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thank you for the question. Obviously, we're following closely what's happening in Alberta. All provinces and territories have signed on to these historic agreements to ensure that we can collectively move forward with building this national childcare system. We fully expect that all provinces and territories will execute on their agreements, they'll follow through on the commitments and I'm sure Alberta will be no exception. Does that
mean that you expect provinces to put more money towards it because they take care operators are saying they just don't have enough to stay open and they're going to vote.
When we signed on, we made a historic $30 billion commitment to build this national system. Every province and territory has benefited from that funding. They had certainty of what that looked like it increases every July and their annual payment. So we expect, of course at the provinces are also contributing as they have been and as we expect to continue to see to ensure they execute on their sorry, go ahead. More to come very soon. Obviously, we're doing our due diligence to make sure more to come soon. Thank you. Thank you. Trying to have your position. As I had just sad more to come very soon. We're just doing our due diligence, making sure we've covered all our bases understand the implications of the proposed amendment. And I'll be back to you soon.
Thank you for any further questions. I'm happy to come back and circulate some business cards so we can take your questions later. Okay. Thanks.
You a report to after you did election doesn't doesn't let them become a political football thing you said yesterday shouldn't be within being? Why would you delay me until after the lecture? Well, first
of all, we're going to be introducing legislation at this time. I can't talk about the time and reasons to
talk about the government's intention. I'm not asking you the details of the bill.
Sorry, I just came up the stairs. Take a breath. Yeah, exactly. So look, the important thing here is getting it right and the time that it takes to do so when you look at the committee, and I really thank the parliamentary committee for their work. They heard from an extensive list of witnesses, and we followed that process closely for myself in talking with the provinces and the territories. The time that's required. We gotta get that right. Yes.
Yesterday, sir. So what I'm asking is how much time you're putting it off to after the next election? A it's a political football, rugby, are you, government? I
understand. I understand. I understand why you want today for me to say how long we're doing it
to be transparent with Canadians. Retention, of course.
But what I'm saying is that due to parliamentary privilege, until the legislation is tabled, I can't talk about to talk
about the legislation. I can't talk about how long what's your what's your intention? The
policy intention, as I've said, is to make sure that we take the time necessary to get this right. And I wish in a few days time, once the legislation is tabled, we can have a very specific and detailed conversation around what time is necessary based on those conversations. But I cannot you really listen to the question that you're asking. You're saying why don't you put it in front of the election. So it's not a political football? That is the essence of making it political? And that's exactly what I don't want to do. We can't base a System Readiness on whether the timing of an election, we have to base the System Readiness, on how many people have been trained about how ready the provinces are telling us they are whether or not the curriculum that has been adopted has been well metabolized by the system. Those are the questions as a health minister, I have to ask because at the end of the day, it's been three years, much more time. I
mean, to what extent can we assume that those who are asking more time with the artists people who don't agree with
Well, look I've talked with Health Ministers from new democratic governments, health ministers from a Liberal government health minister from from Quebec, you know, all of whom say their system isn't ready. So it's not just conservative health ministers that are saying this. This is these are every single health minister from every single province every single territory, telling me they're not ready. So I mean, yes, it's three years or so there. So in my conversations there has, nobody has told me they're ready. So let me just be clear, 10 of them. I have talked, I have talked to I've talked to all 13. And I can tell you that all 13 have expressed to me that their system isn't ready. But I have said for an
indefinite pause. So is that
that is not true. That is not true. There are some there are some there are some who are there are some that are asking for an indefinite, there are some there are some that are asking for an indefinite pause. And what I've said and again, due to parliamentary privilege, and in a couple of days time when we introduce legislation, we can talk exact timing. What I'm saying right now, is I can't talk about that exact timing until the legislation is tabled for reasons of parliamentary privilege,
considering, like, any definite pause, that's very different than two years, three years, four years and a definite I'm
saying that I'm not I'm saying that until the legislation is tabled. I can't talk about timing, what I can talk what you can talk about
that, in your view is enough people trained the report yesterday that you said you agreed with said only 2% of Canadian psychiatrists have been trained, what level of training do you want to see? nationally? If you were to get leadership? What's the level?
I mean, I think the look at the end of the day, this is a this is delivered by the provinces. And so I rely on the provinces and territories to be able to tell us in their systems, what their what their requirements are for state of readiness. Now, some of them are ideological in this issue. Absolutely. Some of them are, you know, their position is that they don't ever want this to occur. And I understand that. But that is not, in my view, a tenable position. I think that the there's very clear that mental suffering and physical suffering have equivalency. The question here is a state of readiness. And so what I what I think we're going to be looking for on that basis is the preponderance of reasonable opinion that this system is ready. And at this point in time, that isn't the case. And, you know, when you when I don't have any, any province or territory coming forward and saying their system is ready, that certainly is an indication that it's not there. And that we need to be able to take the time to, to be able to make sure that this gets right,
seven provinces and all territories have specifically for an indefinite cost. And just to be clear to Canadians. Is that an option you're considering? No date on when the
implementation? So I don't I don't I've tried to answer this question. Okay. And I'm trying to say that the challenge that I have, when we introduce legislation, there's parliamentary privilege, I am not going to, hopefully unclear in this, violate parliamentary privilege. In a couple of days time when the legislation has been tabled, then I will come out and I will very specifically answer those questions when parliamentary privilege allows me at this moment in time, I can only speak to general context. So
only 2% of psychiatrists say you're ready. So what is the level you think? Well, I
think the question in this is a difficult thing, because we're never going to hit a point where 100% of people say that they're ready. And I appreciate that. For me, it is a an iterative conversation, particularly looking at the Canadian Mental Health Association, km h, taking a look at a collection of provinces and listening to health ministers of different political stripes, looking for that preponderance of reasonable opinion to say that we're there,
because vary province to province, is what you're saying? Well,
I'm saying that, you know, we're going to have time to get these, these these these answers. Right. So
you're required to give national leadership according to the committee, and you agree with that? Yes,
I agree. So So what is national leadership in terms of
in terms of take up on training to greenlight the program?
Well, one of the things we because we have time, one of the things that I talking about with my counterparts, provincial and territorial counterparts, is what those markers are going to be. It's clear that we're not ready at this point in time. So looking at with provinces and territories, what is exactly going to be required to cross that threshold? That's not something that we have an answer for today, but it's something for that we have tried
and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm hearing you say that it's not going to be about about that will decide what that threshold of training, proper training is, you will leave that to the provinces, given that they're going
to do it collaboratively. I mean, I think it's, you know, one of the things that I had a very good conversation with the health ministers when we got together in Charlottetown. To say that, look, there's there's a lot of areas where health is murky. If we have intersectionality there were federal and provincial jurisdiction. So we need to work collaborate. audibly I can, I cannot dictate to them and they cannot dictate to me on this, we have to be able to be at the same table talking. One of the reasons that we need time right now we're given the fact that the system isn't ready that we're going to have to talk about exactly what readiness looks like. If it's not, it's clearly not there today. But what is readiness look like, as we cast our eyes to the future, and so that we can be able to give more definitive answers to that
question, given what you laid out yesterday about the suffering of people with mental disorders? How concerned are you that Ottawa now is vulnerable to legal challenge of the entire scheme? Because you're basically denying some people who use they have a right to this, their right to access it? I
think that, you know, there's always a possibility, and I would leave it to minister of Randy to talk about, you know, the legal aspects, but what I can say, is that, that, that I am certain that the courts would recognize that the dispute here is not whether or not there is a equivalency between physical suffering and mental suffering, we acknowledge that equivalency, the question is whether or not the system is ready, and time to make sure that the system can deal with that. And the reality is, it's not. So I think that the courts have recognized that that time is needed in order ready the system in order to deal with that imbalance and equity. Thank you so much.
I think additional $40 million. And just so just to be clear, we we not only worked with Unreal, we also work with a number of organizations on the ground, and this $40 million, will ensure that humanitarian aid will continue to throw to the most innocent civilians on the ground.
40 million have gone to transferring money that otherwise would have gone to Iraq to these other organizations.
We have instituted a pause, pending the results of an investigation and the pause was based on preventing any additional funding. That's I've been very clear and
precise, when would have been the next payment on Rawang? Would
what there is there is two types of support that that we've been providing to Andrew one is long term support, and one is money for guys. The money for Gaza has been dispersed to UNRWA, and they've used it for humanitarian to deliver much needed humanitarian aid and education and other other duties that UNRWA has on the ground and they've done good work over the years. But the long term support is, is is carried out over a number of years and and that, of course, will be impacted by this pulse.
What was the next payment due? March 28. He's not saying exactly Microsoft we.
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and how quickly can you get it passed? Do
you think Have you already reached out to the other parties to
try to mediate this to the parliamentary process?
Well, look, we know that's an issue that has been the subject of a lot of good work actually across party lines when very rare example all too rare example of good work across party lines. We have a committee report that fundamentally there's a semblance of consensus there so I'm very hopeful that we'll be able to have a smooth passage to Parliament Have you started talking to others? Thank you.
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