heal ourselves.