It's got getting revelations. So, on our last call, if you remember, we had gone over four different structures. And we did it twice. First, we went through the structures when we have active business income, we talked about the LLC plus personal trust the business trust, plus personal trust with no entity, the business just plus a personal trust with an entity with the assets owned by the personal trust, and then business transpose personal trust with the assets owned in the business trust. Last fall, we added to that, a foundation for each of those four structures. And by the end of the call, you guys had asked, Could I give you some examples, and let you guys tell me which of the eight structures you might use. So in that regard, I invited Joel McMinn to join us. Joel has a very interesting structure. So Joel, is here to join us to help me describe his structure. Joe, before you ever got started with the trust, how was your business setup?