10Jun21 Community Call

8:45PM Jun 17, 2021

Speakers:

Louisa Barnum

Tim Kennedy

Lorraine Smith

Mary

Keren Flavell

Keywords:

feeling

thinking

life

taxonomy

thought

feel

witness

freedom

desire

penetrated

module

spheres

steiner

talking

tim

exercises

move

habit

realm

framework

Hold on.

Good job, Lorraine. Okay, so let me just say that again, we're going to talk about taxonomy. It's a taxonomy that we really go into a module three, in a lot in much more detail, and much more. Module Three is much more about experience. So we have a lot of exercises that will ask you to do. So this is kind of building another layer into this whole observation, through a phenomenological lens of what's really going on internally. We've already as you might recall, been over, you know, the shadow and the light, the shadow and the higher self. And you might recall that we think we talked about the three levels of consciousness. So the subconscious, the day awake, conscious, and the Supra conscious. And another way of saying super conscious is higher self. And another way of talking about subconscious is the shadow. And the day awake is that part of you, that is able to go into both. So you can, you can strengthen your connection with your higher self. And the stronger that connection is, the deeper you are able to go into the subconscious and with more success. So this is what it's all about is what module two, and three are all about. So I want to add another layer to this whole practice for you. And the soul taxonomy, I'm going to call it thinking, feeling and willing. So this is, this is like an anatomical lesson into this completely invisible realm, which is the realm of your inner life or your soul. So let me just sort of begin by, by giving you a picture of why this is important. And and just to give you a kind of an analogy, so you know, how much care you take over your house, keeping it clean, keeping it tidy, keeping it organized? Well, what if you were to take the same amount of care your your house cleaning on a regular basis, you were cleaning that toilet, you were, you know, managing the mess in the dirt with the same care and like, priority? What if you're doing that with your inner life, as well? And do we do that? Well, on the whole, unless we're rather exceptional, we don't tend to, we don't tend to, in our thinking life, really take care of what we choose what we're thinking about, we just let our thoughts run where they will. And in our feeling life, we are really at the mercy of what we feel of, you know what is coming up, we don't have a whole lot of control over that. And those feelings can be dark, you know, and not and not clean. It's been that way. And we have even less say, in our will, our will is very, very the way that Steiner used to put it as we are asleep in our will.

So

you know, I would say that. I would argue though I don't know a whole lot about this, but it wouldn't surprise me if every single, esoteric mystery stream that is on the planet today. Buddhism, Christianity, esoteric Christianity, not religious Christianity. Muslim Sufi ism, they all have this injunction, which is Know thyself. And if you read into the New Testament, while even if you read in the Old Testament, the teaching of Jesus was all about the inner life. He wasn't saying you know, be a better physical person, you know, build a better house, you know, make those pads that you walk on. safer. Yeah, that those are. Those are not the teachings they were all about the inner life. And if you think about when you walk when you move through your day, what are you focused on primarily, your focus your attention is out there in the world, right? And there's actually comparatively little attention on the internal. So we have this really interesting dichotomy as modern human beings. And it but it gets even worse than that we have a situation where the inner life has actually been reduced out of life. You know, if you're, if you're a medical practitioner, Western medicine of Western medicine, you don't have an inner life, your inner life is entirely dictated by your biology, or your neurology. You are your brain or your brain is the source of consciousness. And this is a problem. Because we not no longer have an inner life. And yet, everything that you see when you look out of your physical body has been created by consciousness. I'm not talking about the trees and nature. I'm talking about roads, I'm talking about poisons, the chemicals, I'm talking about the house, you know, the computer, what you spend your time thinking about, you know, job work, travel cars, life, it is all the product of a thought. Right? So we, a lot of the work that Jeff and I are doing, is re enlivening and Rhian reawakening us all, including ourselves to, you know, flipping the story from everything is outward to everything is inward, and getting our internal house in order. Just to put it simply. So this, this taxonomy, of thinking, feeling willing, as the three main spheres of the soul is, is it's not a framework, these three spheres are really archetypes. And as you probably can recall, I think we've talked about this before, and archetype is really a movement. It's not a structure, it's not a framework, it's not a concept, it's not a construct. an archetype is an experience to be had in movement. So let's talk about thinking, feeling and willing so that you can see what I mean. And I'm throwing this at you, because I'm really curious to see how this lens with you and where your questions lie. Because this is a part of us, you know, forging module three. So we're going to start with thinking, because thinking is the easiest to

it's a is the easiest entry point is the place where we have the most say, the most control. But even then, much of what we think, is random, like a stream of consciousness, and it's not really thinking. It's actually sorting, or vetting. And what I mean by that thing is that when you say, oh, that it's a conclusion that you're drawing, and what happens when you draw a conclusion, while you stop thinking about it. So you do remember in the habit loop, you have an experience that is triggering for you, and where do you go, you go straight to conclusion, you draw, you draw a conclusion about it. And then you go into how you feel about that conclusion that you just drew about what happened. And then you go into beliefs about what you feel about the conclusion that you drew about what happened, right? And it becomes a self reinforcing situation. And it and it rose out of the that. You stopped thinking right after that. Does that make sense? So this sporting, we go through life, and we actually do very little thinking. I'm going to not say much more about that. If you're really curious about it. There's a book actually I have it right on my desk. It's called from Normal to healthy by Georg coolant, and he goes in depth into this is really a study of consciousness, the diseases of consciousness and thinking he talks a lot about that. So, so the work of the habit loop. And the work of the other exercises like, trigger journaling that I've given you, is really about using your thinking to intervene in these habits and compulsions. And it's also underneath that. The beginning part of enlivening your thinking, beginning to bring some exercise into the muscle of your thinking life. That's what this is. That's what those exercises really are. Okay? So we have to, we have to start to have more agency in our thinking life, more awareness of what kinds of thoughts and betting, we are entertaining, that we are believing that we are allowing to think in us. So that's, this is thinking, and then what happens from there? Well, we feel things that now we're going to move into feeling the thinking, it brings about certain feelings. So we draw a conclusion about ourselves, I'm not good enough. And how do we feel about that hopelessness and despair. This is just one example of how our thinking life can induce certain feelings in us are feeling life is interesting, because you could say that the feelings they can either be emotions, or what we like to call self feeling, kinds of feelings. And you can, you can recognize an emotion or a self feeling kind of feeling by whether they can bring about it, whether they're cognitive or non cognitive. So self feeling emotions are non cognitive, because they don't, they don't give you any insight into anything. They just are. They're kind of wordless. So when you feel despair and hopelessness, there's a word lessness about that experience, there's no, there's nowhere to go. They're dating and they give you no insight. They give you No, they don't see into anything they block you. Right. So we, we, we tend, you know, we have these two words, we have emotions, and we have feelings. And right now I'd like to differentiate between these two words, because it's a little bit of a shared language that we can start to build around the feeling life. So emotions are non cognitive. But feelings can be cognitive. And this is the goal in our feeling life. We can use our feeling life to develop our intuition.

Animals are constantly feeling out things they are in a constant place of cognitive feeling. This is a wonderful book called The elephant whisperer, about a man of South Africa, who rescued a herd of wild elephants. And he would say things like, it's amazing. We wanted to go out there and round up some count the Impaler on the reserve, the nature reserve that he owned, and would go out there to count the Impaler and we couldn't find a single one. Whereas the day before they were everywhere. So the animals knew that they were being looked for. So they would disappear. This is the feeling you know, you can imagine that especially for for a prey animal, the feeling life and sensing into the mood, the psychic mood of the world is a part of how they stay alive. Right. So the feeling life is a very interesting field that we have to get to know. Obviously we get to know that in ourselves first. So in the feeling life, the goal is that we learn to refine our feelings we learn to not go into the places of self feeling. Now self feeling is a really difficult concept to describe. I have found it enormously helpful in my life. But I have yet to do a really great job of describing it even coolant has a hard job of articulating it which makes me feel a little better. Self feeling is what you do. When you are addicted to feeling a certain way. So for instance, if you're feeling upset about something, you will, you will tell yourself stories and you will sort of wallow in the feeling of being upset. It's very hard to get out of it. And it's very easy for you to go there. Does this does this resonate with you as a as a kind of a? Yep, yeah, that is what I call self feeling noncognitive wordless, doesn't get you anywhere, it just actually does more harm than good to wallow in those in those kinds of feelings, right. So the idea there is that we learn how to pull ourselves out of out of that kind of compulsive place of wallowing in our feelings, and instead to turn our feelings into organs of perception. That's the goal. That's where we're going. Okay, so I'm just going to pause there on the feelings and move into will now the will, is the hardest of all to access. So thinking is the easiest, feelings are not so easy. Just try to pull yourself out of rage. When you're raging. It's impossible. So we're not we're not really we're at the mercy of our feeling life. But the will we are most asleep, and it's the hardest to access. So what we have to do is access the development of our will, indirectly. So we begin in our thinking, and we work in our feeling, and that all percolates down into our will. So this is why addiction is so so so difficult to overcome. You can't just not you can't just not be addicted, you can't just apply your will to not be addicted, that's just not going to happen. As any person who's ever dealt with, with a serious addiction will tell you what we have to do. And again, this is the habit loop. This is why the habit loop is the exercise, we have to begin enough thinking by analyzing what is actually happening by developing the organ of perception of the witness, witnessing without blame without assessment without betting. Just Just looking at what is the phenomenon that's happening in my life have a closed loop. And the more objectivity we can have, the more we're able to own our feelings about it.

Now, it's interesting, because the owning of our feelings requires that we're honest about our feelings. So that's just to tie back to what you were saying, Karen, when you checked in? Do you? Are you? How did you put it? Put it in an interesting way? Do you allow the feelings to be there? Or do you really work for a more positive framework? Now, I'm not quite sure exactly what you meant to say. But what I heard was, do you are you honest about the strength and the nature of your feelings of what you're feeling? Or do you try and change them into a more positive framework? Yeah, so some, it can be it can be dangerous to try and say, I'm going to not feel that I'm going to have a more positive framework, only when we're not honest about what we're actually feeling. And then we just tend to go into suppression. We don't want to feel that because it's ugly, and it's painful. But it can be, we can actually take our power back, we can take our agency back by admitting to ourselves what we actually feel and how intensely we actually feel about it. Right. And that's when so the ownership of our feelings is a part of how we can move through them and come out the other side. So there's so there's an interesting little sort of dichotomy in that. So when we work to have more more agency and our feeling life, not so that we can suppress it, but so that we can train form it, that's when that really trickles down into our will. And the will is interesting because it really requires what you could call warmth, warmth in your feeling life, in order to move in order for your will to move. So enthusiasm is, is one that flames and fires the will. But what the hell do you do when you run out of enthusiasm? You know, what do you run out of the will? Right? So do you see how it takes the thinking which influences the will sorry, the feeling, which then which then comes into the will and can influence that the goal in the willing, of course, is to be free, free of compulsion, free of desire. The will become inspired by it's the right thing to do, rather than desire. And you can and let me just tie that back to addiction. So you can imagine, that is utterly impossible to change an addictive behavior, when the will is fired by desire, desire for the, for the addictive behavior or substance, incredibly difficult to fight. So we don't fight it. What we do is we, we work to understand the the, the thinking, the thought forms, that drive the feeling life that drives the addictive behavior and the will. Do you see how that how how that is the order of things. And this is how we work to transform our soul life. And those are the three spheres that we use as a concept to help to give put some structure in the form of a taxonomy so that you can see why the habit loop why trigger journaling, why these exercises, and how they influence these three spheres. Yeah. One more thing that I want to say about this, and this is about the nature of practice. So when I was still playing the violin, and these days, when I'm still trying to learn how to sing,

there's a really interesting thing that happens in practice and in Lorraine, and I'm sure you'll relate to this with your running, you have to learn to penetrate your physical viscera, your body, with your mind, when you when you're learning technique, you know, the violin, that technique is so fine, you're using all these fine, you know, tiny muscles, and you're running a marathon with your tiny muscles. So you have to actually be able to separate out the muscle groups and the individual muscles so that they're they're, they're, they're moving properly with the fascia in between. Because if they get locked in together, you're prone to injury. So, so what you do is you learn to separate out all the modules and the modes in the in the tiny, individual pieces, and you get them working independently of each other before you bring it back together. And this is exactly what we have to do with the soul. We have to understand the different pieces, the thinking as defined and separate from the willing sorry, from the feeling as separate from the willing, because it's really hard to do this because they are so interdependent. Because you can't think without applying your will for instance, you can't observe without using your will to choose to observe right so it's all very interdependent. However, we have to understand them and, and and work with them just like we do when we go to the gym for the physical body. Alright, so that is what I wanted to say I'm going to I'm going to pause there and see what's coming up in you. What questions what, where's it abstract for you? Does it make sense? Just what's coming up How is this landing?

Um, how I would mind a little go at that. So I like this framework and I'm thinking, Okay, if I'm coming in at just the the willing point, you would recognize, well, that could be totally, you know, some watered by the feeling and thinking, you know, so I get if it's coming from the thinking it gets to the will.

Yeah, I mean, it's the first time that you've used that reference of what that will is. So I do have a desire to learn more about that, because we've spent a lot of time on thinking and feeling. And this is the first time that we'll be doing well. Uh huh. So I'd appreciate understanding that a little bit more. But just even thinking that way. Like, as you're saying, you know, it does make sense to go that pathway, because if you just came in with feeling, then you know, the emotion Yeah, I can see that flow of things. dependence. So,

yeah, just a thought on Yeah. Okay. That's a good, that's a good point you're making first time we're really talking about the will? Yeah.

Yeah. And how that that is that how that's the goal? Like what, you know, how do we frame that in terms? Like, is that Nirvana? Is that the spot that we can then really have? Really, like? You said, it's freedom. So yeah, just unpacking more about the world would be great.

Okay, we'll do. Let's get some more questions. First, Lorraine, you're putting your hand up?

Yeah, it's less a question and more just a reflection or some feedback on some of what you said. And it will be a little bit of a few good ideas. On the practice piece, something you said about enthusiasm really resonated deeply. And for sure, I feel that in running, and I'll give a concrete example of where I can feel a need to understand this and integrate it more. I've been pushing the last year I've been more moving into ultramarathon distances. So over the 42.2 kilometers or 26 miles, and the other weekend, I ran to visit some friends to in their their indigenous actually, before the whole new stuff had begun. And I ran there and I ran back to work on their firm. And it's about a 40 mile run. And actually the way back, I ran a more scenic route just to see a different shoreline. And if two years ago, you had said, I'd be doing those distances, I think like how, like I don't have the physical capacity. But I'm realizing I do and to connect the desire to do it with the, the feelings and emotions and all the rest that comes with it. But I do feel like still, as I'm learning, what does it mean to go into those distances? There is, like an enthusiasm, that word was just so useful that the like, will to go forward. Because at any given moment, it seems a lot easier to stop. But I'm more than capable of going forward. And and I was fine. It's not like I was injuring or self harming. How to draw on all those things through practice to be able to go beyond Mm hmm. And then something else is kind of a question I'm holding and practicing all the time, I've got some kind of crazy distance ideas brewing. Because I have a will to go to these places and see them and understand them in a way that otherwise I wouldn't be able to. So then the other thing that was sparking for me as you were talking about it. So there's trigger journaling, there's the habit loop, there's these, like, let's say techniques of seeing and witnessing ourselves and finding really useful, and a penny just dropped as you were describing them again, and then newly talking about will that even though I would like these things to be separate, right, like, oh, here's the thing that triggered me, I'm going to go work on that over in the corner. And here's something else that I'm going to go work on that. I'm realizing they're all very interactive, and one kind of begets the other and not that I have to take on everything all at once. But I can see how some habits fuel others and certain little incident incidents are part of bigger incidents. They don't necessarily nest. So just giving myself the permission to be aware of that complexity in order There's a bunch in play all at once. So that Yeah, that was very sort of freeing. And I guess the last quick thing I would say is this notion of phenomenology that you gave us in the very first module has become one of the most powerful tools for me, as I'm navigating this says in the last few weeks for just like, just come back to the phenomenology witnesses as objectively as I can, and just do that. And I've found that very, very helpful. Surprising, actually.

Yeah, awesome. smattering. Yeah, cuz this, the conclusions that we draw are a problem. And that's why we have to find a way to give ourselves permission to not do that. Yeah. Great. Awesome. Any other any other thoughts and impressions and questions? confusion?

I was a few people recently have said that related to climate change. What will move us comes out of feeling rather than information. I'm thinking about Laura lane and one resilient earth that she shared a video as part of a fundraising group. And Shay was very calm in the thought this is what's happening, but not in a fearful sort of way. And what she's doing is bringing on that feeling, bringing imagination and art together with science that could be powerful. And more engaging of people in terms of action that's related to change. But it was sort of hard to articulate all that. But

yeah,

I think we get there. Yeah, I'm thinking about it more on a personal and organizational and how you convey them. Yeah, and why what she was doing, it really is valuable. But how do you convey that to a funder?

That's the, you know, their feelings about it? Yeah. That's good point. Very good point.

Yeah.

It's your Tim, any anything coming up for you? It all makes sense. I'm just processing. Okay. Definitely all makes sense. Okay. It's not too abstract. I don't think so. Okay, good. Awesome. Tim, I can't hear you. You're You're muted.

put together that part of my Well, I guess. It's a familiar framework for me. And so for me, it's just a question of actually witnessing how, how I orient when it's being presented in a different way, you know, from a different person from, from out of their own inner life. And so that was really beautiful for me to really feel you. Listen into how this all lives inside you, and then call it forward. And you know, that you were attentive enough to your thinking, and the feelings you had about each of these elements. And then with, you know, a lot of care and attentiveness to how you shared them verbally. Witness kind of that, that those three elements come to life in your presentation as well. So thank you.

Thank you. That's lovely. Yeah, I know that you're familiar with these, this is this is comes out of steiners work these three things I've never thought particularly drawn to understand these, this sort of as a taxonomy of the soul until recently when I I actually read some, a series of lectures and exercises from Steiner called the first class. It's deeply esoteric stuff. But it completely changed my life. I'm like, okay, we have to talk about this. So anyway, that was that was a big part of Module Three, super practical, super useful. It's never been presented to me in such a way before. Until recently. So, and we don't like to talk or teach about anything that we haven't really penetrated ourselves and really found useful for ourselves. That is, we're not here to bring abstract concepts because we think they're cool. You know? Right. Okay, so can we just this just go back to Karen's request? You said is, is this freedom that I mentioned, in the wills, specifically, the Nirvana is that we're going? Well, I would say that it's freedom and all three spheres. So what is freedom in the thinking life look like? Or feel like the thinking, so the freedom and the thinking realm? You know, there's a lot to say about that. And, Jeff, this is really the realm that he has penetrated by reading really difficult books, like the philosophy of freedom by Steiner, Marion, Tim, probably have read that book. I tried to read it when I was 21. And I could not make heads or tails of it, it was absolutely impossible. Because the book, it's designed to make you think, in a particular way, as you read it, it's making you exercise faculties that, you know, it's like working a muscle group that you didn't even know you had. So freedom in the thinking life is basically that you're free of compulsive thought forms, that are constantly playing out in your subconscious realm. They're constantly arising up, because they have a life of their own, in your thoughts. And they're subtle, and they're very hard to see or notice, but they're there and the habit loop, sorry to keep coming back to that is a method for how you start to awaken to these thought forms. And these thought forms are often inherited, by the way, from your family. And they are they exist in the subconscious, which means you cannot see them. You do not notice that they're there. But they're constantly influencing what you believe the conclusions that you draw, and how you feel. So freedom in the thinking life means that that's no longer happening. You are, You have penetrated into the subconscious realm, and you have transformed out of love. What's their freedom in the feeling life? Is that your feelings and now organs of perception? They are cognitive. You're no longer at the mercy of your feeling life and dramas, the dramas of the feeling life. You right, so that's, that's what freedom and the feeling life is like, and then freedom in the will. So those are two states of Nirvana. Let's just put it that way. What's the goal? What does freedom look like and thinking life and feeling life? And then and then similarly, what you picked up on there, Karen is what the goal of freedom? What does freedom look like? A No will?

You know that the what that looks like in my life, for instance, is I learned how to look at the massive pile of dishes in the kitchen and not be fazed at all, like no problem. Get to work and clean it up. I don't I don't feel enthusiastic about it. But I don't feel overwhelmed or upset by it either. Whereas Jeff, he looks at the mess and the kitchen is completely overwhelmed. me like Help,

help. I need help.

Yeah, so is that in the will realm because I thought you were in the will one but it sounded like the feelings like you weren't getting the feelings of overwhelm or the thinking, you know, so

to speak. Math. So you can apply your Will you can move your body, you can, you can watch your thinking, you can observe your feeling out of a space of freedom from compulsion, instead of being sucked into the feelings, instead of being at the mercy of those thought forms, instead of not being able to move your butt, because you just can't be bothered, or you just desire you desire something that, you know, is not good for you, but you can't help it. Does that make is that answer the question?

Well, it feels like thinking and feeling a very understandable realms, all it will, is okay, I hear what you're saying. It's the ability to move your body without being and then you realize, then you sort of defer to feeling and thinking? Well, so I'm still wanting some sort of extra texture around what the will? Or just the capacity, what is the definition of, of the will? And yeah, I mean, I understand it's the third part, I was thinking feeling the will, was feels like, the will.

When you think What is your definition of the will? Tell me what you are thinking when you think of the word? My will?

Those two words? Yeah, I think it is its determination. It's so much spirit, it's the spirits determining life force for, you know, action that benefits the individual or the world, you know, the action with a with consequences.

I would define the will so so I'm not, you're not wrong. And that's probably I'm not entirely sure exactly what you mean. But what if I was to say to you, the will is doing. So whether you're doing the dishes, you're you're doing? What you do, what your behaviors are? Now, what you do, can also be in your, you know, it's like, what do you do with what you have? Could also, it also could be what you do in your feeling life, it can also be what you do in your thinking life, which is why these things are so interconnected. But to keep it simple, I think that's, we can we can sort of constrain our definition of the will, by by looking at it in terms of doing action. So thinking feeling doing,

yeah. Right. That makes more sense to me.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because otherwise? Otherwise, yes. It would be confusing. If you're not super clear on on, what are the parameters? You know, when is it will and when is it not? Yeah. Tim, you I know, you have something to say?

Yeah, but we don't have a lot of time. I think one thing, one quick way to think of it is a taxonomy of the will, and elevate from kind of, you know, instincts at the lowest level two urges, to desires, to motives, to intent. And so all of those things are that they're there in the activity, the doing, but they're also the sole force that precedes the doing. So will results in doing right, and then the, it's it because it's such an unconscious part of ourselves most of the time. We don't often come to a real understanding of it, until we really start to witness it really well.

Yeah. I'd love to see those layers that you mentioned him. The motivation that dah dah dah, dah, dah, dah.

Can you throw that in the community platform, Tim?

Okay, I'll try

not to put a job on you. Sorry, just

to repeat, you know, if you look at the lowest your instincts there As a response, there's an action without any thinking any feeling at all. You just acted, right? There's nothing awake about reacting an instinct and responding for an urge you, you get to feel the urge even rise up and use. You're aware of the urge even a little bit before you act on it.

But it's what was it? So it was instinct. And

yeah, you have an urge. And then when you have a desire, you can actually hold that desire for a bit and feel it built. Right? And you can be pay with pay attention to the desire. And sometimes you can decide or not decide about a desire.

Yeah, What's the next one? After desire? motive, motive? And the next one intention? Right? Yeah. Great. Yeah.

There we go. Yep. Got him. Yeah, that's right. Okay. No, I like that, that that, that that is really good. It's, it's not just the doing, it's all the, the like those subconscious layers that lead to action. But they also have the potential that they're kind of feeling that kind of thinking.

Yeah. And that's, I think where we're going is when you bring your thinking into your will that activates it on a different level, will into your thinking, that also creates a different it creates, it moves you from clotting and adding into thinking,

yeah, as an activity instead of as a instinct, or urge. Yeah. Yeah. These are there's there's a lot to say about the will. There's also there's other kinds of taxonomies of the will, that was very helpful. Thank you, Tim. There's that how you apply your will. So hard will versus soft will. So there's a lot of there's a lot to this topic. And it's not something that is typically talked about, except for in the context of willpower, that kind of thing. But as you can see, we'll our is a complex, you can't just apply your will, you know, and so if you have a lot of shoulds, I should be doing this, and I shouldn't be doing that just have some self compassion. Yeah, we are the we are just slightly on the top of the hour. Is it? Okay, if we do a checkout? It's really nice to do that. Do we have time? Everybody has time? Okay. Awesome. This is to a checkout, see how you're feeling and what you're, maybe we could do? Just takeaways, couple of quick takeaways that you're taking from this call?

The third, the third leg of the stool? Well, I feel like that is really, you know, the we're building on from the thinking, the feeling. And now the will of the doing, it feels really, that's, that's great. It's great development. I'm pleased. I've been fully present and feel content at the end of this.

Cool. Thank you, Karen. I feel like I understand where some of my blocks are coming from in my work. And so now I have a different tool to

approach them with. Awesome,

though. That's, and that's encouraging.

Thank you, Betsy.

I think I'm thinking more about the role of witness, which I think is sort of beyond awareness.

And

I have that purple first class book, and I think I'll open it.

Yeah. It's intense. Be careful. Yeah. Awesome. Tell me how it goes. Okay. Awesome. All right. Yeah, I'm

curious about that purple first class. And also taking away I feel like in a way, this was a review of things I've encountered in other inner work before but either I'm more ready now or, and this was an articulation that helped me relate it to myself versus a kind of theoretical construct and I haven't Visual in my mind about the will so one of the things I'm going to take away is that visual and maybe I just hold it in my mind, but I'm gonna see if I can actually realize it in some shareable way because I yeah, I feel like things just sort of fit into place in a very, like the musical chord at the end. You know, we're, there's there's a resonance, resonance or cancer. I forget the word. I'm looking for it but that resolution

resolution the harmonic tonic. Yeah. So yeah, thank you. Awesome. Tim, I think you're last but not least.

Yeah. Feeling activated and ready to go do some desirable tasks?

Awesome. Yeah, you are the master of your will, Tim. Cool.

All right,

people. Thank you so much for coming. Did I miss anyone? No, everybody went right. Yes. Thank you so much for coming. And there will be lots more of this. We're going to dive deep. Soon as we can get Jeff well and back on. Because development onwards. Right, Thanksgiving, or best? Yeah. Well, I will have a great rest of your week and we'll see you next week. Hopefully.

Okay. Thank you. Good bye.