I found something going through her files last year, that moved me so deeply she put together I was born in Providence. And when she was pregnant with me, she was organizing a conference to bring together leaders and women of all religions, race, socio economic backgrounds, in Providence to come together. And this was, I'm going to reveal my age now. But this was in 1961. I mean, this was a long, long time ago, you know, the beginning of this really civil rights movement. And I found what she wrote at the, you know, open to this, which was, as a woman, I should ask no rights and privileges for my child, I am unwilling to grant to the children of other mothers, that to talk with and to other women rather than about or at them is conducive to my understanding of their problems, feelings, and hopes into their understanding of mine. So this was the prefect, the preface to this conference she had helped organize, about this is the spirit we're moving into this conference. So and then she was doing volunteer work in Harlem, when we moved down to the New York area, and then was plucked from the by the Ford Foundation. But she, she was at the forefront of tenant rights of, you know, the all the anti redlining, she was one of the architects of the local initiative support Corporation Liske. And she created ccrp, which is this community redevelopment organization with the idea of you don't go top down, you do grassroots you work with the community, you work with the nonprofits, in the organizations, the institutions and the people living in the community, because they know what they need and what they want. And you bring together everyone in the community from, you know, job training, to child care, to, you know, education, to healthcare, to housing, because you can't do a bandaid on one thing. And so this again, gets back to, you know, when I found this preface to this conference, my mother organized, I'm like, wow, that's what I do with storytelling. That is, it's about not, and it's what nonprofit leaders need to be doing. Also, you can't talk at people. It's all it's that empathy piece. Again, it's like, Let's come together, let's collaborate, Let's respect each other, let's treat each other with dignity. So I grew up marching, like on my mother's side, and, and really angry with her because she, you know, when she was at the Ford Foundation, she traveled the country. And she was so devoted to her grantees. I felt she loved them more than she loved me. I mean, I grew up and came to realize she had enough love in her heart for all of us. And then she was appointed by Jimmy Carter, to the Federal Home Loan Bank board. So she was the first female appointed to a regulatory agency, where she enacted right anti redlining laws, and But anyway, and I was furious that she moved to DC when I was in high school, when, you know, I guess the flip side of that is that I was largely raised, like day to day by my father, which was great. And by a father figure who told me every day of my life, you can do anything you put your mind to, you can, you know, you know, regardless of gender, but anyway, so to come full circle, I think that it is when I think of philanthropy, it all starts with us and our values and us as humans. And I look at my mother and my father and the values that they had, have just had they treated every human with such dignity and respect and the belief that every human has the right to the same rights and the same opportunities as as all of us and they both worked so hard to drive that sense of, you know, equal opportunity. equality. So that's so my, my view of philanthropy is both very deeply personal from it all starts with each one of us as human and as individuals and how we treat and view others to very big about my mother and I mean, I, when I was like little, I would go with her and play in the gardens at the Ford Foundation and eat in the dining like that was like I loved, you know, to partly probably to just have that time with my mom. But also it was so fun to go play. I didn't realize where I was playing. But anyway, so that's my philanthropy story.