But I was an altar boy until middle school in the choir, but then high school kind of dropped doff and that's when you know the doubts about God, you know, which many people here have gone through, started, you know, filtering in that things just didn't make sense to me. The suffering just didn't make sense. I couldn't, I couldn't accept the explanations that I was given in church. So, you know, I faded away from it. College, you know, this got worse. It took some philosophy classes, again, looking for looking for those answers that a lot of us come here for. And philosophy classes, you know, raise more questions than they do answers. And you just spend a lot of time thinking, thinking thinking. So it's interesting, you know, that we ended up here. My first exposure to Buddhism was in a Buddhist philosophy class in college. I don't remember now, why I picked it, I don't know, doesn't matter. I don't remember a lot about the class. Other than that, the professor was really like this gorgeous Indian man with flowing hair and very expensive suits. We thought he just kind of floated around the room. And there was a cute girl in there that I liked a lot, too. So that was part of the reason I think I liked the class. But my, my big paper, you know, the final exam paper for that class was, was on biology and Buddhism. And I, I've wondered, many looked so many times my we moved around so much that, you know, I'm the paper got lost. And I would love to have be able to find that paper now. Because I don't have any recollection of what I wrote it about. But But I was, you know, I was looking, I was looking in both realms, essentially, for understanding. Academically, I was always a Math Science Kid. I'm a very linear thinker, A goes to B goes to C. And, and I hated poetry, oh, boy, I just could not do poetry. So yeah, I was looking for answers in science. And it made sense geometry, you know, just made so much sense. And then, you know, as I got to higher level math, then things got confusing again. That hit the limits of my innate intelligence. Same thing with with physics. Biology, you know, seemed to make more sense. Or at least I believed that it made sense. And part of what's been fantastic about this journey, is I've as I've circled back to realizing that they don't have a clue that this illusion of knowledge, you know, that I bought into for years that that science was going to answer all of this for me. You could explain it all with just the right mix of protons and electrons and neutrons. So yeah, so that's why I wrote this paper in biology and Buddhism that was trying to try to synthesize these two things to get understanding. But of course, I didn't get it, that understanding. And as we know, there's many theoretical physicists who are still searching and searching and searching. And that's what we're here doing, just in a very different way than I used to do.