advanced bird or start looking at wing bars, you know, markings on the wings, or you can look at the color of the legs. One of the key things a lot of times is the shape of the bill. Because finches have a different bill as compared to a wren because it's all based on what they eat. Is the shape a different matter a lot of times I try to base because everybody knows what a Robin and about the size of a rock Haven't so people are trying to figure it out, is it larger or smaller than a Robin? And we can narrow it down from there. And then I'll ask him a word to see it. And a lot of its environment where you'll find a bird. Certainly, like I say, the rental hangout and scrubby areas and that type of thing, whereas Robins will be out in your lawn. But yeah, shape, size, color color is going to be the key, especially in spring falls a little tougher because they they're no longer in their breeding plumage. And there are a lot duller, shall I say, color wise that vide was but yeah,